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Dick Santorum makes an ass of himself again.

Drunk commies deleted
15-07-2005, 20:14
According to Senator Dick Santorum of Pennsylvania the child sex abuse scandal that rocked the Boston Massachusetts archdioces was brought about by Boston's liberal culture.

Yep, instead of blaming the kidfuckers for raping kids he's decided to blame the liberals.

www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke/
New Sans
15-07-2005, 20:18
According to Senator Dick Santorum of Pennsylvania the child sex abuse scandal that rocked the Boston Massachusetts archdioces was brought about by Boston's liberal culture.

Yep, instead of blaming the kidfuckers for raping kids he's decided to blame the liberals.

www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke/

Is it me or does this thead title feel like deja vu.....

Anyway methinks he should try and remove his foot from his mouth.
Vetalia
15-07-2005, 20:19
He seems to forget this was going on for hundreds of years, maybe even thousands within the Church. Doesn't rational thought say: This system of shuttling priests around was so widespread and so secretive it must have taken more than a few years to complete.

It can take up to 16 years to become a priest, so some of these pedophiles entered the seminary in the 1930's... well before the Sexual Liberation movement.

He also forgets Boston is one of the oldest diocese in America...hmmm,I guess they had the most time to develop the system?

Cheap politics, too. He's trying to create the impression in American voters that:

Homosexuals=Pedophiles
Dobbsworld
15-07-2005, 20:24
Niiiiice.

He's a real class act, that Mr. Whatsisname. What was that someone said earlier about the nefariousness of attempting to score political points and winning popularity through exploiting children and tragedy? Seems applicable here.
New Fuglies
15-07-2005, 20:24
According to Senator Dick Santorum of Pennsylvania the child sex abuse scandal that rocked the Boston Massachusetts archdioces was brought about by Boston's liberal culture.

Yep, instead of blaming the kidfuckers for raping kids he's decided to blame the liberals.

www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke/

It's been known for some time that Santorum is a synonym for ass.
Vetalia
15-07-2005, 20:26
He's a real class act, that Mr. Whatsisname. What was that someone said earlier about the nefariousness of attempting to score political points and winning popularity through exploiting children and tragedy? Seems applicable here.


No, he's a Republican. If you disagree with their political abuse of tragedies, you're un-American; they're commanded by God, after all.
Dobbsworld
15-07-2005, 20:27
It's been known for some time that Santorum is a synonym for ass.

I thought his name was synonymous with anal leakage - ?

Well, six of one, half a dozen of another I suppose.
Dobbsworld
15-07-2005, 20:29
No, he's a Republican. If you disagree with their political abuse of tragedies, you're un-American; they're commanded by God, after all.

Sometimes it feels like they've commandeered God. For an extended joyride. Through everybody's front yards.
Eris Illuminated
15-07-2005, 20:34
I thought his name was synonymous with anal leakage - ?


To be specific it's the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that sometimes results from anal sex . . .
Sinuhue
15-07-2005, 20:44
You managed to say Dick, ass AND santorum in one sentence...nice!!

Yes....liberals are the root of all pedophilia :rolleyes:
New Genoa
15-07-2005, 20:52
You managed to say Dick, ass AND santorum in one sentence...nice!!

Yes....liberals are the root of all pedophilia :rolleyes:

I agree 100%
Baranxtu
15-07-2005, 21:20
Ew, there's Santorum in this forum! Get the bleach, and maybe we can remove 'im!

...

I mean, c'mon, what else is there to say?
Gymoor II The Return
15-07-2005, 21:21
Isn't it sad that in the "War On Terror," the people Republicans have been most effective at fighting have been liberals? They've changed the very word to mean something bad. Anything bad that happens is a liberal's fault, because conservatives somehow manage to always be an oppressed minority.

Even though conservatives own a huge percentage of "the media," the liberal media is against them. the "internets" (thank you W,) are filled with liberal propaganda. The government (controlled on all sides by Republicans,) continues to hide Clinton's "treason" while constantly laying siege to George W. Bush. John Kerry, by himself, deprived the soldiers of their armor. Liberals are responsible for the deficit. Liberals are responsible for crime. Liberals are responsible for the sluggish economy. Liberals (not a serpent, as was previously thought,) are responsible for Adam and Eve getting the boot from Eden.

It is really discouraging to see such a level of mental entrenchement. It scares me because with unblinking and unthinking support like this, a political party is capable of doing just about anything.
Zincite
15-07-2005, 21:22
It's been known for some time that Santorum is a synonym for ass.

Actually, it's a term for the mixture of lubricant and fecal matter that is often the product of anal sex.
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 21:26
When I saw this story a couple of days ago, I remembered the child abuse scandal in the Catholic Church in south Louisiana when I was a kid--almost thirty years ago. Now south Louisiana--New Orleans notwithstanding--ain't exactly the most liberal place in the union, and I'm pretty sure Louisiana wasn't the only state dealing with the problem. So Santorum is, at the very least, ignorant of history, but that's not exactly a surprise.
Rakenshi
15-07-2005, 21:42
This is getting retarded.. Their just starting to blame liberals for anything. I bet their gonna start blaming terrorist attacks on liberals too
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 21:44
This is getting retarded.. Their just starting to blame liberals for anything. I bet their gonna start blaming terrorist attacks on liberals too
Gonna start? What planet have you been living on for the last five years? They've been doing it for quite some time already.
Gymoor II The Return
15-07-2005, 21:49
It's not the terrorists who need therapy, it's the extremist conservstives. :headbang:
Myrmidonisia
15-07-2005, 22:01
According to Senator Dick Santorum of Pennsylvania the child sex abuse scandal that rocked the Boston Massachusetts archdioces was brought about by Boston's liberal culture.

Yep, instead of blaming the kidfuckers for raping kids he's decided to blame the liberals.

www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/07/13/santorum_resolute_on_boston_rebuke/
It may have been a cheap shot at Boston, but Teddy Kennedy is hardly one to comment on the Bay State's moral rectitude.

Here's the Washington Post account of the Democrats' response:

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) led a phalanx of Massachusetts politicians yesterday in demanding that the third-ranking Republican in the Senate, Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, apologize for blaming the Catholic Church's sex abuse scandal on "liberalism" in Boston.

In an indignant, unusually personal speech on the Senate floor, Kennedy said that "Boston-bashing might be in vogue with some Republicans, but Rick Santorum's statements are beyond the pale."

Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.
Drunk commies deleted
15-07-2005, 22:04
It's not the terrorists who need therapy, it's the extremist conservstives. :headbang:
Personally I think that terrorists could benefit from high-velocity lead therapy.
Dobbsworld
15-07-2005, 22:10
Gonna start? What planet have you been living on for the last five years? They've been doing it for quite some time already.

Naw, it'll be more like down the road they'll be blaming liberals for not adequately making clear the ramifications of continuing to do nothing about - oh, anything really - how about Global Warming, maybe?

Everyone'll be roasting like pigs on spits and all we'll be hearing is some indignant lout complaining about the left having done a piss-poor job of persuading Americans as to the severity of the problem they thought they were secure in pointedly ignoring all these years.

Something like that. That, or robot attacks. Take your pick.
Gymoor II The Return
15-07-2005, 22:16
Naw, it'll be more like down the road they'll be blaming liberals for not adequately making clear the ramifications of continuing to do nothing about - oh, anything really - how about Global Warming, maybe?

Everyone'll be roasting like pigs on spits and all we'll be hearing is some indignant lout complaining about the left having done a piss-poor job of persuading Americans as to the severity of the problem they thought they were secure in pointedly ignoring all these years.

Something like that. That, or robot attacks. Take your pick.

I, for one, welcome our Robot overlords.
Eutrusca
15-07-2005, 22:18
It's been known for some time that Santorum is a synonym for ass.
Almost in the same league as Kennedy!
Piperia
15-07-2005, 22:19
He’s trying to make a splash before he goes out. He’s up against Bob Casey, Jr. in 2006. Casey is a pro-life Democrat, and according to Wikipeida, he’s got a 14-point lead over Santorum already.
[NS]Ihatevacations
15-07-2005, 22:46
Now we can rightly call all neocons "dicks"
Gymoor II The Return
15-07-2005, 22:49
Almost in the same league as Kennedy!

Relevance, your honor?
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 23:04
It may have been a cheap shot at Boston, but Teddy Kennedy is hardly one to comment on the Bay State's moral rectitude.

Here's the Washington Post account of the Democrats' response:


Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.
Can't you, just once, admit that a member of your party is a douchebag without resorting to the "but that guy is just as bad" third grader bullshit?
[NS]Ihatevacations
15-07-2005, 23:05
Relevance, your honor?
you can't have a thread without some random person villifying one liberal or another. It could be a damn thread about CANDY, SOME ONE would villify a liberal during a discussion about sour balls
Gymoor II The Return
15-07-2005, 23:07
Ihatevacations']you can't have a thread without some random person villifying one liberal or another. It could be a damn thread about CANDY, SOME ONE would villify a liberal during a discussion about sour balls

Isn't it funny that the conservatives are the ones who accuse liberals of moral relativism?
Deleuze
15-07-2005, 23:30
It may have been a cheap shot at Boston, but Teddy Kennedy is hardly one to comment on the Bay State's moral rectitude.

Here's the Washington Post account of the Democrats' response:


Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.
So, Kennedy does one bad thing, and he can't say that someone else did something wrong? The dogmatic, puppy-dog like party line toeing is a bit ridiculous. Can't you at least do better than a mild disavowal?
Sdaeriji
15-07-2005, 23:35
Ah yes, let's make fun of Massachusetts for having the intenstinal fortitude to drag ourselves out of the Dark Ages.

Dick Santorum can lick my liberal Roman Catholic Bostonian ass.
Sdaeriji
15-07-2005, 23:36
It may have been a cheap shot at Boston, but Teddy Kennedy is hardly one to comment on the Bay State's moral rectitude.

Here's the Washington Post account of the Democrats' response:


Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment.

You know, you'd think with the amount of times you've had your ass thoroughly handed to you by Cat-Tribe over the whole Chappaquiddick thing, you'd learn to shut your mouth about it.
Cannot think of a name
15-07-2005, 23:39
Can't you, just once, admit that a member of your party is a douchebag without resorting to the "but that guy is just as bad" third grader bullshit?
The new standard. We're not leaders anymore, we're followers holding not to the 'being the best we can' but rather 'not being as bad as that guy.' You can excuse anything these days by finding someone who did worse. Sickening.
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 23:48
The new standard. We're not leaders anymore, we're followers holding not to the 'being the best we can' but rather 'not being as bad as that guy.' You can excuse anything these days by finding someone who did worse. Sickening.
And since Hitler and Stalin set the gold standard for fucked-uppedness, people can pretty much get away with anything these days, I guess.
Economic Associates
16-07-2005, 00:12
Someone needs to take a page out of Preston Brooks book and beat some sense into Santorum.
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 00:22
He’s trying to make a splash before he goes out. He’s up against Bob Casey, Jr. in 2006. Casey is a pro-life Democrat, and according to Wikipeida, he’s got a 14-point lead over Santorum already.

HAHA!! Pro life my foot. And if the bases the BRACK want to close stay open, Rick gets re-elected as does Governor Rendell. The bases close and both Rendell and Santorum are gone. Interesting isnt it? And according to info I've received, Casey isn't pro-life and has gone on record indicating the opposite. Also, it looks like that the local base here will more than likely stay open so look for 6 more years of having Rick in office :)
Myrmidonisia
16-07-2005, 00:25
Can't you, just once, admit that a member of your party is a douchebag without resorting to the "but that guy is just as bad" third grader bullshit?
My only connection with the Republican party is to vote for John Linder every two years. I just hate seeing a pat-ourselves-on-the-back party get out of hand. When the Democrats have to drag up a obscure opinion piece that was written three years ago, it's just plain stupid. I hate stupidity.

My problem is with the sanctimonious attitude that Teddy takes. He doesn't have a single right to it, he should be thanking Joe Sr. and the rest of the Kennedy clan every day that he hasn't ever had to bear the responsibility for that drunken night at Chappaquiddick.


You know, you'd think with the amount of times you've had your ass thoroughly handed to you by Cat-Tribe over the whole Chappaquiddick thing, you'd learn to shut your mouth about it.

He's far better at arguing than I am, but it doesn't change the substance of what happened. Teddy let a girl drown while he was drunkenly pondering his political future. Teddy's family had big connections in Massachusetts and he never had to assume any responsibility for it. I'll never win a one-on-one argument with him, but that doesn't bring Kopechne back to life. Someone was responsible for her death and I don't think it was suicide.

But this is about Santorum. Sure he screwed up. But what did he say that was so offensive?


It is startling that those in the media and academia appear most disturbed by this aberrant behavior, since they have zealously promoted moral relativism by sanctioning "private" moral matters such as alternative lifestyles. Priests, like all of us, are affected by culture. When the culture is sick, every element in it becomes infected. While it is no excuse for this scandal, it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the storm.


Looks to me like Bill Clinton ought to be the one complaining about being slurred. After all, he only lied about sex.

Remember, Santorum wrote this three years ago. What's he say currently about the comments?

A spokesman for Santorum, Robert Traynham, said yesterday that "It's unfortunate that the senior senator from Massachusetts, in consort with the extreme left, has chosen to take three-year-old comments out of context and politicize them on the Senate floor."

Asked to explain the proper context for Santorum's comments, Traynham said that "what the senator was talking about was the whole sexual revolution in the 1960s and '70s, and how that unfortunately created a culture where these unfortunate sex abuse scandals occurred."

I've had about all of me I can stand, so cheers!
Swimmingpool
16-07-2005, 01:16
Yes, because the Catholic Church is just such a liberal institution. :rolleyes:
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:21
Anyone know if Kerry and Kennedy have been ex-communicated yet?
Sdaeriji
16-07-2005, 01:22
Anyone know if Kerry and Kennedy have been ex-communicated yet?

You know they have not.
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:26
You know they have not.

Which is a shame because they have violated Catholic Church docterine and therefor, they should be excommunicated in accordance with the laws of the Catholic Church.

Alwell... that's life. I don't really care anyway.
Geecka
16-07-2005, 01:26
Also, it looks like that the local base here will more than likely stay open so look for 6 more years of having Rick in office :)

It sickens me that we elected him in the first place and horrifies me that we will probably re-elect him.
Sdaeriji
16-07-2005, 01:27
Which is a shame because they have violated Catholic Church docterine and therefor, they should be excommunicated in accordance with the laws of the Catholic Church.

Alwell... that's life. I don't really care anyway.

And yet the people whose opinions actually matter have decided not to excommunicate them. But you clearly know better.
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:28
It sickens me that we elected him in the first place and horrifies me that we will probably re-elect him.

LOL!

I'm glad we did elect him and I hope we do re-elect him. :D
Kreitzmoorland
16-07-2005, 01:29
Wait...isn't it "Rick" or has his first name been changed to match his last?


*goes to read some Savage Love*
Gymoor II The Return
16-07-2005, 01:32
Anyone know if Kerry and Kennedy have been ex-communicated yet?

They're right after Bush*

*PJ II was officially opposed to the Iraq War, remember?
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:34
They're right after Bush*

*PJ II was officially opposed to the Iraq War, remember?

And opposed to Desert Storm and Desert Shield too, remember?

And I didn't know Bush was Catholic.
Ecopoeia
16-07-2005, 01:34
Heh. Google 'santorum' and hit 'I'm feeling lucky' - the result has little to do with the senator. Well, unless there's something he's hiding...

Sorry. Someone probably already mentioned this, but I feel the awful gobshite needs all the kicking we can muster.
Swimmingpool
16-07-2005, 01:35
Which is a shame because they have violated Catholic Church docterine and therefor, they should be excommunicated in accordance with the laws of the Catholic Church.
Surely then Republicans, some of whom surely must be Catholic, are due an excommunication for supporting the Iraq War?
Gymoor II The Return
16-07-2005, 01:37
And opposed to Desert Storm and Desert Shield too, remember?

And I didn't know Bush was Catholic.

Okay, so Catholic Church = good when condemning Democrats. Catholic Church = bad when condemning Republicans.

I'm perfectly aware Bush isn't a Catholic. My response was merely a witty barb at your expense. Thank you for playing.
Myrmidonisia
16-07-2005, 01:38
Heh. Google 'santorum' and hit 'I'm feeling lucky' - the result has little to do with the senator. Well, unless there's something he's hiding...

Sorry. Someone probably already mentioned this, but I feel the awful gobshite needs all the kicking we can muster.
This is more fun
Results 1 - 10 of about 173,000 for santorum is gay.

I tried "santorum is gay" but only got four hits.
Mentholyptus
16-07-2005, 01:38
And since Hitler and Stalin set the gold standard for fucked-uppedness, people can pretty much get away with anything these days, I guess.

Interestingly enough, they have become popular subjects of the "We're not as bad as _______" defense. Standard defense for our human-rights violations at Guantanamo and elsewhere has become "Gulag? That's ridiculous! We're not nearly as bad as the gulags!" (or "At least we aren't beheading our prisoners like the insurgents are. They should be grateful that all we're doing is inflicting psychological trauma, punishing physical stress, and occassionally shipping them off to torture-friendly nations!")
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:38
Surely then Republicans, some of whom surely must be Catholic, are due an excommunication for supporting the Iraq War?

Is there something specifically in the Laws of the Catholic Church against supporting a war?
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:41
Okay, so Catholic Church = good when condemning Democrats. Catholic Church = bad when condemning Republicans.

Dude, I never said that. Thanks for putting things down that I've never said.
Sdaeriji
16-07-2005, 01:41
Is there something specifically in the Laws of the Catholic Church against supporting a war?

Going against the official position of the Holy See? Yeah. There is.
Corneliu
16-07-2005, 01:43
Going against the official position of the Holy See? Yeah. There is.

Did JP II issue an edict calling for all catholics to vote against the war. I've followed the news leading up to it and all I heard was that he didn't support it but said nothing, repeat the word nothing, regarding catholics in power to be against this.
Maineiacs
16-07-2005, 01:48
And I didn't know Bush was Catholic.

Jeb is.
Swimmingpool
16-07-2005, 01:52
Is there something specifically in the Laws of the Catholic Church against supporting a war?
uh-oh! Incitement to theological discussion alert!

*calls Neo Rogolia*

Yes, the Catholic Church is usually against wars and violence in general. I imagine that it has something to do with the Bible or their laws.

Did JP II issue an edict calling for all catholics to vote against the war. I've followed the news leading up to it and all I heard was that he didn't support it but said nothing, repeat the word nothing, regarding catholics in power to be against this.
Nor did JPII issue an edict proclaiming excommunication for pro-choice Catholic politicians. That was a few American bishops.
Axsom
16-07-2005, 01:57
As a matter of fact according to the catholic catechism it is ok to disagree with the holy see about isssues such as "just war" or capital punishment. The catechism states that both are the responsability of the legitament gov authority. I also believe this was supposed to be about the pedophile scandel.
Axsom
16-07-2005, 02:01
Those Few american Bishops have the right to deny communion to pro abort without asking for permission from the pope. You should also look at what Pope Benedict has stated about public figures who support abortion.
Guerraheim
16-07-2005, 04:13
Even though conservatives own a huge percentage of "the media," the liberal media is against them. the "internets" (thank you W,) are filled with liberal propaganda. The government (controlled on all sides by Republicans,) continues to hide Clinton's "treason" while constantly laying siege to George W. Bush. John Kerry, by himself, deprived the soldiers of their armor. Liberals are responsible for the deficit. Liberals are responsible for crime. Liberals are responsible for the sluggish economy. Liberals (not a serpent, as was previously thought,) are responsible for Adam and Eve getting the boot from Eden.

This is just foolishness. It was indeed the serpent who tempted Eve. The serpent, "the cleverest of all the animals in the garden." Don't you see? The serpent was a liberal. The very first act of evil on Earth, and every one since, has been the result of listening to liberal intellectuals.
Gymoor II The Return
16-07-2005, 06:47
This is just foolishness. It was indeed the serpent who tempted Eve. The serpent, "the cleverest of all the animals in the garden." Don't you see? The serpent was a liberal. The very first act of evil on Earth, and every one since, has been the result of listening to liberal intellectuals.

I'm pretty sure the serpent was a political advisor. :D