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why do girls reject me

Nucazuki
11-07-2005, 08:12
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 08:17
Do you ask them out?
Greater Valia
11-07-2005, 08:19
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

You're wrong. For some reason beyond me girls seem to like assholes who dont treat them right but will confide in you "as a friend". ERRRGH Im so lonely... :(
Salarschla
11-07-2005, 08:20
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

How old are you?
3 months is the average time of infatuation, after that one start to notice flaws in the other and there the relationship usually end.
Sabbatis
11-07-2005, 08:24
Women like someone strong and decisive and will tolerate a lot of bad behaviour to get it. But sweet and sensitive once in a while is great! Be a good listener foremost.
Eddier
11-07-2005, 08:25
Your wang isn't large enough, women can sense these things subconsciously..
Dmytri
11-07-2005, 08:27
Girles do like sweet and sensitive guys but they think those qualities are boring. I've seen girls who go out with jerks just to have some "excitement" in their lives and I'm not kidding.
And I've seen guys who are just complete idiot to their wonderful girlfriends and ends up being lonely tending their pathetic little gardens. It's hilarious to see them like that.
Spaam
11-07-2005, 08:28
How old are you?
3 months is the average time of infatuation, after that one start to notice flaws in the other and there the relationship usually end.
In that case, only one relationship lasted past infatuation for me...
Tannenmille
11-07-2005, 08:28
Girls reject you because you think people on the internet can solve your problems.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 08:35
Be yourself. You can't carry a false image...if chicks don't like it, screw 'em. Most of them are biologically programmed to want the wrong kind of guys...at least in their younger times. Only after repetitive trial-and-error do they learn that Bad Boy is not very reliable.

Just hold out for a while.
Neiraleste
11-07-2005, 08:37
Girls reject you because you think people on the internet can solve your problems.

Exactly.
Leonstein
11-07-2005, 08:38
Just hold out for a while.
:D
Spiel Mit Mir
11-07-2005, 08:38
sif ask women

just befriend them and they will like you ok

and i have never had a girlfriend ok

/me leaves to go to the brothel

OMG JOKING OK


maybe you arent a sexy bitch like myself
Dmytri
11-07-2005, 08:45
Sweet and sensitive guys are usually nerds and they tend to be very shy around girls. I think the attractive factor in guys for most girls is charisma and a great sense of humor but that goes for girls as well.
Nucazuki
11-07-2005, 08:49
Sweet and sensitive guys are usually nerds and they tend to be very shy around girls. I think the attractive factor in guys for most girls is charisma and a great sense of humor but that goes for girls as well.


im not shy though i like just talk and listen to em but they tell me that thats why they dump me



by the way im the guy that started this thread
Ellanesse
11-07-2005, 08:49
I can definitely agree with the 'girls want the bad boys' thing for a while... probably you can blame that on movies. We date the mean ones and the jerks and the guys who are 'exciting' until we get hurt like a dozen times and we realize we deserve better than that. Then we go find someone who makes us laugh, and who is sweet and kind and romantic and loving, and those are the ones we pick for the forevers. Some girls are smarter and/or luckier and never go through the bad guy phase, but they're few and far between, and some girls never get out of it - get stuck with some jerk and be miserable for the rest of their lives - but I would tell you to be confident in yourself, be accepting of yourself, and you'll meet a girl who's lookin for the good stuff and suddenly you're a 'keeper'

:) Good luck
Sino
11-07-2005, 08:49
Hey kid, maybe you need to learn marksmanship and show 'em that you're a man. Best to show pictures of your hunting ability and kills.

I don't know if that's gonna work since I've never had a girlfriend either. LOL!
The Flipflop Bandanas
11-07-2005, 08:56
Confidence bro, it's all about confidence. Gals can smell instantly a guy without confidence. Sensitive and confident is a hard combination, but it's quite powerful. Sensitive without confidence comes off as weak.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 08:59
Hey kid, maybe you need to learn marksmanship and show 'em that you're a man. Best to show pictures of your hunting ability and kills.

I don't know if that's gonna work since I've never had a girlfriend either. LOL!

Yea...show her a picture of a gutted, skinned fish that you shot with a BB gun and say, "I hope you like sushi!"

Anyways, everything I know about girls can be summed up in one word, indecisive. Girls are pressured to look good, eat little, and dress according to the media's superficial standards. Not only you, but every other guy out there is attracted to the superficial standards. But like everyone else is saying, Bad Boys are kinda the thing right now.

In my opinion, from what I've seen, girls are just as insecure as us guys. Often times, they can't decide who they'd rather be with, even though a type of guy like you is better. Girls you should stay away from are those that are afraid about what other people would think of you two going out. Only care about what you think.

So without really saying anything new..., don't become a 'bad boy' (that's a really wierd term floating around here) just perhaps find new ways of attracting girls. Witty observations can make people just as exciting as anyone else.
Bleenie
11-07-2005, 09:04
Girls are pressured to look good, eat little, and dress according to the media's superficial standards. Not only you, but every other guy out there is attracted to the superficial standards.

ask a goth that.. mr all knowing
Valosia
11-07-2005, 09:07
I've always thought there was an biological insecurity in women that forces them to seek out alpha males or to try to attract as many men in order to sooth the ego. Spending part of my vacation with four teen girls (family friends) really confirmed that for me.

If one girl picked up a dude, the others would try to one up. If one made out with one, the other would try to bag another boy from the group. They seemed to abhore the concept that sometimes, your friends'll get some and you won't.

Luckily, some of them start growing out of that after the real world smacks them in college. Others get worse.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:07
ask a goth that.. mr all knowing

I said pressured, not always following.
In my opinion goth's are awesome. The last freeminded people I've met in awhile.
The Similized world
11-07-2005, 09:08
1. Stop looking. You'll never find anything worthwhile that way

2. People get uncomfortable around insecure guys

3. You're not bisexual, so quit your pathetic whining!
Kellarly
11-07-2005, 09:09
Your mother owes me 10 bucks

Or you owe his mum 10 bucks... [/joke]
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:10
Or you owe his mum 10 bucks... [/joke]

Shh...you're ruining it >.>
heh
BobEPeru
11-07-2005, 09:11
I can definitely agree with the 'girls want the bad boys' thing for a while... probably you can blame that on movies. We date the mean ones and the jerks and the guys who are 'exciting' until we get hurt like a dozen times and we realize we deserve better than that. Then we go find someone who makes us laugh, and who is sweet and kind and romantic and loving, and those are the ones we pick for the forevers. Some girls are smarter and/or luckier and never go through the bad guy phase, but they're few and far between, and some girls never get out of it - get stuck with some jerk and be miserable for the rest of their lives - but I would tell you to be confident in yourself, be accepting of yourself, and you'll meet a girl who's lookin for the good stuff and suddenly you're a 'keeper'

:) Good luck
Ha ha ..most girls do go for the bad guy because they want the "bad guy with the heart of gold". They want a guy that will go brutal on a nemises but will treat their woman kind. I know this because this was my game. Even this type that women chase has its flaws (guys like me don't tend to be loyal, at all- it's that whole "heart of gold" that is the trick)
Eternal Rainstorm
11-07-2005, 09:12
Any guy who's attractive can pick up girls regardless of his attitude. That goes for the females too.
BobEPeru
11-07-2005, 09:13
Attitude is almost everything.
It really is.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:14
Any guy who's attractive can pick up girls regardless of his attitude. That goes for the females too.

Depends on the guy or girl who's being picked up.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 09:16
Any guy who's attractive can pick up girls regardless of his attitude. That goes for the females too.

There's a difference between picking up and keeping. I have a male friend who as far as guys go, makes the chicks go nuts. But he is so effeminate when it comes to gender relations that after a couple hours they drop him like nothing.
Undelia
11-07-2005, 09:17
1. Stop looking. You'll never find anything worthwhile that way

Very wise words.

2. People get uncomfortable around insecure guys

The problem occurs when people mistake apathy for insecurity.

Any guy who's attractive can pick up girls regardless of his attitude. That goes for the females too.

Yep.
Sino
11-07-2005, 09:17
Yea...show her a picture of a gutted, skinned fish that you shot with a BB gun and say, "I hope you like sushi!"

Now that I won't f*ckin' do! Firstly, being Chinese, why would I promote Jap food? I was suggesting that maybe he should shoot a buck and present her the picture.
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 09:19
The cynicism in this thread is suffocating.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 09:21
1. Stop looking. You'll never find anything worthwhile that way.

Doing nothing guarantees failure.

The cynicism in this thread is suffocating.

I agree.
Splott
11-07-2005, 09:22
They like a challenge of moulding someone to their own taste so a social pariah is more likely to attract than a pillar of society.
A sure fire way of attracting 80 % of women without fail is MONEY.
Women know how to spend it and will offer to spend it for you.
The other option is a large pen (nudge nudge wink wink) if you know what I mean.
A different tack is to pretend to be gay as they somehow seem to feel safe around gays and you might be able to take advantage at a vulnerable moment. Also they like to think they have what it takes to turn a gay straight.

Failing all that learn how to dance well. Women like dancers.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:23
Now that I won't f*ckin' do! Firstly, being Chinese, why would I promote Jap food? I was suggesting that maybe he should shoot a buck and present her the picture.

Hey man, I was only joking. I didn't mean any offense.

It might impress some girls, depending where you lived.
And I like sushi. Are you full-blooded Chinese?
I'm half Turkish.
Tannenmille
11-07-2005, 09:23
The cynicism is so thick that you could cut it with a knife, even though you truly couldn't as cynicism isn't tangible and thus isn't able to be malformed by an edged piece of kitchen cutlery.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:25
The cynicism is so thick that you could cut it with a knife, even though you truly couldn't as cynicism isn't tangible and thus isn't able to be malformed by an edged piece of kitchen cutlery.

But damn it goes good on chicken!
Mike-achusetts
11-07-2005, 09:26
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

This site will clue you into the so-called "nice guy" mindset. Don't fool yourself. It's not that women are simply crazy, or shallow, or only interested in "jerks." If you have a problem with women, look to yourself for the answer. Yes, there are girls out there who are crazy, shallow, and interested only in jerks, but you have no control over that. You do, however, have control over your attitude and your sense of self. This series of articles could help you understand that falling into the "sensitive, nice guy" mold is just as much a sham as the "arrogant, obnoxious guy" mold.

Oh, and don't think you are alone in this. You are going through the same thing that thousands, perhaps millions of guys (including me) have gone through before you. It's okay. It's normal. And it is fixable. Probably not overnight, but it is fixable. I'm still working on it, and I expect that I'll be working on this problem for quite a while.

Read the articles. They were a watershed for me. I hope they help.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:26
Cynicism is humor, but wrapped in a shiny wrapper of death.
Bleenie
11-07-2005, 09:26
Good thing he's not you because...

Your head is eternally shoved up your ass
You're probably lashing out because of some repressed childhood memories
Your mother owes me 10 bucks

So what if my moms a whore?
The Arch Wobbly
11-07-2005, 09:26
Doing nothing guarantees failure.


Sorry, but that's BS.
Hamanistan
11-07-2005, 09:26
Who needs a girlfriend? You can still get laid without one so...whats the point in having one?
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 09:31
http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml

This site will clue you into the so-called "nice guy" mindset. Don't fool yourself. It's not that women are simply crazy, or shallow, or only interested in "jerks." If you have a problem with women, look to yourself for the answer. Yes, there are girls out there who are crazy, shallow, and interested only in jerks, but you have no control over that. You do, however, have control over your attitude and your sense of self. This series of articles could help you understand that falling into the "sensitive, nice guy" mold is just as much a sham as the "arrogant, obnoxious guy" mold.

Oh, and don't think you are alone in this. You are going through the same thing that thousands, perhaps millions of guys (including me) have gone through before you. It's okay. It's normal. And it is fixable. Probably not overnight, but it is fixable. I'm still working on it, and I expect that I'll be working on this problem for quite a while.

Read the articles. They were a watershed for me. I hope they help.

I love that site.
Poliwanacraca
11-07-2005, 09:33
Some of the comments here on what attracts women to men are just funny.

1. Very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he's hot.
2. Very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he's wealthy.
3. Very, very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he has a big dick. Honestly, I have yet to meet a woman who cares about penis size 1/10 so much as does the owner of the penis.

Better ways to get women to actually stay with a guy for the long haul include:
1. Real commitment to the relationship.
2. A compatible sense of humor.
3. Generosity of time and of spirit.
4. Basically just being a decent and honest human being.

Not too complicated, really. Although some people had a very good point that many people of both genders are stupid and fall for people who are terrible for them - my most recent ex cheated, lied, and verbally and physically abused me, and I somehow managed to justify adoring him. People = stupid.
Sanctaphrax
11-07-2005, 09:34
Seriously, I'm starting to think he's just trolling now. He's started about ten threads about how he's lonely and needs a girlfriend, yet only replies to each thread once or twice. *sigh*
I hope he's a troll, either that or someone with absolutely no life.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 09:35
Sorry, but that's BS.

I'm of the mindset that good stuff doesn't magically happen. Some people can get away with it, most don't. The guys who get the numbers, the dates, and the ass are the guys who approach the girls. They make it happen.

Waiting for events to just "happen" and "fall into place" is a horrible precedent for anything one does.
BobEPeru
11-07-2005, 09:35
If you didn't get it, play "bad guy with heart of gold"
It may not be true, but who effing cares, because when you are at the end of your days, you can say you had an blast of a time for it.
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:35
Some of the comments here on what attracts women to men are just funny.

1. Very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he's hot.
2. Very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he's wealthy.
3. Very, very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he has a big dick. Honestly, I have yet to meet a woman who cares about penis size 1/10 so much as does the owner of the penis.

Better ways to get women to actually stay with a guy for the long haul include:
1. Real commitment to the relationship.
2. A compatible sense of humor.
3. Generosity of time and of spirit.
4. Basically just being a decent and honest human being.

Not too complicated, really. Although some people had a very good point that many people of both genders are stupid and fall for people who are terrible for them - my most recent ex cheated, lied, and verbally and physically abused me, and I somehow managed to justify adoring him. People = stupid.

This might very well be the most intelligent thing written here all night.
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 09:35
To cut one off of Parratoga:

http://www.somethingpositive.net/arch/sp02142004.gif
Undelia
11-07-2005, 09:36
2. Very few women will actually stay with a guy simply because he's wealthy.

I think what you meant to say instead of “Very few” was “Most."
Eternal Rainstorm
11-07-2005, 09:36
Nice to meet you. Now you know one woman who cares about penis size.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 09:39
I think what you meant to say instead of “Very few” was “Most."

HAHAHAH.

Definitely true. Women will ride that horse into the ground.
Poliwanacraca
11-07-2005, 09:39
Nice to meet you. Now you know one woman who cares about penis size.

*laughs* Okay. I always figured there had to be a few. Pleased to meet you, too. :)
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 09:39
Nice to meet you. Now you know one woman who cares about penis size.

You care about the size of a guy's penis? Why? Other than guys that are way too small or way too huge, why does it matter?
Poliwanacraca
11-07-2005, 09:40
This might very well be the most intelligent thing written here all night.

*blushes* Why, thanks! :)
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 09:42
*blushes* Why, thanks! :)

You're welcome. This is a never-ending argument, but at least someone can give me faith that personality means something to people.
BobEPeru
11-07-2005, 09:43
Nice to meet you. Now you know one woman who cares about penis size.
And a girl that claims not to care are being nice, or inexperienced.
It's not that every girl needs a horse. In me experience, being a dead-on average guy, some girls are shaped different that others. Some girls in some possitions is too much. I've been with tiny waifs with room to spare in missionary, which was surprsing.
The Similized world
11-07-2005, 09:50
I'm of the mindset that good stuff doesn't magically happen. Some people can get away with it, most don't. The guys who get the numbers, the dates, and the ass are the guys who approach the girls. They make it happen.

Waiting for events to just "happen" and "fall into place" is a horrible precedent for anything one does.
I've had a fairly decent amount of relationships, two of them over 4 years.

In my experience, looking for a long-term relationship is the only certain way not to get one. Sure, you'll find lots of partners, but people who just fall in love with who & what you are, won't if you're on the prowl. And it's not that strange if you stop to think about it.

So if you want love - real love - stop looking. I don't think I've ever met anyone who found a long-term relationship when they were looking for one. Such things only happens when you least expect it.

Still, there's a lot to be said for short affairs, and you won't have many of those if you're not seeking them out.
SoulSnax
11-07-2005, 09:50
If you are an Asian guy, then that's your problem right there. Women prefer white guys, even in Asia.

If you think I'm joking, let me ask you something... Do you EVER see Asian guys on TV or in the movies portrayed as sex symbols? Do they EVER get laid in movies or on television? Of course not. Have you ever seen a "Mail Order Groom" website with lots of hot Asian guys? Of course not.

I don't think I need to elaborate much further. You already know what I'm trying to tell you.

My advice to you is to view this movie, and follow the example of what this character did. It will change your life: SLANTED (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/soulsnax/Slanted.mov)

You'll need QuickTime. For some reason, the movie clip begins with a ten second set of colored bars, followed by ten seconds of black. Just be patient, it's an insightful story.
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 09:51
If you are an Asian guy, then that's your problem right there. Women prefer white guys, even in Asia.

If you think I'm joking, let me ask you something... Do you EVER see Asian guys on TV or in the movies portrayed as sex symbols? Do they EVER get laid in movies or on television? Of course not. Have you ever seen a "Mail Order Groom" website with lots of hot Asian guys? Of course not.

I don't think I need to elaborate much further. You already know what I'm trying to tell you.

My advice to you is to view this movie, and follow the example of what this character did. It will change your life: SLANTED (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/soulsnax/Slanted.mov)

You'll need QuickTime. For some reason, the movie clip begins with a ten second set of colored bars, followed by ten seconds of black. Just be patient, it's an insightful story.

Yeah, women hated Bruce Lee.
Tannenmille
11-07-2005, 09:57
And of course the Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, Japanese, etc. cultures are propagated by European men and Asian women, not Asian men and Asian women.
Valosia
11-07-2005, 10:01
So if you want love - real love - stop looking. I don't think I've ever met anyone who found a long-term relationship when they were looking for one. Such things only happens when you least expect it.


For most guys who have these troubles I recommend getting out there. It's a numbers game. We meet a lot of people in day-to-day life. Don't expect relationships with a vast majority, but you certainly have more flexibility and a greater chance of finding someone to be compatible with. I think the problem with a lot of these guys is that they don't place themselves in situations where they can meet a decent number of people with similar interests to at least make things a bit easier.

I think we can at least agree to disagree, as we both have methods we are comfortable with and have worked for us. In my experience getting out there helped me the most so I encourage that.
Bleenie
11-07-2005, 10:04
What you've just performed is an act called doublethink. This means that you tell yourself a lie and then make yourself believe it is true. Even the act of doublethink is forgotten. To even think about doublethink requires the use of doublethink.

In other words, you are denying and repressing memories without knowing you are. There are doctors that can see you, really. Lashing out at others is a sign of internal discontent and I'm afraid your discontent runs far deeper than anyone else here.
My grandfather was a judge, my dads a pipe fitter and gets paid great, my mom is the boss at her work and gets paid great. Whats there to deny?
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 10:12
If there were nothing neither to repress nor deny, then your outward lashings may be considered psychotic. Perhaps the happiness of your family is an illusion. Perhaps you don't exist. Your own existence thriving off your own conciousness that could be winked out at any minute. That's neither here nor there. I hold that theory for everyone, including myself.

Regardless, the fact that you feel a need to abuse others to give yourself a morale boost shows that you are insecure and think people will like you if you try and make other people seem lower than yourself.

All I can ask is for you to stop. It is neither healthy nor agreeable to eminate such negativity.

Hey Freud, you do know that you're flamebaiting to the nth degree and you could easily get in trouble if someone reported it, right?
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 10:21
Would you like me to slit my wrists?

no
Death Incarnates
11-07-2005, 10:23
Hey Freud, you do know that you're flamebaiting to the nth degree and you could easily get in trouble if someone reported it, right?

I was only trying to defend the creator of this thread...then it deviated into something else.
Tsaraine
11-07-2005, 10:29
Bleenie - official warning for flaming.

Death Incarnates - official warning for flaming.

Both posters have been forumbanned for three days.
BobEPeru
11-07-2005, 10:39
Good Grief!
What of us that are former infamous trolls from dead message boards?!
I'm not starting trouble or questioning the rules, but that was a pretty-candy-flame if ever I have seen one. In full Bob character I would have been banned in 20 minutes on this board. Just sayin'
Is there an out for "good natured flaming" : meaning annoying, but nonmalicious stuff allowed? I've played NS before, but I'm new to the board, and I'm amazed at the reaction to flames.
The Similized world
11-07-2005, 10:59
For most guys who have these troubles I recommend getting out there. It's a numbers game. We meet a lot of people in day-to-day life. Don't expect relationships with a vast majority, but you certainly have more flexibility and a greater chance of finding someone to be compatible with. I think the problem with a lot of these guys is that they don't place themselves in situations where they can meet a decent number of people with similar interests to at least make things a bit easier.

I think we can at least agree to disagree, as we both have methods we are comfortable with and have worked for us. In my experience getting out there helped me the most so I encourage that.

Heh, nope. I think we can agree to agree. We just misunderstood eachother. Shit happens when people are different.
I (not right now, but normally) live a very active life, and spend as much time as I can with likeminded people. I always hang out with a lot of different people, and naturally, I talk to them.

The difference I was talking about is; if I'm actively looking for someone, I (at least I think I) project an image of myself that I find appealing. But that image doesn't nessecarily corrospond with my real, normal personality.
I've noticed everyone does that, and it doesn't suprise me in the least. If nothing else, it's perfectly natural we try to display our own virtues :cool:

So what I meant was: It's easier for people to relate to you, when you're just your own stupid self. So naturally, the great relationships will find you when you aren't looking.
Of course, if you don't normally socialise, and you don't dig Jehova's Witnesses, that approach won't work :p
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 11:59
Ooh, this is a topic I know well, being the master of being rejected. Let's have a look at some of the responses, shall we?

How old are you?
3 months is the average time of infatuation, after that one start to notice flaws in the other and there the relationship usually end.

This is very true. Also holds true in cases where one person "likes" the other but there's no actual relationship. After three months, they'll move onto someone else.

You're wrong. For some reason beyond me girls seem to like assholes who dont treat them right but will confide in you "as a friend". ERRRGH Im so lonely... :(

Uh-huh.

1. Stop looking. You'll never find anything worthwhile that way

Yes, yes.

2. People get uncomfortable around insecure guys

Ah, but this part is untrue. There are girls attracted to insecure guys.

Ha ha ..most girls do go for the bad guy because they want the "bad guy with the heart of gold". They want a guy that will go brutal on a nemises but will treat their woman kind. I know this because this was my game. Even this type that women chase has its flaws (guys like me don't tend to be loyal, at all- it's that whole "heart of gold" that is the trick)

That can work on women who like the tough guy thing. It's not truly being an arsehole, because you'll treat them well anyway. They might be in for a pleasant shock. Not the tactic i'd use, though, 'cause i'd feel uncomfortable and it wouldn't work.

Any guy who's attractive can pick up girls regardless of his attitude. That goes for the females too.

They can pick up, but they won't have a decent relationship if they have a shitty attitude. Yet it doesn't hold true in all instances. There are plenty of highly attractive people with average looking partners. Take a look around. The proportion increases with the age of those involved, as well.

They like a challenge of moulding someone to their own taste so a social pariah is more likely to attract than a pillar of society.
A sure fire way of attracting 80 % of women without fail is MONEY.
Women know how to spend it and will offer to spend it for you.
The other option is a large pen (nudge nudge wink wink) if you know what I mean.
A different tack is to pretend to be gay as they somehow seem to feel safe around gays and you might be able to take advantage at a vulnerable moment. Also they like to think they have what it takes to turn a gay straight.

Failing all that learn how to dance well. Women like dancers.

This is all terribly wrong. Generalisations abound. Not all, or even most women are after these criteria. Different women are attracted to social pariahs and pillars of society. Not all women are after guys with big wallets. And how are they going to know if you have a big cock? Are you going to wave it around in their faces? I think if you get to the stage where they've seen your penis, you've done something else correctly. The whole "gay" thing is also bullshit. "Take advantage at a vulnerable moment", eh? As if any relationship would last when the woman realises what an arsehole you were to do such a thing. That would probably occur on the morning after, but quite possibly the same night. But hey, if you'd rather have a night of sex and ruin a friendship that could last for years, then be my guest.

Furthermore, women who can't dance don't like dancers. :)

If you are an Asian guy, then that's your problem right there. Women prefer white guys, even in Asia.

Bullshit. I know of several asian male/australian female relationships.


SO!

Let's think about it. You're a self professed "nice guy", eh? Wrong.

If you are only friends with a girl because you secretly want a relationship out of it, you are not a nice guy. You are anything but, because you're lying to yourself and her. You are not being genuine. You are a friend because you want something. And women aren't stupid. They will realise this soon enough. If you've been turned into a friend that gets all of her problems dumped upon you...this is a symptom of her realising (often subconsciously) that you have a thing for her. And she does for you too...but solely on an intellectual level.

Now, this isn't to say that friends cannot blossom into a relationship. It can and does happen, but it's pretty rare and really depends on both parties seeing eachother as equals, which won't happen if one is hopelessly infatuated with the other. Sadly, for this reason, once you're at the "intellectual whore" level, it's probably impossible. For whatever reason, and it's probably subconscious too, despite seeing they can't see you as a romantic interest.

And it isn't to say that it's exclusively a female thing. I really don't think there's that big a difference in perception of relationships between the sexes. I've done it to girls. Funnily enough, I never showed interest in them for whatever reason, yet I knew they were attracted to me- but I kept them around as people to talk to when i'm feeling down, or want advice, or whatever (because a female perspective on things is often helpful :))...but this was all subconscious, not realising what I was actually doing. Ergo it may be possible to turn the tables on women who do this to you by doing the same to them, yet it's probably not a nice guy thing to do, and you're a nice guy, right? right. So forget about showing any prospect of a relationship and if you're truly friends rather than mutual intellectual whores, it'll go back to normal and you'll treat eachother fairly.

It took me asking several female friends out and the subsequent collapse of a few otherwise healthy friendships to realise all this.

See, what you really need to do is just forget about showing interest to any women you know for a lengthy period of time. Then, if you're old enough, go to a nightclub or something, and just on a whim, go and chat up someone. They're probably there because they're looking for someone as well, after all. If you're still in school, maybe go and chat to that geeky but cute girl sitting in the corner one day. You never know. Just don't forget there is no template for what women want. Every woman is an individual and looking for something different. Just be yourself and you'll find someone.

So why am I still single? Because i'm a conceited butt-munch who thinks he has all the answers. But that's a different problem altogether. :D
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:01
SO!

Let's think about it. You're a self professed "nice guy", eh? Wrong.

If you are only friends with a girl because you secretly want a relationship out of it, you are not a nice guy. You are anything but, because you're lying to yourself and her. You are not being genuine. You are a friend because you want something. And women aren't stupid. They will realise this soon enough. If you've been turned into a friend that gets all of her problems dumped upon you...this is a symptom of her realising (often subconsciously) that you have a thing for her. And she does for you too...but solely on an intellectual level.

Now, this isn't to say that friends cannot blossom into a relationship. It can and does happen, but it's pretty rare and really depends on both parties seeing eachother as equals, which won't happen if one is hopelessly infatuated with the other. Sadly, for this reason, once you're at the "intellectual whore" level, it's probably impossible. For whatever reason, and it's probably subconscious too, despite seeing they can't see you as a romantic interest.

And it isn't to say that it's exclusively a female thing. I really don't think there's that big a difference in perception of relationships between the sexes. I've done it to girls. Funnily enough, I never showed interest in them for whatever reason, yet I knew they were attracted to me- but I kept them around as people to talk to when i'm feeling down, or want advice, or whatever (because a female perspective on things is often helpful :))...but this was all subconscious, not realising what I was actually doing. Ergo it may be possible to turn the tables on women who do this to you by doing the same to them, yet it's probably not a nice guy thing to do, and you're a nice guy, right? right. So forget about showing any prospect of a relationship and if you're truly friends rather than mutual intellectual whores, it'll go back to normal and you'll treat eachother fairly.

It took me asking several female friends out and the subsequent collapse of a few otherwise healthy friendships to realise all this.

See, what you really need to do is just forget about showing interest to any women you know for a lengthy period of time. Then, if you're old enough, go to a nightclub or something, and just on a whim, go and chat up someone. They're probably there because they're looking for someone as well, after all. If you're still in school, maybe go and chat to that geeky but cute girl sitting in the corner one day. You never know. Just don't forget there is no template for what women want. Every woman is an individual and looking for something different. Just be yourself and you'll find someone.

So why am I still single? Because i'm a conceited butt-munch who thinks he has all the answers. But that's a different problem altogether. :D

Shaed is rubbing off on you, sir.
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 12:09
Shaed is rubbing off on you, sir.

Nah, we're just clones. :p
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:10
Nah, we're just clones. :p

And here I was expecting some sort of sexual pun on "rubbing". Now I'm dissapointed. You are clearly not Shaed's clone.
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 12:13
And here I was expecting some sort of sexual pun on "rubbing". Now I'm dissapointed. You are clearly not Shaed's clone.

Oh, believe me, I thought it. Just....no. Bad.

*scrubs brain with acetone*
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:14
Oh, believe me, I thought it.

But anyone can THINK it. She would have said it. And then probably something else really weird. And I would have laughed.
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 12:19
But anyone can THINK it. She would have said it. And then probably something else really weird. And I would have laughed.

Yeah, but being a male clone of her, I've learnt the valuable skill of self preservation, specifically towards my testicles, which would probably be removed should she ever read it.
St Heliers
11-07-2005, 12:23
Well this thread has been very enjoyable to read but unfortunately i can't help you dude, just to say that some girls like some guys and others dont. Its all personal opinion.

Or maybe you just suck with girls :p
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:24
Yeah, but being a male clone of her, I've learnt the valuable skill of self preservation, specifically towards my testicles, which would probably be removed should she ever read it.

I wouldn't worry. She doesn't seem to get on much anymore.

Unless she's on right now....

*looks around*
Neo Zeta
11-07-2005, 12:24
I have trouble with girls my self. Tho i look like a girl lol. Long hair in pony tail but hair is long in the front too.

Dont have boobs so they think i am a flat chesed girl lol.

My voice sounds like a girl and some of my japaness style robes make me look like a girl. Yeah the one that shows one of my legs really dose. No body hair and i look small.

However i can fight pretty good and use a sword somewhat.

I guess its my girlish looks that make it hard for me to find a girl ^^;;.

However i have had one befor for around a year.

But hey atleast its funny to trick people into thinking i am girl.

And is it weird i wear lipstick and some face paint alot. I try to look like Jakotsu alot so it really makes people think i am crazy when they find out i am a guy.

But i can kick ass so i guess i am manly enough.
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 12:27
I wouldn't worry. She doesn't seem to get on much anymore.

Unless she's on right now....

*looks around*

Mmm, true.

-and by the way, observe how I spent 8 minutes coming up with a reply to your original post. You think I didn't try to be witty? :p-
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:34
Mmm, true.

-and by the way, observe how I spent 8 minutes coming up with a reply to your original post. You think I didn't try to be witty? :p-

Good point. But now you've got me all paranoid thinking you might be Shaed posting from your name.
Magnetic Island
11-07-2005, 12:41
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

This topic is seriously stupid! You probably have 3 or more of these problems. You're a very quiet person, don't get out, nerd, freak, sauk, Gay, don't stick up for yourself, try to be something you're not, or shy. Seriously, why ask people online for advice? If you're that desperate ask a mate or something. You must be VERY desperate if you're asking people on the net to solve your problems. Being desperate might freak out chicks. You are trying to hard!

Seriously movies are to blame for this sort of thing. In movies they show representations of teenagers they shouldn't. Chicks like bad boys. But do you notice how bad boys get out they and have fun with their mates. They don't have a 'cute' crush on chicks. I am sure a lot of girls are disturbed by that... :rolleyes: Anyways, in the movies girls end up with the nice guys. As some people have said here, that's how it will end up for you. IT MOST LIKELY WON'T! They are just representations that the contructor has written.

Anyway, don't try so hard. Act yourself, you'll meet someone some day. Maybe. :( You just need a lot of confidence and all the qualities you have now. Just don't be insecure.

But that's just me.
Kanabia
11-07-2005, 12:44
Good point. But now you've got me all paranoid thinking you might be Shaed posting from your name.

>.>

*flees*
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 12:47
>.>

*flees*

dun dun DUNNNNNNN!!!!!!

I heart Shaed.
Satanic Life
11-07-2005, 12:51
Be yourself. You can't carry a false image...if chicks don't like it, screw 'em. Most of them are biologically programmed to want the wrong kind of guys...at least in their younger times. Only after repetitive trial-and-error do they learn that Bad Boy is not very reliable.

Just hold out for a while.



Can I just say- if chicks don't like you, how exactly DO you screw 'em, beyond rape? There is no logic in that comment.
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 13:01
Can I just say- if chicks don't like you, how exactly DO you screw 'em, beyond rape? There is no logic in that comment.

Haha, I get it. "Screw" is slang for "have sex with". And there are no other possible meanings. You're so funny.

Despite what you may think, you're not original, or witty.
Parasektosemofluids
11-07-2005, 13:19
Take up Necrophilia. there's no hassle. she can dress up in whatever you want her to. Plus you don't have to worry about the 3 month declining period.

Why did god make me so clever? :D
Undelia
11-07-2005, 13:48
But i can kick ass

You do whatever creepy stuff you want, if you can back it up, who cares.

Take up Necrophilia. there's no hassle. she can dress up in whatever you want her to. Plus you don't have to worry about the 3 month declining period.

That is just disgusting… and illegal.
Tropical Montana
11-07-2005, 14:00
They like a challenge of moulding someone to their own taste so a social pariah is more likely to attract than a pillar of society.
A sure fire way of attracting 80 % of women without fail is MONEY.
Women know how to spend it and will offer to spend it for you.
The other option is a large pen (nudge nudge wink wink) if you know what I mean.
A different tack is to pretend to be gay as they somehow seem to feel safe around gays and you might be able to take advantage at a vulnerable moment. Also they like to think they have what it takes to turn a gay straight.

Failing all that learn how to dance well. Women like dancers.


Splott, either you are very young or very cynical, or you hang around with some really, really shallow girls.

Sure, some women are attracted to money. But those girls won't love you for your money, they will USE you for your money. Any girl worth her salt won't take any more from you than she is willing to give. That goes for men too. (and believe me, there are plenty of men looking for a 'sugar-mama' out there.)

So don't listen to Splott. He obviously has never had a GOOD relationship.

And as for Sino's suggestion that you use dead animals...well that's just crazy. I had one guy on a first date show me the doves he had killed, and RIPPED ONE'S HEAD OFF right in front of me. Needless to say, i never went out with him again. His whole house was filled with stuffed dead things . Bleah.

I agree with the people that are telling you to just be yourself, have confidence in your good qualities and be secure in your world (car, job, place to live).

It doesn't matter if you go on a thousand first dates that fizzle to nothing. The ONE that is your perfect fit will stick around. Infatuations burn out in three months. Enjoy them, but don't get too attached until after 3 months.
...any man or woman can keep up a facade for three months. Never give out your PIN number, your credit card, or the key to your house till AT LEAST month 4. Six is better.
Hamanistan
11-07-2005, 14:41
Take up Necrophilia. there's no hassle. she can dress up in whatever you want her to. Plus you don't have to worry about the 3 month declining period.

Why did god make me so clever? :D


LMAO :p
Sdaeriji
11-07-2005, 14:46
Never give out your PIN number, your credit card

I wouldn't be giving these two away to anyone you're not married to, to be honest.
Rankeror
11-07-2005, 14:49
can you help me girls :(
You need cool hair like me!
Iztatepopotla
11-07-2005, 14:56
Get yourself a Harley and a leather jacket. When a girl comes by and says "OMG, those things can kill you!!!" then you say "yeah, but we all gotta die." then pause for effect and add "are you getting on or what?"
Aogawa
11-07-2005, 15:08
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

A bloke's reply.
Cruel paraphrasal of South Park response: Girls reject you because you're the sort of person who, when you're worried about girls rejecting you, you come onto a forum like THIS and ask complete strangers from around the globe why girls reject you!
You're being a PUSSY!

Helpful response: If girls reject you, step back, take a long look at
yourself and ask "what about me could girls want to reject?" "Is it me or
is it them?"
It might be a physical level i.e. they think you're not MAN enough. If you honestly think this to be the case, then step away (yes, AWAY :) )
from the computer and spend a few months at the gym, martial arts school or some sport that you enjoy (that, and these venues can be IDEAL places to meet women!)

But it may be more COMPLEX than that. What are the interests of the young women that you're asking out? Are they interested in what you're interested in? Maybe you've just got bad timing and EVERY woman that you ask out has just had something BAD happen to them relationshipwise, and don't want you in their life IN THAT WAY right at this very moment.

A third possibility: how are you coming on to these women? More to the point, how are you coming across to these women? i.e. how do you imagine they perceive YOU?

That and many other possibilities (many that have possibly been covered already in the numerous replies before mine).
The boldly courageous
11-07-2005, 15:31
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(
Well the 3 month mark seems to be your bane. It could be as simple as you haven't met Mrs Right....so it was a good thing for the break ups. Or it could be that you are moving too slow or too fast...It could be that you are not as kind and sweet as you think. ;)
Women do btw like sweet guys as long as it doesn't mean they are clingy/mama's boys. The do however like to see a guy treat their mom well... just not spinelessly following her every dictate.
My suggestion is to work on yourself to be the best person you can be. So when you finally find Mrs. Right, or she finds you, you will be ready.
Tannenmille
11-07-2005, 17:54
Mrs

That would entail an affair now, wouldn't it? Him getting it on with "Mrs." Right?
Jester III
11-07-2005, 17:58
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(
Well, most girls dont like whiny guys and a lot appreciate a semblace of higher education.
Nerion
11-07-2005, 18:15
This might help you. 9 mistakes men make with women. I didn't write this and I don't know this guy's name, but I believe it and most people in this forum probably will too..



Here Are The Top Nine Reasons Why Men Fail With Women—And How To Make Sure YOU Avoid Every One Of These Deadly Common Mistakes...

MISTAKE #1: Being
Too Much Of A “Nice Guy”

Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?

Of course you have.

Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"... but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.

What's going on here?

It's actually very simple...

Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.

And guess what?

Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.

And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.

I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT... but GET OVER IT.

Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.

MISTAKE #2: Trying To
“Convince Her To Like You”

What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she's just notinterested?

Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.

Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!

Never, ever, EVER.

You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".

Think about it.

If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?

But we all do it.

When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.

Bad idea. One that will never work.

MISTAKE #3: Looking To Her
For Approval Or Permission

In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".

Another HORRIBLE idea.

Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them... EVER.

Don't get me wrong here.

You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.

But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.

You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.

Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her...

MISTAKE #4: Trying To “Buy” Her Affection With Food And Gifts

How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.

Well guess what?

It's only NATURAL when this happens...

That's right, I said NATURAL.

When you do these things, you send a clear message:

"I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.

MISTAKE #5: Sharing
“How You Feel” Too Early In
The Relationship With Her

Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

Attractive women are rare.

And they get a LOT of attention from men.

Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE TIME.

An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

And guess what?

Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.

That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

They know what to expect.

And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.

Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

There's a much better way...

MISTAKE #6: Not “Getting” How Attraction Works For Women

Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.

When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

But does the same apply for women?

Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.

Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?

Think about it.

Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men... and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.

If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.

And ANY guy can learn how...

MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It
Takes Money And Looks

One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.

And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.

But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.

There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet...

And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.

YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.

Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

MISTAKE #8: Giving Away
All Of Your Power To Women

Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.

Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.

Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.

Another bad idea...

Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over... Women aren't attracted to Wussies!

MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing
EXACTLY What To Do In Each
Type Of Situation With Women

Now I'm going to blow your mind...

A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.

Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.

I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!

And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating...

Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical... everything.

If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up... and LOSE EVERYTHING.

And you KNOW it.

It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman... from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom.
Neo Imperial Germany
11-07-2005, 18:37
:sniper: EVERYONE STFU OR ILL KILL YA :P

ok from what i learned the reason girls dont like you is cuz from what you told us that your sensitive i take it that you make moves on girls alot and touch them and tell there friends that you like them pretending to think that there not gonna tell there friend but really you know they are
so dont do none of that shit
here are the rules in my life i came apon alot of girls and i could have asked them out but i am shy but the point it is can make a girl like you

RULES
1: act like a friend , not like you like her but slowly and rarely put in some moves , like hug her and stuff

2: never be a lil bitch and tell her friends that you like her

3: women loves confidence

4: get a job no one wants to live off there parents

5: if your not getting any pussy dressing like a rocker that means that your not cut out for that , change your self for example i dressed like a rocker now i dress like a prep thight shirt baggy shorts the works

6:try to act like a cool person , one she can hang out with if your not funny ,do stuff funny (PLAN IT IN YOUR HEAD , MAKE SURE IT FITS THE MOMENT, RUN OVER THE PLAN AGAIN, analzye your friends and be liek hmm jennifer loves to laugh when old ppl get hit by busses , use that information to your advantage)then do the funny thing.

7:Work out (girls love a body)

8:Never talk to the girl that you like liek this "man im so lonly i just wish someone would go out with me "that makes you look like a pussy

9:in class make friends , if you act funny the girls in class will like you and then once you got them you can basically do what ever the fuck you want
once you got the girls act like you run the class

10: DONT FUCK UP, chill out , relax, be you , follow what i said

note : and dont say im ugly , no one is ugly except really ugly ppl there is something on your body that you can adjust to make yourself look better
if you have acne 1.SEE A FUCKING DOCTOR ,OR BUY SOME CREAM. Try a new hair style, Brush your teeth and tounge, think about body modifications (like think would you look better with a earing ) stuff like that

FOLLOW THAT AND YOU GET THE LADIES
El Porro
11-07-2005, 19:32
This thread is making me lusty.. Just about over the last girlfriend, so time to start going back on the prowl..

It was a hot day today, and as I was on the tube home, I was just gazing at tits all the way. I have titwatching days where I just feel like checking out nice girls' bosoms. Like, all day. It's not a pervy or chauvanistic thing, it's just an aesthetic appreciation, occurring randomly about once a fortnight.. And being a warm-blooded male, I just really like tits. :D

I have ass days too.

Oh, and I feel I should point out at this stage that, having known a lot of girls, and having known a lot of girls, that they aren't as different as some of these posts are making out. (I said 'making out', hee hee..) Girls are not alien taskmasters or royalty, and should not be feared or analysed like a lab specimen. They have the same worries, neuroses and weak spots as guys. They're human.

They also (and this is a big secret apparently, so I'm putting my life at risk here by telling you this, the Sisterhood will lynch me..) love sex. :eek:

Yeah.

They talk about it just as much as we do - but with a difference. Guys often brag all the time about how they shafted so-and-so for hours and hours and hours, and make suggestive comments all day long - and are therefore considered to have a greater interest in sex than girls. Nuh-uh. Not the case, bragging is the couisin of insecurity (as a wise man probably slurred into his pint), and men feel the need to live up to masculine ideals of prowess whether or not they tell the truth, so it's often empty and devoid of any real interest in the matter. Girls, however, when they talk about it amongst themselves, have to be interested to talk about it, and when they do, they do it with gusto! Filthier stuff than blokes, oftentimes.. :blush:

Girls love cock. Sometimes any cock will do (if you live in Essex anyway). They love it. They try and make out they're not interested, but they are, often more than we menfolk are. For example, there is a vast biological gulf. They can have multiple orgasms, we can squeeze out maybe three in a night if we're really really on form.. Otherwise, one and zzzzzz...

But I'm digressing. Where was I?

Oh yeah, if you can't get a girlfiriend, buy a watermelon, a coring knife and some porn. Legend has it it's like the real thing. I dunno, how's your imagination?
Ashmoria
11-07-2005, 20:00
If you are an Asian guy, then that's your problem right there. Women prefer white guys, even in Asia.

If you think I'm joking, let me ask you something... Do you EVER see Asian guys on TV or in the movies portrayed as sex symbols? Do they EVER get laid in movies or on television? Of course not. Have you ever seen a "Mail Order Groom" website with lots of hot Asian guys? Of course not.

I don't think I need to elaborate much further. You already know what I'm trying to tell you.

My advice to you is to view this movie, and follow the example of what this character did. It will change your life: SLANTED (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/soulsnax/Slanted.mov)

You'll need QuickTime. For some reason, the movie clip begins with a ten second set of colored bars, followed by ten seconds of black. Just be patient, it's an insightful story.
uh

KEN WATANABE

*quivers*
Sino
12-07-2005, 00:47
Are you full-blooded Chinese?

Full-blooded Han Chinese with a family history tracing back to 1000BC. I'm so proud of that, I feel like they should appoint me as a concentration camp commandant to eliminate all those sorry-ass Taiwanese separatists (who were bastardized by the Japs).

Well, I just have to rip that off Nazism. LOL!
Sino
12-07-2005, 00:51
And as for Sino's suggestion that you use dead animals...well that's just crazy. I had one guy on a first date show me the doves he had killed, and RIPPED ONE'S HEAD OFF right in front of me. Needless to say, i never went out with him again. His whole house was filled with stuffed dead things . Bleah.

That man's got problems then. I never advised the boy to be too graphic about kills. I certainly do not condone actual specimens for presentation, especially the winged rats- pigeons.

Hunting is a very noble hobby, but killing in such a gruesome manner cannot be regarded as gentlemenly.
Eastern Coast America
12-07-2005, 00:55
Chicks dig the good looking guys.
Never the ones who work their ass off.

Oh, and Sino.
You suck.
Marrakech II
12-07-2005, 00:56
Women like someone strong and decisive and will tolerate a lot of bad behaviour to get it. But sweet and sensitive once in a while is great! Be a good listener foremost.


This is true. You have to learn to live a little dangerous maybe. Take up some extreme sport so that you look exciting. But I would suggest that you metally think of what you want to be. If you want to be exciting and crazy which alot of girls like. Then you need to be that guy. I use to be that nice guy. Still am sometimes. But it is ok to be a guy sometimes. Guys do stupid and crazy crap. Also I would grab a girl that knows style. A friend or what have you. Ask her for help for a style makeover. You would be suprised at how much a woman will help you in that way. Get some new threads, new attitude and things should fall into place.
The boldly courageous
12-07-2005, 01:02
That would entail an affair now, wouldn't it? Him getting it on with "Mrs." Right?
Hmmm... I think you are right lol... I meant when you meet miss right and make her you Mrs. right :)
Sino
12-07-2005, 01:04
Despite the near-Hitlerite nationalist retoric, I hate to admit that I'm only attracted to White chicks. Further hinderence, other than being Chinese, is my ugliness. The only 'attractive' feature I possess is a bloody good posture. I also dress poorly, as I seem only suited for military uniforms (which I'm no longer entitled to) or suits (which there are few occassions suitable).
Slovakastania
12-07-2005, 01:09
Simple. You are the type of person who will post about this on a roleplaying forum. :rolleyes:
The boldly courageous
12-07-2005, 01:09
Despite the near-Hitlerite nationalist retoric, I hate to admit that I'm only attracted to White chicks. Further hinderence, other than being Chinese, is my ugliness. The only 'attractive' feature I possess is a bloody good posture. I also dress poorly, as I seem only suited for military uniforms (which I'm no longer entitled to) or suits (which there are few occassions suitable).

Well as far as looks are concerned ... some women actually prefer intelligence, charm, and kindness...but it is true most people have an initial attraction due only to looks. Though as was said before by someone else and I have to agree I have seen plenty of attractive women with men who were not attractive.
Marrakech II
12-07-2005, 01:14
I have seen plenty of attractive women with men who were not attractive.


I would consider myself an average looking guy. Not ugly by no means. But my wife is damn good looking. Not just saying that cause she is my wife either. But I think the thing that I have is that I do crazy sports and also travel alot. Which both of those things are exciting. Therefore I bagged on above my normal range. It can be done, trust me.
Sino
12-07-2005, 01:17
Well as far as looks are concerned ... some women actually prefer intelligence, charm, and kindness...but it is true most people have an initial attraction due only to looks. Though as was said before by someone else and I have to agree I have seen plenty of attractive women with men who were not attractive.

I've got intelligence, even if I'm not smart about certain issues, I can still act smart (that's something I was born with). However, my outward appearance and speech seems cold and regimented, some people think I give them the creeps or something. I tend to model my posture on Chiang Kai-shek and Hitler.

By mentioning Hitler, please note that I have next to no facial hair. And I certainly have no intentions of modelling on his moustache in the future.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Adolf_Hitler_Bigger.jpg/460px-Adolf_Hitler_Bigger.jpg

http://www.law.harvard.edu/library/collections/special/exhibitions/portrait_exhibit/Kai-shek_Chiang.jpg

I'm not sure of what charm is. I do have a sense of humor, but it's either dirty, racist or political, or a good combination of all three!
The boldly courageous
12-07-2005, 01:17
I would consider myself an average looking guy. Not ugly by no means. But my wife is damn good looking. Not just saying that cause she is my wife either. But I think the thing that I have is that I do crazy sports and also travel alot. Which both of those things are exciting. Therefore I bagged on above my normal range. It can be done, trust me.
totally agree .... and congrats :)
The boldly courageous
12-07-2005, 01:19
I've got intelligence, even if I'm not smart about certain issues, I can still act smart (that's something I was born with). However, my outward appearance and speech seems cold and regimented, some people think I give them the creeps or something. I tend to model my posture on Chiang Kai-shek and Hitler.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Adolf_Hitler_Bigger.jpg/460px-Adolf_Hitler_Bigger.jpg

http://www.law.harvard.edu/library/collections/special/exhibitions/portrait_exhibit/Kai-shek_Chiang.jpg
Hmmm your posture might be a problem then.... you may be doing to good an imitation and giving people a vague feeling of foreboding.
Sino
12-07-2005, 01:26
Hmmm your posture might be a problem then.... you may be doing to good an imitation and giving people a vague feeling of foreboding.

I'm proud of my posture but I pity my height. If I'm a good six-footer, I would be a suitable candidate for the Chinese Honor Guard.

http://www.defense.gov/news/Jul2000/20007122b.jpg

One thing I don't understand is how could an ugly bastard like Hitler be attractive to women of the time. A good deal of evidence was collected in Ronald Hayman's 'Hitler and Geli' (which I have recently read).
The boldly courageous
12-07-2005, 01:31
I'm proud of my posture but I pity my height. If I'm a good six-footer, I would be a suitable candidate for the Chinese Honor Guard.

http://www.defense.gov/news/Jul2000/20007122b.jpg

One thing I don't understand is how could an ugly bastard like Hitler be attractive to women of the time. A good deal of evidence was collected in Ronald Hayman's 'Hitler and Geli' (which I have recently read).

He had charisma... than he had power.
Sino
12-07-2005, 01:37
He had charisma... than he had power.

I meant that even before he came to power. There was the anecdote of some blonde chick meeting him at a party, walked up to him and kissed him on the lips. Hitler of course, simply walked out, departed for the evening.

During this period, he was known to carry a whip and wear jackboots in public, despite the fact that he had never mounted a horse. The OSS profiled him to be a sado-masochist.
Unified Japan
12-07-2005, 02:04
Be yourself. You can't carry a false image...if chicks don't like it, screw 'em.

Hey, woah, let's not encourage anything illegal. No means no.
Sino
12-07-2005, 02:09
Hey, woah, let's not encourage anything illegal. No means no.

LOL!
Lashie
12-07-2005, 02:49
You sound a but arrogant to me (no offence) but most sensitive guys I've met don't know they're sensitive :rolleyes:

Anyway, just try to have some fun, make friends with girls and don't stress, one day you'll find the girl that's right for you and she's the only one you need to worry about going out with...

Or you could just ignore me and continue being miserable, your choice :p
Sino
12-07-2005, 03:56
You sound a but arrogant to me (no offence) but most sensitive guys I've met don't know they're sensitive :rolleyes:


I'm a man who's not hesitant to admit that he's arrogant. I sometimes enjoy my arrogance as it gives me a sense of pride to cover up that miserable life I've got.
Lashie
13-07-2005, 11:01
I'm a man who's not hesitant to admit that he's arrogant. I sometimes enjoy my arrogance as it gives me a sense of pride to cover up that miserable life I've got.

lol, fair enough... I have my own share of arrogance at times... :rolleyes:
Fachistos
13-07-2005, 11:04
you arrogant bastards! thou shalt burn in the thy flames of hell!
uh, just had to.
Lashie
13-07-2005, 11:19
you arrogant bastards! thou shalt burn in the thy flames of hell!
uh, just had to.

uh, yeah that one... oh and if you're condemning us to hell then aren't you being a bit hypocritical with teh whole arrogance thing...
Harlesburg
13-07-2005, 11:26
You should know by now
"GIRLS DONT LIKE LICE GUYS!"

Its my understanding you should pretend to be someone other than who you are for the first coupleof dates.

Then when they think they like you wham out comes your real personality but they are commited and you've got them.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
Lashie
13-07-2005, 11:34
You should know by now
"GIRLS DONT LIKE LICE GUYS!"

Its my understanding you should pretend to be someone other than who you are for the first coupleof dates.

Then when they think they like you wham out comes your real personality but they are commited and you've got them.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

Y'know what Harlesburg, I think you should calm down, take a few deep breaths and I don't know, try to act normal or something.. :p
Commie Catholics
13-07-2005, 12:08
lol, fair enough... I have my own share of arrogance at times... :rolleyes:

At times? Little more than 'at times'.
Taldaan
13-07-2005, 14:17
Well, girls are attracted to three things.

Looks- This one should be obvious. It means muscles and stuff
Money- The more, the merrier
Jerkness- Once again, obvious

Now, although many people say they don't like people who fake their personality to conform, they're all lying. After all, non-conformism is just another way to conform. So you have to re-invent yourself.

Start going to gym. Tone up a bit, get yourself a six-pack. Trust me, the effort will pay off. Join some sports teams, but make sure they're the right ones. Rugby/American Football, good. Soccer, good in Europe, less good in the states. Cricket/Baseball, not so good. Make sure you avoid things like snooker and lawn darts like the plague. Tennis and golf are also to be avoided.

As for other looks, there isn't much you can do at the moment. Get some acne remover, keep your teeth brushed, get your hair sorted.

In private, start relearning your interests. As much as you love reading and theatre, forget them. If you play wargames or (God forbid) D+D, give up and destroy the evidence (or sell it on eBay). Music is alright, as long as it is the right sort. No matter how much you love death metal, swear never to listen to it again. You'll have to play this one by ear. Listen to what the popular people listen to. Give up all classical instruments you play. However, electric guitar, bass, and drums are still socially acceptable as long as you only play the right music.

Meanwhile, give your personality a makeover. Sensitivity? Niceness? Lose 'em. Instead of helping old ladies across the street, kick over bins, drink on street corners, smoke weed etc. Be an antisocial asshole.

Get in with the popular people. Now that you've got your new personality and interests sorted, you need better friends. Tell all the geeks you used to hang out with where to shove it. Hang out with your new friends a lot, where you can be seen.

Now you've got your popularity up and your body sculpted, we can begin a few schemes to get your face better, and boost your bank balance. Although the obvious idea may be to get a weekend job, there are a few other ideas that could help more. Although raising your money is good, raising money and jerkness at the same time is a clear winner. So, what do you do? Easy. Shake down a few nerds. They should not only have money, but also laptops and high-storage USB pens and things. Wage your campaign of terror.

Now that you've got your cashflow sorted, get plastic surgery. The shallow bitches will like you now, even if they don't want you, so ask them for some advice.

Now that you've completely reinvented yourself, get out there and score. And remember, be a complete asshole. Cheat on them with all their friends, sisters, etc. Don't even attempt to understand their feelings. Take advantage when they're drunk. And they'll all love you for it.

Unfortunately, I'm too nice to try this approach. If anyone else does, tell me the results.
Commie Catholics
13-07-2005, 14:34
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

Perhaps it's because you have bad grammar?
Commie Catholics
13-07-2005, 14:36
You should know by now
"GIRLS DONT LIKE LICE GUYS!"

Its my understanding you should pretend to be someone other than who you are for the first coupleof dates.

Then when they think they like you wham out comes your real personality but they are commited and you've got them.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

You probably shouldn't tell girls what they wan't. Unless of course you're a girls yourself. Which you're most likely not.
Carthage and Troy
13-07-2005, 14:58
When it comes to attraction, women are not very picky and usually just go for whoever is convenient. They are not like boys who will explore out of their own social circle to seek out their perfect girl (what I call the target girl), usually they will instead just go for some guy that is close at hand and easily accesible.

In fact they dont really know what they want, they are like children. Often children will not be interested in something like a toy or food until other children or adults show an interest in the same thing. For example when a child wont eat his greens, adults will sometimes pretend that they want the greens and suddenly the child will want to eat them.

This is often how women work, they are often incapable of even knowing what they want themsleves, and they wont find you attractive until they see other girls wanting you.

Your key to getting the target girl therefore lies in two factors:

1) Make it seem like you are a casual acquaintance that is easily accesible and kind of within the same social circle (even if in reality you have gone out of your way to find the target girl)

2) Try to get the target girl to witness other girls giving you lots of attention (you can do this by using a close female friend, just make sure that she is reasonably attractive and cool). Unless you are really not the target girl's type, this will work every time, aslong as you remember factor 1 aswell.
Moomoo Moomoo
13-07-2005, 15:07
Hee.

Everyone's attracted to something different. Everyone ends up with or doesn't end up different things. This thread is amazing.
Lowrentica
13-07-2005, 15:23
Go rent the movie - In the Company of Men, you will feel much better about the whole thing.
Carthage and Troy
13-07-2005, 15:30
Well, girls are attracted to three things.

Looks- This one should be obvious. It means muscles and stuff
Money- The more, the merrier
Jerkness- Once again, obvious


Ha ha, I love your post-hilarious! And there is a lot of truth in there, but I think its mainly targeted towards a young crowd (13-18 year old girls). I would like to think that older girls are a little more mature than you make out in their attractions.

The truth is that the three things that girls are attracted to that you mention are very true. But most girls are not intelligent enough, lack the self esteem, or just not picky enough to actually seek out a guy with lots of all three qualities, usually they will just settle for one of the three:

a) A ridiculously handsome tall gigolo type who is a broke loser but great in bed.

b) A disgustingly ugly geek in a pinstrip suit and a pink tie with a ton of money.

c) A thug with a brutish look who can hustle a few bucks but not much more and treats women like objects.

Therefore another tactic would be to instead of trying to master all three areas that girls are attracted to, just concentrate on one of the three:

1, Go to the gym everyday, get your body fully waxed, cover yourself in fake tan, and spend all your money on designer clothes (you can get a job in a designer botique to make this cheaper).

2, Give up all your interests and passions and instead concentrate on making cold, hard cash! You could try to get into the stock market, or you could start studying law or medicine. Or just tell girls that you are studying law and medicine, they will not work out that you are lying until its too late. The type of girls that are interested in guys wih money are not too concerned with looks (in fact they will avoid guys with money and good looks because they wont feel they are good enough to hold on to him). So dont waiste too much time making yourself look good, instead just go for the boring proffesional look. Surprisingly you dont need to spend a ton of money on smart suits, just get the cheap ones, most gold-digger girls are far too dumb to be able to tell an expensive suit from acheap one.

3, The final option is to become a hard nosed, steet wise thug with no respect for the female gender whatsoever. You could sell drugs, or you could just pretend to be a thug. Try to avoid being a common street thug unless you want to attract a hood rat. Instead get a couple of nice suits, but offset the smart image with a scar on your face. The thug image will enchant a certain type of girl who expects you to show them no attention at all, so you must ignore girls almost entirely. Usually girls that are attracted to the ultra-thug are also too stupid to catch on that the image is a complete farse. As long as you maintain your cold heartless exterior, they will never be the wiser.
Inbreedia
13-07-2005, 15:32
I'd advice to stop obsessing over why girls don't like you. In fact, don't even try to hunt for a girlfriend at all. Don't bother. Don't actively or even passively seek to find a girlfriend. Avoid relationships if you have to.

Odd advice, isn't it?

But it does have it's merits. You're really too damn concerned about getting into a relationship. You say you want something meaningful? Want a girl to like you for being kind, sweet, and sensitive? WAKE UP! That just means you want to get laid, don't care who, don't care how, but you want to mate... it's just that you don't have the balls to admit it, you emo!

So take it from me. Do go out looking to get any action, or even any relationships. Just live your life. Things will happen. Eventually, you'll get into a meaningful relationship with a girl you know. It may take years, but time doesn't matter. Relationships should take plenty of time to cultivate. So be patient, don't try to rush things, and just go with the flow. Whatever happens... happens!
Alinania
13-07-2005, 15:46
*sigh* I really hope Carthage and Troy and Taldaan are kidding.
What you portray to be every girls dream would honestly scare me away...
Wooktop
13-07-2005, 15:47
Your wang isn't large enough, women can sense these things subconsciously..

I love that quote. gotta put that as my sig somewhere.
Artamazia
13-07-2005, 16:03
You should know by now
"GIRLS DONT LIKE LICE GUYS!"

Its my understanding you should pretend to be someone other than who you are for the first coupleof dates.

Then when they think they like you wham out comes your real personality but they are commited and you've got them.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

I have to agree with this one. Guys with lice are really gross.
Genaia3
13-07-2005, 16:13
Lol - the logic for lots of people here seems to be: "Girls don't like nice guys, because I'm a nice guy...".
Megaloria
13-07-2005, 16:15
You're too Emo.
Pontification
13-07-2005, 16:22
The key is money. Lots and lots and lots of money. Nothing else matters.

Precisely why I'm so unsuccessful. :(

Having said that, the advantage of being single is that my meagre amount of money is at least my own... :D

And for some reason I'm able to attract girls that are twice my age, but not those of a similar age. Help!

(Btw. girls may not like Rice guys)
El Porro
13-07-2005, 17:23
Fuck girls (but not literally), go in the Morrissey direction - abstain, then form a band and write about it.

Being in a band gets you girls, how else do you think drummers ever have sex? (Which reminds me of a joke: What's the difference between a drummer and a pig? A pig won't stay up until 4 just to fuck another pig.. - but I digress..)

I'm a bass player in a band in south London, obviously we're hardly big, but in the few gigs we've done I managed to pull a couple of times..

(We practise insanely intensely, we do the sort of uber-complex indie-pop like.. uh.. not sure, imagine an all male 3 piece Blondie, with QOTSA rhythms.)

I dunno, the chicks seem to dig it.. :confused:
Carthage and Troy
13-07-2005, 17:40
*sigh* I really hope Carthage and Troy and Taldaan are kidding.
What you portray to be every girls dream would honestly scare me away...

Well, the first post I made wasn't a joke, those are serious tactics. The second post was a satire.
Artamazia
13-07-2005, 17:47
The key is money. Lots and lots and lots of money. Nothing else matters.

Precisely why I'm so unsuccessful. :(

Having said that, the advantage of being single is that my meagre amount of money is at least my own... :D

And for some reason I'm able to attract girls that are twice my age, but not those of a similar age. Help!

(Btw. girls may not like Rice guys)

Hello, I am a girl, and I don't care about money. and I am also not twice your age unless you are around 8.
El Porro
13-07-2005, 18:00
This all reminds me of a quote from Coupling:

Jeff: [exuberantly] I've started to talk to women like they're real people!
Patrick: [thoughtfully] In many ways they are..
Dark Regonia
13-07-2005, 18:29
the thing is wiht me MANY girls like me. im both sensitive sweet and an idiot lol but i treat em right. ive been wiht the saem girl for 3 years snd ive seen her 8 times in the last cause she moved. but were still together. now i think thats a little past the 3 month period eh lol.


dude dont stop what your doing but try and be a little bit more than just sweet and sensitive be a little more outgoing. IT WORKED FOR ME! :)
Nerion
13-07-2005, 18:45
Fuck girls (but not literally), go in the Morrissey direction - abstain, then form a band and write about it.

Being in a band gets you girls, how else do you think drummers ever have sex? (Which reminds me of a joke: What's the difference between a drummer and a pig? A pig won't stay up until 4 just to fuck another pig.. - but I digress..)

I'm a bass player in a band in south London, obviously we're hardly big, but in the few gigs we've done I managed to pull a couple of times..

(We practise insanely intensely, we do the sort of uber-complex indie-pop like.. uh.. not sure, imagine an all male 3 piece Blondie, with QOTSA rhythms.)

I dunno, the chicks seem to dig it.. :confused:


LMAO!!!!!

I'm a keyboard player. And while we don't get as much action as the string section, we don't ONLY fuck pigs like the drummers. Also, as far as the idea of a drummer staying up to fuck another DRUMMER - how many female drummers do you know?

While I'm not on a quest to fuck one, you can imagine a male drummer's surprise if he ever found one. He might even stay up all night to get into her pants.
Ay-way
13-07-2005, 19:29
Women like strength, and they like confidence... you don't have to seem street tough but you need to seem like a guy who has a little backbone and will take on a challenge, whether that challenge is physical, career-oriented or whatever.

Some dude who shows himself as being 'sensitive and sweet, but not too good with girls' has none of those qualities. Sensitive and sweet is cool, but u have to have more than that or you'll seem like a doormat. Who respects a doormat? Why would a chick believe in a guy who doesn't believe in himself?

... and if all else fails then that long wang comment is a good one too. Try stuffing a cucumber down your pants and maybe you'll fool someone... make sure you stuff it down the the front of your pants though and not the back :D

- (that last paragraph was in jest)
Undelia
13-07-2005, 19:49
Hello, I am a girl, and I don't care about money. and I am also not twice your age unless you are around 8.

You’re lying. :D
Swimmingpool
13-07-2005, 19:53
A different tack is to pretend to be gay as they somehow seem to feel safe around gays and you might be able to take advantage at a vulnerable moment. Also they like to think they have what it takes to turn a gay straight.
This is truly the worst advice I have ever read.
Laerod
13-07-2005, 19:57
The key is money. Lots and lots and lots of money. Nothing else matters.

Precisely why I'm so unsuccessful. :(

Having said that, the advantage of being single is that my meagre amount of money is at least my own... :D

And for some reason I'm able to attract girls that are twice my age, but not those of a similar age. Help!

(Btw. girls may not like Rice guys)
I've actually had a girlfriend I had to trick in order to pay for our dates. It developed into a game. When I lost, I got money, and when I won, I got satisfaction.
Maniaca
13-07-2005, 20:00
Nucazuki, your problem may be that you live in California.
El Porro
13-07-2005, 20:12
LMAO!!!!!

I'm a keyboard player. And while we don't get as much action as the string section, we don't ONLY fuck pigs like the drummers. Also, as far as the idea of a drummer staying up to fuck another DRUMMER - how many female drummers do you know?

While I'm not on a quest to fuck one, you can imagine a male drummer's surprise if he ever found one. He might even stay up all night to get into her pants.

I imagine Meg White has a few admirers.. Not me though, she has a face like a bulldog licking piss off a thistle.. :D

Trying to think of others. Not really a female-dominated area, is it? Must be the upper body strength thing.. It hurts too! I've tried drumming and you get random cuts and abrasions on your hands.. Ouchy! (Although the effects of bass playing are hardly easy on one's fingers - try roughly scraping a thick metal wire with your fingertips for x amount of time, over about 8 years. I have what I call 'cauliflower fingertip'. But it means they're so callused that I can take hot plates out of the oven with my left hand! :D )
Swimmingpool
13-07-2005, 20:18
Shaed is rubbing off on you, sir.
Whatever happened to Shaed?
Nerion
13-07-2005, 20:42
I imagine Meg White has a few admirers.. Not me though, she has a face like a bulldog licking piss off a thistle.. :D

Trying to think of others. Not really a female-dominated area, is it? Must be the upper body strength thing.. It hurts too! I've tried drumming and you get random cuts and abrasions on your hands.. Ouchy! (Although the effects of bass playing are hardly easy on one's fingers - try roughly scraping a thick metal wire with your fingertips for x amount of time, over about 8 years. I have what I call 'cauliflower fingertip'. But it means they're so callused that I can take hot plates out of the oven with my left hand! :D )

It's been my experience that most female band members have too much emotional baggage to be worth messing with. Meg White is a perfect example. I bet most of her following consists of guys that would like a one night stand with her but would want to be LONG gone before she EVER woke up. And it's not because she's ugly.

I've seen her being interviewed before. Can you imagine what spending just ONE morning listening to one of her rants would be like?
Lashie
14-07-2005, 03:28
I'm a female drummer... I'm just not famous... :D
Commie Catholics
14-07-2005, 03:33
I'm a female drummer... I'm just not famous... :D

You will be some day. I can't believe this thread is still going. It's horrible.
The Island of Rose
14-07-2005, 03:34
Real men reject women, real men look for the approvement of other fellow men, RAWR.
Dragons Bay
14-07-2005, 03:38
Real men reject women, real men look for the approvement of other fellow men, RAWR.

*raises eyebrows*

Oh?
The Island of Rose
14-07-2005, 03:42
Surely, of course. You can always get a new women, but friends are forever. Unless your friend is trying to steal your girl, then he's eligable to get a beating. >_>
Dragons Bay
14-07-2005, 03:51
Surely, of course. You can always get a new women, but friends are forever. Unless your friend is trying to steal your girl, then he's eligable to get a beating. >_>

While most of my friends are indeed guys, I've also got some girl friends...
The Island of Rose
14-07-2005, 03:56
Good on you then... well, I'll just leave the thread then. Bye.
Opressive pacifists
14-07-2005, 04:05
be a good listener, have intelligent responses to their questions....
and NEVER look more than 10 degrees below their eyes...
of course, i fail miserably every time i pursue women...:(
lotsa them are friends tho...
which makes them off limits...
and i AM the only one that doesn't break when Cat tries to crack my discipline...
[unbreakable= does not blush up to but not including nudity]
Undelia
14-07-2005, 04:15
Real men reject women, real men look for the approvement of other fellow men, RAWR.

You would have fit in very well in ancient Greece. Athens would have been best for you, but if you could have stood discipline and hard work, Sparta.
-Everyknowledge-
14-07-2005, 04:22
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(
I think it's because you're the type of guy who would go online and bitch on a forum filled with complete strangers from all over the world that you can't get a girl, hoping for sympathy.

(Sorry, that was harsh. Still, if you want to stop being rejected, you should do something about it, not whine about it to others. Improve upon yourself. Make an effort to meet someone.)
Xenophobialand
14-07-2005, 04:24
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

Hmm. You know, it might help if you get shot down a few times. The odd thing I've found is that the anticipation of getting shot down is often worse than the actual drop, and the more you get shot down, the thicker your skin becomes, making it easier to approach a girl the next time. So what you might want to do is just ask a few girls out, even if you have expectation of actually getting anything accomplished. While it won't get you a girl, it will teach you that being rejected isn't the end of the world.

Another thing you need to do is to change your attitude. For me, my (to use alcoholic's terminology) moment of clarity came when I was talking to what was probably the most spectacularly beautiful woman I've ever met in my life. Think Carmen Electra, except replace the sex-bomb vibe with that of a wholesomely Midwestern Catholic schoolgirl, and reduce the breast size to a natural C cup, and you've basically got it. Now where was I. . .oh yes, I was talking with her, and she clearly wasn't biting. It was at that moment that it finally dawned on me.

Most of my life, I've been noticing that other guys are far more attractive to the ladies than I am. What really irked me, however, was that most other men aren't nearly as great a guy as I am. They're assholes, they're far dumber than me, and I could break most of them in half without so much as working up a sweat. So most of my life, I've tried to find ways of perfecting myself so that I would be irresistable to women: I worked out to make myself chiseled, I read philosophy books to make myself smarter, and I tried my damnedest to seem like the nicest guy any woman ever came across. However, it didn't really work. The moment of clarity, however, was a realization of how backwards I'd already had it. I realized as I was chatting up this girl that in every measurable way, I was off the charts ahead of her. I was smarter, stronger, faster, kinder than her. Despite the fact that her beauty was staggering, she was in no way my equal. So why in the hell was I putting her on a pedastal? Instead, she should be trying to impress me. That realization may make me sound like a dick, but it set me free: I no longer have to feel bad about rejection, because it means that whatever talent a girl might have, she doesn't have the crucial one of knowing a good deal when it comes up to her and asks her out. It's a mindset that allows me to automatically dismiss any girl that doesn't like me as the kind that isn't right for me anyway. I don't treat women badly, but I don't treat them as my salvation anymore either.

What might give you this "moment of clarity", I have no idea. Maybe you should try chatting up a hottie like I did and seeing how little of a fine bird there is under all those fine feathers.

I apologize if this seems like I'm rambling, as like any revalatory experience, it's difficult to put precisely into words how it works. I did my best, and I hope that's enough.
Ryanania
14-07-2005, 04:31
Lotta jerks in this thread. There's no reason to insult this guy.
The LRPT
14-07-2005, 04:43
Lotta jerks in this thread. There's no reason to insult this guy.

Just posting alone was asking for it. Hopefully he'll read what he needs to read and ignore the rest.
Douche-bagistan
14-07-2005, 05:16
they cant deal with immature guys for too long, you have to be witty, funny, smart. You have to listen to what they say and udnerstand what they talk about, and how they feel... then you gotta improv what you do based on that. You play your game by their rules. act smart, but not a know-it-all, dont talk about random stuff that no one cares about,,, find out her interests and learn about them. stand up straight, look them in the eyes (dont let the eyes wander too much, a quick 'up and down' with a look of 'damn you know youve got it going on' the first few times you see them always works). Compliment, but not too much. Dont let them think they have you whipped, break the rules once in a while. NEver be nervous, b/c when youve got all of the above, theyre the ones who are going to be nervous. dont be an asshole too much, dont stalk her, dont spend every waking minute with her, surprise her, and make out in the rain (always works).
always remember... confidence, not cockyness
Harlesburg
14-07-2005, 08:37
Y'know what Harlesburg, I think you should calm down, take a few deep breaths and I don't know, try to act normal or something.. :p
"No marge trying is the first step to failure!"
At times? Little more than 'at times'.
See CC thats exactly what i was saying.
"In a World gone Mad only the Craziest are Insane!"

You two just pointed out what i said if i act 'normal' im not being me so that means id have to put on some charade and be like a Harlequin not a Harlesburger.

So if i act like others people might think "cool just like everyone else" and as i slowly let my guard down they will go "Argh what a freak!"

This way i save everyones time by acting like a loon! :D
Parduna
14-07-2005, 12:22
You're wrong. For some reason beyond me girls seem to like assholes who dont treat them right but will confide in you "as a friend".
...

That, plus three important things make a man attractive for women:
money,
stock market shares
real estate
(gold and diamonds may help either)
Pontification
14-07-2005, 21:44
Hello, I am a girl, and I don't care about money. and I am also not twice your age unless you are around 8.

No, that's ok. You are actually the same age roughly as me then. You are one of a very small number of girls I know that don't rate money highly :) !

The problem is that I can talk to girls my own age ok but then they just don't seem to take any serious interest in me. Also some of the girls I like already have boyfriends... some might call that bad judgement on my part! But feelings are feelings, after all!

Also the fact that I am reasonably talented (I wish) at music (I am both a bass player and a keyboard player) does not seem to attract any girls either. I've been through the whole 'being nice' thing and that doesn't help. Nothing works! :headbang: Ah well, such is life. :cool:
Lashie
15-07-2005, 05:50
"No marge trying is the first step to failure!"

See CC thats exactly what i was saying.
"In a World gone Mad only the Craziest are Insane!"

You two just pointed out what i said if i act 'normal' im not being me so that means id have to put on some charade and be like a Harlequin not a Harlesburger.

So if i act like others people might think "cool just like everyone else" and as i slowly let my guard down they will go "Argh what a freak!"

This way i save everyones time by acting like a loon! :D

Yeah, good point... ok, act insane if you want :D

Me, I'll just watch...
Harlesburg
15-07-2005, 06:32
Plus A guy once made a thread called

"Girls dont like Nice Guys"

Well as it should have it got completly Bastardised by every Bastard out there.
Girls dont like Mice Guys
Girls dont like Nice Guys
Girls dont like Rice Guys
and my personel contribution....

Girls dont like Dice guys.-aparently TInk does like Winners but i didnt qualify.
Zincite
15-07-2005, 07:08
Being a girl, I can give you some tips. An atypical 15-year-old one, yes, but I'll say what I can.

1. DO NOT tell a girl you're interested in, or someone who probably talks to her about these things, how lonely you are. Unless she is really desperate or already likes you, it's a total turn-off. It gives the message you'd go out with anyone and therefore whoever you're with next isn't really that special.

2. What's the supposed obsession with money and penis size? I so don't get it. Don't listen to it - no girl needing to be bought is worth your time, same with any girl who thinks your cock is the be-all and end-all, and we can't tell either one upon meeting you, anyway.
2b. However, we can very often tell if you have a boner when we hug you. Some of us will take it as a compliment, others will feel uncomfortable, most to all won't mention it. Just be aware of this.

3. Here's where the "bad boy" thing comes from: confidence, you loser. Confidence and posture are the two most attractive things a girl can see right off the bat in a guy. Now, a lot of girls (like me) don't follow the jerk trend and simply hold out in single-land for a real stunner. Be that stunner for us, will you - there are a lot of self-respecting girls out there that are just totally annoyed with the selection that polarizes between arseholes and nervousyshypeople.
3b. Yes, some girls do have helper syndrome and are attracted to the guys that are shy and quiet. However, she's just as nervous as you and isn't culturally expected to make the moves and therefore is less likely to ask you out even if she does like you. If you end up in a relationship with one of these girls, however, you'd better get fixed because in the end we all want a confident guy and if she likes your personality but can't make you confident, she'll break it off and keep looking.

4. Here's where lots of girls get totally infatuated with gay guys: they're confident around us because they aren't worried about being attractive to us, and they're still nice because they don't have a complex where they think a little cockiness has to go all the way and be assholishness.

So:
5. Respect, Confidence, and Caring are the three keys.
a. be self-assured. Don't back down just because of something we say, most of us don't mind a light argument and this will make us like you more.
b. when you've gotten a relationship with her, do show your caring and sensitive side when you're talking about deep topics. Even when just getting to know her, do listen.
c. treat us as equals. Don't grovel at our feet, but don't be a misogynistic ass either. Listen to us, but stand up for yourself.

6. In essence, you have to balance yourself. This world is too falsely polarized. It may seem as though you're either a macho-man or an effeminate pushover, but that's not true. There aren't only jerks and nice guys.

7. Sometimes you just have to wait. When you find someone you really click with, these will come more naturally - and when it's someone who's really worth it, you'll feel the respect coming from her as well and won't have to worry about acting correctly.

8. Being yourself is always better than faking it.
Pontification
15-07-2005, 09:41
Not bad advice, I'll give it a try!

Of course, following advice is one thing, but finding the girl you 'click with', well, that's a bit harder ;) !

Like 'Opressive Pacifists', I have a lot of girls that are friends, and it is just getting the one I like to see some of my better qualities.
Neutered Sputniks
15-07-2005, 09:43
Not bad advice, I'll give it a try!

Of course, following advice is one thing, but finding the girl you 'click with', well, that's a bit harder ;) !

Like 'Opressive Pacifists', I have a lot of girls that are friends, and it is just getting the one I like to see some of my better qualities.


How old are you?
Tesspresstia
15-07-2005, 09:47
Look where you're posting.
Pontification
15-07-2005, 10:08
How old are you?

In the middle of adolescence. The time of life where depression is highest as you realise that you'll have to pay tax in a few years...
Poo-Hoo-Boo-Too
15-07-2005, 10:17
I feel your pain man, i feel your pain.
Parisian Hiltonian
15-07-2005, 10:26
...Because you hang out in Nation State chatrooms... Just a thought... but I think that's hot !
Pontification
15-07-2005, 10:34
There's a lot of humour on these forums, who could resist hanging out here? (See new Brit/American comedy thread!)

Yeah, for guys there seems to be a stigma attached to the word 'computer', as girls *seem* to hear this word and brand you a geek. From experience, I know that this can take a while to overcome as they largely don't want to be seen talking to you, and this can make chatting them up quite a tricky process.
Freistaat Sachsen
15-07-2005, 10:37
there is only one use for women: sex

the hot ones are nearly always sluts, the non-hot ones are noramally somewhat smarter, nicer and are more willing to stick with you for more than 3 months, however they're not really attractive material. Then theres also the little niche categories like religious girls bound to their parents etc. In reality a good looking girl, who is not a slut, is smart and is loyal is a needle in a haystack, and even once you find one like this theres still no guarantee as to the kind of person you are ... after 2 slut bimbos thats the kind of woman I am now seeking. The bullshit girls put out about themselves is nice, reality is nicer because it is true, before I used to go for the bullshit, but eventually you fall into reality ...
Undelia
15-07-2005, 10:40
When will this thread DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Neutered Sputniks
15-07-2005, 10:46
There's a lot of humour on these forums, who could resist hanging out here? (See new Brit/American comedy thread!)

Yeah, for guys there seems to be a stigma attached to the word 'computer', as girls *seem* to hear this word and brand you a geek. From experience, I know that this can take a while to overcome as they largely don't want to be seen talking to you, and this can make chatting them up quite a tricky process.

Why are you in such a hurry to find someone? You do realize that until you arent looking, nothing you find will last long, right?
Pontification
15-07-2005, 10:46
This thread will die when women stop rejecting guys, obviously. Next question... :)

Hmm... I hadn't considered that I might be in a rush to find someone, but I'm practically at the point of giving up anyway for the time being, until I move on and hopefully meet new people.
Satanic Life
15-07-2005, 10:46
there is only one use for women: sex



I am appalled by your outlook! How DARE you say that? That is so degrading. Man, you're wrong.
Freistaat Sachsen
15-07-2005, 10:49
I am appalled by your outlook! How DARE you say that? That is so degrading. Man, you're wrong.

Some people prefer a realistic outlook on life, nobody really wins if everyone accepts bullshit all the time ... read the rest of my post ...
Neutered Sputniks
15-07-2005, 10:52
I am appalled by your outlook! How DARE you say that? That is so degrading. Man, you're wrong.


Eh, I say let it go. Sounds like he's simply wallowing in his own misery... Although, I will say that some geographical locations do happen to have the majority of the female population falling into certain pitfalls that reduce their overall attractiveness...
Macdhui
15-07-2005, 11:09
Girls reject you because you think people on the internet can solve your problems.

Get off the internet,twat
Macdhui
15-07-2005, 11:11
Exactly.
Get off the internet,twat.You don´t have one creative thought in your head.
Nerion
15-07-2005, 16:03
Being a girl, I can give you some tips. An atypical 15-year-old one, yes, but I'll say what I can.

1. DO NOT tell a girl you're interested in, or someone who probably talks to her about these things, how lonely you are. Unless she is really desperate or already likes you, it's a total turn-off. It gives the message you'd go out with anyone and therefore whoever you're with next isn't really that special.

2. What's the supposed obsession with money and penis size? I so don't get it. Don't listen to it - no girl needing to be bought is worth your time, same with any girl who thinks your cock is the be-all and end-all, and we can't tell either one upon meeting you, anyway.
2b. However, we can very often tell if you have a boner when we hug you. Some of us will take it as a compliment, others will feel uncomfortable, most to all won't mention it. Just be aware of this.

3. Here's where the "bad boy" thing comes from: confidence, you loser. Confidence and posture are the two most attractive things a girl can see right off the bat in a guy. Now, a lot of girls (like me) don't follow the jerk trend and simply hold out in single-land for a real stunner. Be that stunner for us, will you - there are a lot of self-respecting girls out there that are just totally annoyed with the selection that polarizes between arseholes and nervousyshypeople.
3b. Yes, some girls do have helper syndrome and are attracted to the guys that are shy and quiet. However, she's just as nervous as you and isn't culturally expected to make the moves and therefore is less likely to ask you out even if she does like you. If you end up in a relationship with one of these girls, however, you'd better get fixed because in the end we all want a confident guy and if she likes your personality but can't make you confident, she'll break it off and keep looking.

4. Here's where lots of girls get totally infatuated with gay guys: they're confident around us because they aren't worried about being attractive to us, and they're still nice because they don't have a complex where they think a little cockiness has to go all the way and be assholishness.

So:
5. Respect, Confidence, and Caring are the three keys.
a. be self-assured. Don't back down just because of something we say, most of us don't mind a light argument and this will make us like you more.
b. when you've gotten a relationship with her, do show your caring and sensitive side when you're talking about deep topics. Even when just getting to know her, do listen.
c. treat us as equals. Don't grovel at our feet, but don't be a misogynistic ass either. Listen to us, but stand up for yourself.

6. In essence, you have to balance yourself. This world is too falsely polarized. It may seem as though you're either a macho-man or an effeminate pushover, but that's not true. There aren't only jerks and nice guys.

7. Sometimes you just have to wait. When you find someone you really click with, these will come more naturally - and when it's someone who's really worth it, you'll feel the respect coming from her as well and won't have to worry about acting correctly.

8. Being yourself is always better than faking it.


This was a very good answer! Women love confidence (men like it in women too) - but the plain truth is you don't have to be a jerk to be confident. A lot of girls like guys with the "bad boy" image. That doesn't mean the guy with that image is a jerk - but women are attracted to guys that stand out sometimes. Being confident in who you are - even if you're different from the crowd - makes some women want you. Stand out and be proud of it and women will start to notice you.
Lashie
16-07-2005, 06:29
At times? Little more than 'at times'.

Oh well if I'm arrogant any more than at times it's your fault :D
Lashie
16-07-2005, 06:37
there is only one use for women: sex

the hot ones are nearly always sluts, the non-hot ones are noramally somewhat smarter, nicer and are more willing to stick with you for more than 3 months, however they're not really attractive material. Then theres also the little niche categories like religious girls bound to their parents etc. In reality a good looking girl, who is not a slut, is smart and is loyal is a needle in a haystack, and even once you find one like this theres still no guarantee as to the kind of person you are ... after 2 slut bimbos thats the kind of woman I am now seeking. The bullshit girls put out about themselves is nice, reality is nicer because it is true, before I used to go for the bullshit, but eventually you fall into reality ...

Do you really want me to go through that and point out all the problems with your little spiel??? or should I just accept it as immaturity that you may one day get over :rolleyes:

Oh and wait if the only point of women is for sex then why would you want (look above) that type of girl...? Cause she wouldn't want you... :rolleyes:
Jjimjja
16-07-2005, 14:10
i have a problem girls reject me im kind sweet sensetive well maybe not sensetive but i thought girls like sweet kind guys girls really like me but all seem to lose interest with in about 3 months so can you help me girls :(

if it does not last longer than 3 months well thats because she was not the one. and were not the one for her.

Shit saying women like a nice guy, is like say men like women that have big tits.
You have to interest the other person, and vice versa. NOT HAVE LOADS OF THINGS IN COMMON. Just because interesting. I've now been with my girlfriend 3 years. before that my longest relationship was 5 months. Why? one would bore of the other.

Try this, go out, have a few drinks and chat with a women. Don't flirt, except for the usual stuff. Talk, dance have a laugh. Then after a while, not 15mins, couple of hours, tell her you find her attractive, and really you want to know whether you stand a chance, or..... not. If she says yes, great, give her a peck on the lips and grab her hand and take her on to the dance floor. If the answer is....not, well you've met someone cool, who might have attractive friends to meet on another night. Warning, don't just sulk and walk off, as that will screw up future encounter with her and potentially attractive friends.
Unified Japan
04-08-2005, 18:49
Well, girls are attracted to three things.

Looks- This one should be obvious. It means muscles and stuff
Money- The more, the merrier
Jerkness- Once again, obvious

Now, although many people say they don't like people who fake their personality to conform, they're all lying. After all, non-conformism is just another way to conform. So you have to re-invent yourself.

Start going to gym. Tone up a bit, get yourself a six-pack. Trust me, the effort will pay off. Join some sports teams, but make sure they're the right ones. Rugby/American Football, good. Soccer, good in Europe, less good in the states. Cricket/Baseball, not so good. Make sure you avoid things like snooker and lawn darts like the plague. Tennis and golf are also to be avoided.

As for other looks, there isn't much you can do at the moment. Get some acne remover, keep your teeth brushed, get your hair sorted.

In private, start relearning your interests. As much as you love reading and theatre, forget them. If you play wargames or (God forbid) D+D, give up and destroy the evidence (or sell it on eBay). Music is alright, as long as it is the right sort. No matter how much you love death metal, swear never to listen to it again. You'll have to play this one by ear. Listen to what the popular people listen to. Give up all classical instruments you play. However, electric guitar, bass, and drums are still socially acceptable as long as you only play the right music.

Meanwhile, give your personality a makeover. Sensitivity? Niceness? Lose 'em. Instead of helping old ladies across the street, kick over bins, drink on street corners, smoke weed etc. Be an antisocial asshole.

Get in with the popular people. Now that you've got your new personality and interests sorted, you need better friends. Tell all the geeks you used to hang out with where to shove it. Hang out with your new friends a lot, where you can be seen.

Now you've got your popularity up and your body sculpted, we can begin a few schemes to get your face better, and boost your bank balance. Although the obvious idea may be to get a weekend job, there are a few other ideas that could help more. Although raising your money is good, raising money and jerkness at the same time is a clear winner. So, what do you do? Easy. Shake down a few nerds. They should not only have money, but also laptops and high-storage USB pens and things. Wage your campaign of terror.

Now that you've got your cashflow sorted, get plastic surgery. The shallow bitches will like you now, even if they don't want you, so ask them for some advice.

Now that you've completely reinvented yourself, get out there and score. And remember, be a complete asshole. Cheat on them with all their friends, sisters, etc. Don't even attempt to understand their feelings. Take advantage when they're drunk. And they'll all love you for it.

Something tastes funny. Kinda sour. Sour like....grapes? :p

"GIRLS DONT LIKE LICE GUYS!"

Who does? You can catch nits from them, they're usually kinda ill-kempt...
Jah Bootie
04-08-2005, 18:54
Maybe you are confusing "sensitive" with "passive wuss". Believe it or not, the two are not the same thing.
Cali Gone East
04-08-2005, 18:56
Girls reject you because you think people on the internet can solve your problems.
Haha
Syawla
12-08-2005, 01:13
Your wang isn't large enough, women can sense these things subconsciously..

Oh how true... looks down at his 69 incher and smiles. ;)