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Anyone else bothered by spelling errors? Lets get somethings clear...

"rely" does not mean "really"

"truely" does not mean "truly"

So, you must know that it absolutely bugs me when someone says "rely an truely." Bleh. There's more things that bother me, I just saw that written earlier. Spell things right, please. It's not that difficult to refer to a dictionary or just Google.com to check spelling.

And one thing, technically not a spelling error, just ignorance on my part, what does "n00b" and such mean? Is there a thread somewhere that details what this mysterious term entails?

n00b is short for "newbie" meaning you are new to the forum or the game or whatever.

n00b is short for "newbie" meaning you are new to the forum or the game or whatever.

I always thought that "n00b" (with the zeros) had a more negative meaning (like an annoying new player/troll/TKer) while "newb" simply means someone is new. :confused:

I wear the name 'Grammar Nazi' with pride.

psht. Everyone makes spelling mistakes. It's those that have such inpenetrable spelling that it might as well be another language that annoy me. But not that much. Not enough to make a post in a thread about it.


Oops.

n00b is short for "newbie" meaning you are new to the forum or the game or whatever.

Not exactly. A n00b is one who has been around at something for a while, has had a chance to learn about something, and has failed miserably. A newbie is someone who's new to something, but that's it.

For the record, I loathe it when people abbreviate every bloody thing and can't be bothered to spell things properly.

I guess this can be put in here, does anyone else want to strangle the people who use Leet?

I guess this can be put in here, does anyone else want to strangle the people who use Leet?
OMG n00000000z!!!


:p :p

when people spell colour "color" ;)

I guess this can be put in here, does anyone else want to strangle the people who use Leet?

This is one of the few issues you have my full support in :)

Anyone else bothered by spelling errors? Lets get somethings clear...

Aherm ... "Let's get some things clear..."


There's more things that bother me

"There're"

You're welcome.

Aherm ... "Let's get some things clear..."




"There're"

You're welcome.
I was taught that the correct contraction in this instance would be 'they're'. Stupid Swedish schooling system!

"Anyone else bothered by spelling errors?" is a sentence fragment. I don't particularly care about that, though; Grammar to me makes the most sense when it matches both the intent of the sentence and the way we would orally state it.

Though yes, I'm both a spelling and a grammar stickler, (note the use of the Oxford Comma; it has its value, you know!) and therefore encourage you all to join the militant wing of the Apostrophe Appreciation Society! We carry sticky labels and marker pens around with us and correct misuse of our beloved punctuation mark (or spelling, if we can afford the labels)...

Errors dont bug me so much as lazyness.
EX: R u teh gramr nazi?
Seriously, SIX extra letters people, it cant be THAT hard. Oh, and switch the 'e' and 'h' in 'teh'.

What bugs me more than that is people who do things like:
"HA! You mispelled 'antidisestablihsamentarianism"! YOUR ARGUEMENT IS INVALID! I AM VICTORIOUS!"
Since when did spelling become a debate-point?
Oh...wait...since you started losing the debate!
>_<

I'll admit that some mistakes (especially things like choosing the correct form of either 'there, they're or their) are annoying, but I think you should also take into consideration that there are quite a few non-native speakers on NS.

Like me. :D

This is one of the few issues you have my full support in :)

You only support me in a few issue?! OH THE HORROR, THE HORROR!! I'm going to go run away and cry now..

hahahaha

I'll admit that some mistakes (especially things like choosing the correct form of either 'there, they're or their) are annoying, but I think you should also take into consideration that there are quite a few non-native speakers on NS.

Like me. :D
And apparently those who have actually studied and learned it as a foreign language seem to be the ones who make less mistakes because they try harder not to?

The worst thing still is the "there" vs. "their" vs. "they're". Those are not typos. Those are language mistakes. You're saying something you don't mean, and every time I'm reading one of those posts, it throws me off track 'cause I'm trying to make sense out of it. Which doesn't work, of course.

Oh, one more thing. There is a "n00b"-style-spelled word, 4 letters, which I haven't unterstood yet. Something like... hell, I can't even remember how to crazy-spell it... I believe it includes a "1"?

when people spell colour "color" ;)

Sorry, mate, that argument won't hold water. Were it pronounced the way you Brits (and Canadians) spell it, you'd pronounce it "koh-LOOR", as the French do. So you've kept a French spelling for no reason whatsoever. Mind you, I could care less, because there are many French loan words that retain their spelling in US English (restaurant, camouflage, pique, catalogue, and so on).

The only times I get upset at spelling gaffes (there's another Francism), is when I can discern their nature. Typos are easy to figure out because the letters are usually next to the correct one or they're reversed in order (like hellp for hello, aliong for along or knwo for know). It's the seemingly deliberate misspelling that has grown from IM and text messaging that sets my teeth on edge. It's as if those who use this abortive syntax have SO MUCH to say that they've got to compress in order to get it all across. Were that truly the case, I'd have no problem with it. However, it's usually along the lines of "OMG u did ur hair so cool 2day" or some such drivel.

More often than not, I give bad spelling and grammar the benefit of the dount. The only time I'll immediately jump is when someone is unreasonably critical about a mistake and then has several in their own criticism. THat reminds me of, say, tailgating speeders who curse out those who don't use their turn signals. Physician, heal thyself (or Biblically, check out the plank in your own eye before you go mocking the mote in another's).

Oh, and for the original poster, "n00b" isn't mysterious, it's elitist. It's a way for the ubergeeks who know all the rules to, for once in their pathetic lives, have an advantage over someone else. It is the mocking version of "newb".

Sorry, mate, that argument won't hold water. Were it pronounced the way you Brits (and Canadians) spell it, you'd pronounce it "koh-LOOR", as the French do. So you've kept a French spelling for no reason whatsoever. Mind you, I could care less, because there are many French loan words that retain their spelling in US English (restaurant, camouflage, pique, catalogue, and so on).


just a cheap dig at my American counterparts ;)

More often than not, I give bad spelling and grammar the benefit of the dount. The only time I'll immediately jump is when someone is unreasonably critical about a mistake and then has several in their own criticism. THat reminds me of, say, tailgating speeders who curse out those who don't use their turn signals. Physician, heal thyself (or Biblically, check out the plank in your own eye before you go mocking the mote in another's).

Can you guess what I'm about to say? =P

To give this some sort of point, though, pronouncing Colour without the u would, as far as I can tell, sound like either Coll-oor or possibly Cou-lor (as in Colon). If you want to change its spelling, at least make it look more like it sounds rather than less.

just a cheap dig at my American counterparts ;)

And I was just getting ready to color with honor in the center of some random place. ;)

And I was just getting ready to color with honor in the center of some random place. ;)

nice

I was taught that the correct contraction in this instance would be 'they're'. Stupid Swedish schooling system!

In this instance, he intends to say "There are more things that bother me" and would, thus, use the contraction "There're". He has used "There's" which shows "There is" and is improper use of plurals.

"There are things"
"There is a thing"

"They're" would be "They are" and wouldn't make sense at all. :)

Was the other confusing word 1337 by any chance? It stands for a pseudo-language used by some netizens to show how "elite" they are. Originally spawning from speaking in code, it has degenerated to drivel. It mostly consists of replacing letters with numbers, such as "l" by "1" and "e" by "3."

I don't mind the correct use of abbreviations, or even a highly chopped version of English, provided that something of substance is said.


Oh, and for the record,

411 j00 B453 r B310|\|6 2 m3!1!!!1!11!11!1

And one thing, technically not a spelling error, just ignorance on my part, what does "n00b" and such mean? Is there a thread somewhere that details what this mysterious term entails?
for terms like this and many others you cant work out, urbandictionary.com is amazing. excuse my spelling, i have failed english all my life and just cant do it. i try though i really do.

In this instance, he intends to say "There are more things that bother me" and would, thus, use the contraction "There're". He has used "There's" which shows "There is" and is improper use of plurals.

"There are things"
"There is a thing"

"They're" would be "They are" and wouldn't make sense at all. :)
Aahhh confusion :)

But, that's one thing to remember on this topic; not everyone on NationStates forums has English as their mother-tongue. I think that the people who go around endlessly correcting spelling errors are a little annoying. Of course, in a perfect world all of us would write on here in perfect English; but I don't think people should slight other peoples arguments or points on the grounds of spelling or grammar.... it detracts from the debate (which is why NS General is here in my opinion).

Not all spelling errors are truly spelling errors. There's differences between Austrailian English, British English and American english. For example, color is correct in American English but wrong in both Australian and British, which as far as I know spell it as colour. Also British use the word "lift" while Americans use "elevator" to describe the same thing. Pronounciation is different too, like "tom-ate-to" or "tom-mat-to". The English language began branching apart when the British first began establishing colonies hundreds of years ago and thus each different branch as variations.

Aahhh confusion :)

But, that's one thing to remember on this topic; not everyone on NationStates forums has English as their mother-tongue. I think that the people who go around endlessly correcting spelling errors are a little annoying. Of course, in a perfect world all of us would write on here in perfect English; but I don't think people should slight other peoples arguments or points on the grounds of spelling or grammar.... it detracts from the debate (which is why NS General is here in my opinion).

That's why I seek to educate, not belittle. :)

ROFL... I love gamer talk, its so freaking awsome since nobody understands it... And a noob is preety much someone that sucks at what he or she does.. If anyone calls you a noob, make sure to crack his neck :)

Sorry, mate, that argument won't hold water. Were it pronounced the way you Brits (and Canadians) spell it, you'd pronounce it "koh-LOOR", as the French do. So you've kept a French spelling for no reason whatsoever.
Hem, hem, the French word for color/colour is spelt 'couleur' and pronounced quite differently.
Why yes, I am a Language Fanatic, how come you've noticed?

Okay, I maybe new, but there are also a few things I'd like to add or agree on (which have been annoying me since I first started using the internet):
Leet is an abomination in my eyes (unless used mockingly/ironically, as a friend of mine who called her latest crush teh_new_crush).
Unnecessary abbrevation are just that, unnecessary.
And I'd like to add that I really can't stand it when someone uses some words or a phrase in a foreign language, completely messing up grammar and semantics as they go - regardless wether it's German which called rucksack 'bodybags' once or the and misuse abuse of German articles in English.

Quick Dictionary of almost all of the internet slang words and abbrevations used thus far in this tread for those who are not in the know. Disclaimer: Not all are exact translations.


laugh out loud (as in the person typing it is laughing): lol, lawl, rofl

elite: leet, 1337

beginner: nub, noob, n00b, newbie, noobie, newb

your: yur, ur

the: teh, da

exclamations (like: oh my god!): OMG,

you: j00, joo, u

"411 j00 B453 r B310|\|6 2 m3!1!!!1!11!11!1" (from Ilkland's post): All your base belongs to me! (this one strained my 1337 speaking abilities a bit)


There are more and if I feel bored enough I'll make another post to translate more for you guys =)

Was the other confusing word 1337 by any chance? It stands for a pseudo-language used by some netizens to show how "elite" they are. Originally spawning from speaking in code, it has degenerated to drivel. It mostly consists of replacing letters with numbers, such as "l" by "1" and "e" by "3."
I don't mind the correct use of abbreviations, or even a highly chopped version of English, provided that something of substance is said.

Oh, and for the record,

411 j00 B453 r B310|\|6 2 m3!1!!!1!11!11!1
Yes, that's the one. LEE... What?!? What's up with the "7"? Man, I still don't get it! Is that a "t"? Leet?

Oh, and it's "us". They belong to us... Your base... all of them!:D:D:D

Well, thank you for clearing that up for me. It is confusing sometimes!

Man, slow on the pickup and even slower replying... I need to grab some 5133|D indeed!

And I'd like to add that I really can't stand it when someone uses some words or a phrase in a foreign language, completely messing up grammar and semantics as they go - regardless wether it's German which called rucksack 'bodybags' once or the and misuse abuse of German articles in English.
Actually "Rucksack" is the German word for that thing you carry on your back. Just too bad some rucksack/backpack-producing company is stupid enough to label their product with an English word already in use for something completely different. That's pretty much Mitsubishi calling their car "Pajero" and then wondering why it doesn't sell well in Spanish-speaking countries. I mean, I wouldn't want to drive around in a car called "Wanker" either.
As for the misuse of German articles to make fun of whatever - I second that!

I can be quite tolerant of people that are trying to communicate in a language other than their native tongue. I work with a lot of Indian people and my new favourite word is "updation". Such as "here is my completed document including the updation after the review". Love it!! :)

But my pet hate, primarily from English speakers, is definately. No one pronounces it definately so why do they have to spell it that way???

I can be quite tolerant of people that are trying to communicate in a language other than their native tongue. I work with a lot of Indian people and my new favourite word is "updation". Such as "here is my completed document including the updation after the review". Love it!! :)

But my pet hate, primarily from English speakers, is definately. No one pronounces it definately so why do they have to spell it that way???
Ooh, great one!!! I definitely (see?) gotta remember that one: Updation. Great! :D

(And there is a big difference between learning and trying and just fooling around and mocking - I know. Been there. Still am sometimes!)

[QUOTE=German Nightmare]Actually "Rucksack" is the German word for that thing you carry on your back. Just too bad some rucksack/backpack-producing company is stupid enough to label their product with an English word already in use for something completely different. [QUOTE]
I think that's the thing that annoys me the most - if there's a perfectly fitting German word, but someone thinks there is still the need for a 'cooler' foreign word :rolleyes: (the fact that bodybag means what it does is just a highly entertaining side aspect).

This is an interesting topic...I find those german words kind of neat, like kindergarten. Then there is the case of color and morning and such that can probably be spelt (br.) / spelled (am.) either way. One thing that annoys me for some reason is when people doesn't spell God with a capital letter. Not that especially religious or anything, it's just an error. But the spelling is surprisingly different in br. english an am. english. Then there are those (like myself) who just strugle to find the right words, not being a native english speaker. :p

Spelling "God" with a capital letter depends on whether you are talking about "a god" that is one of many, or "God" as a name or title. God with a capital G is a proper noun and thus takes the capital, god with a lower case g is just a noun and threfore doesn't take the capital.

If you don't believe in god, it is therefore valid to refer to god as a concept using just a noun rather than a proper noun, and therefore the lack of capital letter is justified.

A good book on language rules is "Eats, Shoots & Leaves: The Zero Tolerance Approach to Punctuation" by Lynne Truss.

Book Description
Everyone knows the basics of punctuation, surely? Aren't we all taught at school how to use full stops, commas and question marks? And yet we see ignorance and indifference everywhere. "Its Summer!" says a sign that cries out for an apostrophe. "ANTIQUE,S," says another, bizarrely. "Pansy's ready", we learn to our considerable interest ("Is she?"), as we browse among the bedding plants.

In Eats, Shoots & Leaves, Lynne Truss dares to say that, with our system of punctuation patently endangered, it is time to look at our commas and semicolons and see them for the wonderful and necessary things they are. If there are only pedants left who care, then so be it. "Sticklers unite" is her rallying cry. "You have nothing to lose but your sense of proportion--and arguably you didn't have much of that to begin with."

This is a book for people who love punctuation and get upset about it. From the invention of the question mark in the time of Charlemagne to Sir Roger Casement "hanged on a comma"; from George Orwell shunning the semicolon to Peter Cook saying Nevile Shute's three dots made him feel all funny", this book makes a powerful case for the preservation of a system of printing conventions that is much too subtle to be mucked about with.

I think that's the thing that annoys me the most - if there's a perfectly fitting German word, but someone thinks there is still the need for a 'cooler' foreign word :rolleyes: (the fact that bodybag means what it does is just a highly entertaining side aspect).
Yes, true to some extend. Then again, you can't just label a product "product". You always give it a brandname. Have you seen any products that don't carry an extra brandname? Chocolate Bar? No, they all have (sometimes stupid) names. Besides, that particular rucksack comes with only one shoulder strap. They tried to give their uniqueness a name.

As for the spelling - I wish the keyboard of anyone who ignorantly misspells words should give the typer a little jolt! Bzzt :D