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Sorry for this but I really have to get this off my chest. Yes this is another rant about Natalee Holloway. So if your sick of her I warn you, turn back now.

Well I take that back, this isn't so much about her as it is about the media, and missing children. And how they only focus on the kids with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Now I know the viewer can't technically control what the media shows, and the media isn't always an accurate representation of what people want to know about. But American media ( I say American because I haven't seen this happen in Canada personally) seem fascinated with these kids.. why?

Many children go missing all the time, and many of them have different racial backgrounds, different religion, some might not even speak English. And true, sometimes you hear about them for a day or two, but Why so I still hear about Natalee Holloway?

Not only that, why are they bringing Dutch jets with specials cameras down to find her? I understand the basic logic, it's a small island you could perhaps find her. But this is also after hundred of volunteers and a specialized team from Texas (with highly trained dog with little booties and all)

Why aren't these kinds of resources put into all missing childrens cases. And it always seems, no matter what, dead or alive they search until the end to find these kids wit hthe blonde hair and blue eyes.

Can you tell I'm mindlessly ranting?

Does any of this bother anyone else? How other missing children who are just as important (no child is more or less important, no matter what family they come from)But we don't hear about the missing hispanic boy for three months, or the little black girl whose remains were found, with extensive interveiws with her family.

Why?

Uh...I personally think it had little to do with Holloway's hair or eye colour... It was perhaps the circumstances in which she was kidnapped, that she followed a complete stranger off. It's so typical. In Hong Kong, sometimes young girls who go out with people they've met over the Internet get raped/assaulted. They get reported too, lol.

Part of it is that it seems that way because of your mindset. You feel that they concentrate mostly on blond hair and blue eyes, so it seems more that way to you anyway.

It you can't guess a reason why they WOULD concentrate on people like that, you've not been paying attention to the world at all.

Sorry for this but I really have to get this off my chest. Yes this is another rant about Natalee Holloway. So if your sick of her I warn you, turn back now.

Well I take that back, this isn't so much about her as it is about the media, and missing children. And how they only focus on the kids with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Now I know the viewer can't technically control what the media shows, and the media isn't always an accurate representation of what people want to know about. But American media ( I say American because I haven't seen this happen in Canada personally) seem fascinated with these kids.. why?

Many children go missing all the time, and many of them have different racial backgrounds, different religion, some might not even speak English. And true, sometimes you hear about them for a day or two, but Why so I still hear about Natalee Holloway?

Not only that, why are they bringing Dutch jets with specials cameras down to find her? I understand the basic logic, it's a small island you could perhaps find her. But this is also after hundred of volunteers and a specialized team from Texas (with highly trained dog with little booties and all)

Why aren't these kinds of resources put into all missing childrens cases. And it always seems, no matter what, dead or alive they search until the end to find these kids wit hthe blonde hair and blue eyes.

Can you tell I'm mindlessly ranting?

Does any of this bother anyone else? How other missing children who are just as important (no child is more or less important, no matter what family they come from)But we don't hear about the missing hispanic boy for three months, or the little black girl whose remains were found, with extensive interveiws with her family.

Why?

I won't even try to begin to fathom how the media works and why it picks and chooses its stories to cover. My guess, though, would have to be that perhaps they decide (vainly) what would hold the attention of us, the viewers.

Now, why is it that I hardly watch any major news network again...?

Aruba's only real industry is tourism. And if they don't at least find a body, the killing will be a horrible mark on their tiny country, and affect future tourism. It's clear why they would spend so much resources and manpower to find her body.

In the US, more often than not (ok, almost every time) a somewhat wealthy blond female get's kidnapped, there is a huge deal about it. I can't recall, EVER having seen such a big deal about a minority.

fact is, america is racist, and to get ratings, the news companies play on this.
play on what the people want...it's brilliant.

In Germany, the media only gets hyped if young children are missing, in which case all news programs feature at least one short report on it. This happens regardless of the kid's appearance. When two Turkish kids died after playing on train tracks, it got as much coverage as two white kids would have.
Other than that, missing people get mentioned on XY-Ungelöst, our unsolved crime show.

Yeah I agree, you wont be missed. Sorry for the bad news :(

Personally. I could care less what kind of person went missing. What interests me is that she went missing in a foreign country and was most likely killed by a foreigner. But I’m a patriot (some would say nationalist), so I guess the “you hurt one of us, you hurt all of us” mentality is to be expected from me.

I think it has more to do with the fact its an american in a different nation, a not all that ugly girl, the fact she dissappeared on a tiny island and still hasnt been found (shark food anyone?), and the fact that suspect reminds everybody of a Kennedy so much that everybody knows his daddy lawyer will get him off the hook, while the two others will probably pay for it eventually.

It has nothing to do with the fact that she had blonde hair and blue eyes. It has everything to do that she's attractive, young, and American. A brown hair, brown eyed attractive young American female would get as much media attention, as would a black or Hispanic attractive young American female.

Aruba's only real industry is tourism. And if they don't at least find a body, the killing will be a horrible mark on their tiny country, and affect future tourism. It's clear why they would spend so much resources and manpower to find her body.
Exactly. The amount of media interest makes the local authorities go out of their way to find her, in order to preserve their air of a nice, safe vacation spot.

Sorry for this but I really have to get this off my chest. Yes this is another rant about Natalee Holloway. So if your sick of her I warn you, turn back now.

Well I take that back, this isn't so much about her as it is about the media, and missing children. And how they only focus on the kids with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Now I know the viewer can't technically control what the media shows, and the media isn't always an accurate representation of what people want to know about. But American media ( I say American because I haven't seen this happen in Canada personally) seem fascinated with these kids.. why?

Many children go missing all the time, and many of them have different racial backgrounds, different religion, some might not even speak English. And true, sometimes you hear about them for a day or two, but Why so I still hear about Natalee Holloway?

Not only that, why are they bringing Dutch jets with specials cameras down to find her? I understand the basic logic, it's a small island you could perhaps find her. But this is also after hundred of volunteers and a specialized team from Texas (with highly trained dog with little booties and all)

Why aren't these kinds of resources put into all missing childrens cases. And it always seems, no matter what, dead or alive they search until the end to find these kids wit hthe blonde hair and blue eyes.

Can you tell I'm mindlessly ranting?

Does any of this bother anyone else? How other missing children who are just as important (no child is more or less important, no matter what family they come from)But we don't hear about the missing hispanic boy for three months, or the little black girl whose remains were found, with extensive interveiws with her family.

Why?

I know exactly what you mean. Anyone remember the story of the black girl that was kidnapped but bit through the duct tape on her face and wrists, incapacitated one of the kidnappers, broke through a window, ran home and called the police before her mom got home for dinner? I mean shit. The most I remember hearing about that was on the scroll thing at the botom of the news channels.

Pull out a copy of Jon Stewart and the Daily Show's "America; the book" and take a gander at the chapter devoted to the media.

There's a chart in there that rates just how much coverage ANYTHING gets. Look up the Aruba thingy and do the math, and you'll see it rates about 150 Buttafuco's; that's OBSCENE coverage-worthy.

We're talking about a non famous person, involved in a speakable sexual act, kidnapping (not involving the son of a famous aviator), and ending in a muder.

Look at the Jackson trial! It rates about 175+ Buttafuco's, no wonder why it gets more coverage than this kidnapping/murder case. Compare that to ANY other news story, only OJ Simpson came close.

Now, I'm pretty sure that chart was made in jest...but do the numbers: they don't lie. This chart is accurate to within a few Buttafuco's.

Pull out a copy of Jon Stewart and the Daily Show's "America; the book" and take a gander at the chapter devoted to the media.

There's a chart in there that rates just how much coverage ANYTHING gets. Look up the Aruba thingy and do the math, and you'll see it rates about 150 Buttafuco's; that's OBSCENE coverage-worthy.

We're talking about a non famous person, involved in a speakable sexual act, kidnapping (not involving the son of a famous aviator), and ending in a muder.

Look at the Jackson trial! It rates about 175+ Buttafuco's, no wonder why it gets more coverage than this kidnapping/murder case. Compare that to ANY other news story, only OJ Simpson came close.

Now, I'm pretty sure that chart was made in jest...but do the numbers: they don't lie. This chart is accurate to within a few Buttafuco's.

I must get that book!

I dont really know what you guys are talking abut but
Blonde and blue eyes is worth more than common Brown and Brown in the people trading market.

Girl at School back in the day((Wont call her a friend)I tackled her once! :eek: :D ) went to Dubai or something and her father was offfered a fair amount of Camels for her.
I would have taken the Camels.
God bless the Arabs

But seriously what happened with this girl(Is it girl as in 12 yrs or girl as in young Woman?)

I dont really know what you guys are talking abut but
Blonde and blue eyes is worth more than common Brown and Brown in the people trading market.

Girl at School back in the day((Wont call her a friend)I tackled her once! :eek: :D ) went to Dubai or something and her father was offfered a fair amount of Camels for her.
I would have taken the Camels.
God bless the Arabs

But seriously what happened with this girl(Is it girl as in 12 yrs or girl as in young Woman?)

18 year old, just graduated from high school.

Thanks Chief!
Ok so what happened she was abducted or has gone missing?
Was it in Hong Kong?

I really havent heard much.

Pull out a copy of Jon Stewart and the Daily Show's "America; the book" and take a gander at the chapter devoted to the media.
Is it the one that starts with:
"In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and discovered America. Now some people argue that the Vikings discovered it, or that Columbus only discovered the West Indies, or that a continent already full of an indigenous population can't be discovered. These people are Communists. Columbus discovered America."
?

Is it the one that starts with:
"In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and discovered America. Now some people argue that the Vikings discovered it, or that Columbus only discovered the West Indies, or that a continent already full of an indigenous population can't be discovered. These people are Communists. Columbus discovered America."
?

Correction. The Chinese discovered America.

Thanks Chief!
Ok so what happened she was abducted or has gone missing?
Was it in Hong Kong?

I really havent heard much.

It was in Aruba. She was abducted by some punk kid of Dutch ancestry.

Sorry for this but I really have to get this off my chest. Yes this is another rant about Natalee Holloway. So if your sick of her I warn you, turn back now.

Well I take that back, this isn't so much about her as it is about the media, and missing children. And how they only focus on the kids with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Now I know the viewer can't technically control what the media shows, and the media isn't always an accurate representation of what people want to know about. But American media ( I say American because I haven't seen this happen in Canada personally) seem fascinated with these kids.. why?

Many children go missing all the time, and many of them have different racial backgrounds, different religion, some might not even speak English. And true, sometimes you hear about them for a day or two, but Why so I still hear about Natalee Holloway?

Why?

Here in the UK we have it the other way around. We still hear about the police not doing enough to catch the murderers of a young black guy named Stephen Lawrence (happened over a decade ago), but we hear next to nothing about armed black-on-white crime and only brief snippets about a lot of the really horrible Muslim-on-white crime that's been going on recently (white guy abducted, beheaded and torched because some other white guy has pissed on of this gang off and they wanted to "find a white" to get revenge).

But hey, them's the breaks. Apparently.

I must get that book!

Very good book. I have the audio version though.

Is it the one that starts with:
"In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and discovered America. Now some people argue that the Vikings discovered it, or that Columbus only discovered the West Indies, or that a continent already full of an indigenous population can't be discovered. These people are Communists. Columbus discovered America."
?

Right book, wrong chapter. :)

Its the one that starts with the picture of the guy on the left with his arms held wide, looking disheveled and angry, with a caption. "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" And has a rant about how just about every major media source in America has failed its public duty in a most shameful and degraded way.

The chart is near the back of that chapter.

Thanks Undelia but after this abduction by the Dutch-They are well known for these things.

What happened is she safe or still missing.
Because they know who did it im guessing its bad.

Here in the UK we have it the other way around. We still hear about the police not doing enough to catch the murderers of a young black guy named Stephen Lawrence (happened over a decade ago), but we hear next to nothing about armed black-on-white crime and only brief snippets about a lot of the really horrible Muslim-on-white crime that's been going on recently (white guy abducted, beheaded and torched because some other white guy has pissed on of this gang off and they wanted to "find a white" to get revenge).

But hey, them's the breaks. Apparently.

That stuff happens in the UK? I thought y’all were supposed to have a super low crime rate.

Thanks Undelia but after this abduction by the Dutch-They are well known for these things.

What happened is she safe or still missing.
Because they know who did it im guessing its bad.

I sure hope your joking ‘bout the first part.

Anyhoo, they haven’t found the body, but she is most likely dead.

Correction. The Chinese discovered America.
I wouldn't know. I wasn't around at the time. :p

I sure hope your joking ‘bout the first part.

Anyhoo, they haven’t found the body, but she is most likely dead.

Thats becuase they most likely sold her to pirates after they had their way with her. An attractive white woman would fetch a nice price on the black market. Im 100% serious.

I sure hope your joking ‘bout the first part.

Anyhoo, they haven’t found the body, but she is most likely dead.
What do you think i mean? :confused:

Correction. The Chinese discovered America.

Possibly. It is also possible that it was the Solutrean people of Neolithic France: not only are their very strong similarities between the way they worked flint and the Clovis style tools and those which predate them, but there is also genetic evidence of a European strand existing in the native Americans originating around about the right date.

Anyhow: the relevant point here is that America got discovered and then lost again time and time again.

Indeed, it seems just about everybody found ti and didn't like it...much.

No i didnt mean Pidgeoning the dead i meant the Dutch are Pirates.

Indeed, it seems just about everybody found ti and didn't like it...much.
Skrealings chased them away.

Skrealings chased them away.

Yeah, but the Skraelings were themselves then displaced by the incoming Wendigo population, and they themselves soon found themselves pressed for space in the face of the migration of Sasquatches. Even the subconscious of the Americas is a melting pot.

Yeah, but the Skraelings were themselves then displaced by the incoming Wendigo population, and they themselves soon found themselves pressed for space in the face of the migration of Sasquatches. Even the subconscious of the Americas is a melting pot.

Im getting flash backs from American Gods....

Bah, 18 y.o. goes out with three guys *on her own volition*and doesn't come back.

So far there's no evidence a crime has been committed and the last guy who saw her says he left her at the beach. She probably drowned.

Meanwhile, the people in the US are getting up in arms because they can't accept that she was so stupid as to leave alone with a bunch of strangers (who probably didn't do anything criminal), or go swimming in an unknown sea at night (probable and very dangerous), and because the chaperones were so incredibly stupid to let one of their charges do this. Of course, the dangerous foreigners are to blame, a blonde blue-eyed girl could never have committed a mistake.

Seriously, folks, the girl is probably on her way to Venezuela. And, no, if she hadn't been white and young, the media wouldn't have picked up on this story.

It might be an evolutionary thing. People seem to naturally be concerned more about those who are visually appealing. When we were wandering hunters it would hurt the tribe more to lose a healthy female of breeding age than some sickly chick who couldn't crank out lots of healthy babies. We judge health partly by appearance. There ya go.

... and the media uses this in their own advantage. Can't blaim them for doing buisness.

Frankly I don't give a damn about Natalee Holloway or what happened to her. She was stupid and let herself be kidnapped.

Its the one that starts with the picture of the guy on the left with his arms held wide, looking disheveled and angry, with a caption. "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" And has a rant about how just about every major media source in America has failed its public duty in a most shameful and degraded way.
Network. Wonderful movie.

Well-Natalee Holloway is still missing, despite her looks and in my opinion, she is screwed. I dont think they are going to find her alive. At this point, I dont expect they will find remains.

It's because we must protect the aryan children! They are the master race, our future! :rolleyes:

http://www.adolfhitler.ws/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/ahp/color/ah71c.jpg

I was transmogrified from the back of a milk carton into a real person and I have black hair and blue eyes. Saved my mother lots of pain and suffering. :D

Im getting flash backs from American Gods....

Never actually read it: I was personally thinking of the Robert Calvert (ex-Hawkwind) Lucky Leif And The Longships LP - a piece based on the idea that the Viking settlements in Vinland actually flourished and lasted in place of other later European colonial attempts.

In the US, more often than not (ok, almost every time) a somewhat wealthy blond female get's kidnapped, there is a huge deal about it. I can't recall, EVER having seen such a big deal about a minority.

fact is, america is racist, and to get ratings, the news companies play on this.
play on what the people want...it's brilliant.

i don't think it's overt racism... they're simply playing the demographics game. Most Americans are still white.

Now if they think that we only care about the health of blonde white females, then that says that the media have a fairly poor opinion of us.

Possibly. It is also possible that it was the Solutrean people of Neolithic France: not only are their very strong similarities between the way they worked flint and the Clovis style tools and those which predate them, but there is also genetic evidence of a European strand existing in the native Americans originating around about the right date.

Anyhow: the relevant point here is that America got discovered and then lost again time and time again.

well didn't asians come across the bering strait some time around the last ice age... and settle in North/south America, becoming Native Americans?

As someone already said, here in the UK, we hear more about attacks on minorities, than attacks on whites.

There was a little black boy called Daminola Taylor who was murdered in broad daylight by some white youths several years ago, but there has been such uproar because the attackers got off so easily. Would this have been reported if it was a white child? Or even a white child attacked by black men or other minorities?

Yeah I agree, you wont be missed. Sorry for the bad news :(

LOL!!!!!!

Frankly I don't give a damn about Natalee Holloway or what happened to her. She was stupid and let herself be kidnapped.
And she wasn't even kidnapped. She agreed to go with these guys, and there's no evidence so far that suggests murder, foulplay or any other wrong-doing ever took place.