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"BANGKOK, Thailand (Reuters) -- Thailand's cabinet passed emergency laws on Friday giving Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra the power to tap phones, censor newspapers and detain suspects without charge to tackle rising violence in the Muslim far south."

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/07/14/thailand.south.reut/index.html

Is there any doubt Muslim fundamentalists want world domintation. I think not.

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Is there any doubt Muslim fundamentalists want world domintation. I think not.
You think illogically. This is a group of separatists as the article states a few times. They used to have their own government and the people in that area of Thailand don't even speak the same language as the rest of the country... Perhaps that makes separatism valid, perhaps not, but to suggest that separatists want to take over the country (or the world... whatever) rather than separate from it as their name indicates is pure idiocy. I suppose the Chechens want to take over Russia and the FLQ wanted to take over Canada too, right? :rolleyes:

It's an isolated cause, as has been said, the Muslims there want their southern region to go back to Malaysia, I think it is. Although they are receiving support from the more 'traditional' anti-West terrorist groups due to Thailand's ties with the West and probably to try and stir up some popular support. The cause has grown in popularity due to no-one quite knowing who the separatists are, prompting a heavy handed approach from the Thai Government causing casualties to legitimate protestors [Thai troops opened fire]. That said, the exremists among them are turning the issue into a Jihad & the count of Matyrs is rising.

It's an isolated cause

Look at the pattern.

No such thing was happening when the faithfuls were in minority in souther Thailand.

Now that they are, some demand seperation. Terrorism is just a tool for political objectives.

Isolated in the sense that it isn't a co-ordinated world takeover.

So democracy is dying in Thailand and you concentrate on the fact that Muslims are involved? I think you're missing the real point of the story.

The last sentence of the article posted by Celtlund:

"At least 10 people have been beheaded in recent killings some top officials say have been inspired by Iraqi insurgents. Officials say thousands of locally-born people, many of them Buddhists, have moved out."

There is a strong animosity in some Moslem communities to other religions. There have been hundreds of Christian churches burned, bombed, people murdered with little comment from Islamic governments or the world.

Competing religions get forced out by the use of violence.

Is there any doubt Muslim fundamentalists want world domintation. I think not.

Yeah, I guess Christian fundamentalists in Ireland want world domination as well.

I don't know if it's possible to win anymore... I wonder what the Roman centurion thought as he let the Barbarians through the gates, I'm not the first to wonder, but I wonder if he knew it was the beginning of the end...

Maybe civilization can rise and crush this threat, but do they have the will?

I don't know if it's possible to win anymore... I wonder what the Roman centurion thought as he let the Barbarians through the gates, I'm not the first to wonder, but I wonder if he knew it was the beginning of the end...

Maybe civilization can rise and crush this threat, but do they have the will?

Rise and crush the threat of sepratism? Crush the threat of people who don't share anything in common with their government wanting their own? Do you realize what we're talking about here, or are you sensationalizing?

Rise and crush the threat of sepratism? Crush the threat of people who don't share anything in common with their government wanting their own? Do you realize what we're talking about here, or are you sensationalizing?

Well, you see, since the separatist are Muslim, it immediately means they are evil.

Rise and crush the threat of sepratism? Crush the threat of people who don't share anything in common with their government wanting their own? Do you realize what we're talking about here, or are you sensationalizing?

I'm sorry, no, I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the entire world's problem, not any one country...

Well, you see, since the separatist are Muslim, it immediately means they are evil.

Indeed. But I felt the need to call BS on that. A passing fancy, I don't know what came over me.

If we want to talk about nasty situations in the east, how about the Nepalese Maoist rebels? Theres a truly lamentable situation that's only getting worse for everyone but the leaders of the rebels.

I'm sorry, no, I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the entire world's problem, not any one country...

Well, my question stands. We're talking about a problem with sepratists, who are in this case muslim.

Sepratist movements are very difficult to deal with, look at Georgia, Russia, Shri Lanka, Turkey etc. Nasty stuff all around. But its very different than some fight agaisnt a rival civilization, more like a group of unanswered questions about who rules what part of the land, and how best to manage dispariate peoples in a single nation.

And in certain circles the Thai PM is being watched carefully anyways.
He also happens to be the richest man in Thailand, he has a whole set of cronies he's more or less installing all over the policital and business world, and he's been pretty much the only meaningful contender for the last election.
Plus he's a mad advocate for physical punishments for all types of people.
Not to forget the business with the protests by Muslims down there a while ago. The police crushed them, and many dozens died in police custody...

A fiver says Celtlund never replies to this thread again.