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Drugs are bad

Islamic Daingean
11-07-2005, 15:50
Mmmm-k.

It's true!
Nemonicus
11-07-2005, 15:55
Define "drugs"
Freedomfrize
11-07-2005, 15:58
define "bad".
Refused Party Program
11-07-2005, 15:59
Define "true".
Jibea
11-07-2005, 16:01
Drugs-noun-Plural of the noun drug.

Drug-noun-Any foreign non-food substance that enters the body

Now stop doing an impersonation of the person from South Park, that show is one of the worst ever created.
Islamic Daingean
11-07-2005, 16:03
Now stop doing an impersonation of the person from South Park, that show is one of the worst ever created.

I take it you dont understand satire and you're unable to appreciate anything that might have more than one level.
but that's ok...the world needs morons so the clerisy can be appreciated.
Jibea
11-07-2005, 16:03
Define "true".

True-verb- The opposite of false; anything that is correct
Bad-adjective/adverb-1. The opposite of good; unwanted. 2. The opposite of well.
Jibea
11-07-2005, 16:04
I take it you dont understand satire and you're unable to appreciate anything that might have more than one level.
but that's ok...the world needs morons so the clerisy can be appreciated.

I understand the satire, but it is a horrible show.
Islamic Daingean
11-07-2005, 16:07
I understand the satire, but it is a horrible show.

Why exactly?
Refused Party Program
11-07-2005, 16:08
I didn't even know we were referring to South Park.
Jibea
11-07-2005, 16:09
Why exactly?

Same reason I find music horrible, and actors/actresses. People like it so much, they impersonate it, which is annoying and anything annoying (like me ranting) is bad, which the show/person/song spawned therefore blame the spawner. I also dislike music/actors/actresses for other reasons. Mainly a money issue.
Jibea
11-07-2005, 16:10
I didn't even know we were referring to South Park.

I think he was impersonating a guidance counselor from the show.
The Serene Death
11-07-2005, 16:10
Drugs are not "bad", they are made bad by fearmongering politicians and newspeople, and have been since the Nixon administration. Drug abuse is more common with legal drugs (over the counter and prescription) than illicit drugs. Drug abuse is mostly caused by a need to escape stressful conditions such as poverty, not the cause of that many promote it as.

And as for legal drugs, they're just generally bad for you. Anti-depressants cause high rates of suicides in adolecents. ADD and ADHD are mostly a crock (some acctually suffer but they're usually ignored). ADHD stands for Already Did my Homework Dad. Those that acctually need treatments don't get them because we're all scared that we've got something wrong with our brain that needs to be chemically balanced. Honestly, the bigest drug dealers around are pharmaceutical companies, telling us they've got the pill that will solve all our problems.

So what you should say is that "legal drugs are bad, Mmmm-k."
Islamic Daingean
11-07-2005, 16:12
Same reason I find music horrible, and actors/actresses. People like it so much, they impersonate it, which is annoying and anything annoying (like me ranting) is bad, which the show/person/song spawned therefore blame the spawner. I also dislike music/actors/actresses for other reasons. Mainly a money issue.

What a ridiculously illogical reason.
Do you blame God for what happened on 9/11?
Islamic Daingean
11-07-2005, 16:13
Drugs are not "bad", they are made bad by fearmongering politicians and newspeople, and have been since the Nixon administration. Drug abuse is more common with legal drugs (over the counter and prescription) than illicit drugs. Drug abuse is mostly caused by a need to escape stressful conditions such as poverty, not the cause of that many promote it as.

And as for legal drugs, they're just generally bad for you. Anti-depressants cause high rates of suicides in adolecents. ADD and ADHD are mostly a crock (some acctually suffer but they're usually ignored). ADHD stands for Already Did my Homework Dad. Those that acctually need treatments don't get them because we're all scared that we've got something wrong with our brain that needs to be chemically balanced. Honestly, the bigest drug dealers around are pharmaceutical companies, telling us they've got the pill that will solve all our problems.

So what you should say is that "legal drugs are bad, Mmmm-k."

Heroin isnt legal. Heroin abuse is bad. Mmmm-k
The Serene Death
11-07-2005, 16:29
Heroin isnt legal. Heroin abuse is bad. Mmmm-k

Any drug abuse is badddddddd, legal or not. Mmm-k?

'cept for placebos. You can abuse them all you want, all it will do is make ya fat (after 1000 a day or so).
Daistallia 2104
11-07-2005, 16:36
Drugs are bad

Mmmm-k.

It's true!

No way. And it is absolutely not true. I take three drugs on a daily basis that allow me to simply continue breathing. Trust me, death by asthma is none too pleasant. :(

And as for legal drugs, they're just generally bad for you. Anti-depressants cause high rates of suicides in adolecents. ADD and ADHD are mostly a crock (some acctually suffer but they're usually ignored). ADHD stands for Already Did my Homework Dad. Those that acctually need treatments don't get them because we're all scared that we've got something wrong with our brain that needs to be chemically balanced. Honestly, the bigest drug dealers around are pharmaceutical companies, telling us they've got the pill that will solve all our problems.

So what you should say is that "legal drugs are bad, Mmmm-k."

Mmmmm - nope. Again, absolutely untrue. Unless you consider choking to death in an asthma attack to be somehow good. :( :mad:
Kryozerkia
11-07-2005, 16:42
It depends on what you use, how much and your physical susceptibility to the drug itself.

There are plenty of legal drugs which can prove to be addictive (such as tobacco and alcohol), and illegal ones, such as Marijuana have been shown to be not even marginally addictive. While affecting behaviour for s short period of time, it doesn't have the same left over effects that alcohol does - ie: no hangover.

Yes some are bad, but others aren't.

It's all relative.

After all, there are plenty of legal pharmacutical drugs, such as heart meds (Vioxx) which have deadly side affects in some cases; so why not ban them? Did not the government put that back on the shelf?
Pepe Dominguez
11-07-2005, 16:44
Drugs are not "bad", they are made bad by fearmongering politicians and newspeople, and have been since the Nixon administration. Drug abuse is more common with legal drugs (over the counter and prescription) than illicit drugs. Drug abuse is mostly caused by a need to escape stressful conditions such as poverty, not the cause of that many promote it as.

Nixon? Ever hear of prohibition? :rolleyes:
Pepe Dominguez
11-07-2005, 16:46
Mmmmm - nope. Again, absolutely untrue. Unless you consider choking to death in an asthma attack to be somehow good. :( :mad:

I think he meant ones that act on psychology in some way.
Alinania
11-07-2005, 17:11
-snip-
It's all relative.

Exactly.
After all, what qualifies as a drug? A lot is about how much of a substance you take, how often, etc. Drinking one glass of wine a day is even considered to be healthy, but drinking two bottles per night would be considered abusive.
(That next to the obvious usually quite positive 'side-effects' of medication.)
Xenazwolia
11-07-2005, 17:14
Point of interest about drugs:

Being stoned makes browsing the Nationstates general chat discussions very interesting. You people will start a debate over anything..
Daistallia 2104
11-07-2005, 17:46
I think he meant ones that act on psychology in some way.

If that's what either of them want to say, let them say it. As it stands, the OP says "Drugs are bad." and The Serene Death says "Legal drugs are bad." Both statements are, at least as I understand the words "drugs" and "bad", incorrect . ;)
The Serene Death
11-07-2005, 23:25
Nixon? Ever hear of prohibition? :rolleyes:
I ment the fearmongering that the news media and every president since him has created against drugs. He acctually got the editors and heads of news organizations and asked them to help him fight against illegal drugs on April 9, 1970. Since then every president has been hard on drugs, otherwise they wouldn't be president (you can't be the prez if you're soft on drugs).

If that's what either of them want to say, let them say it. As it stands, the OP says "Drugs are bad." and The Serene Death says "Legal drugs are bad." Both statements are, at least as I understand the words "drugs" and "bad", incorrect . ;)
Ok, you've got me. I forgot to say that psyc drugs are in general bad for you or don't help you at all. I generalized that all legal drugs are bad. Make one mistake and they tear your head off ;)

Some of those drugs acctually help people out, but many who take them are not helped. Many see the comercials on TV and think that taking this new drug will make them happy all the time and get rid of all their worries. Stupid Clinton, allowing the drug companies to comercialize medical drugs. Most kids that are treated for ADHD or similar problems like "oppositional deficit disorder" are going through adolecent rebellion.
German Nightmare
11-07-2005, 23:49
Drugs-noun-Plural of the noun drug.

Drug-noun-Any foreign non-food substance that enters the body

Now stop doing an impersonation of the person from South Park, that show is one of the worst ever created.

Like air?!?
Deleuze
11-07-2005, 23:54
Now stop doing an impersonation of the person from South Park, that show is one of the worst ever created.
Dude. DUDE! Lacking sense of humor much? South Park is brilliant!
Jays people
12-07-2005, 00:39
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And as for legal drugs, they're just generally bad for you. Anti-depressants cause high rates of suicides in adolecents. "

what the hell do u think u are talking about ??? I'm manicdepressive myself and eaten lithium for 3 years and been ok, thanks to my medication. Drugs don't push people over the edge to commit suicicide, it's because their depression gets worse because the drugs don't always work even with combined to regular therapy.
The saying "people might commit suicide while taking this drug" in psyche drugs leaflet is there beacause always depressed people can't be cured and they might commit suicide as their depression gets worse. U got some bad misinformation... :sniper: :eek: :eek:
Ashmoria
12-07-2005, 01:01
psychological drugs have saved many lives and have improved the quality of life for many more. any prescription drug can be misused. gotta be careful eh?
The Serene Death
12-07-2005, 02:26
Lithium has been a staple of the antidepressants for generations and has always been good. Zoloft and Prozac are much newer antidepressants (known as SSRIs or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors), that under studies done by researchers show the drugs to greatly increase feelings of agiation and the creation of a suicidal feeling (10% of the study showed these results). This study was 2 weeks long and several members had to be taken off the drugs before the end of the study before they tried to kill themselves. These people had no psycological instability, they weren't suffering from depression,selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors they were all volunteers.

Remember, these companies make their drugs for one reason: it makes them money. They won't do it otherwise. If they wanted to they could give people placebos in order to increase profits, but then they'd have to worry about fraud suits. If a drug has side effects that might not show up, then they won't mention it. These companies are not your friends, no matter how much they say.
Lashie
12-07-2005, 02:45
Mmmm-k.

It's true!

I believe you :D
Dontgonearthere
12-07-2005, 02:47
Mmmm-k.

It's true!
WRONG!
Meth and Heroin have NO negative side effects. At all.
Lashie
12-07-2005, 02:51
what the hell do u think u are talking about ??? I'm manicdepressive myself and eaten lithium for 3 years and been ok, thanks to my medication. Drugs don't push people over the edge to commit suicicide, it's because their depression gets worse because the drugs don't always work even with combined to regular therapy.
The saying "people might commit suicide while taking this drug" in psyche drugs leaflet is there beacause always depressed people can't be cured and they might commit suicide as their depression gets worse. U got some bad misinformation... :sniper: :eek: :eek:

Calm down, don't shoot people cause they've been misinformed... :rolleyes:

Welcome to NS btw :fluffle:
The Serene Death
12-07-2005, 03:00
Calm down, don't shoot people cause they've been misinformed... :rolleyes:

Welcome to NS btw :fluffle:
Not misinformed, just not specific (a flaw I have in debating). Please see my explination above.