NationStates Jolt Archive

Who is the ugliest world leader of all time? I say Maggie Thatcher.

Normally I avoid railing against Bush, but...
That brown suit he wore just after the London bombings, that made my eyes hurt.

Richard Nixon is one pug-fuggly bastard. Well, was one pug-fuggly bastard.

Richard Nixon is one pug-fuggly bastard. Well, was one pug-fuggly bastard.

Wait, he's not dead, is he?

Who is the ugliest world leader of all time? I say Maggie Thatcher.

I say Winston Churchill. Was he even human? :eek:

Mao Zedong's the ugliest politician I can think of!

Wait, he's not dead, is he?

He died in '94.

Normally I avoid railing against Bush, but...

http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/monkey.htm

That brown suit he wore just after the London bombings, that made my eyes hurt.

Brown shirt? LOL!

http://www.toysoldiers.com/products-soldiers/images/kingandcountry/lah48.jpg

Well, Tony Blair has a smile to make Jaws blush and ears clearly stolen from prince Charles, maggie thatcher was just wroing, but i say it isn't Bush's face but the rather simian way he uses it that gets me. His expression is at times chimp-like.

but i'd say someone who hjas been dead long enough to be green but not too long would be the worst.

He looks like a fucking gremlin.
http://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpg

We need more pictures, people.

Here's a leader who is NOT ugly:

http://www.law.harvard.edu/library/collections/special/exhibitions/portrait_exhibit/Kai-shek_Chiang.jpg

Well, I guess Chiang is pretty ugly now. His casket is still unburied.

How's this?

http://www.brownsteins.net/Ulpan/Images/Golda.gif

Helen Clark, New Zealand's prime minister is some communistic bull dyke!

http://www.kiwinews.co.nz/uploads/helengrad.jpg

He died in '94.

FUCK! No-one told ME!

How's this?

I think that's Israel's Golda Meir.

FUCK! No-one told ME!

I don't think he was allowed a state funeral because of his impeachment.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0102/9ced04af29a9c946feec.jpeg

I think that's Israel's Golda Meir.

Correct. Either way you get a cookie for following my link or not. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Vajpayee.jpg

Kim Jong Il, without a doubt. I'm not saying that because I hate him for killing his citizens, letting millions starve while developing Nuclear Weapons, and for his living a life of luxury while his people live in poverty. I'm saying it mostly because.....of his frigging haircut.

http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200031/clanek/jongil/img/koreja2_inline.jpg

http://www.keele.ac.uk/socs/ks35/kim_jong_il.jpg

"Goddamnit, how many times do I have to tehr you? You don't use the WMDs untihr you see the signahr! I have worked ten years on this pran! It is a very precise, and a compricated pran! I am sick of you terrorists ******* it up! Now take the weapons where I tord you and wait for the *goddamn* signahr this time! Goodbye!"

that monkey and bush one really does it for me.
its proves the existence of the monkeyman hybrid made in florida in the 80's

I don't think he was allowed a state funeral because of his impeachment.
Nixon was not impeached.

Seriously folks, Kim Jong Il. Ugly.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/KimJongIL2.JPG

She isn't a world leader yet, but once she is, my vote goes to Angela Merkel:
Warning: Avoid exposing your eyes to the following (http://www.dw-world.de/dwelle/cda/popups/dwelle.cda.popups.galeriebild/0,3804,8065_G_1089117_1089115_20,00.html)

Who is the ugliest world leader of all time? I say Maggie Thatcher.
Well the pope looks dead.

I guess you havent seen Helen Clarke

Viktor Yushchenko, obviously:

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/2004/Ukrainian-Yushchenko-Dioxin11dec04.jpg

And there's a point to his ugliness - he's ugly because of his politics (the Ukrainian secret service gave him ugly poison, apparently) :p So he wins.

I don't think he was allowed a state funeral because of his impeachment.

Incorrect. Not only was he not impeached, he did have a state funeral, at least according to my recollection. This site seems to support my memory: Funeral Services of President Nixon (http://www.nixonfoundation.org/Research_Center/Nixons/RichardNixonFuneral.shtml)
An honor guard stood watch over the President's casket continuously from the time it was carried into the Library Tuesday afternoon until the beginning of the State funeral Wednesday

I don't think he was allowed a state funeral because of his impeachment.


That is not correct. He resigned instead of being impeached. All of the living Presidents attended his funeral.

Viktor Yushchenko, obviously:

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/2004/Ukrainian-Yushchenko-Dioxin11dec04.jpg

And there's a point to his ugliness - he's ugly because of his politics (the Ukrainian secret service gave him ugly poison, apparently) :p So he wins.
Yes, he used to look a lot better
http://www.albionmonitor.com/0411a/yushchenko.jpg
They didn't give him 'ugly poison', but Dioxin. Apparently in his blood they found the second highest dioxin level ever measured in a human.

They didn't give him 'ugly poison', but Dioxin. Apparently in his blood they found the second highest dioxin level ever measured in a human.

It made him ugly, therefore it's ugly poison :p

It made him ugly, therefore it's ugly poison :p
Alright, then. I'm not gonna pretend I know much about chemicals ;)

Canada's former Prime Minister, Jean Chretien.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/09/05/un.summit.names.reut/107.canada.jean.chretien.jpg

Although in this picture, he just looks confused.

John Howard of Australia ... short guy with funny glasses, dodgy nature and receding hairline.

her (http://www.sp-links.ch/BRWahl/Calmy-Rey.jpg)
She's awesome, but she should really consider getting a new haircut. (And as if that wasn't enough, she actually inspired stylists. So now there's a whole bunch of people walking around as if they just passed under a bird's .. you know... :eek: )

Ich!! (http://edition.cnn.com/2001/LAW/06/04/embassy.bombings.02/story.albright.jpg)

No wonder the terrorists wanted to kill us Americans.

"I am NOT a crook"

Ugliest? Kim Jong Il. How the hell did a creepy little freak like him get worhipped like a god in his country?!?

On the subject of world leader appearances...

I recently saw John Howard for the first time. I knew he was the prime minister of Australia. But I never saw him before:

http://www.alp.org.au/images/howard_head.jpg

Doesn't he seem awfully familiar??? Of course he does! It's Mikhail Gorbachev! Who the hell does he think he's fooling?!? He wiped that crap off his head, changed his accent and started pretending to be Australian! I'm telling you it's him! Look:

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/images_events/MG0903.jpg

It's the same freakin' guy!

Ugliest? Kim Jong Il. How the hell did a creepy little freak like him get worhipped like a god in his country?!?

On the subject of world leader appearances...

I recently saw John Howard for the first time. I knew he was the prime minister of Australia. But I never saw him before:

http://www.alp.org.au/images/howard_head.jpg

Doesn't he seem awfully familiar??? Of course he does! It's Mikhail Gorbachev! Who the hell does he think he's fooling?!? He wiped that crap off his head, changed his accent and started pretending to be Australian! I'm telling you it's him! Look:

http://www.watsoninstitute.org/images_events/MG0903.jpg

It's the same freakin' guy!
Who is that?

No, I think the best similarity is Mr Garrison and Johnny HoWARd:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ac.johnhoward.jpg vs http://www.csps.minx.co.uk/epiimgs/407/sp407_garrison.jpg

Although I think this is deliberate...

Who is that?

No, I think the best similarity is Mr Garrison and Johnny HoWARd:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ac.johnhoward.jpg vs http://www.csps.minx.co.uk/epiimgs/407/sp407_garrison.jpg

You're not actually asking who Mikhail Gorbachev is, are you?!? :eek:

If you are, I can sum it up for you like this: He is one of the few former russian leaders to leave office alive but he is remarkable as being, so far, the ONLY former russian leader to survive being deposed. :p

You're not actually asking who Mikhail Gorbachev is, are you?!? :eek:

If you are, I can sum it up for you like this: He is one of the few former russian leaders to leave office alive but he is remarkable as being, so far, the ONLY former russian leader to survive being deposed. :p
Ahh...
Still don't know anything about his achievements.


Just for the fun of chewing up some bandwidth:
http://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpg

Ahh...
Still don't know anything about his achievements.

<snip>

Gorbachev began the revival of the democratic process in the Soviet Union that ultimately led to it's dismantling. He became the first freely elected president of Russia. He's the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize. ANd personally I credit HIM with the destruction of the Berlin Wall, not Reagan. :)

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_More_You_Know/images/logo.jpg

http://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpghttp://www.worldpress.org/images/82304_JohnHoward.jpg
He's so UGLY! I can't get enough of it.

http://tinypic.com/6zxbwk.jpg

http://tinypic.com/6zxbwk.jpg
Tee hee hee.

Oliver Cromwell

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Cooper%2C_Oliver_Cromwell.jpg

Oliver Cromwell

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Cooper%2C_Oliver_Cromwell.jpg
Though he probably looked worse after he'd been dug up, decapitated, and his head impaled on a pike for a couple of months.

Oliver Cromwell

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Cooper%2C_Oliver_Cromwell.jpg
Those moles are... unpleasant.

Gorbachev began the revival of the democratic process in the Soviet Union that ultimately led to it's dismantling. He became the first freely elected president of Russia. He's the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize. ANd personally I credit HIM with the destruction of the Berlin Wall, not Reagan. :)

...
Actually, he was the first (and the last) President of the Soviet Union, Yeltsin is the first President of Russia. And Gorbachev wasn't too keen on democracy, it was more like going with the flow after he had opened the floodgates.

Stalin, that tash really didn't work.

He wasn't a world leader, but here is Leon Trotsky
http://www.fundanin.org/trotsky.jpg

That is not correct. He resigned instead of being impeached. All of the living Presidents attended his funeral.
Being impeached is not getting kicked out of office. His trial in front of congress is impeachment.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1071336844732_2003/12/15/home_saddamcaught.jpg

He ain't looking so great in this picture.

Being impeached is not getting kicked out of office. His trial in front of congress is impeachment.
Impeachment is not trial in fron of the Congress. Impeachment is when the US House of Representatives votes to send the case to the Senate for trial. Impeachment is the first step towards removal from office.

The House Judiciary Committee opened impeachment hearings against Nixon, but there was no vote in the House.

President Tarja Halonen, it must be.

http://www.viestintaliitto.fi/kirjatyo/2003/5/
http://www.palkkatyolainen.fi/pt2003/pt0308/p031001-t1.html

Ugliest? Kim Jong Il. How the hell did a creepy little freak like him get worhipped like a god in his country?!?

This (http://www.robpongi.com/pages/comboKIMJONGIL.html) is how.

I guess you havent seen Helen Clarke

LOL!

John Kerry... oh wait... HE LOST!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1071336844732_2003/12/15/home_saddamcaught.jpg

He ain't looking so great in this picture.

Women in his country actually commented that he looked handsome in his youth.

Viktor Yushchenko, obviously:

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/2004/Ukrainian-Yushchenko-Dioxin11dec04.jpg

And there's a point to his ugliness - he's ugly because of his politics (the Ukrainian secret service gave him ugly poison, apparently) :p So he wins.

Let the wrinkly man represent democracy. LOL!

Didn't he later admit that he glued that stuff on to appear as if he was poisoned by dioxin?

Though he probably looked worse after he'd been dug up, decapitated, and his head impaled on a pike for a couple of months.

A few months? In a history textbook I read during high school, his head remained on that pike for 20 years (of course, it would have been cooked and spiced for preservation).

Cromwell's a hero!

Kim Jong-Il: Chia Dictator.

Who is that?

No, I think the best similarity is Mr Garrison and Johnny HoWARd:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Ac.johnhoward.jpg vs http://www.csps.minx.co.uk/epiimgs/407/sp407_garrison.jpg

Haha! Howard's being compared to a gay man! ROFL!

Kim Jong-Il: Chia Dictator.

What's Chia?

What's Chia?
http://www.chia.com/

John Kerry... oh wait... HE LOST!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA.

My father think's that Bush looks like some escaped patient from a mental hospital, but Kerry looks much worst.

Oh, I love my ugly little thread...

Ugliest? Kim Jong Il. How the hell did a creepy little freak like him get worhipped like a god in his country?!?

It's one of the rules of Stalinism, whoever becomes leader shall be worshipped like a god. Stalin was worshipped like a god, he also promoted Lenin to a similar status.

Oh, I love my ugly little thread...

Be proud of it, son. The forums are not so dull because of your creation. In a few weeks time, when all the 'nominations' have been finalized, let's have a poll!

Behold The Netherlands' 'great' leader:
http://www.apologiesaccepted.com/upload/1100476383JanPotterBalkenende.jpg
http://www.osmanelmaci.nl/osmanelmaci/images/stories/diversefotos/campagnefotos/foto%208.jpg
He isn't as ugly as the other ones I know, but he still has a crappy image for an *ahem* leader.
Which inevitably lead to this:
http://www.rtl.nl/components/actueel/rtlnieuws/2002/05_mei/16/binnenland/balkenende210.jpg
And of course his politics to this:
http://www.indymedia.nl/img/2004/10/21883.jpg

Lord North (2nd British PM) is said to be the ugliest PM in British History.

Shame there's no pictures...

Women in his country actually commented that he looked handsome in his youth.

not just in his youth. he's looking pretty sexy here (http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2003/02/03/saddam-hussein-casual.jpg)

Haha! Howard's being compared to a gay man! ROFL!
Eek, don't accuse me of being homophobic, I'm gay myself.

Viktor Yushchenko, obviously:

http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/2004/Ukrainian-Yushchenko-Dioxin11dec04.jpg

And there's a point to his ugliness - he's ugly because of his politics (the Ukrainian secret service gave him ugly poison, apparently) :p So he wins.
I don't think that counts as he suffered that for his country.

not just in his youth. he's looking pretty sexy here (http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2003/02/03/saddam-hussein-casual.jpg)

What about this one?

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/22/xin_1905022109470832132319.jpg


What a hunk.

What about this one?

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-05/22/xin_1905022109470832132319.jpg


What a hunk.

:eek: OMG! that's so hot! :fluffle:

Either William Henry Harrison http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/images/wh9.gif, Andrew Jackson http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/images/aj7.gif, John Tyler http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/images/jt10_1.gif, or John Adams http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/images/ja6.gif

Ahh the uglory of the American Presidents

The New Zealand National (read conservative) party of NZ seems to go out of it's way to have ugly people fronting them.
Robert Muldoon:
http://www.primeminister.govt.nz/oldpms/images/pm28.jpg
Jim Bolger:
http://www.arbeit-wirtschaft.at/aw_02_2000/bilder/art3x4.jpg
Jenny Shipley:
http://www.executive.govt.nz/96-99/images/shipley.jpg
She's even more scary when she attempts to smile:
http://www.executive.govt.nz/96-99/images/shipley2.jpg

Of course Labour had Mike Moore:
http://www.primeminister.govt.nz/oldpms/images/pm31.jpg



So it'd be almost even, if not for National's Ruth Richardson:
http://www.newmedia.ufm.edu.gt/imagenes/fiscalresponsibility.jpg
Doncha just love the shoulder pads?

The swedish king in his youth:
http://prendergastlibrary.org/Extra!Extra!/Swedish%20King/Carl%20XVI%20Gustaf.jpg

And now:
http://www.royalcourt.se/images/18.53abbbfd7ffdfa677fff987/HMKuniform042.jpg

Another good pic:
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-60443/zetterling/Por/por01.jpg

Not as ugly as many of the others, but...

But our princesses:

Victoria, our future queen:
http://historiska-personer.nu/min-s/pbc45af550.jpg (couldn´t find a better pic, she is more beautiful)

And her babysister, Madeleine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PrMadwebb2.jpg#file

And one with both of them:
http://svt.se/content/1/c6/15/09/63/sessor290.jpg

I´ve gotten of topic, so I´ll add someone ugly.
http://musee.delaresistance.free.fr/enligne/Biographies/Madeleine%20Normand.JPG

Not sure if she was a leader, couldn´t find too much info on her...

I´ve gotten of topic, so I´ll add someone ugly.
http://musee.delaresistance.free.fr/enligne/Biographies/Madeleine%20Normand.JPG

Not sure if she was a leader, couldn´t find too much info on her...
It's a 'she'? How can you tell?

I'd say the whole human race - can only be compared to the big rock that hit our planet 65 000 000 years ago.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/asia/jan-june00/koreas_6.jpg
Kim Jong Il

Helen Clark, New Zealand's prime minister is some communistic bull dyke!

http://www.kiwinews.co.nz/uploads/helengrad.jpg

It intrigues me, as a resident of New Zealand, how people think that, just because she's slightly left of Don Brash (New Zealand's opposition leader, the head of the Right Wing "National" party), that she's a "communist".
It's like saying that Clinton was a Left-Winger just because he's slightly left of Bush. Simply put, it ain't so. They call her "centre-left" simply because she's an alternative to the uber-business, anti-humanist ( subhumanist, more like!) National Party and ACT party.

She's relatively intelligent (let's be real here. Many of these world leaders are fools or, if they're not, they certainly seem to act the part, or get caught acting the part), with a working knowledge of Japanese and who attempts to do the best she can with the parliament that she's working with
(coalition).
I'm going to vote like I usually do i.e. for the lesser of a whole bunch of evils, rather than for any policies that I like. And hers and that coalition are closer to what I want than what the others are suggesting.

But yeah, you're right about one thing: she ain't much to look at!

Jenny Shipley:
http://www.executive.govt.nz/96-99/images/shipley.jpg
She's even more scary when she attempts to smile:
http://www.executive.govt.nz/96-99/images/shipley2.jpg
The first one looks like Robin Williams and the second looks like Elton John

It's a 'she'? How can you tell?

I agree, it looks like one bad cross-dresser, all that´s lacking is a beard! Looks like it´s a bit of moustache there as well...

EDIT:Wait! It says Madeleine Normand in the URL.

Lord North (http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/images/2003/north.jpg)

Thankee Burmesia for pointing out puggins there :D

I'm not sure who's the ugliest current world leader, but I certainly know who's the coolest looking!

Junichiro Koizumo! (http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/GEM_G8_Junichiro_Koizumi.jpg)

Incorrect. Not only was he not impeached, he did have a state funeral, at least according to my recollection. This site seems to support my memory: Funeral Services of President Nixon (http://www.nixonfoundation.org/Research_Center/Nixons/RichardNixonFuneral.shtml)

Wikipedia is not necessarily the most accurate of sources, but it says that based on his own wishes, he did not have a state funeral (regardless of the fact that all living former presidents + Bill Clinton attended), though that does imply that he was at least eligible for one. Man, Nixon was an %#$%#, but he did have a certain kind of personal honor that's been mostly lacking ever since he resigned.

I would say, as well as bringing the UK to the brink of being a third world country, hes a pug-ugly yutz:

http://www.wwwk.co.uk/images/people/james-callaghan.jpg

And he only died recently.


On a separate note, I wouldnt mind being a prince in Sweden right now!

Eek, don't accuse me of being homophobic, I'm gay myself.

That's not something to be proud of.

The New Zealand National (read conservative) party of NZ seems to go out of it's way to have ugly people fronting them.

Better than New Zealand Labour (read communist) Party's pack of fags!

Helen Clark:

http://rodneyhide.com/Diary/wp-images/uploads/helen%20clark.jpghttp://flatrock.org.nz/topics/working/assets/helen_clark.jpg

Parakura Horomia:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0102/6a8d29ba1f9c23119b80.jpeg

There's plenty of other, that the rest of the country would agree with.

:eek: OMG! that's so hot! :fluffle:

I wouldn't be surprised if there are women insurgents. LOL!

I'm not sure who's the ugliest current world leader, but I certainly know who's the coolest looking!

Junichiro Koizumo! (http://www.electrifyingtimes.com/GEM_G8_Junichiro_Koizumi.jpg)

Most non-Japanese Asians think that Koizumi's the ugliest man on the f*ckin' continent! He's ideologically ugly as well, considering that he's some wannabe war criminal.

Speaking of war criminals, Japan's WWII-era emporer, Hiro-f*ckin'-hito is also an ugly piece of sh*t!

http://www.imagecabin.com/images/Q1k28542.jpg

It intrigues me, as a resident of New Zealand, how people think that, just because she's slightly left of Don Brash (New Zealand's opposition leader, the head of the Right Wing "National" party), that she's a "communist".
It's like saying that Clinton was a Left-Winger just because he's slightly left of Bush. Simply put, it ain't so. They call her "centre-left" simply because she's an alternative to the uber-business, anti-humanist ( subhumanist, more like!) National Party and ACT party.

She's relatively intelligent (let's be real here. Many of these world leaders are fools or, if they're not, they certainly seem to act the part, or get caught acting the part), with a working knowledge of Japanese and who attempts to do the best she can with the parliament that she's working with
(coalition).
I'm going to vote like I usually do i.e. for the lesser of a whole bunch of evils, rather than for any policies that I like. And hers and that coalition are closer to what I want than what the others are suggesting.

But yeah, you're right about one thing: she ain't much to look at!


If Helen Clark is so smart then she wouldn't have produced anti-cultural policies such as more rights for Maoris, breaking up the essence of families, having an over-emphasis of human rights and imposing political correctness. If she's so smart then I fail to see why she's the blame for all of the nation's ills.

Lesser evils? Communism is the enemy of all mankind and she's dragging us closer to that path.

One thing I don't understand is how could an ugly bastard like Hitler be attractive to women of the time. Some argue that he was one of the ugliest politicians ever.

"What an ugly piece of sh*t!" Was my father's reaction when he first saw a picture of Hitler.

Queen Noor is hot. Rumsfeld is hideous. He is more wrinkly than Palpatine.

Most non-Japanese Asians think that Koizumi's the ugliest man on the f*ckin' continent! He's ideologically ugly as well, considering that he's some wannabe war criminal.

Speaking of war criminals, Japan's WWII-era emporer, Hiro-f*ckin'-hito is also an ugly piece of sh*t!

http://www.imagecabin.com/images/Q1k28542.jpg
he's not ugly, hes jsut an old japanese guy

Sorry, but no one beats Maggie:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/562px-Margaret_Thatcher.jpg

"Mmmmm, living flesh..."

George Bush, Saddam Hussein, Inside And Out!!!

Sorry, but no one beats Maggie

Nobody beats Koizumi.

Franklin Roosevelt, Kim Jong-il, Leonid Brezhnev, Manuel Noriega, Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq, Kim Il-sung, Mao Tse-tung, Deng Xiaoping, John Kerry (okay, technically he ain't a world leader), Mikhail Gorbachev (that ugly red spot, man, that ugly red spot on his forehead!), Jimmy Carter (eh...what's up, doc?), Gerhard Schroeder, George W. Bush, Jacques Chirac, Alfredo Stroessner as an old man (he wasn't bad looking when he was younger, though).

One thing I don't understand is how could an ugly bastard like Hitler be attractive to women of the time. Some argue that he was one of the ugliest politicians ever.

"What an ugly piece of sh*t!" Was my father's reaction when he first saw a picture of Hitler.

Seconded.

Gorbachev began the revival of the democratic process in the Soviet Union that ultimately led to it's dismantling. He became the first freely elected president of Russia. He's the recipient of a Nobel Peace Prize.

You don't believe that bull about the "Soviet collapse" do you? And Gorbachev was never elected. Elections weren't held until after the phony "collapse."

Nobody beats Koizumi.
Jiang Zemin has got him beat bad.
http://www.asia-home.com/china/images/jiangzm.jpg
I don't think Koizumi stands out at all, he just looks like a random average guy.

Jiang Zemin has got him beat bad.

I don't think Koizumi stands out at all, he just looks like a random average guy.

Jiang's not as ugly as Mao or Kim Jong-Il.

Jiang's not as ugly as Mao or Kim Jong-Il.

Or Deng Xiaoping...

Mao was actually quite dashing when he was younger, and even when he became a geezer he looked pretty normal except for his fucked up teeth. Deng wasn't too grotesque either, he has always looked like any average wrinkly old man (although he started getting that look at age 30 or so). Kim Jong Il is definitely an ugly motherfucker.

Mao was actually quite dashing when he was younger, and even when he became a geezer he looked pretty normal except for his fucked up teeth. Deng wasn't too grotesque either, he has always looked like any average wrinkly old man (although he started getting that look at age 30 or so). Kim Jong Il is definitely an ugly motherfucker.

Mao didn't fatten up after he gained power, he was also slightly taller than Chiang. Pity how Mao prefered to dress in pyjamas rather than proper military uniforms. Deng spend a lot of time in prison, I would be suprised if he didn't look old. The current Hu looks about 50 but he's actually over 60.

You don't believe that bull about the "Soviet collapse" do you? And Gorbachev was never elected. Elections weren't held until after the phony "collapse."
'Phony collapse' eh? Are you a conspirologist in the mould of Angleton and his ilk?

How's this?

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FUGLY :mp5:

If Helen Clark is so smart then she wouldn't have produced anti-cultural policies such as more rights for Maoris, breaking up the essence of families, having an over-emphasis of human rights and imposing political correctness. If she's so smart then I fail to see why she's the blame for all of the nation's ills.

Lesser evils? Communism is the enemy of all mankind and she's dragging us closer to that path.
Quite. That's why during Labour's terms in office NZ has had:
The largest sustained growth economic rates (over 4% annual growth rate since they came into office) for decades. Resulting in a huge housing price boom which I wish I'd had the money to invest in 3 years ago. Prices have risen by 46% on average nationwide in that time;
The lowest unemployment in 30 years (3.6%);
Real rises in wages;
A very strong NZ dollar, that increased it's value over the last 4 years against the greenback by nearly 200% (also improved against all other major currencies);
Low inflation (been under 2.5% for the last 5 years);
A healthy growth rate in the Stock market (which hit record highs this week);
A reduction in National debt. In 1995 when National were in power it was 34% of GDP. Last year it stood at 10% of GDP;
and finally:
An upgrade in Standard & Poor's credit rating (AA+, behind the US at AAA but ahead of Japan at AA-).

All because they 'communist fags' who are leading the country to destruction. :rolleyes:

Tell me, do you ever connect willingly with the real world at any time?

Oh, and how dare a leader of a country want to 'over-emphasis' human rights! How one can 'over-emphasis' human rights is beyond me, but still it must be a terrible thing to do.

'Phony collapse' eh? Are you a conspirologist in the mould of Angleton and his ilk?

Communists are still in power. Ex-president Yeltsin was a longtime member of the Communist Party. President Putin was a KGB colonel. Many political figures in Russia and the 'former' Soviet republics are communists masquerading as ex-communists. What few changes there are, are merely tactical ones. They're following Lenin's advice: "It is necessary sometimes to take one step backward, so we may take two steps forward." Three good books I'd recommend are New Lies For Old and The Perestroika Deception by Anatoliy Golitsyn (a Soviet who defected to the West), and Through the Eyes of the Enemy by Stanislav Lunev (another Soviet defector).

Yeltsin and Putin were Party members, but in what way it is relevant now? We do have the Communist Party among the other opposition parties, BTW. You may point your finger at them and scream 'Commie!!', but that's plain absurd.

Tactical changes... you've read too much Golitsyn. The guy screamed, par example, in the 1960s that the Soviet-China split was a ruse -- he couldn't prove it, of course. The defectors will write anything to make some money, I'd venture to say.

Russia is struggling to survive, not to dominate the world. Our population is in freefall, our economy is inefficient and supported only by selling oil. How on Earth we are supposed to dominate the world?

BTW, do you know what exactly Mr Lenin was talking about?

Yeltsin and Putin were Party members, but in what way it is relevant now? We do have the Communist Party among the other opposition parties, BTW. You may point your finger at them and scream 'Commie!!', but that's plain absurd.

Tactical changes... you've read too much Golitsyn. The guy screamed, par example, in the 1960s that the Soviet-China split was a ruse -- he couldn't prove it, of course. The defectors will write anything to make some money, I'd venture to say.

Russia is struggling to survive, not to dominate the world. Our population is in freefall, our economy is inefficient and supported only by selling oil. How on Earth we are supposed to dominate the world?

BTW, do you know what exactly Mr Lenin was talking about?

A tiger that changes its stripes is still a tiger. If, at the end of World War II, all the Nazis tore off their Swastika insignia and proclaimed they were no longer Nazis, would that make it so?

Most Russians don't want to dominate the world. I've had the pleasure of meeting several Russians myself, and they are among the friendliest, sweetest people I've ever met.

The Sino-Soviet rift was indeed a ruse. It's a classic communist strategy. The U.S. likes to play the game "good communist, bad communist." Therefore, if the communists pretend to fight, one side will have to be 'good' and the other 'bad.' Example: when Tito pretended to break with Stalin, Tito became the 'good' communist and received considerable Western support. After the alleged Sino-Soviet rift, Mao became the 'bad' communist and Khrushchev became the 'good' communist for awhile. Then in the early 70s, the Soviets were the bad guys again and the Red Chinese were the good guys. In the early 70s, Pol Pot was a 'bad communist,' but after the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia, all of a sudden he became a 'good communist.' Likewise, Ceacescau (sp?) of Romania, and others, became at times 'good' communists.

A tiger that changes its stripes is still a tiger. If, at the end of World War II, all the Nazis tore off their Swastika insignia and proclaimed they were no longer Nazis, would that make it so?
Bad example. Federal Chancellor Kiesinger, spymaster Gehlen, General Heusinger, the author of the Nuremberg Laws Globke did just that, among many others. They 'tore off Swastikas' and became West German politicians, officials, and military leaders.

Most Russians don't want to dominate the world. I've had the pleasure of meeting several Russians myself, and they are among the friendliest, sweetest people I've ever met.
Thanks.

The Sino-Soviet rift was indeed a ruse. It's a classic communist strategy. The U.S. likes to play the game "good communist, bad communist." Therefore, if the communists pretend to fight, one side will have to be 'good' and the other 'bad.' Example: when Tito pretended to break with Stalin, Tito became the 'good' communist and received considerable Western support. After the alleged Sino-Soviet rift, Mao became the 'bad' communist and Khrushchev became the 'good' communist for awhile. Then in the early 70s, the Soviets were the bad guys again and the Red Chinese were the good guys. In the early 70s, Pol Pot was a 'bad communist,' but after the Vietnamese invaded Cambodia, all of a sudden he became a 'good communist.' Likewise, Ceacescau (sp?) of Romania, and others, became at times 'good' communists.
I don't think that you can find anyone other than Angleton and Golitsyn to back up your assertions.

BTW, wouldn't you mind to source your Lenin quote?

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They're following Lenin's advice: "It is necessary sometimes to take one step backward, so we may take two steps forward." ...
Yes, I know... the quote is:

One step forward, two steps back

So, what was Mr Lenin talking about?

Quite. That's why during Labour's terms in office NZ has had:
The largest sustained growth economic rates (over 4% annual growth rate since they came into office) for decades. Resulting in a huge housing price boom which I wish I'd had the money to invest in 3 years ago. Prices have risen by 46% on average nationwide in that time;
The lowest unemployment in 30 years (3.6%);
Real rises in wages;
A very strong NZ dollar, that increased it's value over the last 4 years against the greenback by nearly 200% (also improved against all other major currencies);
Low inflation (been under 2.5% for the last 5 years);
A healthy growth rate in the Stock market (which hit record highs this week);
A reduction in National debt. In 1995 when National were in power it was 34% of GDP. Last year it stood at 10% of GDP;
and finally:
An upgrade in Standard & Poor's credit rating (AA+, behind the US at AAA but ahead of Japan at AA-).

All because they 'communist fags' who are leading the country to destruction. :rolleyes:

Tell me, do you ever connect willingly with the real world at any time?

Oh, and how dare a leader of a country want to 'over-emphasis' human rights! How one can 'over-emphasis' human rights is beyond me, but still it must be a terrible thing to do.

By the time the third term of Helen Clark is over, all of the above would have become undone. Labour has failed contribute significantly to economic issues, while harvesting the good work of the previous National government's economic policies that have bore fruit.

With the decrease in consumer confidence and the early signs of housing market slowing down, it would all come tumbling down if National is not voted in to keep the economic peace.

Definitely, Señor Falangista isn't keen on Lenin.

In his work Lenin was saying that the foundation of the Party is 'a step forward', but intra-Party factionalism is 'two steps back'. The 'complaint' was written in 1904.