NationStates Jolt Archive


United middle east- could it exist?

Green israel
15-07-2005, 11:53
Before some years I heard in history class something very interesting. I don't know how much is true or false, because the teacher was conspirator, but I decided it is the less important part. So, let's begin.
The story began in the end of the ww1. The Britain government makes three different agreements.
One is the agreements with the Jewish that known as the Balfour declaration. In this agreement the Britain promise to the Jews let them establishment country on the area of Israel, after it will conquered from the ottomans (the Turks).
Second threat is with the Arab tribes in saudia. The tribes agree to fight the ottoman with the British and get in exchange country mostly on the area of Syria, Lebanon and Jordan with little part from Israel.
the last threat make it much more complex while it sign with the French, in the spirit of the imperialistic period it sign in. the threat of the allies empires divided all the middle east to Britain control (Israel, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq) and French control on the rest.
Until now I think the facts are mostly correct. Now the ww1 was over and the sides saw how Britain fulfilled only the agreement of France, and take the area's rescuers.
In response, peaceful leaders of the Jewish and the Arabs meet secretly and write peace agreement. His main parts were mutual recognition of the other side right to free country, co-operation in the actions to convince Britain and France to pullout from the middle east, and plan to divide the middle east to some western democratic autonomies (one will be on the area of Israel and be mainly Jewish) with federal government that will care for the equal rights of the both nations.
From here it is grey section of the history. My teacher think that the Britain convince some radical Arabs to fight the Jews in permission to extra-right or country, because the want to keep their hand on the Middle Eastern rescuers. Other said that some religious radicals from both sides get information about the secret meetings, and tried to prevent it from happen. The result is the same: the first Arab revolt starts in 1920 and known too, as 1920's riots. In the riots have been murdered by the radicals Arabs some scores of Jewish people and some hundreds of moderate Arabs who were the peaceful part of the Arabian leadership and opposition to the religious leaders who supposed to lose much of their power while the secular democratic federation will established in the middle east. The agreement has been buried in the forgotten part of the history, and the Israeli-Arab war become nationalistic (oppose to the friendship and the economic co-operation that was before, and sometimes infringed by Arab gangs of robbers that attacked the both sides).

As I said in the beginning I am not interested about the true and false in the story. I am interested more in the other history we may have if the peace-agreement was become real, and the united Middle East was established.
Do you think it could be true? May it be like USA or the EU? And most important to me, may it create new super power, with the entire thing the Middle East could have without the wars?
Europastan
15-07-2005, 11:58
Re-unification of the Arab states is unlikely, simply because of powerful forces that would try to prevent it. I doubt any of the Arab royal families would be in favour, or the United States, as a united Arab world would be much stronger.
Green israel
15-07-2005, 12:10
Re-unification of the Arab states is unlikely, simply because of powerful forces that would try to prevent it. I doubt any of the Arab royal families would be in favour, or the United States, as a united Arab world would be much stronger.
well, that true, although I talked about united arab-jewish world that supposed to be established before 85 years. I assume that the direction the history taked from this forgotten agreement will prevent it from happened ever.
it simply make the radicals, the nationalistic, the religious and the anti-democratic powers in both sides of the middle east stronger than ever, and that alone prevent it from re-established.
The Holy Womble
15-07-2005, 12:37
First off, the Weizmann-Feisal agreement you are referring to did not suggest a unified Arab-Jewish state, but instead two separate states, one Arab and one Jewish, working in cooperation. Could be a good idea, especially since Feisal was the only person who could unite the Arabs regardless of the religious and geographic divide (which is why the British were forced to give him the Iraqi throne- no one else could be seen as a legitimate ruler by both the Shias and the Sunnis).

A possible outcome would be a far more wealthy and stable world with much less Islamist terrorism. Feisal couldn't stand religious extremism and was an active proponent of Arab industrialization and commerce development, while at the same time having significant influence over the religious Muslim world, so he could be just the man to bring the Arab nation into modernity with minimal losses and maximum efficiency. Oh and there would be less anti-Semitism too, because Feisal was quote pro-Jewish and saw Jews and Arabs as brothers in both blood and cause.
Green israel
15-07-2005, 15:51
First off, the Weizmann-Feisal agreement you are referring to did not suggest a unified Arab-Jewish state, but instead two separate states, one Arab and one Jewish, working in cooperation. Could be a good idea, especially since Feisal was the only person who could unite the Arabs regardless of the religious and geographic divide (which is why the British were forced to give him the Iraqi throne- no one else could be seen as a legitimate ruler by both the Shias and the Sunnis).

A possible outcome would be a far more wealthy and stable world with much less Islamist terrorism. Feisal couldn't stand religious extremism and was an active proponent of Arab industrialization and commerce development, while at the same time having significant influence over the religious Muslim world, so he could be just the man to bring the Arab nation into modernity with minimal losses and maximum efficiency. Oh and there would be less anti-Semitism too, because Feisal was quote pro-Jewish and saw Jews and Arabs as brothers in both blood and cause.
yes, I probably messed up the facts, although I almost sure that this the way that my conspirator teacher show the facts.
I think that if it was happened, the world would just make is efforts on others fights, or on the african situation.