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Which religion, would you say, is the craziest one out there. Not to offend anyone, but to find what most people think it is. I thought Evangelical Baptists, someone on another thread thought Jahovah's Witnesses, and I didn't want to hijack, so I'm making a new thread.

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This thread is very likely to draw a lot of flame. Don't try this at General. Bye.

The Jedi religion of Australia and Britain.

Scientology. You have to be insane to follow a religion created by a science fiction writer. I'm looking at YOU, Tom Cruise.

This thread is very likely to draw a lot of flame. Don't try this at General. Bye.

Yeah, I was worried about that, but the other guy said that we should start a new thread, and wanted me to do it, so I did. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but sadly I bet I will. Luckily all of the posts I have read have been jokes (maybe) so hopefully people are inferring that I'm trying to make it light. (Or as light as possible.)

EDIT: Oh god yeah, I forgot about the scientologists. They're absolutely nuts.

Yeah, I was worried about that, but the other guy said that we should start a new thread, and wanted me to do it, so I did. I'm not trying to start a flame war, but sadly I bet I will. Luckily all of the posts I have read have been jokes (maybe) so hopefully people are inferring that I'm trying to make it light. (Or as light as possible.)
Joke = Insult as in Terrorst = Freedom Fighter.

Just be careful.

the craziest religion???? why, it is called hockeyism... where I sacrafice a small goat to the likeness of wayne gretzky at an alter in my backyard every night. I am the high rabbi, and of course there are high priests. Unfortunatley, there was a great schizm in hockeyism, resulting in the two warring sects of overly aggressive 'offensiveism' and the democratic intellect of 'goalieism'. The rest is just history.... i am a missionary, on a ...mission.... to convert people to hockeyism, all who want to join, let me know, and provide me with a new-member's human sacrifice, complete with glowsticks, jello pudding, and a stanley cup hockey puck. JOIN TODAY!!

EDIT: Oh god yeah, I forgot about the scientologists. They're absolutely nuts.

Indeed. The sad part is it's becoming fashionable in Hollywood, which further degrades any faith I had in the integrity of celebrities. Whether I had any to begin with is another story.

Also of notable insanity is that cult Raelism, headed and founded by a French stock car racer. They believe we're all alien clones, but so far all they do is hold mass communal orgies.

Buddhism
Taoism
Baha'i
Unitarianism
Quaker
Mormon

Indeed. The sad part is it's becoming fashionable in Hollywood, which further degrades any faith I had in the integrity of celebrities. Whether I had any to begin with is another story.

Also of notable insanity is that cult Raelism, headed and founded by a French stock car racer. They believe we're all alien clones, but so far all they do is hold mass communal orgies.

And clone people.

I'm going to say the Moonies.

Indeed. The sad part is it's becoming fashionable in Hollywood, which further degrades any faith I had in the integrity of celebrities. Whether I had any to begin with is another story.

Also of notable insanity is that cult Raelism, headed and founded by a French stock car racer. They believe we're all alien clones, but so far all they do is hold mass communal orgies.

OK, I think that Raelism may have taken the cake. Giant orgies? Wow. So by their clone theory, any 'human' clones would most likely have defects due to genetic drift?

And clone people.

Well, so they said. Was it ever confirmed whether or not they managed to clone their 'Eve'?

If you count cults in this opinion thread, then I'd throw in Urantia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urantia_Book). Very... interesting.

Scientology. You have to be insane to follow a religion created by a science fiction writer. I'm looking at YOU, Tom Cruise.

*raises hand* I second the motion!

Buddhism
Taoism
Baha'i
Unitarianism
Quaker
Mormon

I find Jehovah's Witnesses as the wierdest sect of Christianity i've ever encountered. They call themselves Christian, but believe in the opposite things as a lot of Christians.

I'd have to agree with the idea that scientology cult is the craziest. I think celebrities are somehow brainwashing each other into it -- Tom Cruise's girlfriend was definitely brainwashed, anyway. She disappeared for weeks and came back a different person.

I find Jehovah's Witnesses as the wierdest sect of Christianity i've ever encountered. They call themselves Christian, but believe in the opposite things as a lot of Christians.

Jehovah's Witnesses keep coming to our house and giving us pamphlets.

We never run out of firewood at our house :D

Now if the scientologists bonded with the clone people...Then we'd really have something.

BTW: Thank you a lot for not flaming at all so far.

Well what can I say about Catholics: I'd never raise my kids Catholic. I just can't subject anyone to a religion where authority is determined by how big a guy's hat is: Priests have no hats, cardinals have those little beanies and the pope has a big collection of huge fucking hats. Apparently God's sitting up there with a big ass sombrero- "Lookit me! I'm God! Who else would I be with a hat this size?" I dunno! Lead singer of Los Lobos?! I don't know! (Not my routine: it's really Dennis Leary's.)
Of course, then there's that whole bit about spiritual cannibalism. I mean, does this guy really expect his followers to eat his flesh and drink his blood... and transubstantiation means that, according to the Catholics, this gesture is NOT merely symbolic. The bread and the wine really are the body and blood of Christ. Worshipping a guy's one thing, but eat him? Come on!

Now if the scientologists bonded with the clone people...Then we'd really have something.

BTW: Thank you a lot for not flaming at all so far.

I'm actually quite proud of myself.

Buddhism
Taoism
Baha'i
Unitarianism
Quaker
Mormon

I can't say I'm an expert with any of those religions, but Buddhism confused me. What's crazy about peace, harmony, and meditation? I'm sure it's got its fringes like any religion, but the core seems good enough.

hmm... off thetop of my head, cubism, scientology (i know, again!), there's a few others I feel are deserving of this title, but I can't remember what they're called

Gotta be Mormanism.

"Okay guys, this line of the bible says 'Procreate'. This means poon-tang times 50!"

"What about all these lines about fidelity, and faithfulness and such..."

"Nah, forget those lines. We ignore them."

I'm actually quite proud of myself.



I can't say I'm an expert with any of those religions, but Buddhism confused me. What's crazy about peace, harmony, and meditation? I'm sure it's got its fringes like any religion, but the core seems good enough.

Crushing desire seems pretty crazy. Emotionless life for peace and harmony? Screw that. Plus, look at Buddha. LOOK AT HIM. Doesn't he just make you want to punch a little kid?

Well, so they said. Was it ever confirmed whether or not they managed to clone their 'Eve'?

I believe them. Because I'm one of their clones.

Gotta be Mormanism.

"Okay guys, this line of the bible says 'Procreate'. This means poon-tang times 50!"

"What about all these lines about fidelity, and faithfulness and such..."

"Nah, forget those lines. We ignore them."

Hey, I think they've got the right idea.

'Fat' Buddha or 'at peace' Buddha? Fat Buddha kinda yeah. Not at peace.

Buddhism
Taoism
What!?
Buddhism and Taoism are way less screwed up than most other religions (i.e. Semitic religions, Scientology, Mormonism)

That's just his opinion. He's entitled to it.

Crushing desire seems pretty crazy. Emotionless life for peace and harmony? Screw that. Plus, look at Buddha. LOOK AT HIM. Doesn't he just make you want to punch a little kid?

Point taken, I'd rather have wild mood swings than simply be serene all the time. But I still wouldn't even put Buddhism in the top 10 craziest religions.

And if I were playing dodgeball against Buddha, I would definitely aim for him.

What!?
Buddhism and Taoism are way less screwed up than most other religions (i.e. Semitic religions, Scientology, Mormonism)

Only an environmentalist hippie would be a Buddhist or Taoist. Too much meditation shit and not enough smiting. Now, if the Christian God and the Hindu gods were to be fused into a single religion where there's a giant war between them, THAT'D be cool. and they'd have to use modern technology. Imagine Jesus in a freaking tank charging Vishnu's heavy mechanized infantry division. hell, all religions should be put together and take the war on earth and move it to the war in heaven. allah, yahweh, vishnu, shiva, all fighting each other in a gigantic war. I like it.

I believe them. Because I'm one of their clones.

Whoa, word up.

Are Rael's orgies worth attending, or are they kind of like real nude beaches?

What about hare Krishnas? George Harrison was one, and that always creeped me out. And the airport singing.

That's just his opinion. He's entitled to it.

To be honest, I just chose the most "peaceful" tolerant religions and put them in a list with the Mormons. But buddhism is still retarded.

Whoa, word up.

Are Rael's orgies worth attending, or are they kind of like real nude beaches?

After we're through, the entire beach is covered in lubrication.

Only an environmentalist hippie would be a Buddhist or Taoist. Too much meditation shit and not enough smiting. Now, if the Christian God and the Hindu gods were to be fused into a single religion where there's a giant war between them, THAT'D be cool. and they'd have to use modern technology. Imagine Jesus in a freaking tank charging Vishnu's heavy mechanized infantry division. hell, all religions should be put together and take the war on earth and move it to the war in heaven. allah, yahweh, vishnu, shiva, all fighting each other in a gigantic war. I like it.
Oh, I assumed the word "crazy" in the thread was meant the weird, nonsensical manner; not the cool, amazing manner. I would have to agree, watching shiva bitch slap God while ganesha pounded his giant hooves on Jesus's head would be pretty awesome. :D

After we're through, the entire beach is covered in lubrication.
Oil based? Won't somebody please think of the baby seals?

After we're through, the entire beach is covered in lubrication.

Ew. Raelism wins grossest.

Oil based? Won't somebody please think of the baby seals?
mmmmmm baby seals

Scientology. You have to be insane to follow a religion created by a science fiction writer. I'm looking at YOU, Tom Cruise.
I don't know - personally I think Scientology is a relatively speaking sane religion. A lot of people have been listing it as crazy, but I think that's mostly because it's so recently founded.

If you objectively examine what, for instance, Christianity asks you to believe, I don't really find it particularly more or less plausible than what scientology asks.

At least scientology aims at teaching people to cope with life in this world even if it has a sort of self help book feel.

By contrast, most other major religions put the emphasis squarely on the afterlife, and it seems to me that favoring a hypothetical afterlife over the real life we know exists is pretty crazy.

So, I'm an athiest, but on the whole i think scientology is one of the saner religions I've encountered.

Mmh, I get the jeovah witnesses panphlets every day, I use them as Pads for my mouse and the poor people think I believe in their stuff. Lol.

For me the weirdest belief has got to be Opus Dei guys. Noone knows too much about them, and the rumors are not really nice. They appear to be somewhat destructive and retrograd, as far as I can tell.

I don't know - personally I think Scientology is a relatively speaking sane religion. A lot of people have been listing it as crazy, but I think that's mostly because it's so recently founded.
Any "religion" which requires you to pay $500,000 to reach "level 7" sounds pretty insane to me.

nihilism...
sexual liberation movement...
discordiansim...
cult of kali.....
and yes the hare krishnas

And they keep talking about pseudo-science. Pot calling the kettle black, my friend.

So, I'm an athiest, but on the whole i think scientology is one of the saner religions I've encountered.

The simple fact that Scientology was created by L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer, makes it pretty crazy to me. I mean, what did he base his revelations on?

If I decided to randomly create a religion one day, it doesn't matter what it would be based on. It would be crazy.

Any "religion" which requires you to pay $500,000 to reach "level 7" sounds pretty insane to me.
Ohh, I agree entirely - I just don't think that the major religions are particularly more sane.

Any "religion" which requires you to pay $500,000 to reach "level 7" sounds pretty insane to me.

At level 7 you can do the kameameha blast.

Scientology, Raelians, Hari Krishnas...and those damned strychnine-drinking, snake-handling freaks that call themselves Christians. :headbang:

The simple fact that Scientology was created by L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer, makes it pretty crazy to me. I mean, what did he base his revelations on?

If I decided to randomly create a religion one day, it doesn't matter what it would be based on. It would be crazy.
I don't really know the details, but I assume L. Ron Hubbard claimed some otherworldy source for his inspiration just like the writers of all religious texts. The only difference I can see is in how recently he started the religion.

At level 7 you can do the kameameha blast.

Soon we will be able to overpower cell and save the world! Thank god for Tom Cruise and Scientology!

At level 7 you can do the kameameha blast.
Psh, if I wanted to do the Kamehameha blast (which I assume you were talking about) I would just go get some training from Master Roshi, though that would take 70 years.........hmmm, maybe training from Goku, it didn't take him that long! :p

I don't really know the details, but I assume L. Ron Hubbard claimed some otherworldy source for his inspiration just like the writers of all religious texts. The only difference I can see is in how recently he started the religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

It's kind of interesting, if you have the time.
For instance, Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life documents past lives as described by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. These included incidents such as being "deceived into a love affair with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl", being run over by a Martian bishop driving a steamroller, being transformed into an intergalactic walrus which perished after falling out of a flying saucer and being "a very happy being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago".

Not the kind of people I'd invite to a dinner party.

I don't really know the details, but I assume L. Ron Hubbard claimed some otherworldy source for his inspiration just like the writers of all religious texts. The only difference I can see is in how recently he started the religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

It's kind of interesting, if you have the time.
For instance, Hubbard's 1958 book Have You Lived Before This Life documents past lives as described by individual Scientologists during auditing sessions. These included incidents such as being "deceived into a love affair with a robot decked out as a beautiful red-haired girl", being run over by a Martian bishop driving a steamroller, being transformed into an intergalactic walrus which perished after falling out of a flying saucer and being "a very happy being who strayed to the planet Nostra 23,064,000,000 years ago".

Not the kind of people I'd invite to a dinner party.

I don't really know the details, but I assume L. Ron Hubbard claimed some otherworldy source for his inspiration just like the writers of all religious texts. The only difference I can see is in how recently he started the religion.

In the twenties, when Hubbard was just starting in his writing career, another colleague sarcastically told him "You have to make your own religion to survive in this business...". Hubbard, it seems, took it a bit too seriously.

EDITed to say that colleague, it seems, is his otherworldly source. :P

Also, Hubbard has been quoted saying there was no money in literature, the real money would be making your own religion.

Any relation to Old Mother Hubbard?

I don't know why, but I think that I'm about to throw up. Bleagh.

Aum Shinrikyo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

It's kind of interesting, if you have the time.


Not the kind of people I'd invite to a dinner party.
Thanks for the link - that was definitely an interesting read.

Anyway, i think it's clear beyond any doubt that the scientologists are nuts - but I challenge someone to explain to me what makes any of the major religions more sane.

Personally, I think that the christian conception of the afterlife is at least as nuts as anything I've read about scientology.

Personally, I think that the christian conception of the afterlife is at least as nuts as anything I've read about scientology.

Well, we never claimed to be the logical type. At least... in relation to the world's logic. :p

Work is a crazy religious commandment - like in 'Arbeit Macht Frei'

Work is a crazy religious commandment - like in 'Arbeit Macht Frei'

So by your implications then, it's only the religious people that should work, and all atheists/agnostics can opt out of it, eh? I wouldn't blame atheists for their stance if so. ;)

Buddhism
Taoism
Baha'i
Unitarianism
Quaker
Mormon

And just how is the Bahai Faith crazy? It makes way more sense then all the Christian, Jewish and Moslem sects out there. As a Bahai, I'm intrigued as to how our Faith is crazy.

Wierdest and possibly the best?

Why the Church of Tantra (http://www.tantra.org/) of course.

More info on Scientology: http://www.xenu.net/

nihilism...
sexual liberation movement...
discordiansim...
cult of kali.....
and yes the hare krishnas

I wouldn't say Nihilism is crazy... plenty of people point to it as an important transitionary state in their religious development, while others would claim to be 'neo-nihilists' in the vein of a less-strictured Humanist.

Oh yeah, I like Rastas. They're not allowed to drink or take drugs, but they all smoke the Ganja... what gives?!

The Heaven's Gate cult.

Like Lewis Black said, "WHen you're standing in the bathroom holding a weed whacker and your pecker, you'd think a little voice would say, 'Hey! Hey! Maybe this isn't the group for us! Maybe we should join a bowling team!' "

:)

nihilism...
sexual liberation movement...
discordiansim...
cult of kali.....
and yes the hare krishnas
Discordians aren't insane, we're outsane.

We've got like twenty-three times more fnords per quintic cubit than any other* spiritual belief out there! In fact, AC Nielson, a good friend of mine, rated it as America's #1.7 in-air door purifier.






*There are no exceptions, got your hopes up for nothing.... Hail Eris! Ia Cthulhu! Peanut-butter jelly!

The Hare Krishnas.

Now I have their damn creepy song stuck in my head.

SOMEONE HELP ME. :headbang:

The craziest religion? Scientology.

If it wasn't enough that these lunatics beleive a story that sounds like it came out of a ficiton novel (and... unsuprisingly was created by a famed fiction writer), but they also don't beleive in psychiatry. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of visiting shinks, but guys? If you lived a day in a house with my little brother you would not be able to deny chemical imbalances.

As for the whole paying your way to knowledge thing: And how is that any different from every other major religion? I mean.... the big three all ask for tithes... How are they different? The scientologists are just more honest about what they do.

But yeah... living with an ADHD brother and a chronically-depressed father, I have a lot of trouble with the (oh the irony) insanity taught as Scientology.

Which religion, would you say, is the craziest one out there. Not to offend anyone, but to find what most people think it is. I thought Evangelical Baptists, someone on another thread thought Jahovah's Witnesses, and I didn't want to hijack, so I'm making a new thread.
Wait... I'm going to change my answer to Scientology. It didn't occur to me at first, not being a real religion. But it's the better answer.

Sorry if anyone gets offended but its the Jewish Religion The Key Thing Is that THEY CANT EAT MEAT.But overall the people are pretty cool

They are all equally crazy...but I nominate Metaphysics and Quantum Theory. Talk about crazy stuff happening...

Sorry if anyone gets offended but its the Jewish Religion The Key Thing Is that THEY CANT EAT MEAT.But overall the people are pretty cool

So that's the worst thing you can imagine? geez...

Sorry if anyone gets offended but its the Jewish Religion The Key Thing Is that THEY CANT EAT MEAT.But overall the people are pretty cool

Okay, then, you obviously are quite ignorant...we Jews cannot eat pork or shellfish, but beef, chicken, etc...that's all fine. You really ought to do some research before just blabbing something like that out.

Which religion, would you say, is the craziest one out there. Not to offend anyone, but to find what most people think it is. I thought Evangelical Baptists, someone on another thread thought Jahovah's Witnesses, and I didn't want to hijack, so I'm making a new thread.

Christianity in general (with the possible exception of the more Gnostic forms of Christianity).

Christianity in general (with the possible exception of the more Gnostic forms of Christianity).

I knew someone would say it eventually. However, I seem to be taking it as flattery. ;)

*gives cookie of your choice*

Scientology, if you even consider it a "religion."

All religions are crazy in one sense or another, but at least as a Discordian I know I'm crazy.

And just how is the Bahai Faith crazy? It makes way more sense then all the Christian, Jewish and Moslem sects out there. As a Bahai, I'm intrigued as to how our Faith is crazy.



How can you accept all religions when half of them exclude every other one?

Scientology is so obviously about money, though. I don't see how anyone with half a brain could seriously believe it.

Scientology. You have to be insane to follow a religion created by a science fiction writer. I'm looking at YOU, Tom Cruise.
XENU!

And just how is the Bahai Faith crazy? It makes way more sense then all the Christian, Jewish and Moslem sects out there. As a Bahai, I'm intrigued as to how our Faith is crazy.

I don't see the point of it at all. You don't need to start a new faith to spout "peace, equality, tolerance" over and over again. Seriously, it sounds more like a hippie religion to me.

Scientology is even more absurd than Mormonism....and thats quite the statement.

How about those who follow the Apple Macintosh? :)

Anyway, i think it's clear beyond any doubt that the scientologists are nuts - but I challenge someone to explain to me what makes any of the major religions more sane.

Personally, I think that the christian conception of the afterlife is at least as nuts as anything I've read about scientology.

Well, here's what I think seperates Christianity from Scientology. I do not consider myself a Christian in the least, however, I do have many friends that hold Christian views which I believe to be very logical and sane.

For instance, many portions of the bible could be seen as crazy - creationism, the entire world made in seven days, walking on water, etc. But some of my friends view these stories as symbols which aren't to be taken literally.

Plus, I didn't live 2000 years ago, so I can't say for sure if the things some of these prophets wrote about ever happened or not. My guess would be most of them didn't happen, but I wasn't there, so eh.

L. Ron Hubbard's stuff can't really be construed as symbols, nor could we give him the benefit of the doubt for living 2000 years ago. That's why I'd count Christianity as being much less insane.

As for the whole paying your way to knowledge thing: And how is that any different from every other major religion? I mean.... the big three all ask for tithes... How are they different? The scientologists are just more honest about what they do.

Again, speaking from an outside point of view, the money taken from tithing is supposed to help with the upkeep of the church itself and to help the community. In theory, this is a good thing. But, of course, like any basically good thing, human nature finds a way to corrupt it. Also, in Christian churches, I don't believe it's a requirement for advancement to give a certain amount of money - they ask for what you can give.

Scientology asks for large sums of money so you can reach various stages of enlightenment, which is probably why it appeals to egomaniacal assholes like Tom Cruise. They have lots of money, so they spend it on a pretty piece of paper to tell them that they're much better than us mud folk who watch his movies. (I didn't mind War of the Worlds, though. ;) )

How can you accept all religions when half of them exclude every other one?

Its called Progressive Revelation. Each Prophet is one in a succesive line brought to Earth at various points in history to help mankind better understand God and become closer to God, especially in context of each region and historical period. The intolerance amongst other religions is a problem not of the Faiths themselves, but of people who have twisted religion to vest their power in it. They don''t want to tolerate other eligions because that would mean surrendering their powers over their follwers (thye would no longer be the only ones with "The Answers")

I don't see the point of it at all. You don't need to start a new faith to spout "peace, equality, tolerance" over and over again. Seriously, it sounds more like a hippie religion to me.


New Faiths promoting peace, equality and tolerance will be neccessary until mankind finally gets with program and stops hating, judging and killing eachother. If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Humans are pretty fantasticly stupid in their ability not learn from past mistakes, thus repition is neccessary.

Discordians aren't insane, we're outsane.

We've got like twenty-three times more fnords per quintic cubit than any other* spiritual belief out there! In fact, AC Nielson, a good friend of mine, rated it as America's #1.7 in-air door purifier.






*There are no exceptions, got your hopes up for nothing.... Hail Eris! Ia Cthulhu! Peanut-butter jelly!

5 tons of flax my friend. you know*. 1.7!!! that beats my friend's (josh shuffleburt) rating of 3.65810984623. also i think the church of "Bob" may dispute your fnordish claim about fnords.





*dont forget the ass hats! the dog days are here friends and cabbages! All Hail Discordia! lick the shoggoth, win a prize!!

Catholics are nuts. Where does their doctrine come from because the Bible seems to be only minor in what they teach. Of course their teachings have changed so much over the centuries that they teach much different things then before.

no one religion is any crazier than another