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Apparently, a single swearword slipped past the censors during a televised music concert:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4685415.stm

The Parents' Television Council is demanding fines. :rolleyes:

In completely unrelated news (already posted in another thread), a game company could be investigated by the US government after someone released a mod that featured an unlockable cut scene of clothed sex.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4671429.stm

A guy on another forum I use said it best:

Haha, I have this mod. I got it bundled with another one that opens the entire map at the start. :\

I've never used it though.. you can only do it after a "date with your girlfriend" and well.. I always blow the chicks head off before we even get started...

Yeah, apparently use of weapons provided is OK. Getting the characters to fumble isn't. :rolleyes:

Poll on its way, are American censors losing the plot?

You know, I'd agree with you but I'm too racist against you and your kind to say anything nice.

I saw the clip of the sex scene. The male character is clothed, the female character isn't. It's really stupid though.

I think this thread also combines two themes of other threads...

You know, I'd agree with you but I'm too racist against you and your kind to say anything nice.
The feeling is mutual. :fluffle:

There's to much censorship. All the parents are scared to hell that there kids will hear a single fucking curse word, or see a sex scene or some chick scantily clothed. It's a load of bullshit I tell you. The parents should prevent their kids from watching shows the don't want them to and playing games they don't want them to it's NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S PROBLEM!

I voted on the poll but I didn't really understand the options. In my opinion, there is way way way (that's 3 ways) too much censorship in America, but I guess it's better than most countries. We just have to work to improve it.

A lot of US parents are too damn whiny. Wow, a single swear word was uncensored. It's not like kids are going to be able to go through their entire lives without hearing certain words. You can't shelter them forever. Honestly now, a single swear word is no big deal.

Something I find interesting is that there are parents who don't want their kids to hear "fuck" or "shit" on television, yet they use those words in front of their children.

I voted "This is absurd. What is this, a theocracy?", though I would've prefered a simple "there is too much censorship" option.

The best "screwup" I ever saw on TV was on Letterman.

He had Joan Collins and he brought up the fact she did a full frontal for some movie she did when she was much younger.

They went to letterbox out the unmentionables and they ended up blocking out her stomach and her knees. :D

They showed the shot many times.

I dont think it is censorship that is the problem. People are just too lazy to deal with their own problems and want someone to do it for them. Its easier to sue someone for giving their kid a crappy game like the one mentioned than to pay attention to their children. There is also the fact, that the people who want to put more restrictions on these games, are only adding to the hype and giving them free publicity... what a great way to solve a problem.

I dont think it is censorship that is the problem. People are just too lazy to deal with their own problems and want someone to do it for them. Its easier to sue someone for giving their kid a crappy game like the one mentioned than to pay attention to their children. There is also the fact, that the people who want to put more restrictions on these games, are only adding to the hype and giving them free publicity... what a great way to solve a problem.

I agree.

I think that parents have the right to control what their children watch and listen to. Therefore ratings systems and censorship of things in violation of that rating are necessary to preserve that right. To a certain degree I do not think that adults should even see or hear the smut that our society creates because by watching and listening to such things the morality of those who are exposed decreases due to their experience of it and desensitization to negative ideas and immoral actions.

I agree.
Censorship is for people who can't process problems themselfes. Who cares if someone is naked? We were born naked. Who cares if someone uses a 'swear-word'? It was made up by us, so what makes 'shit' so much worse than 'poo'. If you should censor something for altering the minds of young ones, then they shouldn't be able to go outside, just sit at home with their parent-approved websites, playing games.
I rest my case.
-Xander

If you don't want to watch it, turn it off. The TV isn't a babysitter you can plunk the kids in front of and leave. It's your duty as a parent to monitor the content of their television, not the government. That's why we have freedom of choice, to watch what we want without the government deciding what is best for us.

That being said, I think shows should clearly state the contents of their programming, and face fines only when it veers from what they had previously stated (primarily live tv). Fining because you're mad about the content is censorship, plain and simple. It sets a precedent; what happens when Bill Maher or Al Franken are fined for criticizing or jesting at the president or Republicans or the country? From there, it's all downhill/

That being said, I think shows should clearly state the contents of their programming, and face fines only when it veers from what they had previously stated (primarily live tv).

That sounds agreeable. It does not promote censorship(something that many people think is important), it also allows parents to have the control that they want over the lives of their children.

That sounds agreeable. It does not promote censorship(something that many people think is important), it also allows parents to have the control that they want over the lives of their children.

That's the idea; it places responsibility solely on the individual rather than the government or the company, and forces parents to actually monitor their childrens' TV watching. Companies would regulate themselves based upon viewer demand, and still be free to show what they want. It's win-win really.

Edit: Hey, this is my 2,000th post. Here's to 2,000 more! :cool:

Apparently, a single swearword slipped past the censors during a televised music concert.

The Parents' Television Council is demanding fines. :rolleyes:

In completely unrelated news (already posted in another thread), a game company could be investigated by the US government after someone released a mod that featured an unlockable cut scene of clothed sex.

Yeah, apparently use of weapons provided is OK. Getting the characters to fumble isn't. :rolleyes:

Poll on its way, are American censors losing the plot?
You make me almost glad that I have more serious things about which to be concerned.

You make me almost glad that I have more serious things about which to be concerned.
If you ignore the little things, they grow. They multiply. And then -

:eek:

:p

If you ignore the little things, they grow. They multiply. And then -

:eek:

:p

I don't think there's going to be less swear words on TV anytime soon, if that's what you're worried about.

If I were a parent, and Im watching TV with my kids, and a swear word, or a nudie scene comes on..all I have to do is change the channel.

Furthermore..if I make a big reaction to it...that will induce more anxiety in the kids than actually hearing a word like that.

Chances are, that kid has already heard Mommy or Daddy say the very word.

If you make a big deal out of it....it becomes a big deal.

These guys are getting on my nevers, this was on another thread. If you don't like it, theres a off switch and theres also a change channel button-use it. If you just put your kid in front of the TV then he may see somthing that isn't suitable, if you don't monitor what he's watching it's your fault-not the TV's fault.

Censorship is a tool of lazy people.

wat age group are we talkin about.12 year olds are already having sex so i dont think they'll be shocked. and little ones wont understand the cuss words the sex scenes .they think mommy and daddy r wrestling :fluffle: .if the parents make a big deal about it then the little one percieves it as bad. its the parents fault. dont they own a remote they just need to change it.

wat age group are we talkin about.12 year olds are already having sex so i dont think they'll be shocked. and little ones wont understand the cuss words the sex scenes .they think mommy and daddy r wrestling :fluffle: .if the parents make a big deal about it then the little one percieves it as bad. its the parents fault. dont they own a remote they just need to change it.
Huh? 12 year olds having sex?!?!?!?! Not likly for 1 thing the boy would only have just reached puberty. That thing about kids watching mum and dad having sex is sick.

The last point is valid.

Huh? 12 year olds having sex?!?!?!?! Not likly for 1 thing the boy would only have just reached puberty. That thing about kids watching mum and dad having sex is sick.

I don't know about you, but I was a masturbating wreck by the time I was age 9 or 10. And I somehow managed to catch my parents in flagrante delicto on more than one occasion. Hey it's weird and all, but y'know, apart from being your parents, they're lovers, too.

I have some dim recollection about Mom and Dad 'wrestling' when I was a wee lil' Dobbs. It never messed me up inside my head. I wonder what I'd recall if they'd've feaked out instead?

If you ignore the little things, they grow. They multiply. And then -

:eek:

:p
Not true! I didn't ingore my kids, but I already have seven grandchildren! Whut's up wid DAT, eh? :D

That thing about kids watching mum and dad having sex is sick.
I've never understood why so many kids like to pretend their parents, or ( God forbid! ) their grandparents have sex. NEWS FLASH: You were NOT the product of an immaculate conception! :p

yeah I mean honestly I know of people who lost their virginity at 12/13 and they never saw sex before. Who says human beings don't have instincts? lol as for the cursing thing I agree: It's only a big deal if parents make it one which they are, so they're kids are screwed. I mean let it go people tv isn't perfect censors slip up...it happens jeez

i had a friend back in college who, iirc, wanted to teach his kids how to swear _properly_. and with style.

The World Does not NEED more Censorship what it needs is for more parents to get there heads out of there asses and pay attention to what they are letting their kids watch and play that is why there are rating systems in place If some parent buys GTA:Sanandras or any game like it for there 9 year old they have no right to complane about it , I own it and the last thing i would do is play it in front of my kids. :sniper:

maybe if some parents did not really on TV and comp. games to act as a substitute for proper parenting, they would not have to worry about censorship.

Yeah, apparently use of weapons provided is OK. Getting the characters to fumble isn't.


Well, yeah. Violence doesn't matter when there's sex to worry about.

And why complain about the game? You're supposed to be 17 or older to buy it anyway. It would be easier for a 9 year old to find worse things on the internet than get a copy of that game.

Huh? 12 year olds having sex?!?!?!?! Not likly for 1 thing the boy would only have just reached puberty. That thing about kids watching mum and dad having sex is sick.

The last point is valid.
I think (s)he meant the kid walked in on the parents having sex, like Eric did on That 70's Show. Also in CAPP last year I heard a stat that said 15% of girls under 13 have had sex. Schools also start teaching sex ed at age 10-13, yet if a 17 year old sees the same thing in a video game it is somehow different, but more importantly, considered bad.

As for swearing, the only way you can keep your kid from hearing it is to keep them in a room watching an endless loop of the teletubbies. At school kids hear all kinds of swearwords, even new ones that parents do not know about (but would surely censor if they knew what they meant). Also your kid is bound to see another person naked (flashing, pantsing, etc.) and learn ALOT about drugs. So if you want your kid to keep his/her virgin ears and virgin eyes, sending them to school is out of the question. Schools also enforce rules that prohibit swearing and nudity. If that is what happens in a cencered area, going outside a person will hear the same things. Also the parent cannot be around the kid. A person usually hears their first swearword from their parents. The teletubbies have also been critized for its lack of censorship. One of them is supposed to be a homosexual (which is bad why?) and the same one also did some gaybashing (which is BAD). Seems kinda pointless, eh? Especially when there are some things out there which could kill the kid.