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White House Mum on Karl Rove Revelation (http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050710183509990003)

George Santayanna's warning about power has been once more unheeded and its consequence made known. Karl Rove, the political mastermind perhaps singlehandedly responsible for George Dubya Bush's rise to the White House, has become so intoxicated on success that he overstepped his own limitations in exposing Valerie Plame Wilson as an undercover CIA operative just to get back at Joe Wilson for not kow towing to Bush's "Iraq tried to buy Nuculars from Nigeria" campfire story.

Even the White House isn't vocally defending its mastermind with the same vigor and volume they were glad to blast all opposition with before, which says to me that even they can't see a way out of this mess.

Does anyone still want to apologize for and defend this soulless traitor who ought to end up the same as Ames and Altman if not fry altogether?

This is still the greatest story about Karl Rove

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2895

:D :D :D

I don't care whether its true or not but theres no smoke without fire ;)

Does anyone still want to apologize for and defend this soulless traitor who ought to end up the same as Ames and Altman if not fry altogether?

Expect to hear more crickets and tumbleweeds blowing past than heartfelt chest-thumping over Mr. Rove from the rabidly right-wing.

They don't usually belly up to the bar of unfiltered truth. They prefer to sit and order drinks from the patio of denial.

Sure, the reason the WH isn't defending Rove is because there's nothing to defend. Looking at the reporter's email makes me think Rove was trying tog et the Times not to write about the story. By the way, Rove never mentioned her name at all. As far as Wilson goes, the man simply wrote a scathing op-ed in the paper to attack Bush and help his book sales. Besides, the guys wife was the one trying to get him a job and she's been photoed in (I think) Vogue magazine. Could be wrong about which one but there was a full photo of her face at some party and she didn't seem too upset about this whole thing.

Keep drinking that koolaid and going after the "evil genius." You're making it that much easier for people to brand you as a conspiracy theroist...

I personally like his lawyers "defense": Rove didn't name her SPECIFICALLY, he just said "Wilson's wife." Geez, there is NO telling who he couldn't been talknig about, who knows how many wives West had :rolleyes:

Here you go:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek/

If anything, the lack of response to this thread to me anyways dismisses the myth of the NationStates forum being a bastion of Liberalism.

:rolleyes:

This is still the greatest story about Karl Rove

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2895

:D :D :D

I don't care whether its true or not but theres no smoke without fire ;)


I got AIDS from Karl Rove!

If anything, the lack of response to this thread to me anyways dismisses the myth of the NationStates forum being a bastion of Liberalism.

:rolleyes:

Insane really. But this issue just won`t go away. It has been buried under the cover of `national security issue`for more than two years by the administration but it looks like it is going to be fully revealed. In many countries this level of criminal malice involving national security disclosure from the top levels would bring down the government. But don`t hold your breath here. Let`s just hope Rove gets what he deserves.

I am amazed Robert Novak seems to have gotten off completely despite being the conservative partisan in the media who broadcast the CIA identity knowing full well the danger it would put on the operative.

I got AIDS from Karl Rove!

ahhh so it begins :cool:

Karl Rove killed my mother... And raped my father!

...In all seriousness, I say it's about fucking time something like this happened. I wonder how many years he'll get...?

...In all seriousness, I say it's about fucking time something like this happened. I wonder how many years he'll get...?

Feh. You think he'll get anything but a 'get out of jail free card'? I'll believe when I see it.

They don't usually belly up to the bar of unfiltered truth. They prefer to sit and order drinks from the patio of denial.

There is nothing about that sentence I didn't like.

Feh. You think he'll get anything but a 'get out of jail free card'? I'll believe when I see it.

If Rove gets off for basically compromising national security, then it'll be a cold day in Hell before another Republican, much less another Bush gets elected to the White House.

If Rove gets off for basically compromising national security, then it'll be a cold day in Hell before another Republican, much less another Bush gets elected to the White House.


Hell already froze over - that's how Bush and his demon horde got in in the first place.

This is still the greatest story about Karl Rove

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2895

:D :D :D

I don't care whether its true or not but theres no smoke without fire ;)

If it is true, then it's the greatest example of hypocrisy in the Bush administration to date. Rove's successful campaign tactics usually included smearing the opposing candidate as fag lovers who would convert everyone into homosexuality forcibly.

If Rove gets off for basically compromising national security, then it'll be a cold day in Hell before another Republican, much less another Bush gets elected to the White House.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, I'll believe that when I see it, as well. People talk about how Nixon ruined the reputation of the Republican party, and yet four short years after Tricky Dick flew off the White House lawn, there was an another Republican President.

With ruination downplayed to that extent, I'd expect an even greater Republican majority to be elected hot on the heels of Karl Rove being placed in a candy-assed, minimum-security Club Med for the "legally-challenged".

Poor Karl will have to make do with open-faced flans instead of pecan pies for oh... what, six months or so. Unless it's a suspended sentence, and he's stuck with whatever his personal chef dreams up. And even then, there'll still be some fatuous right-wing git in charge.

Hoo-frickin'-ray for democracy.

They don't usually belly up to the bar of unfiltered truth. They prefer to sit and order drinks from the patio of denial.

Well put. But unless I missed something we're still in the foyer of speculation and not yet in the bar of truth.

Well, don't forget ... there's always the Presidential Pardon. Almost all Presidents have had controversial pardons. Even George Washington pardoned leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion.

Well, don't forget ... there's always the Presidential Pardon. Almost all Presidents have had controversial pardons. Even George Washington pardoned leaders of the Whiskey Rebellion.

...Yeah, I thought there was something like that. So that isn't just a plot device from the movies, then is it?

There's his 'get-out-of-jail-free' card. Right there.

...Yeah, I thought there was something like that. So that isn't just a plot device from the movies, then is it?

There's his 'get-out-of-jail-free' card. Right there.

On the other hand, if and when Bush does pardon Rove for exposing a national security secret, then every Bushevik and Neocon loses moral grounds on to bitch at Clinton's pardons in turn.

Did we really expect anything less from the present horde in office? The entire Bush ascendency (to Texas governor and U.S. President) was an orchestration of lies and distortions (just ask Ann Richards in Texas.) This "anything goes" form of politics is eroding the remnants of democracy in our government.

This problem is magnified by the "lock-step," flag-waving mentality of the media and the "uber-patriotic" fervor of the voting electorate. It's a national tragedy, and will grow far worse before it ever becomes better.

THIS is the result of voting a 1.5 term state-governor and barely-capable politician into the highest office in the country.

Did we really expect anything less from the present horde in office? The entire Bush ascendency (to Texas governor and U.S. President) was an orchestration of lies and distortions (just ask Ann Richards in Texas.) This "anything goes" form of politics is eroding the remnants of democracy in our government.

This problem is magnified by the "lock-step," flag-waving mentality of the media and the "uber-patriotic" fervor of the voting electorate. It's a national tragedy, and will grow far worse before it ever becomes better.

THIS is the result of voting a 1.5 term state-governor and barely-capable politician into the highest office in the country.
what!?!?!?!?! you're just an America hating lib-dem communist crackpot. MOIVE TO FUCKDING FRANNCE!!!111111 this is why america [sic] is falling apart because of you liberals and your anti america propaganda like pbs and npr no fox news isnt republican propaganda thier liberal propaganda to just like everyother news place media organization outlet. John Lennon shot Kennedy. ZOOMMGGGGGG!!!!! [/sarcasm]

you don't know how many times ive stated that and got the above response.

you don't know how many times ive stated that and got the above response.

Shall I check? Nahh... take too long... Probably as often as it happens to me, Ach.

If Rove gets off for basically compromising national security, then it'll be a cold day in Hell before another Republican, much less another Bush gets elected to the White House.
You underestimate the power of the partyline voting block

Once again, you liberal dogs have accused a great man of betraying the greatest country in the world. This is just a liberal communist Nazi plot to destroy America and the President. Thats all you care about. Shame on you. You are the traitors, he is a patriot, and he can do and has done no wrong. If Hillary Clinton gets into office, she will let gays get married, take away my 7.62mm GE minigun in my kids treehouse, and encourage blacks to move into my neighborhood. i have pictures of her serving bin Laden from her own antique coffee service. Karl Rove is a great man. If I knew where he was right now, I would be down on my knees licking his balls.

Now lets see who fails to get it....
I bet that many, oh so many will....

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Now lets see who fails to get it....
I bet that many, oh so many will....

Well, count me in. I don't get it, not really.

There is speculation by the media that Rove may have done something illegal and wrong. Speculation.

If he did he should be fired and charged with whatever crime is appropriate. That's it.

Why the cynical gloating in advance of facts, people?

Because it would be sweet, oh so sweet irony if it were true.