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The people who are against these new Harry Potter book don't make sense. The book is completely fiction, it's opening children's minds to fantasy and reading, their aren't any real spells of witchcraft in there, and definitely not any references to being anti-bible. Otherwise, if you're going to ban Harry Potter, then why don't you just ban all fantasy that has magic in it. How stupd is that?

Yeah It's stupid, why don't they ban santa and the tooth fairy, too?

Harry Potter is a tool of the Devil!

Really, I don't understand either. If they find it offensive, then they could simply not read it.

blame the catholic bulldog, he is no help. condemning it after his predecessor said it was ok and contained good values :rolleyes:

Harry Potter has turned millions of children on to reading in an era of I-Pods and billion dollar advertising. If supporting that is bad, I've got some serious explaining to do when I reach The Big Guy.

If anything the book is something Christians should be supporting, there are themes and morals in the book that are supported by all forms of Christianity, some evangelists even think Harry is a christ figure.

If anything the book is something Christians should be supporting, there are themes and morals in the book that are supported by all forms of Christianity, some evangelists even think Harry is a christ figure.
You can't compare Jesus to Harry, Harry can fly and has magic powers. I don't recall Jesus ever flying.

i agree, stupid Christian evangilists, Harry > Jesus

You can't compare Jesus to Harry, Harry can fly and has magic powers. I don't recall Jesus ever flying.
No, but He can walk on water. I bet silly Harry can't do that!

No, but He can walk on water. I bet silly Harry can't do that!
He could walk on water if he wanted to! Harry can play Quiditch or however the hell you spell it. He can also make Dementors go away.

Can Jesus do that, huh, huh?

You can't compare Jesus to Harry, Harry can fly and has magic powers. I don't recall Jesus ever flying.

Who cares about flying? That water to wine thing is the greatest party trick ever.

Who cares about flying? That water to wine thing is the greatest party trick ever.
Yeah, but was it good wine?

Everyone wants kids to read and this gets them to. They should be happy for that.

He could walk on water if he wanted to! Harry can play Quiditch or however the hell you spell it. He can also make Dementors go away.

Can Jesus do that, huh, huh?

Jesus is gonna come back and kick Satan square in the nuts. And Satan has to be as strong as, like, 50 Dementors.

Jesus is gonna come back and kick Satan square in the nuts. And Satan has to be as strong as, like, 50 Dementors.
Harry can kill people just by touching them, he doesn't even need kick them in the nuts!

I love the fundie nuts who decry Harry Potter as "evil" and "satanic".


It's obvious that not a one of them has read or understood the books. Rowling constantly demonstrates that love is the greatest power of all. What idea could be more christian than a theme of the power of love? After all... Is that not the lesson Jesus taught?

Or maybe my agnostisism is speaking = /.

I don't see what's wrong with the books, but I personally don't like them. I'm more for Terry Pratchett and Kurt Vonegut, but millions of kids have gotten into reading because of the books, and that's really good.

Quite pointless to say its Satanic and all that, I personally love the books, and the movies...... I mean, its a good story How can you Not understand life from story? Some religious people say they are so far down and believe in this so much yadda yadda yadda and all they do is use it for an excuse to complain at times.... I dont find that very good at all.... The books teach many things Cheers!

Yeah, the books are good (but not as much as Star Wars!!!!!! :D :D :D :D !!!)... But they were better when nobody knew about it, when they were no mivies and all...

The first Harry Potter I read was the second, when I was ten or something... almost five years, already... I'm getting old... I'll have to buy a new denture :eek: ...

*waits for neo rogolia*

Harry Potter=Good behavior?

Time to do an indirect proof from math class.

Statement Reason
1. Harry Potter is a wizard 1.Given
2. Harry Potter goes to Hogwarts 2. Given
3. Hogwarts teaches Witchcraft and wizardry 3. Given
4. Witchcraft goes against Catholic beliefs 4. Given
5. Harry Potter gets rewarded for killing people 5. Given
6. Harry Potter gets rewarded for breaking rules 6. Given
7. Harry Potter<>Good behavior 7. Contradiction if he taught good behavior

It was actually 2 steps, but this looks neater.

Harry Potter taught me how to worship satan and conjur demons to do my evil bidding. Then he gave me AIDS.

Harry Potter taught me how to worship satan and conjur demons to do my evil bidding. Then he gave me AIDS.
Teh God shalst kill thou!!

Harry Potter=Good behavior?

Time to do an indirect proof from math class.

Statement Reason
1. Harry Potter is a wizard 1.Given
2. Harry Potter goes to Hogwarts 2. Given
3. Hogwarts teaches Witchcraft and wizardry 3. Given
4. Witchcraft goes against Catholic beliefs 4. Given

All of these are factual. That said, "witchcraft" that is featured in Harry Potter has little to do with the superstitions ripe in the middle ages.

5. Harry Potter gets rewarded for killing people 5. Given


Bullcrap


6. Harry Potter gets rewarded for breaking rules 6. Given


Also disengenuous. When Harry does break the rules, he does so for a good reason. He also receives a number of punishments for his breaking of the rules.


7. Harry Potter<>Good behavior 7. Contradiction if he taught good behavior


WTF? ... That's absolute nonsense. Is there something more good then being willing to sacrifice your life for others? For fighting to defend people, even when you barely know them? (Case in point; Ginny Weasley).

I love the way the religious right is so damn disengenuous. :rolleyes:

Harry can kill people just by touching them, he doesn't even need kick them in the nuts!Kicking them in the nuts is touching them, you dolt. :rolleyes:


*waits for neo rogolia**Joins in*

*Brings popcorn*

*Joins in*

*Brings popcorn*

Oh... That should make for a rather amusing little forumfire, shouldn't it?

Oh... That should make for a rather amusing little forumfire, shouldn't it?Popcorn burns very easily, though...doesn't it? ;)

Popcorn burns very easily, though...doesn't it? ;)

Breif but brilliant then.

Kicking them in the nuts is touching them, you dolt. :rolleyes:

*Joins in*

*Brings popcorn*
Yes, it isn't? Well you see, er, uh...the Devil made me say it.

*adds butter*

I happen to be religious. I’m one of those, everything in the NT is applicable, and the OT should be taken with a grain of salt, since it’s the old law. That said, I love the books, despite them being below my normal reading level, and I don’t see anything particular evil or antichristian about it. I mean the characters celebrate Christmas, without cynicism :eek:.

*waits for neo rogolia*

As a student of history, I quite enjoy her posts. Its like looking back in time to Puritanical New England :D .

Yes, it isn't? Well you see, er, uh...the Devil made me say it.

*adds butter**Adds salt*

Where is Neo-R and the rest of the Fundamentalist Crowd??? *impatient*

*Adds salt*

Where is Neo-R and the rest of the Fundamentalist Crowd??? *impatient*


Maybe they're too busy waiting in line for the books.

As a student of history, I quite enjoy her posts. Its like looking back in time to Puritanical New England.Yes, she appears to be a sensible, organized poster with nearly rational arguments that just happen to fall on the radical fundamentalist side of things.

Maybe they're too busy waiting in line for the books.I was going to do that, but I ran out of time.

I was going to do that, but I ran out of time.

Meh... Did that last time. It really wasn't worth it IMO. I finished the book in five hours anyway.

*Adds salt*

Where is Neo-R and the rest of the Fundamentalist Crowd??? *impatient*
Yeah, I'm getting worried.

Guff. All the others harry potter books were poop. why should i buy this one???

Meh... Did that last time. It really wasn't worth it IMO. I finished the book in five hours anyway.Yeah...so did I...just I didn't buy it, I sat there at the bookstore and finished it. Then I got it from the library and reread it. I love rereading. :cool:

Guff. All the others harry potter books were poop. why should i buy this one???Because you get a 40% discount?

Yeah, I'm getting worried.

It's not like them to stay this silent when they have a chance to condemn the immorality of modern culture... Something must be wrong.

I don't think this was supposed to be Jesus vs Harry Potter, but Jesus is God, he can do anything he wants.

But there is nothing wrong with reading Harry Potter. Dungeons and Dragons is the bad stuff. The place that is made is right next to a Satanist church, can I've heard they go in their and base their spells on actual Satanist spells.

It's not like them to stay this silent when they have a chance to condemn the immorality of modern culture... Something must be wrong.

Oh crap, I must have missed the rapture! :eek: :( :D

Oh crap, I must have missed the rapture! :eek: :( :D

I had wondered why there were so many insects outside... Well... Saves me mowing the lawn, eh?

It's not like them to stay this silent when they have a chance to condemn the immorality of modern culture... Something must be wrong.Perhaps it's all a huge terrorist commie plot! HP isn't really immoral!!!! O God, save us from the evil liberal terrorist commie Jews trying to brainwash into believing $IDEOLOGY!!!!!111

It's not like them to stay this silent when they have a chance to condemn the immorality of modern culture... Something must be wrong.
Should I call 911?

Should I call 911?Nah, don't. We're having too much fun spamming.

:)

Perhaps it's all a huge terrorist commie plot! HP isn't really immoral!!!! O God, save us from the evil liberal terrorist commie Jews trying to brainwash into believing $IDEOLOGY!!!!!111

Shoot... Now you've gone and spoiled JK Rowling's world domination scheme.... THere go my shares in Bloomsbury. :P.

Should I call 911?

Nah, you're more likely to get a response if you call 666. ;)

Perhaps it's all a huge terrorist commie plot! HP isn't really immoral!!!! O God, save us from the evil liberal terrorist commie Jews trying to brainwash into believing $IDEOLOGY!!!!!111

You forgot about the militant gays! They are the ring leaders!

Shoot... Now you've gone and spoiled JK Rowling's world domination scheme.... THere go my shares in Bloomsbury. :P.Wait. Since JK Rowling and Kervoskia both had world domination schemes... /me puts 2 and 2 together\ Kervoskia = JK Rowling! Hence "his" posting in this thread! I knew it!!!

Wait. Since JK Rowling and Kervoskia both had world domination schemes... /me puts 2 and 2 together\ Kervoskia = JK Rowling! Hence "his" posting in this thread! I knew it!!!

It makes perfect sense. I mean, JK Rowling is obviously a very political person (she did work for those evil partisan hacks at Amnesty International :P), so she comes to NS General to begin pracitice for her propoganda speeches. Then, when we aren't looking, she hacks the jolt server to connect to a sattelite and send out mind rays to every Harry Potter book.

I need to get my tinfoil glasses... Brb... ;)

It makes perfect sense. I mean, JK Rowling is obviously a very political person (she did work for those evil partisan hacks at Amnesty International :P), so she comes to NS General to begin pracitice for her propoganda speeches. Then, when we aren't looking, she hacks the jolt server to connect to a sattelite and send out mind rays to every Harry Potter book.I got that all except the sattelite part. What's a "sattelite"?

Oh, do you mean a "satellite"? Now it's more clear. ;)

Wait. Since JK Rowling and Kervoskia both had world domination schemes... /me puts 2 and 2 together\ Kervoskia = JK Rowling! Hence "his" posting in this thread! I knew it!!!
Blast, you know too much! My armies are strong though, they will not fail.

I have to admit, I have only read the first book. I hear the others are just as good, but are they?

Blast, you know too much! My armies are strong though, they will not fail.

I have to admit, I have only read the first book. I hear the others are just as good, but are they?

2 & 3 have great charm, equal to if not greater than 1's. 4 is boring IMO, in comparison. 5 is wonderful, but completely different from the first 3 and 4.

2 & 3 have great charm, equal to if not greater than 1's. 4 is boring IMO, in comparison. 5 is wonderful, but completely different from the first 3 and 4.My personal favorite is 3, but I liked the whole series until the end of Book 5 when it went down the drain as the traditional, much-overused arch-nemesis plot plan for the next two books. Rowling will have to do some exceptional things to convince me to read the rest.Blast, you know too much! My armies are strong though, they will not fail.
Yeah, right. I have ~500 million trusted warriors, over 40 million of which are Superior Beings with the power equaling 120 or more H-bombs. I mean, I rule the Multiverse, and you only rule over your house! :D

What's your army made up of? Ants?

Yeah It's stupid, why don't they ban santa and the tooth fairy, too?
Trust me, some fundamentalist Christians would if they could...

I'll bet not a single one of the people who think that the Harry Potter books are Satanic or something have actually read any of them. Plus, as someone else mentioned, they celebrate Christmas! Get a clue religious wackos! Not that I'm not religious, I'm a Christian, but...there's Christianity, and there's fanatical, everything-cool-is-the-devil Christianity.

I'll bet not a single one of the people who think that the Harry Potter books are Satanic or something have actually read any of them. Plus, as someone else mentioned, they celebrate Christmas! Get a clue religious wackos! Not that I'm not religious, I'm a Christian, but...there's Christianity, and there's fanatical, everything-cool-is-the-devil Christianity.Exactly. That's why evangelism and fundamentalism =/= Christianity.

My personal favorite is 3, but I liked the whole series until the end of Book 5 when it went down the drain as the traditional, much-overused arch-nemesis plot plan for the next two books. Rowling will have to do some exceptional things to convince me to read the rest.
Well considering this is the next to last book, why would you read it and not read the finale because she didnt do amazing things, not liek tehre is an entire series left -_-

Ihatevacations']Well considering this is the next to last book, why would you read it and not read the finale because she didnt do amazing things, not liek tehre is an entire series left -_-I suppose so.... ~_^ I haven't read this yet, though. I might read the finale, too, if only to find out what the fellow does after finishing school. (Because I need to know, too. I have to finish my college application by the end of this summer. Lol!)

(Why isn't there a ~_^ smilie? Why? Why? Why? :headbang: )

If anything the book is something Christians should be supporting, there are themes and morals in the book that are supported by all forms of Christianity, some evangelists even think Harry is a christ figure.
Yes, but they say "the evil magic outweighs the good by like 100000000x".

Harry Potter blows. Lord of the Rings is the way to go.

Harry Potter blows. Lord of the Rings is the way to go.I like LOTR, but I prefer HP. Too many Feanors and Gondors and Isildurs and Esargoths for my uncomplicated, tiny, and usually improperly functioning brain. :D

The people who are against these new Harry Potter book don't make sense. The book is completely fiction, it's opening children's minds to fantasy and reading, their aren't any real spells of witchcraft in there, and definitely not any references to being anti-bible. Otherwise, if you're going to ban Harry Potter, then why don't you just ban all fantasy that has magic in it. How stupd is that?

The curious thing is... Christians DON'T object to the Bible... which has witchcraft (Endor, priests of Egypt, etc) aplenty... and violence, incest, prostitution, murder, rape, homosexuality, blasphemy... you name it.

The Christians who oppose the Harry Potter books are hypocritical.

A few things 'bout Harry Potter that I dislike:

ONE - Morons in charge of wizardy and stupid names
TWO - Godmoding.

One is the Ministry of Magic. I mean, do they get their budget from Tony Blaire or do they just leech off of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (or whatever). And how about the whole "We keep seperate from the world becuase they would be begging for help, and we are too lazy arsed to do anything, despite being all good and all." Of course, if the world found out 'bout this, they would go nuts, and prolly nuke the hell out of hogwarts and co. And Deatheaters is the dumbest name for the evil faction ever.
Two is harry just inventing some new uber-skill, then Volde doing the same. Plus the whole magical anti-modern tech sheild around Hogwarts.
And wouldn't the Taxmen notice that one heck of a lot of people are paying in galleons? or do they Godmod out of that.

Its actually not that bad though

Christians are against everything that is new and out of the box. Every story has to be about Jesus in their eyes. That is why me no like the Catholic Church! (no offense to any Catholics; I am insulting the people not the religion :D )

O and by the way

LOTR > Harry Potter x 1,000,000

LOTR ROX UR SOX!!!!!!!11111

LOTR IS MORE 1337 THAN j00

But really Lord of the Rings is better than Harry Potter

A few things 'bout Harry Potter that I dislike:

ONE - Morons in charge of wizardy and stupid names
TWO - Godmoding.

One is the Ministry of Magic. I mean, do they get their budget from Tony Blaire or do they just leech off of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (or whatever). And how about the whole "We keep seperate from the world becuase they would be begging for help, and we are too lazy arsed to do anything, despite being all good and all." Of course, if the world found out 'bout this, they would go nuts, and prolly nuke the hell out of hogwarts and co. And Deatheaters is the dumbest name for the evil faction ever.
Two is harry just inventing some new uber-skill, then Volde doing the same. Plus the whole magical anti-modern tech sheild around Hogwarts.
And wouldn't the Taxmen notice that one heck of a lot of people are paying in galleons? or do they Godmod out of that.

Its actually not that bad though1) The way I see it (the MM) is as yet another branch of the huge British government, allotted its funds when needed, but no-one can remember who is in charge of it, where it is, or what it does, and are just too lazy to change it.

Or alternately, what does it need funding for? Its wizards can make all the money they need out of lead or something.

And "Death Eaters" is rather a stupid name, but I suppose coming up with the Voldemort-Riddle anagram and the name "Voldemort" (= "Theft-of-Death" in French) expended all her energy.

2) Obviously since Harry = Voldemort (two sides of the same person?) it works that way. And probably many wizards have ordinary jobs that allow them to earn the ordinary pounds and shillings and whatnot.

:rolleyes:

It's fiction, for goodness's sake!

Christians are against everything that is new and out of the box. Every story has to be about Jesus in their eyes. That is why me no like the Catholic Church! (no offense to any Catholics; I am insulting the people not the religion :D )

O and by the way

LOTR > Harry Potter x 1,000,000

LOTR ROX UR SOX!!!!!!!11111

LOTR IS MORE 1337 THAN j00

But really Lord of the Rings is better than Harry PotterIt is in some ways, but how do you keep Isildur and Iselgard apart? And how do you remember which one is the Vaiar and which one is the Malar (or whatever it is)? And why does Aragorn have about 20000 different names? :confused:

Harry Potter blows. Lord of the Rings is the way to go.

Uh... No.
Harry Potter is way better because I say so and LOTR is crappy and does not make sense to my tiny imature brain that does not make sense of everything BUT Harry Potter, therefore HP is better than LOTR....

i don't understand what i just wrote :D

Its quite obvious Harry Potter is a rip off of History unlike LOTR which has nothing to do with anything...

Middle Earth is real i live here dammit!!!1!!

Anglo Saxons Huzzah!
Yay for Tolkien and his studies!

Well I'm Christian and I find nothing wrong with HP... not all my Christian friends agree with me though so have an unspoken agreement not to talk about it :rolleyes:

I don't think this was supposed to be Jesus vs Harry Potter, but Jesus is God, he can do anything he wants.

But there is nothing wrong with reading Harry Potter. Dungeons and Dragons is the bad stuff. The place that is made is right next to a Satanist church, can I've heard they go in their and base their spells on actual Satanist spells.

Hehehe. Satanists are funny.