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Told you so ... backlash against Terrorists begins.

Eutrusca
15-07-2005, 19:44
COMMENTARY: In what could be the beginning of the end to the so-called "insurgency" in Iraq, most Iraqis are outraged over the deliberate targeting of children. As the history of "insurgencies" has taught us, when a putative insugency loses a significant portion of their support among the population, they are almost always in serious trouble.


Populace shocked by massacre of 18 local children


July 15, 2005
From combined dispatches

BAGHDAD -- Massive mourning tents were raised yesterday on a street still stained with the blood of 18 Iraqi children who died Wednesday in an attack so appalling that even Iraq's most notorious terror group denounced it.
Human remains were still visible on the street as mourning relatives -- some despondent, others in tears -- seemed deaf to words of comfort their friends offered.
"What did these children do, other than scamper to get a ball or a bar of chocolate?" asked 22-year-old taxi driver Firas Hadi, whose 10-year-old brother, Hamza, was nearly split in half by a suicide car bomb the previous day.
"Is that a crime that deserves death?" he asked, before bursting into tears.
The attack, which came as U.S. soldiers handed candy and toys to a crowd of children, killed at least 27 persons and provoked outrage from Iraqis of all political persuasions.
Al Qaeda in Iraq, the terror group led by Abu Musab Zarqawi that has taken responsibility for a wave of grisly beheadings and other horrors, quickly dissociated itself from the atrocity.
"We in al Qaeda in Iraq announce that we have no link whatsoever to the operation in New Baghdad, which took place on Wednesday," it said on the Internet.
Zarqawi, "who supervises personally all operations from planning to execution, is very keen on making sure that ordinary people are not targeted," it added without accounting for the thousands of Iraqis who have died in the terrorists' attacks.
The statement suggests that the group is aware of the backlash against the Sunni-led insurgency that the killing of so many children could generate -- even among Iraqis who oppose the presence of U.S.-led forces.
"Such action has nothing to do with religion," said Inaam Hassan, 38, of the attack. "This tarnishes the image of the true resistance. I demand that the terrorists be executed in public to avenge the mothers who have lost their children."

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Zjit
15-07-2005, 19:55
See, I always thought that was the problem with terrorism.. not morally, mind you, but tactically. They try to destabilize a government etc. by killing people unexpectedly and sowing, as the name indicates, terror. Now, maybe if you're running up casualties and costs for the occupying military, police, and the like you're going to encourage them to call it quits and go home. When you target civilians and children, however, they can't call it quits and go home: they are home. Now the kind of stress the insurgents, terrorists, whatever are encouraging creates the same response as any other type of major stress: fight or flight. Now, with violence like this, flight might seem like the bright idea.. but as I said, there's nowhere to run because you're already home: even that's not safe. Now you're backed into a corner, here's where the fight response comes in... long story short, you keep trying to scare people for long enough they're going to stop being really scared and start being really pissed.
Luporum
15-07-2005, 20:02
It's refreshing to see that our enemy, Zarqawi, has a thread of humanity in him.
Texpunditistan
15-07-2005, 20:06
It's refreshing to see that our enemy, Zarqawi, has a thread of humanity in him.
Yeah...right. That's got to be the biggest CYA press release ever.

*imagines Zarquawi in a Nixon pose hollering "I'm not a crook!"*
Eutrusca
15-07-2005, 20:06
It's refreshing to see that our enemy, Zarqawi, has a thread of humanity in him.
Perhaps he does, but it's virtually invisible and only used when fear of loss of base strikes.
Eutrusca
15-07-2005, 20:07
... long story short, you keep trying to scare people for long enough they're going to stop being really scared and start being really pissed.
Exactly.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-07-2005, 20:12
Maybe they havent yet heard the pathetic blather in here that US forces are attracting children to use as a human shield. Then it will be our fault again.
Zjit
15-07-2005, 20:26
Exactly.
Better approach: kill the soldiers in advance, steal some candy, then give it to the kids themselves. Shit like this is about PR: Need to get the populace behind you.
Don't take this to be an insurgency endorsement, but honestly, stupid plans make my head hurt. This is on par with setting off a few bombs and expecting it to cow the British... I mean, come on, London is a city that survived the Blitz, and this is the best these people can think of? :headbang:
Carnivorous Lickers
15-07-2005, 20:29
... I mean, come on, London is a city that survived the Blitz, and this is the best these people can think of? :headbang:


On a side note- Have they started catching the fuckers that did that, or have they just been identifying them? The news isnt clear.
Eutrusca
15-07-2005, 20:32
Better approach: kill the soldiers in advance, steal some candy, then give it to the kids themselves. Shit like this is about PR: Need to get the populace behind you.
Don't take this to be an insurgency endorsement, but honestly, stupid plans make my head hurt. This is on par with setting off a few bombs and expecting it to cow the British... I mean, come on, London is a city that survived the Blitz, and this is the best these people can think of? :headbang:
I hate to be the one to spoil all your childhood illusions, but suicide bombers aren't exactly noted for their intellect, or hadn't you noticed? ;)
Taldaan
15-07-2005, 20:33
On a side note- Have they started catching the fuckers that did that, or have they just been identifying them? The news isnt clear.

They now think that most if not all of the bombers died in the attack. I'm not sure if they found any evidence yet.
Achtung 45
15-07-2005, 20:33
Exactly.
And I can't wait for that day people in America wake up and smell the lies they've been fed and stop being paranoid and get really pissed instead. I hope you're right Eutrusca! :D
Luporum
15-07-2005, 20:35
Better approach: kill the soldiers in advance

There's the major flaw in that plan, terrorists can't kill soldiers by convential means. Hence, they resort to killing civilians and sucker punching soldiers when they can.
Frangland
15-07-2005, 20:40
here's a little ditty to commemorate:

I'm takin' my shotgunnn on down to Baghdad
To kiiiick some terrorist ass
Got me a plane, and a boat for the river
I don't know how long my ammo will last

But I'm takin' my shotgun on down to Baghdad
Gonna kill me some terrorist scum
The ones who blow up little children
Target practice should be fun.

So come on with me, down to Baghdad
It's terrorist season there
Hunted by the US citizens' army
Man they haven't got a prayer.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-07-2005, 20:42
They now think that most if not all of the bombers died in the attack. I'm not sure if they found any evidence yet.


I hope thats the case-somehow that seems better than having the actual culprits still on the loose.
Thanks.
Markreich
15-07-2005, 23:09
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=431775

Been there, done that. :)