nice
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 02:32
http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-976420.php
with men like these the war is in the bag
Zouloukistan
16-07-2005, 02:37
with men like these the war is in the bag
If only there were more than one in the american army...
Leonstein
16-07-2005, 02:38
Oh, is that like that Private who was captured after her convoy was ambushed?
Who fought valiantly, killed many enemies, was wounded but restisted to the last and was captured?
Then was mistreated horribly by the evil Iraqi savages before being freed by our boys in a heroic battle against the savages, who were all killed?
Zouloukistan
16-07-2005, 02:40
Oh, is that like that Private who was captured after her convoy was ambushed?
Who fought valiantly, killed many enemies, was wounded but restisted to the last and was captured?
Then was mistreated horribly by the evil Iraqi savages before being freed by our boys in a heroic battle against the savages, who were all killed?
Sweet, dude...
I love to say that.
Sumamba Buwhan
16-07-2005, 02:44
Is it just me or does that story not make sense. It says he was shot by the sniper and then he track down the now wounded sniper. maybe some important details are missing.
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 02:46
Is it just me or does that story not make sense. It says he was shot by the sniper and then he track down the now wounded sniper. maybe some important details are missing.
kevlar baby, kevlar
Sumamba Buwhan
16-07-2005, 02:48
kevlar baby, kevlar
But how did the sniper get wounded? They completely left that part of the story out. See where I'm comign from now?
Oh, is that like that Private who was captured after her convoy was ambushed?
Who fought valiantly, killed many enemies, was wounded but restisted to the last and was captured?
Then was mistreated horribly by the evil Iraqi savages before being freed by our boys in a heroic battle against the savages, who were all killed?
Yeah, that story is bull crap. The girl hid in the truck, while the men with her were killed or captured trying to protect her. She didn’t fire a single bullet in resistance. War hero, yeah right.
Evilness and Chaos
16-07-2005, 02:57
Yeah, that story is bull crap. The girl hid in the truck, while the men with her were killed or captured trying to protect her. She didn’t fire a single bullet in resistance. War hero, yeah right.
Wanna know what pisses me off?
There were TWO women captured then released.
The second one didn't get on the news...
She was Black.
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 03:19
But how did the sniper get wounded? They completely left that part of the story out. See where I'm comign from now?
the medic wasn't alone, he was just the target
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 03:21
The second one didn't get on the news...
She was Black.
Dominican to be exact
in all fairness there were a few difference; she was taken with a larger group of prisoners, not on her own and was rescued later. and she was a sargent or a corperal, not a private
Sumamba Buwhan
16-07-2005, 03:24
the medic wasn't alone, he was just the target
right so they should have the details in teh story where they say "The batallion returned fire and wounded the sniper."
It almost seems like you are refusign to acknowledge my simple point.
Evilness and Chaos
16-07-2005, 03:28
Dominican to be exact
in all fairness there were a few difference; she was taken with a larger group of prisoners, not on her own and was rescued later. and she was a sargent or a corperal, not a private
Still, it bugs my goat.
Re the topic:
That soldier getting up that quick after a taking a shot to the chest, then taking a scan of the area before taking cover... well he's either incredibly brave or had his senses well scrambled by the fall he took.
Oh and why didn't the ambusher take a second pot shot when the soldier stood back up instead of saying 'God is Great!' a few more times?
And why was he trying to snipe with a rifle that couldn't even incapacitate a man in kevlar, let alone kill him. Someone really hit this guy with the idiot stick.
No wonder he got captured!
Non Aligned States
16-07-2005, 03:29
An army is not a single unit, nor a group of single units, but a unified and coordinated mass of single units. Alone, this man would most likely have died in short order. With his company to support him he did not. And yet his company was rendered faceless, while he got some spotlight.
Evilness and Chaos
16-07-2005, 03:34
right so they should have the details in teh story where they say "The batallion returned fire and wounded the sniper."
It almost seems like you are refusign to acknowledge my simple point.
I think it's an obvious inference that fire was returned, since they do take the trouble to mention that the sniper was wounded y'know.
If they were trying to make more of this situation they'd be saying 'the downed man then engaged and captured the sniper', which is technically correct but does obfuscate by not mentioning he was with a squad when he did so.
I wouldn't say this act was Heroic though (Try reading about the UK solider who was awarded the Victoria Cross(!) in Iraq a few months ago, that's a Hero), this guy just got lucky because he was shot at by an idiot (See my post above), and then having survived, he did his job.
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 03:36
And why was he trying to snipe with a rifle that couldn't even incapacitate a man in kevlar, let alone kill him. Someone really hit this guy with the idiot stick.
these guys arn't the brightest and best of the arab world, thats why they kill so many more innocent Iraqi civilians than American soldiers
on more than one occasion they're fired anti-aircraft missiles with ceilings in the thousands of feet at US transport aircraft that were half of a mile up
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 03:38
right so they should have the details in teh story where they say "The batallion returned fire and wounded the sniper."
It almost seems like you are refusign to acknowledge my simple point.
this is just a brief overview of an amry report
you can read the whole thing http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/at_sniper071505.pdf if you want to
An army is not a single unit, nor a group of single units, but a unified and coordinated mass of single units. Alone, this man would most likely have died in short order. With his company to support him he did not. And yet his company was rendered faceless, while he got some spotlight.
i agree very muchso.
Dobbsworld
16-07-2005, 04:17
But how did the sniper get wounded? They completely left that part of the story out. See where I'm comign from now?
Silly rabbit! Journalism is a commie plot. Did you not get the memo?
Dobbsworld
16-07-2005, 04:20
this is just a brief overview of an amry report
you can read the whole thing http://www.armytimes.com/content/editorial/pdf/at_sniper071505.pdf if you want to
No, according to the link you provided, this is an editorial. Where's the actual news story at?