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"Fr. John F. O'Connor. Every day the news media carries stories of homosexuals and lesbians attempting to change America through indoctrination, legislation, infiltration and intimidation. They want everyone to accept their lifestyle as normal because they claim that God made them that way. Father O'Connor prudently presents the other side of the story that the media and homosexuals are not telling the public. Every basic catechism explains that Sodomy (homosexual acts) is one of the 4 sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance because it is so contrary to the laws of nature. It offends God so much that there should be no question to its opposition. Instead, we see alarming inroads made every day by homosexuals into the life of the Church and society. Fr. O'Connor details those inroads, especially into the Church and America, shows why God is so offended. He includes so much potent and powerful information on what has already happened as well as what is happening now in our seminaries, parishes, schools, cities, courts, government, military, movies and television, that one is left stunned and overwhelmed with its enormity. The only glimmer of hope is that homosexuals can be cured, says Father, but they refuse to be cured because they then would have to admit that God did not make them the way they are. This sobering presentation is not for delicate souls. It is a very powerful presentation of knowledge that needs to be known in order to counteract the Devils plan to push the country to the brink of moral collapse. Comprehensive!! Compelling!! Convincing!!"

I don't agree with the Good Father's opinions that much (though I do find extrovert fags to be repulsive humans), but it does inspire some debate, I mean, where do we draw the line? I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized. Could you imagine if they succeeded?! Atheism is on the warpath.

Jeez, buddy. Someone's been eating his sociopolitical Wheaties, eh?

how many stupid posts can someone make in one day.

(A) What this guy is saying is contrary to already existing Catholic dogma. Way to be a heretic (at least to Catholics). The Catechism clearly states that homosexuals are made the way they are. However, according to it, they are called to a life of celibacy.

(B) There is a very, very tiny group of people trying to get man-boy love legalized (NAMBLA). That hardly encompasses all or even most atheists. In fact, it is doubtful that the majority of NAMBLA members even are atheists.

(C) What "gay indoctrination" have you seen? I have yet to see any.

(D) How can something that is perfectly natural be "contrary to the laws of nature"? It may be contrary to the laws of God - none of us can know with absolute certainty, but the only things that are contrary to the laws of nature are those things which cannot occur in nature.

*snip* homophobic rant
I like sodomy myself, and I'm straight. Does that make me bad?

I don't agree with the Good Father's opinions that much (though I do find extrovert fags to be repulsive humans),
Good for you. I find extroverted and blatant homophobes to be repulsive.


but it does inspire some debate, I mean, where do we draw the line? I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized. Bullshit. NAMBLA hardly constitutes 'a lot'.


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What's your source, btw? From the style it's written, it doesn't sound very objective...
I must admit that I find male homosexuals somewhat repulsive, but I hate cheese even more and you don't see me campaigning against cheese. Do you have any arguements other than what priests have to say?

Quite frankly I feel insulted, no one told me we were conspirators against the Church!

What's your source, btw? From the style it's written, it doesn't sound very objective...
I must admit that I find male homosexuals somewhat repulsive, but I hate cheese even more and you don't see me campaigning against cheese. Do you have any arguements other than what priests have to say?

My point was not that I agreed with the Father, but rather, It raised an interesting question in general, Where do we draw the line? That is my point.

My point was not that I agreed with the Father, but rather, It raised an interesting question in general, Where do we draw the line? That is my point.As long as they stick to rules that apply to hetero relationships I'm fine.

I like sodomy myself, and I'm straight. Does that make me bad?

If bad = hot, then yes. :p

Quite frankly I feel insulted, no one told me we were conspirators against the Church!

How often do you check your inbox?

:p

go and rant with your fred phelps bullshit on some nazi message board you fucking facist

:gundge: I think all gays should be deported to a magical gay island far far away from america. Here's the catch though. They have to live by themselves and can't use test tubes or surrogate parents to have kids. They have to do it themselves. Ha ha, i'd like to see how long that'd last

I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized.

Can you post some proof for this? The fact that for centuries good christians screwed 12 year old girls is well documented, but I've never heard of "atheists [...] campaigning for years to get paedophilia legalized"

Laws of nature, huh? How's this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

But then again, anything that goes against christianity must be wrong. That's why it's our state religion, right? :rolleyes: If it doesn't cause outright harm to people, like blood cults or something, no one has the right to intervene.

:gundge: I think all gays should be deported to a magical gay island far far away from america. Here's the catch though. They have to live by themselves and can't use test tubes or surrogate parents to have kids. They have to do it themselves. Ha ha, i'd like to see how long that'd last
Not long before the first "straights" back on the mainland jump the closet.

Laws of nature, huh? How's this:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals

Most Animals also have primitive natural instincts about territory, to the point, when say a Lion, will rip apart and dismember anyone who strays onto his territory, should we apply this to humanity also?

go and rant with your fred phelps bullshit on some nazi message board you fucking facist

Woah, easy there. You don't have to flame people to get your point across.

I like sodomy myself, and I'm straight. Does that make me bad?
Jesus will eat your tears once you're crying in the third circle of hell.


Quite frankly I feel insulted, no one told me we were conspirators against the Church!
Didn't you get the memo?
Now let's spread our Agenda of Elemental Evil.

:gundge: I think all gays should be deported to a magical gay island far far away from america. Here's the catch though. They have to live by themselves and can't use test tubes or surrogate parents to have kids. They have to do it themselves. Ha ha, i'd like to see how long that'd last

It's called the Netherlands.

Most Animals also have primitive natural instincts about territory, to the point, when say a Lion, will rip apart and dismember anyone who strays onto his territory, should we apply this to humanity also?I'm pretty sure Whispering Legs would do something like that...:p

Quite frankly I feel insulted, no one told me we were conspirators against the Church!
Dont worry, apparently muslims and atheists are in on it too according to this HHE chap... I'm just waiting for the disenchanted liberal Catholic call-up and then i'll be pleased to join you.

Most Animals also have primitive natural instincts about territory, to the point, when say a Lion, will rip apart and dismember anyone who strays onto his territory, should we apply this to humanity also?

How very predictable.

Fundie: Being gay ain't natural! It is against the laws of nature!
Rational Person: Hey, homosexuality occurs in nature.
Fundie: Are you saying we should do everything that any creature in nature does?
Rational Person: Um, no. I was just pointing out that your "unnatural" comment makes no sense.
Fundie: Being gay ain't natural!
Rational Person: :headbang:

Guess we should be putting on our tinfoil hats right about now.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Where do we draw the line?

I draw the line at listening to ranting, ignorant, prejudiced fools. People are entitled to their opinions, of course, but willful ignorance makes those opinions rather invalid. Open your mind, listen to many disparate opinions, and then form your own. How many openly gay people have you actually met? Have you gotten to know them as human beings rather than just the generic label of 'homosexual'?

The most devout Christians I know are very much in favour of human rights-- including gay rights-- because the major theme of Jesus' teaching was "Be nice to each other." The Bible is filled with examples of people of different cultures and faiths getting along and helping each other. It's a pity so few people follow those examples today. The world would be much more peaceful and friendly.

If we'd ever considering returning to the laws of nature, let's maybe not look at lions (with the above mentioned territory defending and the not mentioned killing the cubs of a competetor), ducks (who are known to rape female ducks to death) or orang-utans (whose males keep harems under a tight and violent regime), but maybe to our closest relatives, the bonobos, and not at some distant relatives.
Though it would probably be very awkward at first, having sex as a way of greeting someone would probably be also very, very hilarious.

"Fr. John F. O'Connor. Every day the news media carries stories of homosexuals and lesbians attempting to change America through indoctrination, legislation, infiltration and intimidation. They want everyone to accept their lifestyle as normal because they claim that God made them that way. Father O'Connor prudently presents the other side of the story that the media and homosexuals are not telling the public. Every basic catechism explains that Sodomy (homosexual acts) is one of the 4 sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance because it is so contrary to the laws of nature. It offends God so much that there should be no question to its opposition. Instead, we see alarming inroads made every day by homosexuals into the life of the Church and society. Fr. O'Connor details those inroads, especially into the Church and America, shows why God is so offended. He includes so much potent and powerful information on what has already happened as well as what is happening now in our seminaries, parishes, schools, cities, courts, government, military, movies and television, that one is left stunned and overwhelmed with its enormity. The only glimmer of hope is that homosexuals can be cured, says Father, but they refuse to be cured because they then would have to admit that God did not make them the way they are. This sobering presentation is not for delicate souls. It is a very powerful presentation of knowledge that needs to be known in order to counteract the Devils plan to push the country to the brink of moral collapse. Comprehensive!! Compelling!! Convincing!!"

I don't agree with the Good Father's opinions that much (though I do find extrovert fags to be repulsive humans), but it does inspire some debate, I mean, where do we draw the line? I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized. Could you imagine if they succeeded?! Atheism is on the warpath.

Ok show me these "atheists" or "libertarian atheists" that are trying to get pedophilia legalized

(and I just love this argument … few hundred years ago the christian church was blessing marriages of 12 year olds to any man that would have them)

How very predictable.

Fundie: Being gay ain't natural! It is against the laws of nature!
Rational Person: Hey, homosexuality occurs in nature.
Fundie: Are you saying we should do everything that any creature in nature does?
Rational Person: Um, no. I was just pointing out that your "unnatural" comment makes no sense.
Fundie: Being gay ain't natural!
Rational Person: :headbang:
I never got that stupid argument either … but it happens all the time

No.. No.. It's all true... There is a homosexual conspiracy against the Catholic church! The homosexuals have infiltrated the church to the point where 1 in 5 priests are now gay! Pretty soon they'll be rescheduling Mass around reruns of Queer-Eye! There is even a movement now to further accessorize the Pope's already fruity costume!

This "us or them" mentality is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. According to this Father, all homosexuals are linked together in a network to conspire against the Catholic Church (even though most seem to be ignoring such a church that condmens them to hell for their lifestyle...), and, if you listen to others who participate on this forum, these homosexual conspirators are in league with every other person of every other religion besides Catholicism as well as all atheists, communists, socialists, etc. (i.e. "PEOPLE NOT LIKE US").

I'm going to be quite blunt here: if a person is so impossibly fucking stupid to think that a group of people that large is joined together in a vast organized conspiracy against a church that most would never set foot in anyway, I've definitely seen the furthest possible degree of stupidity in existence.

No.. No.. It's all true... There is a homosexual conspiracy against the Catholic church! The homosexuals have infiltrated the church to the point where 1 in 5 priests are now gay! Pretty soon they'll be rescheduling Mass around reruns of Queer-Eye! There is even a movement now to further accessorize the Pope's already fruity costume!
Well, I never denied it.
But anyways, does somebody else think that Pope Benedict XVI - in his nifty papal robes - looks like a very old woman in a very, very ugly dress?

Didn't you get the memo?
Now let's spread our Agenda of Elemental Evil.

No one ever tells me these things.

No one ever tells me these things.
We're trying to shelter you. :p

I draw the line at listening to ranting, ignorant, prejudiced fools. People are entitled to their opinions, of course, but willful ignorance makes those opinions rather invalid. Open your mind, listen to many disparate opinions, and then form your own. How many openly gay people have you actually met? Have you gotten to know them as human beings rather than just the generic label of 'homosexual'?

The most devout Christians I know are very much in favour of human rights-- including gay rights-- because the major theme of Jesus' teaching was "Be nice to each other." The Bible is filled with examples of people of different cultures and faiths getting along and helping each other. It's a pity so few people follow those examples today. The world would be much more peaceful and friendly.



Read the bible then say that.

And here I thought the Catholic Church were the ones perpetrating the conspiracies, not having them perpetrated against them. Hmm. The more you know....

But, hey, sodomy makes the world go 'round.

Read the bible then say that.

I know, seriously. The Bible has nothing to do with tolerance and acceptance. It's all about bigotry and irrational hatred of the unknown. Everyone knows that.

How very predictable.

Fundie: Being gay ain't natural! It is against the laws of nature!
Rational Person: Hey, homosexuality occurs in nature.
Fundie: Are you saying we should do everything that any creature in nature does?
Rational Person: Um, no. I was just pointing out that your "unnatural" comment makes no sense.
Fundie: Being gay ain't natural!
Rational Person: :headbang:

ROFL

Thats the funniest shit i've ever read. Props to you on that one.

Fundimentalists don't realize that Homosexuals arn't a new thing. They can be traced back for hundreds of years.

Read the bible then say that.
How's reading the bible going to influence that statement?

This is unfair, just because I'm straight I'm not allowed to join the evil conspiracy against the church. Please let me join, it sounds fun. :)

Read the bible then say that.
You know they focus on more the love then the nitpicky details

ROFL

Thats the funniest shit i've ever read. Props to you on that one.

Fundimentalists don't realize that Homosexuals arn't a new thing. They can be traced back for hundreds of years.Actually, its mentioned in the good book, in the old testament. It gets condemned there, so I'm pretty sure they know its been around for quite some time.

I know, seriously. The Bible has nothing to do with tolerance and acceptance. It's all about bigotry and irrational hatred of the unknown. Everyone knows that.
I can totally agree. Let's just all say 'shibboleth'.

Quite frankly I feel insulted, no one told me we were conspirators against the Church!

If it makes you feel any better I didn't know I was in a conspiracy against homosexual people :eek:

[i] I don't agree with the Good Father's opinions that much (though I do find extrovert fags to be repulsive humans), but it does inspire some debate, I mean, where do we draw the line? I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized. Could you imagine if they succeeded?! Atheism is on the warpath.

You closeted heterosexuals make me sick! You claim to be on the side of God by blaming atheists when it is common knowledge that paedophiles are exclusively straight christians. The Bible is contains several passages condemning heterosexuality. It cannot be denied that God sent syphilis to kill the straights. Your only hope for salvation is to turn from your sinful ways and embrace the homosexual love to which God calls all people. :fluffle:

This is unfair, just because I'm straight I'm not allowed to join the evil conspiracy against the church. Please let me join, it sounds fun. :)

As long as you are not Christian, then you can join..........or perhaps a plumber...yes blumbers are in league with the devil, one once tried to charge me and extra hour because he sat and drunk a cup of tea that I had made him AFTER he'd finished the job.......

This is unfair, just because I'm straight I'm not allowed to join the evil conspiracy against the church. Please let me join, it sounds fun. :)
Well, maybe we could let you join if you tried pegging at least once.
You know, it's all about that kind of sodomy. ;)

"Fr. John F. O'Connor. Every day the news media carries stories of homosexuals and lesbians attempting to change America through indoctrination, legislation, infiltration and intimidation.


Wow I missed the memo on where to go and I must not understand intimidation as I haven't noticed it. Maybe I am numb to violence on TV so I can't tell anymore. :rolleyes:


They want everyone to accept their lifestyle as normal because they claim that God made them that way. Father O'Connor prudently presents the other side of the story that the media and homosexuals are not telling the public. Every basic catechism explains that Sodomy (homosexual acts) is one of the 4 sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance because it is so contrary to the laws of nature.

Seems the Father didn't know anything about the examples of the Primate world so the claim of the laws of nature are invalid. Just do a google for the Bonobo or read anything from Franz De Waal.


It offends God so much that there should be no question to its opposition.
Any yet it exists in nature.


Instead, we see alarming inroads made every day by homosexuals into the life of the Church and society. Fr. O'Connor details those inroads, especially into the Church and America, shows why God is so offended. He includes so much potent and powerful information on what has already happened as well as what is happening now in our seminaries, parishes, schools, cities, courts, government, military, movies and television, that one is left stunned and overwhelmed with its enormity. The only glimmer of hope is that homosexuals can be cured, says Father, but they refuse to be cured because they then would have to admit that God did not make them the way they are.

Hmm yea they should go back into the closet where they belong. :rolleyes:

Until they can identify a homosexual gene, not going to happen.

EWWW! I hope they do find something. There were be a spiritual debate. Since it is real then what did God intend?


This sobering presentation is not for delicate souls. It is a very powerful presentation of knowledge that needs to be known in order to counteract the Devils plan to push the country to the brink of moral collapse. Comprehensive!! Compelling!! Convincing!!"

Do post a linky. I have a sick interest for reading a theologians crap about what science really means.

I could use a laugh so do post a link.


I don't agree with the Good Father's opinions that much (though I do find extrovert fags to be repulsive humans), but it does inspire some debate, I mean, where do we draw the line?


"Extrovert fags" well many just might find you repulsive for that kind of thought.


I know a hell of a lot of Atheists and Libertarian Atheists have been campaigning for YEARS to get paedophilia legalized. Could you imagine if they succeeded?! Atheism is on the warpath.

I get to call you a liar if you don't provide your proof.

BTW: I am not an Atheist nor a libertarian......

Actually, its mentioned in the good book, in the old testament. It gets condemned there, so I'm pretty sure they know its been around for quite some time.

Well from what i can tell about some of these people. It seems like they skip pages while reading the bible....

Actually, its mentioned in the good book, in the old testament. It gets condemned there, so I'm pretty sure they know its been around for quite some time.

Religion decrees that homosexuality is unatural, yet we are the only species that has religion. Still to make it even better is that its been proven that animals have homosexual tendencies. Coupled with the fact that homosexuality has been around longer than religion I findthis whole debate rather amusing.

But, hey, sodomy makes the world go 'round.
That makes me wish I could find that one picture that RPP once posted, containing a certain banner...
Would be a perfect fit for this thread. But alas, I can't seem to remember where it was.

Religion decrees that homosexuality is unatural, yet we are the only species that has religion. Still to make it even better is that its been proven that animals have homosexual tendencies. Coupled with the fact that homosexuality has been around longer than religion I findthis whole debate rather amusing.Amusing? I think it's gotten a bit boring... The most recent most right post was from ME! :eek: I'm so ashamed of myself... :(

Viva la militant homosexual agenda! Down with the straights!