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Help with stopping watching pornography

Tluiko
16-07-2005, 01:43
censored;)
Terecia
16-07-2005, 01:49
What made you decide that you wanted to stop? What is it interfering with in your life? Do you have enough motivation?
Neo Kervoskia
16-07-2005, 01:50
Why would you ever want to stop? :eek:
Reformentia
16-07-2005, 01:51
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"

Yes. The advice being if you really don't want to watch it, you just don't... and anyone saying "why not?" when presented with it wouldn't seem to be in that category.
Oxwana
16-07-2005, 01:51
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"Why on earth would you stop?
Seriously, if it's interfering with your life, it's an addiction, and you should get help, but otherwise.... Don't let people try to convince you that you're a bad person for liking porn. I totally agree; why not?
Lunatic Goofballs
16-07-2005, 01:55
As these other fine people have said; Unless it is interfering in your life and you need professional help to quit, why worry?

Or the other solution, of course, is to make porn. Then, you'll want to do other things when you're not "working". :D
Ashmoria
16-07-2005, 01:57
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
avoid temptation

if its not in the house, you wont see it. if you are never in that "why not" position, you will never say "why not?"

i suggest that you talk to a councillor about this. some people do get addicted to porn; some are inherently guilty prudes who think that looking at a little is a huge deal. it would be good for you to know which you are. you need an objective outside source to tell you if you really have a problem or not. (dont go to your minister)
Neo Kervoskia
16-07-2005, 01:57
As these other fine people have said; Unless it is interfering in your life and you need professional help to quit, why worry?

Or the other solution, of course, is to make porn. Then, you'll want to do other things when you're not "working". :D
I wonder what Ron Jeremy would say to that.
Gymoor II The Return
16-07-2005, 01:59
Condition yourself to picture Bea Arthur/Janet Reno/your Mom/Katherine Harris in place of the porn girl in question.*

*side effects may include nausea, impotence, loose bowels, oedipal complex, forced deportation and/or the loss of minority votes.
Neo Kervoskia
16-07-2005, 02:02
Condition yourself to picture Bea Arthur/Janet Reno/your Mom/Katherine Harris in place of the porn girl in question.*

*side effects may include nausea, impotence, loose bowels, oedipal complex, forced deportation and/or the loss of minority votes.
Ewww, you'll ruin it for everyone now!
Or you could picture this:
http://www.aeroplastics.net/FT/pages/Divine3.jpg
OceanDrive2
16-07-2005, 02:03
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever.I agree with you.
Lokiaa
16-07-2005, 02:05
Watch enough of it and it will get as boring as an economic summit full of 90 year old men on Ritalin. I can guarantee it.

An easy solution is to have a lot of structure and no spare time. Or find someone real. :fluffle:
Neo Kervoskia
16-07-2005, 02:05
I agree with you.
Not really, remember when someone posted a thread asking for help to stop masturbating?
Bodies Without Organs
16-07-2005, 02:06
Help with stopping watching pornography

Is gauging your own eyes out with the pin from a broach not a fairly traditional response in circumstances not a million miles away from these?
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 02:22
confession? (though I suppose you'd have to be Catholic) its good for the soul and helps to establish a new chapter in your life
Alexandria Quatriem
16-07-2005, 02:31
you must certainly have a definite reason for wanting to stop. mine was my faith, i could say to myself "this is wrong, and it breaks the heart of my God who has done so much for me", and after a few weeks the habit was broken. so ask yourself, why do you want to stop? it helps alot to be a Christian, just because most of the solid reasons to stop cease to exist if you're not.
Schrandtopia
16-07-2005, 02:39
mine was my faith, i could say to myself "this is wrong, and it breaks the heart of my God who has done so much for me",

same here
Evilness and Chaos
16-07-2005, 02:48
"this is wrong, and it breaks the heart of my God who has done so much for me".

And that is why Tantra is the best religion!
The WYN starcluster
16-07-2005, 02:57
Age. That is, grow older. It helps & as such, I do not hate the young for their obsessions.
Lapse
16-07-2005, 02:58
solution: if it is on computer, delete it..
if it is mags... burn them
if it is videos, tape oprah over the top...
Evilness and Chaos
16-07-2005, 03:01
solution: if it is on computer, delete it..
if it is mags... burn them
if it is videos, tape oprah over the top...

Yeah because burning or destroying stuff you don't agree with is always fun.
The WYN starcluster
16-07-2005, 03:01
Watch enough of it and it will get as boring as an economic summit full of 90 year old men on Ritalin. I can guarantee it.

An easy solution is to have a lot of structure and no spare time. Or find someone real. :fluffle:
A better way of putting it! ROTFL!
Lapse
16-07-2005, 03:07
Yeah because burning or destroying stuff you don't agree with is always fun.
take out the 'you don't agree with' and I'll agree ;)
Lokiaa
16-07-2005, 03:17
Not really, remember when someone posted a thread asking for help to stop masturbating?
Actually, if a man mastrubates too often or too rapidly, his penis begins to develop a healthy curve.
Oxwana
16-07-2005, 03:27
Actually, if a man mastrubates too often or too rapidly, his penis begins to develop a healthy curve.Why is the person in question necessarily a man?
Dobbsworld
16-07-2005, 04:10
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"

No, I've seen threads more stupid than this one.

And no, I wouldn't give you any advice even if I had any to give.

It's not healthy to refrain from self-pleasure.

Now, stroke it. It's good for you.
Dobbsworld
16-07-2005, 04:13
you must certainly have a definite reason for wanting to stop. mine was my faith, i could say to myself "this is wrong, and it breaks the heart of my God who has done so much for me", and after a few weeks the habit was broken. so ask yourself, why do you want to stop? it helps alot to be a Christian, just because most of the solid reasons to stop cease to exist if you're not.

Why would God want his children to be unhealthy and unhappy?

Masturbate as often as your body dictates. Abstinance leads to diseases of the mind and spirit.
Tluiko
16-07-2005, 11:26
What made you decide that you wanted to stop? What is it interfering with in your life? Do you have enough motivation?

Did I say its me? ;)
Ok, to be serious: I want to stop because
- imo watching porn decreases your sexual imagination
- I mainly watch it in the internet --> risks for PC on dubious site
- I dont want anyone to find out

Nevertheless it is interfering with nothing, but due to the reasons given I want to stop.
I hope I have got enogh motivation. Basically it is enough, but as mentioned before sometimes it is not.
Tluiko
16-07-2005, 11:30
avoid temptation

if its not in the house, you wont see it. if you are never in that "why not" position, you will never say "why not?"

i suggest that you talk to a councillor about this. some people do get addicted to porn; some are inherently guilty prudes who think that looking at a little is a huge deal. it would be good for you to know which you are. you need an objective outside source to tell you if you really have a problem or not. (dont go to your minister)

1. Temptation is always there though the internet and i definately will not stop surfing the net.
2. I am quite sure I am not addicted. When I had a girlfriend I watched it very rarely and only the soft stuff and in fact I just started doing it more often some weeks ago.
Tluiko
16-07-2005, 11:33
confession? (though I suppose you'd have to be Catholic) its good for the soul and helps to establish a new chapter in your life

I am Catholic (thats what my wage tax card tells), but in fact I am agnostic and dont want to and am not really able to change that.
Tluiko
16-07-2005, 11:36
Why would God want his children to be unhealthy and unhappy?

Masturbate as often as your body dictates. Abstinance leads to diseases of the mind and spirit.

I do, but I dont want to watch porn.
Lapse
17-07-2005, 05:52
Did I say its me? ;)
Ok, to be serious: I want to stop because
- imo watching porn decreases your sexual imagination
- I mainly watch it in the internet --> risks for PC on dubious site
- I dont want anyone to find out

1. doesn't it give you ideas?
2. Fire Wall.virus thing
3. So what better way than to go and post it all over the internet ;)
Sino
17-07-2005, 06:20
Because of this immoral, addictive habit, some country have very good reasons to ban it.

Here's a list of methods by which you can follow:

- Think of the subject as slut(s). They've sold themselves to other's pleasure. They're not virgins, either. Be sure to understand that by selling themselves to porn, it's only a varient of prostitution.

- I'm sure there are other things to do besides indulging in a room with dimmed lights and your hand in your groin. Focus on work or study that needs to be done. Focus on your hobbies and interests (other than porn). Do something accomplishing, like helping somebody with hardwork or build something. Pornography gives no sense of accomplishment.

- Exercise! Have take a long walk or jog. That'll release all that tension. Do press ups and try to beat your old record. Try hunting or fishing as that will easily wipe off your free time for porn. Masturbating isn't a physical exercise.

- Visit friends (ones that don't use porn) and socialize.

- Start or maintain a proper, romantic relationship with your significant other. Think of pornographic lust as mental adultery.

- Assume pornographic interest as adolescent and ungentlemanly. Society needs mature people.


I'm sure you can think of many more...
Saint Omen
17-07-2005, 06:26
How about you find yourself another girlfriend? Problem solved...
Sino
17-07-2005, 06:29
How about you find yourself another girlfriend? Problem solved...

By telling him to stop the porn and dump his girlfriend, he might have the time and money to get real whores. That's even worse.
Sino
17-07-2005, 06:32
If the person describing to be an addict has absolutely nothing better to do in his life, then maybe he should join the military. At least porn is contraband there and some discipline will be learnt, which shall remain useful for life.
Undelia
17-07-2005, 06:46
Is gauging your own eyes out with the pin from a broach not a fairly traditional response in circumstances not a million miles away from these?

Ha, ha, Oedipus.

Yeah because burning or destroying stuff you don't agree with is always fun.

Hey, if he owns it, let him burn it if he wants. Ha, ha stupid people buying Harry Potter books and burning them. They have your money idiots! They don’t care what you do with it.

-snip-

Sino, its really starting to creep me out that you sometimes post exactly what I was thinking, well except the government banning part.
Greedy Pig
17-07-2005, 07:29
Ah.. as the good book says, if your right eye causes you to sin.. Poke it out. :D

Okay, on a serious matter.. just stop. If your feeling randy.. do something to take your mind off it. Go do sports or sex to sweat out your love-love feelings.
Sino
17-07-2005, 08:58
Sino, its really starting to creep me out that you sometimes post exactly what I was thinking, well except the government banning part.

I just logged on, found some funny thread and decided to air my views on the matter. Are you conservative or right-wing? If so, I wouldn't be surprised if we think alike.
Sino
17-07-2005, 09:01
Ah.. as the good book says, if your right eye causes you to sin.. Poke it out. :D

Perhaps he needs his 9mm bullet or a cyanide tablet as his mind (in total control of his body) is causing him to sin. I don't support suicide or self harm but his issue needs to be addressed.
Tesspresstia
17-07-2005, 09:04
get off the internet
Seagrove
17-07-2005, 13:34
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"

If you're actually struggling with an addiction, try this website. http://www.pureintimacy.org/

Otherwise yeah, this was a retarded thread.
QuentinTarantino
17-07-2005, 13:38
Men watch porn
Women have sex with household objects

which is more perverted?
Taldaan
17-07-2005, 14:02
Unplug your internet connection, perhaps? And then don't buy pornographic videos, DVDs, or magazines. Delete all saved porn off your hard drive, and wipe any discs containing it.

Easy.
Tluiko
17-07-2005, 17:51
1. doesn't it give you ideas?
2. Fire Wall.virus thing
3. So what better way than to go and post it all over the internet ;)

1. no. it's to stupid
2. yeah, but you never know
3. :D well, the last point was not that important
Tluiko
17-07-2005, 18:00
Because of this immoral, addictive habit, some country have very good reasons to ban it.

In fact i do not even thnk it is immoral (as long as it only involves consenting adults). I rather think it is not a worthwhile activity.

Here's a list of methods by which you can follow:

- Think of the subject as slut(s). They've sold themselves to other's pleasure. They're not virgins, either. Be sure to understand that by selling themselves to porn, it's only a varient of prostitution.- Assume pornographic interest as adolescent and ungentlemanly. Society needs mature people

That are arguments why I do not want to do it.

- I'm sure there are other things to do besides indulging in a room with dimmed lights and your hand in your groin. Focus on work or study that needs to be done. Focus on your hobbies and interests (other than porn). Do something accomplishing, like helping somebody with hardwork or build something. Pornography gives no sense of accomplishment.

- Exercise! Have take a long walk or jog. That'll release all that tension. Do press ups and try to beat your old record. Try hunting or fishing as that will easily wipe off your free time for porn. Masturbating isn't a physical exercise.

- Visit friends (ones that don't use porn) and socialize.

There is always a little bit of time left. It's not like it was an addiction for me. It rather is a unpleasant habit.

- Start or maintain a proper, romantic relationship with your significant other. Think of pornographic lust as mental adultery.

As if that was so easy. My last (and only) relationship ended 2 month ago after having lasted more than 2 years.
Legless Pirates
17-07-2005, 18:01
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
Get a kid :D
Tluiko
17-07-2005, 18:02
Go do sports
At 3 o'clock in the morning?
Tluiko
17-07-2005, 18:05
If you're actually struggling with an addiction, try this website. http://www.pureintimacy.org/
Oh no, isn't this fundamentally christian?

Otherwise yeah, this was a retarded thread.
Why? I want to get rid of a unpleasant habit. That is just it what is wrong with that?
Greedy Pig
17-07-2005, 18:24
At 3 o'clock in the morning?

Why not? Depends on where you live that is.

Last time, I used to go jogging at 2am in the morning because I'm bored (And that was a time we still used 56k modem, so it was expensive to go online). Then I stopped ever since I was mugged. :p

So I just climb up and down the stairs.

If not.. do pushups and all sorts of aerobics. Do something.. especially in the evenings to keep you sleepy by nighttime, that you won't be too active.
The Vuhifellian States
17-07-2005, 18:33
Live in a church, but not a Catholic one, priests there always have mags lyin around [sarcasm]. Thats about the best advice I can give you, worked for me until I became atheist.
Oxwana
17-07-2005, 18:41
- Think of the subject as slut(s). They've sold themselves to other's pleasure. They're not virgins, either. Be sure to understand that by selling themselves to porn, it's only a varient of prostitution.That's not healthy at all. Please don't do that. Thinking that women are immoral people for making a living in the sex trade or not being virgins will change your perception of all women. It may also hinder your ability to get a new girlfriend, if that's what you're looking to do.
Oxwana
17-07-2005, 18:45
Men watch porn
Women have sex with household objects

which is more perverted?We do? That's kinda icky.
Greedy Pig
17-07-2005, 18:53
We do? That's kinda icky.

So you mean, cucumbers don't have black hairs? Omg :eek:
New Fubaria
17-07-2005, 19:01
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
Why not indeed. I can't see the harm in watching porn or why anyone would want to stop.

...but, if they really wanna stop, try putting icecubes in their undies...
New Fubaria
17-07-2005, 19:04
Because of this immoral, addictive habit, some country have very good reasons to ban it.

Here's a list of methods by which you can follow:

- Think of the subject as slut(s). They've sold themselves to other's pleasure. They're not virgins, either. Be sure to understand that by selling themselves to porn, it's only a varient of prostitution.

- I'm sure there are other things to do besides indulging in a room with dimmed lights and your hand in your groin. Focus on work or study that needs to be done. Focus on your hobbies and interests (other than porn). Do something accomplishing, like helping somebody with hardwork or build something. Pornography gives no sense of accomplishment.

- Exercise! Have take a long walk or jog. That'll release all that tension. Do press ups and try to beat your old record. Try hunting or fishing as that will easily wipe off your free time for porn. Masturbating isn't a physical exercise.

- Visit friends (ones that don't use porn) and socialize.

- Start or maintain a proper, romantic relationship with your significant other. Think of pornographic lust as mental adultery.

- Assume pornographic interest as adolescent and ungentlemanly. Society needs mature people.


I'm sure you can think of many more...
Thank f**k I don't live in the totalitarian, 1984 type of society you seem to advocate...

...just guessing here, but you'd be an avid Christian who loves Dubbya?
Baranxtu
17-07-2005, 21:35
Well, I can't help you stop watching porn, but about your worries:


- imo watching porn decreases your sexual imagination
- I mainly watch it in the internet --> risks for PC on dubious site
- I dont want anyone to find out

1. Well, that is can be a little bit true. Maybe you should start reading pornographic stories, picturing the story in your head, certain to get your imagination going.
2. Don't click on everything that says 'pussy&tits'/'cocks&asses'. And get yourself a firewall and virus scan program.
3. Lock the door. Be fast with the ctrl+F4 combination. Clear your cookies, etc. regularly.
Chikyota
17-07-2005, 21:41
Pornography gives no sense of accomplishment.
Heh, only if you do it wrong.

Exercise! Have take a long walk or jog. That'll release all that tension....Masturbating isn't a physical exercise. My god, this may be the funniest thing I've heard in weeks. Do you honestly believe that?

Visit friends (ones that don't use porn) and socialize. Good luck finding some.
Liskeinland
17-07-2005, 22:31
Abstinance leads to diseases of the mind and spirit. Thank you for just explaining my entire psychological condition. ;)
Abstinence doesn't harm, indulgence harms… LaVey is wrong!

Other than that… I really don't know how you can stop. Maybe flog yourself? Unless that kind of thing excites you?
Letila
18-07-2005, 02:11
Sino is really authoritarian, it seems. He sounds almost fascist.
Lokiaa
18-07-2005, 02:17
Sino just got a few more pluses in my book for proposing realistic solutions. :p
Terecia
18-07-2005, 02:37
Ok I didn't get back to ya for a while there but, how 'bout something uncoventional? Get one of those parental control things like Net Nanny or Safe Surf or whatever its called, get your friend over one day and get him to type in a random password, then he/she won't tell ya and leave. Now the situation cannot occur.
Dragons Bay
18-07-2005, 03:08
Do you have a specific purpose? If not, why do it?
Celtlund
18-07-2005, 03:39
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"

Well, if you are serious you can always poke a pen in your right eye and a pencil in your left eye. I guarantee you will stop watching porn, but I don't recommend it. Try having your prostrate gland removed, that should cure you.

Until then just take matters into your own hands, I’m sure you will come up with the solution. :eek:
:D
The Great Sixth Reich
18-07-2005, 03:44
http://www.obscenitycrimes.org

This tells you why porn is bad...
Great Denizistan
18-07-2005, 11:58
Actually, if a man mastrubates too often or too rapidly, his penis begins to develop a healthy curve.

very true, and it is proven by scientists that is good for your health.
Freistaat Sachsen
18-07-2005, 12:33
Masturbation is healthy if done say, once a day, it reduces your risk of prostate cancer significantly ... my solution to your problem is: get a chick, one thats really really good in bed, that way you'll get so drained sexualy that porn will be the last thing on your mind, and sleep and chilling will be your first.
New Fubaria
18-07-2005, 13:15
Smoke lots of Mary Jane, that kills libido...:p
El Porro
18-07-2005, 13:24
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
Hmm, tricky. 'Why not?' is proven to be the strongest rhetorical argument in existence, just ahead of 'yeah, so?'

You could always try getting a real girlfriend..
(Anyone already mentioned that?)
Sino
18-07-2005, 22:40
...just guessing here, but you'd be an avid Christian who loves Dubbya?

I hate to break this to you, I'm Chinese and I think Dubya is a wanker (no offense to the person we're trying to help with here)!

I'm not Christian but I have a fanatical sense of morality.
Sino
18-07-2005, 22:41
Smoke lots of Mary Jane, that kills libido...:p

It'll give him other health problems and dangers.
Sino
18-07-2005, 22:43
Sino just got a few more pluses in my book for proposing realistic solutions. :p

What book? I deserve some credit, kid!
Sino
18-07-2005, 22:53
Thank f**k I don't live in the totalitarian, 1984 type of society you seem to advocate...

According to the book, they had a special department called Pornosec that produced pornography to keep the proles happy.
[NS]Ihatevacations
18-07-2005, 23:04
Ok I didn't get back to ya for a while there but, how 'bout something uncoventional? Get one of those parental control things like Net Nanny or Safe Surf or whatever its called, get your friend over one day and get him to type in a random password, then he/she won't tell ya and leave. Now the situation cannot occur.
those are mostly crap because some stuff wont be filtered and soem stuff that doesnt need to be will be
The Noble Men
18-07-2005, 23:05
Assuming you're a bloke who watches it to masturbate, here's the best way to stop:

Watch porn.
Get erect.
Wank, WANK, WANK!!! Hard and fast.

Do this three times a day. Eventually your penis will develop friction burns that means that you won't want to watch any porn for at least a week.
New Fubaria
19-07-2005, 04:59
I hate to break this to you, I'm Chinese and I think Dubya is a wanker (no offense to the person we're trying to help with here)!

I'm not Christian but I have a fanatical sense of morality.
Fair enough - I had you pegged wrong. I still think your morals are a bit...concerning? BTW, are you religious at all?
New Fubaria
19-07-2005, 05:02
It'll give him other health problems and dangers.
Uh...OK...:rolleyes:

...heard of sarcasm, or a joke? :D
UpwardThrust
19-07-2005, 05:09
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
My answer would be “why not?” unless it comes to the point of sexual addiction where it starts causing harm in the rest of your life
Drzhen
19-07-2005, 05:11
I think pornography can be healthy. You certainly get a wide range of varieties, and hell, you might just learn something.
Lokiaa
19-07-2005, 05:23
very true, and it is proven by scientists that is good for your health.
Wait, having a curve in your penis is HEALTHY?
Jeez, all I thought it did was make girls laugh at you...and figured it could probably produce some serious blood flow problems. :)

What book? I deserve some credit, kid!
Begging for credit gives you negative points. :p
The Soviet Americas
19-07-2005, 05:54
Wait, having a curve in your penis is HEALTHY?
Jeez, all I thought it did was make girls laugh at you...and figured it could probably produce some serious blood flow problems. :)
You'd think it was healthy! You'd think it would...fit better, what with the women having not only curves on the outside! :p
Sino
19-07-2005, 06:10
Fair enough - I had you pegged wrong. I still think your morals are a bit...concerning? BTW, are you religious at all?

Ahh, religion. A topic that provides me with many hours of intrigue. I was born as supposedly atheist as the average post-communist Chinese man. I never thought about seriously about faith.

My father was a professor, so he introduced me to science at a young age (at the age of 6, I knew what the periodic table was for). As I grew, I came into very normal contacts of the Chinese of Feng Shui, the worshipping ancestors and various minor dieties (sometimes based on a certain aspect of nature, sometimes based on an actual historical figure). I am proud to say that I'm proud of my ancestors and I am entitled to worship and honor them.

At one stage in my early teens, my absorption into science and it's might had clashed with my meagre spiritual beliefs at the time. However, through reading books and being convinced by my rational father, I am aware that what is classed as spiritual and supernatural simply cannot be explained by today's science but cannot be ignored or dismissed entirely.

During my teens, I admit that I suffered an identity crisis after many years of living in the West. After encountering racial discrimination, no matter how culturally White I can be, I've been forced to undergo an examination of Chinese culture. I have considered adhering to traditional Chinese morals (which in many aspects similar to White ones, with a great focus for one's kin) Now, I consider myself culturally two-faced.

After my encounters with Christianity in the West, I was appalled by the stories of their forefathers killing scientists in God's name and delaying furtherence of science and technology. That drove me into a period of atheism. However, I learned that there are modernist Christians (they believe in revising dogma after being convinced by the logic and proof from science) about as well. What I fail to understand about Christian doctrine is that they dismiss my faith of ancestral worship and Feng Shui as occultist supersitions. I fail to understand why Christians seek conflict, unlike the how faiths in China (Taoists and Buddhists) adhere to a strict apolitical stance and complete tolerance. After seeing conflicts rising from the Reformation in Europe and the drive Christians have over anti-Semitism, I realised that something's not so superior about that faith. As the Christian faith declines, morals in the West rot away like untreated timber. Unlike the Chinese, it appears that their sole source of morals come from the Church.

As I watch society's moral decline, I have adopted my current views towards morals and nationalism. My opinion is that religion must never dictate the State (India had to be carved up over a row between Hindus and Muslims). Science must be placed ahead of religion (technology brings more benefits, while religion stalls on their few texts) as religion is a very personal matter. Combining my morals and my idea of nationalism's key aspect being the preservation of national image, I sense that an immoral nation is never a respectable nation. Can an entire nation bear the shame of a few individuals? There are subversive or traitor elements and practices in society that act as cancer in a body.
Sino
19-07-2005, 06:11
The addiction of porn can be a bit hard to quit. During the process, you may get cold jerky.
Aminantinia
19-07-2005, 07:52
As the Christian faith declines, morals in the West rot away like untreated timber



Well, I suppose that just goes to prove the point that morality is relative. Personally I wouldn't say that the morals of the West are in decline, but I'd certainly agree with you that they're currently screwed up. It's the pendulum swinging the other way: the morals of society sucked then and they suck now. If only everyone would adopt my stance on everything :D
Basilicata Potenza
19-07-2005, 07:53
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"

I find pornography quite repulsive and demeaning. It's disgusting that women would do that, THAT for money, after the oppertunities that we now have of becoming doctors and lawyers and everything...why do that for a job? Granted the money is probably good, but it's just so demeaning to sell yourself for money... it's disturbing. I would suggest you just stop, why not join a sport, go rock climbing or something. Just find a real person, you don't need porn to 'get the job done,' find a girlfriend/boyfriend, whatever way you swing, just get someone you'll care about instead of some woman on a video tape where the chances are she would never date you anyway. I'm just saying... not trying to be mean or anything but I just don't think it's likely to happen. Ohh sorry if I just totally destroyed all hope you had of meeting someone like that, I didn't mean to.
New Fubaria
19-07-2005, 07:53
The addiction of porn can be a bit hard to quit. During the process, you may get cold jerky.
LOL :P
Sino
19-07-2005, 07:55
Well, I suppose that just goes to prove the point that morality is relative. Personally I wouldn't say that the morals of the West are in decline, but I'd certainly agree with you that they're currently screwed up. It's the pendulum swinging the other way: the morals of society sucked then and they suck now. If only everyone would adopt my stance on everything :D

The moral corruption in the West is simply alarming. This is the decade where perverts like homosexuals legitimize that they can marry. Our children shall be witnessing a similar campaign where even greater perverts attempt rewrite the law so that they can marry animals!
Sino
19-07-2005, 07:56
LOL :P

Even at times like these, you've got to keep a sense of humor about it. Laughter's one of the best medicine.
Sino
19-07-2005, 08:01
I read a brief article in the newspaper recently that some cops in India (a nation where porn is illegal in many parts) busted a large group of teens watching a porn flick.

The police confiscated the contraband then forced the boys on to the streets to be punished by public humiliation (India's another overcrowded nation). They were forced to perform sit ups in front of not only strangers but also their parents, then forced to take a vow never to watch porn again.

What I'm suggesting is that the addict who is seeking our help should not only confess to his superiors (parents at least) and punish himself physically, either through intensive physical exercise or self flagellation in public to learn his lesson.

I know this is extreme, but I'm sure we can always learn from a country that is older and wiser than ours.
Sino
19-07-2005, 08:04
I find pornography quite repulsive and demeaning. It's disgusting that women would do that, THAT for money, after the oppertunities that we now have of becoming doctors and lawyers and everything...why do that for a job? Granted the money is probably good, but it's just so demeaning to sell yourself for money... it's disturbing. I would suggest you just stop, why not join a sport, go rock climbing or something. Just find a real person, you don't need porn to 'get the job done,' find a girlfriend/boyfriend, whatever way you swing, just get someone you'll care about instead of some woman on a video tape where the chances are she would never date you anyway. I'm just saying... not trying to be mean or anything but I just don't think it's likely to happen. Ohh sorry if I just totally destroyed all hope you had of meeting someone like that, I didn't mean to.

We need to knock some sense in to his head, so I permit you to continue. There are times when the modern man is out off touch with reality.
Aminantinia
19-07-2005, 08:12
What is wrong or immoral about self-pleasure? What's wrong with homosexual relations and marriage? Where do you get your morals from, Sino?

Before you get offended, please don't take this the wrong way; I'm seriously asking these questions. They're not rhetorical, I'd like answers and perhaps some questions of your own.
Basilicata Potenza
19-07-2005, 08:17
We need to knock some sense in to his head, so I permit you to continue. There are times when the modern man is out off touch with reality.

hahah you PERMIT me to continue.... well I could go into a huge paragraph about this but it's past 3am so I really don't feel like it.
Sino
19-07-2005, 08:24
hahah you PERMIT me to continue.... well I could go into a huge paragraph about this but it's past 3am so I really don't feel like it.

You've been relieved. Do come back on a later date to continue the exorcism.
Sino
19-07-2005, 08:25
What is wrong or immoral about self-pleasure? What's wrong with homosexual relations and marriage? Where do you get your morals from, Sino?

Before you get offended, please don't take this the wrong way; I'm seriously asking these questions. They're not rhetorical, I'd like answers and perhaps some questions of your own.

I don't know what you mean by self pleasure. Are you referring to masturbation or pornography? Homosexualism just isn't natural nor culturally acceptable in many societies.
Basilicata Potenza
19-07-2005, 08:27
You've been relieved. Do come back on a later date to continue the exorcism.

I'm still here, I just don't feel like explaining things in paragraphs right now. If you do not understand why I capitalized permit then you have truly shown what type of person you are.
Aminantinia
19-07-2005, 08:28
I was referring to masturbation, and I'll have to see your reply to that before I can address the homosexuality part of your post. Though I will say this: what isn't culturally acceptable isn't necessarily wrong. As you so kindly pointed out for us, science was not considered culturally acceptable during much of medieval European history.
Sino
19-07-2005, 08:53
Masturbation, along with many things sexual aren't openly discussed in my culture. Therefore, I would not know the official stance about it.

I do not understand how the Church appears to be the sole source of morality in the West. I doubt that it was acceptable in Western Europe even before Christ. science was never in favor of the social argument regardign homosexuals.
Aminantinia
19-07-2005, 08:59
I wasn't trying to tie science and homosexuality together, I was just trying to point out that not all things that are considered unacceptable are truly bad.

And what do you mean you don't know the official stance on it? Think about it, then get back to me. I don't want to know what your culture thinks about it, I want to know what you think.
Merthur
19-07-2005, 09:23
Have you noticed the addiction cycle? You can read about it:

it this repeting:

- you don't feel that good about yourself (here is the easiest to break the cycle - try to see that life is better, "talk" with yourself)

- you start to hunt/search for things to see

- it happents again

and all over again

Tip: search on google and have a little pacience - you will find about the cycle the steps to do and also you realise that it can happen to anyone
Sino
19-07-2005, 09:25
And what do you mean you don't know the official stance on it? Think about it, then get back to me. I don't want to know what your culture thinks about it, I want to know what you think.

Maturbation is something I find too taboo to discuss.
Laerod
19-07-2005, 09:42
Masturbation ialong with many things sexual aren't openly discussed in my culture. Therefore, I would not know the official stance about it.

I do not understand how the Church appears to be the sole source of morality in the West. I doubt that it was acceptable in Western Europe even before Christ. science was never in favor of the social argument regardign homosexuals.
The Greeks didn't mind it and they were what is considered the first Western civilization.
Sino
19-07-2005, 10:06
The Greeks didn't mind it and they were what is considered the first Western civilization.

The Greeks also owned slaves.
Laerod
19-07-2005, 10:26
The Greeks also owned slaves.And they didn't treat them as badly as some others. What's your point?
The Eternal Scapegoats
19-07-2005, 10:29
Maybe this is the most stupid thread ever, but is here anyone who can give advice to someone who tries to stop watching porn, but is not sucessful, as when it comes to it it is rather like: "Why not?"
Think of your sister uh.....unless your into that sort of thing, then think of your dog......uh unless your into that to, then think of your dad......um you know what never mind, your just sick!
Sino
19-07-2005, 10:37
And they didn't treat them as badly as some others. What's your point?

People of the modern day shouldn't use what the ancients did as an excuse.
Laerod
19-07-2005, 10:43
People of the modern day shouldn't use what the ancients did as an excuse.But that would completely demolish Western legal practice. Where would we be without precedents?
Sino
19-07-2005, 10:56
But that would completely demolish Western legal practice.

Where does Western legal practice some into this?

I think we're way off topic here. I've been thinking of a better solution for that guy to quit. He should take it like smoking.
Laerod
19-07-2005, 11:02
Where does Western legal practice some into this?

I think we're way off topic here. I've been thinking of a better solution for that guy to quit. He should take it like smoking.Guess you're right (about the getting off topic).
As for the guy getting off, I don't believe pornography is wrong (unless it depicts children or something in that direction), but if he wants to get off, get rid of whatever he has and just picture the most disgusting thing imaginable (since this varies, its up to him) whenever he thinks about it.
El Porro
19-07-2005, 11:06
...your penis will develop friction burns that means that you won't want to watch any porn for at least a week.
Uuuughh! Friction burns! They sting..

[Unrelated note: never ever have sex on a carpet, it's not designed with flesh rubbing in mind, the one time I did that I skinned both elbows and both knees. It was grim..]
Sino
20-07-2005, 02:16
I think I have a probable solution- take it like smoking.

One effective method for a smoker to quit (drawn out over a long period), is to slowly reduce his exposure to the drug (tobacco is one drug that is legal). What I am suggesting is that the subject should quit by slowly reducing his exposure to pornography (replace the available time he has for porn with more wholesome activities). Slowly, this may take more than a year, this reduction will be permanent.

By setting realistic goals, such as reducing the time he spends on porn (e.g. one hour less per week), complete independence from this addiction can be achieved. It is also useful to seek psychological help to overcome this addiction. It's also a confidential service.
Sino
20-07-2005, 02:18
Uuuughh! Friction burns! They sting..

If there is oil present on the surface, the heat generated by friction may result in ignition. LOL!
Sino
20-07-2005, 02:24
Where is that sleaze bag anyway? I hope he's got time to read all our replies instead of beating his bishop again.
Xiaguo
20-07-2005, 02:26
hahahaha
Secret aj man
20-07-2005, 02:27
Ewww, you'll ruin it for everyone now!
Or you could picture this:
http://www.aeroplastics.net/FT/pages/Divine3.jpg


that was scary...lol
Sino
20-07-2005, 02:28
hahahaha

If society isn't all tangled up in "freedom of expression" and "political correctness", I'm sure there would be corrections facilities where we can send him off to for him to be cured.


Regarding the case of the Indian porn bust, 200 people were arrested in the premise, all of them were male.
Xiaguo
20-07-2005, 02:32
Hmm, right, right.
Sino
20-07-2005, 02:37
Hmm, right, right.

I don't come here for yes men. Please contribute something useful to the discussion or join in the bandwagon of denoucing his behavior.
Tluiko
24-07-2005, 15:03
You could always try getting a real girlfriend..

Just for having sex?
In my book then porn is better.
Tluiko
24-07-2005, 15:11
[...]some woman on a video tape where the chances are she would never date you anyway. I'm just saying... not trying to be mean or anything but I just don't think it's likely to happen. Ohh sorry if I just totally destroyed all hope you had of meeting someone like that, I didn't mean to.
imo my last girlfriend was much sexier.
Vimeria
24-07-2005, 20:18
Sino, I just have to ask you something. What is the harm in society accepting, for example, homosexuality? Please don't bring up concepts like 'decline of moral standards' - Too vague, too abstract. Also don't resort to the 'today homosexuality, tomorrow pedophilia', let's just trust in the future generations' ability to condemn practices that really are harmful.

So please, present the real, concrete, direct harm caused by society not intruding into the private lives of its people?