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Unintended Consequences--Politics and the 7/7 Bombings

The Nazz
15-07-2005, 05:05
Not long after the 7/7 bombings in London, I started seeing all manner of conspiracy theories popping up on--where else?--the internet. Bush and Blair had planned them or at least let them happen to bolster their approval ratings, blah blah blah. Same sort of nonsensical crap that has followed the 9/11 attack theories (Bush, the Bilderburgers and Satan conspiring on that one, etc).

What I'm about to post is not a conspiracy theory, although it is an exploration of what possibly might be the law of unintended consequences at work in a very real and very dangerous way. This is not my work--it's the work of a blogger named John Aravosis, most famous for breaking the Jeff Gannon/James Guckert story. Here's the link to the larger story. (http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/07/bush-admin-may-be-responsible-for.html)

ABC news reported this evening that London has tied the bombings to an al Qaeda group that has been planning them for the last two years. The British thought they had stopped this planned attack with the arrest of 12 extremists last year. Obviously, they were wrong.

Here's the basics--last year, the British made a significant bust of a higher-up in al-Qaeda, a man named Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan. They confiscated Khan's laptop, which contained a ton of information on future plans of attack and other members of his cell. Once Khan was captured, he was turned and started sending emails to people he worked with. He was a deep-level mole.

Enter the Bush administration. Last August, the british arrested the above-mentioned 12 extremists. The same week, the Bush administration raised the terror alert level, in part because of information found on that computer. In an effort to justify the raising of the alert level, the administration gave out a bit too much information, and set the media on the trail of Khan. Once this happened, Khan's al Qaeda buddies figured out he'd been turned and they scarpered.

ABC News' terrorism expert said that the cell that carried out last week's attacks was likely activated after the arrests last year.

Most of this is a matter of public record, and links are provided at Americablog, as well as extensive quotes from the articles.

Now please understand what I'm saying here. I'm not saying that Bush is responsible for the attacks, nor am I saying that they wouldn't have happened even if this leak hadn't happened. I'm not God--I don't have that sort of information.

What I am saying is that actions taken even for innocent reasons--and I'm not quite willing to give the administration credit for being innocent in their reasons for that terror alert--often have unintended consequences, and sometimes those consequences are deadly for others. It would really be a shame if it turned out that a terror alert meant to make an already tense public even more nervous on the week before the opposition party's convention inadvertently caused British intelligence to miss out on an opportunity to close down a cell of terrorists that would eventually kill more than fifty people.
NERVUN
15-07-2005, 05:16
Not quite sure what you're going for here, Nazz.
CSW
15-07-2005, 05:19
Not quite sure what you're going for here, Nazz.
Bush leaked, people died.
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 05:28
Not quite sure what you're going for here, Nazz.
To be perfectly honest, I'm not quite sure either. It's more a rumination than anything else. I'm trying to be real careful about jumping out there and saying that the political arm of the Bush administration inadvertently enabled the 7/7 bombings, basically because I don't have any proof that the raised terror alert last August was politically motivated rather than motivated by actual intelligence.

Tom Ridge has come out and said that some of the terror alert raises were political, but to my knowledge, he never came out and said which ones were and which ones weren't. You can understand my caution, especially when I read that in this case, there was relatively fresh info out there.

But then I factor in the way that the Bush administration has abused the system for the last five years, and I get a bit of the "boy who cried wolf" syndrome. I think to myself, they've politicized every other damn thing, why not this? I think to myself, they've never worried about the consequences of their actions before--why start now? Just look at the way they've treated nay-sayers--Richard Clarke, Paul O'Neill, Joseph Wilson--the list goes on. So I'm cynical.

And yet I'm really trying not to let my imagination run away with me on this one.

So I don't know exactly what I'm trying to get at here--just thinking out loud, I suppose.
Deleuze
15-07-2005, 05:31
It's an interesting thesis. But non-falsifiable. We can't know if the terrorists knew that Bush's raise in the terror alert came from the laptop, as they're dead and can't tell anyone. I'd like to see the text of the release justifying the raised terror level.
Gataway_Driver
15-07-2005, 05:33
I think the effects are a much more interesting thing, British Muslim groups have decided now to preach in English, be much more vigulant and actively encourage the use of the democratic system. The country in my opinion is a lot more unified at their disgust of terrorists and I think Brits understand better on what is happening to iraqi's on a regular basis as they did it on our turf.
Gataway_Driver
15-07-2005, 11:58
bump. Because i thought it was an interesting thread
Tidlandia
15-07-2005, 12:39
For crying out loud, can we stop referring to this incident as "7/7"!

I know it is handy the date is pallindromic so as not to cause confusion over the fact that we in the UK do Day/Month and the US do Month/Day, but that doesn't mean we have to use it.


Not every public scandal should be called something-gate after the watergate incident, and not every terrorist bombing should be refered to by it's date.

Thankyou
Niccolo Medici
15-07-2005, 12:44
It feels a little like that footage of the police officer who pulled over one of the 9/11 hijackers for speeding. Just that feeling of "so close" that pulls at you.

But yes, the political motivations for some of the terror alets has me deeply concerned. That this particular alert you mention may have allowed the British bombers a chance to get underground is just another example of how fragile our defenses continue to be.

The best course of action would be to continue campaigning for greater transperancy in government, and a beefing up of our intelligence arm.
The Nazz
15-07-2005, 12:55
For crying out loud, can we stop referring to this incident as "7/7"!

I know it is handy the date is pallindromic so as not to cause confusion over the fact that we in the UK do Day/Month and the US do Month/Day, but that doesn't mean we have to use it.


Not every public scandal should be called something-gate after the watergate incident, and not every terrorist bombing should be refered to by it's date.

ThankyouSorry--I was trying to fit it into a limited space for the title. I don't generally do it either.
Men Loving Men
15-07-2005, 13:03
For crying out loud, can we stop referring to this incident as "7/7"!

I know it is handy the date is pallindromic so as not to cause confusion over the fact that we in the UK do Day/Month and the US do Month/Day, but that doesn't mean we have to use it.


Not every public scandal should be called something-gate after the watergate incident, and not every terrorist bombing should be refered to by it's date.

Thankyou

I completely agree with you, but I want to add a few arguments for your case, namely that other things will happen on the seventh day in the seventh month according to the Gregorian calendar. Furthermore, I don't think it helps anyone to strongly associate a terrorist bombing with a date, on the contrary, it will if anything risk rendering the victims unable to get over the tragedy, because the date will come every year for the rest of their lives.