NationStates Jolt Archive

That's right kids, it's time for fun with circular logic. How does it work? Well its really quite simple, you try to prove a point (not neccesarily a good one) using circular logic. Then the player above you has to refute your statement also using CL.
I will start:
I dropped a pencil on the floor, someone picked it up. Since someone picked it up, it must've happened for a reason. Therefore fate exist.

But since he picked it up, that proves that it wasn't intended to be on the floor in the first place. If so it wouldn't have fallen. Therefore fate does not exist.

(Catching on fast, aren't I Kervoskia? :D)

Many people are religious, why would there be so many religious people if God didn't exist? Obviously God is real

But since he picked it up, that proves that it wasn't intended to be on the floor in the first place. If so it wouldn't have fallen. Therefore fate does not exist.

(Catching on fast, aren't I Kervoskia? :D)
Damn you're good. Since that was knocked down let's use an obvious one:
Every object has a maker. The earth is an object, so it has a maker. God is a creator of life, so God created the earth. Therefore ID is correct.

Damn you're good. Since that was knocked down let's use an obvious one:
Every object has a maker. The earth is an object, so it has a maker. God is a creator of life, so God created the earth. Therefore ID is correct.However, the earth is not alive, only the things living on it. Therefore God did not create the earth. Therefore He is not supreme and someone else must have created it. Therefore Christianity is wrong.

However, the earth is not alive, only the things living on it. Therefore God did not create the earth. Therefore He is not supreme and someone else must have created it. Therefore Christianity is wrong.however, many cultures as well as several mythos/religions has a "Mother Earth" figure representing the planet, a Gaian spirit. thus the earth is alive and God does exsist.

however, many cultures as well as several mythos/religions has a "Mother Earth" figure representing the planet, a Gaian spirit. thus the earth is alive and God does exsist.Seeing is believing. Since no-one has ever seen this earth figure, therefore they cannot believe in it. If they do they are wrong. Therefore God does not exist, because all those who believe in him are wrong. :)

however, many cultures as well as several mythos has a "Mother Earth" figure representing the planet, a Gaian spirit. thus the earth is alive and God does exsist.
"The Bible," or the book of Christianity, makes no mention of Mother Earth. Therefore, it is the tale of the happenings in another part of the Galaxy, that some how landed in the area of modern-day Israel around 2000 years ago. Thus proving that God DOES exist, but that he is not the creator of Earth, nor life on Earth.

"The Bible," or the book of Christianity, makes no mention of Mother Earth. Therefore, it is the tale of the happenings in another part of the Galaxy, that some how landed in the area of modern-day Israel around 2000 years ago. Thus proving that God DOES exist, but that he is not the creator of Earth, nor life on Earth.But as that refutes Christian teachings, it shows that either God does not exist, or Christianity does not. If God did not create the earth or life on Earth, then Christianity crumbles. Therefore the 2.1 billion people who believe in Christianity are all wrong. Therefore, they have no religion. Those with no religion are atheists. Therefore, a majority of the world's people are atheists.

But as that refutes Christian teachings, it shows that either God does not exist, or Christianity does not. If God did not create the earth or life on Earth, then Christianity crumbles. Therefore the 2.1 billion people who believe in Christianity are all wrong. Therefore, they have no religion. Those with no religion are atheists. Therefore, a majority of the world's people are atheists.
Your assessment is inaccurate. It shows that God does is exist and Christianity, while it exists, is inaccurate. There are many world religions, and essentially all of them assert that they are correct and other religions are wrong, which does not nullify the existence of any religion, therefore Christianity still exists, and probably denies the claims put forth in my earlier argument.

But as that refutes Christian teachings, it shows that either God does not exist, or Christianity does not. If God did not create the earth or life on Earth, then Christianity crumbles. Therefore the 2.1 billion people who believe in Christianity are all wrong. Therefore, they have no religion. Those with no religion are atheists. Therefore, a majority of the world's people are atheists.ah, but it doesn't refute christian teachings, for it only states that God created the world and everything else, thus Eden, is actually a planet and when Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden, they were infact trasplanted to Earth.

Edit: is this acceptable.?
Thus all UFO sightings are people seeing God checking up on us.

ah, but it doesn't refute christian teachings, for it only states that God created the world and everything else, thus Eden, is actually a planet and when Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden, they were infact trasplanted to Earth.

Thus God exsist and is actually an Asguardian named Thor.
Okay...I'll buy the first part, but this game isn't going to be any fun if stuff like your last name comes up. You just added that on without even TRYING to make up a logical excuse.

But since he picked it up, that proves that it wasn't intended to be on the floor in the first place. If so it wouldn't have fallen. Therefore fate does not exist.

(Catching on fast, aren't I Kervoskia? :D)
while the other one is going on,... I want to touch on the pencil. (ohhh... so smooth...)

But the second person was fated to pick up the pencil (because he did) and In order for that to happen, the pencil needed to be in a state to be picked up. thus it fell... Fate exists.

Okay...I'll buy the first part, but this game isn't going to be any fun if stuff like your last name comes up. You just added that on without even TRYING to make up a logical excuse.
Sorry, it's a refference to Stargate SG-1. so i'll go back and edit it out.

But as that refutes Christian teachings, it shows that either God does not exist, or Christianity does not. If God did not create the earth or life on Earth, then Christianity crumbles. Therefore the 2.1 billion people who believe in Christianity are all wrong. Therefore, they have no religion. Those with no religion are atheists. Therefore, a majority of the world's people are atheists.
Correction, the world is composed of agnostics. Athiests belive no god exists. doesn't apply in that particular circle.

while the other one is going on,... I want to touch on the pencil. (ohhh... so smooth...)

But the second person was fated to pick up the pencil (because he did) and In order for that to happen, the pencil needed to be in a state to be picked up. thus it fell... Fate exists.
Since an action needs a cause, which is driven by fate, all actions require such. However, if the first action was indeed the first then nothing caused it. If nothing caused it then there it wasn't fate. Therefore fate is not the driving force behind actions. (I gave it my best shot)

Since an action needs a cause, which is driven by fate, all actions require such. However, if the first action was indeed the first then nothing caused it. If nothing caused it then there it wasn't fate. Therefore fate is not the driving force behind actions. (I gave it my best shot)
But we only perceive the first action as being the first because you have not given us enough detail. The first action, after all, was YOU dropping a pencil. Were you spooked? Do you have some medical history of having bad hands? Did you simply drop the pencil to test your theory of fate? Or did some divine intervention happen, forcing you to drop the pencil in order to prove the theory of fate to you?

Correction, the world is composed of agnostics. Athiests belive no god exists. doesn't apply in that particular circle.
What's an athiest? I assume that's the one who is most athi of all...but what does athi mean?

What's an athiest? I assume that's the one who is most athi of all...but what does athi mean?I think "athi" is a slang term for "gay". :p Of course it could also mean "whore", but that doesn't make as much sense.

I think "athi" is a slang term for "gay". :p Of course it could also mean "whore", but that doesn't make as much sense.
This from someone whose forum title is "AdminBots Boyfriend"

...heh. Just kidding.

but who's to say what the first action was. Could it have been when you decided to use a pencil instead of a pen? why did you choose the pencil, or was the pencil chosen, by fate, for you. thus, it was the pencil that dropped because it was the pencil that needed to be picked up. Perhaps you were born for the sole reason to drop the pencil in the first place. thus your fate was sealed from the time of birth. Just as it was the second person's fate to pick up that pencil... thus fate does drive actions.
About 13 minutes late.

Hmmm. I understood some of this and thought about the meaning so, I think therefore I am, so then since you didn't think of the stupid people who are reading this so I have no proof you all exest!!! HA :D yay
But then I never thought that you didn't exist so then I don't! :headbang:

many people post arguments,
therefore they must know what the f%&^ they are talking about. then to know what you are talking about, you must be educated. therefore, all people are educated

This thread exists because there is at least one message in it, which is this very message you're reading right now.

but you did not start this thread,so the one that existed was not thine, but that of another :rolleyes:

but you did not start this thread,so the one that existed was not thine, but that of another :rolleyes:

Since he said his was the sole message, he lied. Since he lied, we can presume that he lies on a common basis. If he does so, people will become used to his lies, and the only way he can get the truth across is by consciously making a decision to lie. Therefore, it is reasonable to state that he was, in fact, making an effort to tell the truth that he did indeed make the prime post in this topic, that truth and falsities are thus identical and the statement that I am in fact a purple dolphin with green spots who has visited mars recently is just as valid as any refutation you could put forward to the contrary.