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I would like to start up a new religion

Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 17:34
I would like to start up a new religion...this religion would NOT involve ritual sacrafice, rape, food-gathering, giving money - i.e. this isn't a cult like Christianity. There would be no services, forced or otherwise. There would be no vicar/priest/preistess/etc. Basically, this religion would be just a load of like minded guys and gals that wanted to have a nice time talking about religious stuff but didn't neccesarily share beleifs about holy people, holy books, or holy hell etc.

Anyone interested?

Poll coming!!
Drunk commies deleted
09-07-2005, 17:36
Wouldn't that make you a Unitarian?
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 17:37
Wouldn't that make you a Unitarian?

Dunno, never heard of em.....what do they do?
Dragons Bay
09-07-2005, 17:38
Which means you're doing nothing.
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 17:40
Which means you're doing nothing.

No, because the other thing about my religion is that only good people that want to help other people are allowed to join.
Dragons Bay
09-07-2005, 17:42
No, because the other thing about my religion is that only good people that want to help other people are allowed to join.

Then start a charity.
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 17:45
Then start a charity.

Nope, charities involve too many meetings etc, we don't believe in meetings.
Dragons Bay
09-07-2005, 17:46
Nope, charities involve too many meetings etc, we don't believe in meetings.

Then you already have it. Max Berry created it long before you did, lol. Right here on NS!
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 17:48
Then you already have it. Max Berry created it long before you did, lol. Right here on NS!

That doesn't count, nor does Join-Me ( I'm a member of both, just thought it was cool)
Dragons Bay
09-07-2005, 17:51
What's a religion without a deity?
The Arch Wobbly
09-07-2005, 17:54
What's a religion without a deity?

I'll be your god, if you want.
Daistallia 2104
09-07-2005, 17:54
Dunno, never heard of em.....what do they do?

http://www.uua.org/

Check 'em out.
Dragons Bay
09-07-2005, 17:55
I'll be your god, if you want.

I already have one, thank you. :p
Drunk commies deleted
09-07-2005, 17:56
Dunno, never heard of em.....what do they do?
They get together, hold church services, and let all the members basically make up their own mind what they beleive. At least that's my understanding. One of my friends is a Unitarian and his church celebrates both Christian and non-christian holidays.
Sick Dreams
09-07-2005, 17:57
I'm an atheist. But I love to help people, I'm kind to animals, I don't steal or lie, and I live by "do unto others as you would have others do unto you"
BUT........ I'm a major beer drinker, and somewhat of a pot connissuer. Can I still be a part of your religion?
Squirrel Nuts
09-07-2005, 18:05
As a neo-hippie stoner coffee addicted pill popper frequent masturbater can I still join?
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 18:07
They get together, hold church services, and let all the members basically make up their own mind what they beleive. At least that's my understanding. One of my friends is a Unitarian and his church celebrates both Christian and non-christian holidays.

Then no, nothing like em, I already said.....NO CHURCH SERVICES!!
Clan Ansu
09-07-2005, 18:13
Then no, nothing like em, I already said.....NO CHURCH SERVICES!!

So, no getting together, no god, no donations...No anything, really.

It appeals more than most. You should make badges.
Kalawak
09-07-2005, 18:18
I would like to start up a new religion...this religion would NOT involve ritual sacrafice, rape, food-gathering, giving money - i.e. this isn't a cult like Christianity. There would be no services, forced or otherwise. There would be no vicar/priest/preistess/etc. Basically, this religion would be just a load of like minded guys and gals that wanted to have a nice time talking about religious stuff but didn't neccesarily share beleifs about holy people, holy books, or holy hell etc.

Anyone interested?

Poll coming!!
Sounds like some parties. They happen all the time!
The Similized world
09-07-2005, 18:25
I'm in. A religion without anything religious about it would be nice. And a great comeback to all the evangelists. We need to come up with a nifty name tho. Maybe Sheenaism? Picking the name of some random girl, like some other notable religions did with guys, seems like a good idea. And it trendy as hell :)
Zincite
09-07-2005, 18:26
Not sure if that makes a religion, but I'll join anyway!
The Similized world
09-07-2005, 18:30
Just pretend I'm a magician. If you do, you believe in the supernatural because of our religion, and thus, we are a religion :D
Kamsaki
09-07-2005, 18:35
Hmm... I would join, but I think I'm already a member of about 3 other religions. Is that okay?
Fhqwhgadsz
09-07-2005, 18:42
So basically, you want to start up a religious club? It sounds like you want to sit around and talk with other people, no matter what their religion. NOT exactly its own religon , is it? YOu need more boundaries first, and probably some sort of permit and a ton of paperwork, and to be at least 18. >.<
Of the underpants
09-07-2005, 19:10
So basically, you want to start up a religious club? It sounds like you want to sit around and talk with other people, no matter what their religion. NOT exactly its own religon , is it? YOu need more boundaries first, and probably some sort of permit and a ton of paperwork, and to be at least 18. >.<

Well I'm 19 at the end of the month so that;s that one covered......it IS it's own religion and I have just named it: Ozzytarianism (nothing to do with ozzy ozbourne)
SuperFerret
09-07-2005, 19:17
What's a religion without a deity?

Buddhism?
Unblogged
09-07-2005, 19:19
This is just a discussion club...not a religion (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Areligion&btnG=Google+Search).
Letila
09-07-2005, 20:55
Base your mythology on Neon Genesis Evangelion and various hentai.
The Similized world
09-07-2005, 21:12
Why not just proclaim we have a strong belief that all practitioners can perform miracles, but are unwilling to? It can't get much more religious than that, can it?

Gotta say tho, that name is shit! You gotta do better than that. Plus, that would be the first reformation (I think). Nifty, eh?
Commercial Drive
09-07-2005, 21:25
Sounds like Wicca to me... which is an ace religion with the same few boundaries you are suggesting. (Being a good person, tolerant of others' beliefs etc.)
Kalawak
09-07-2005, 21:39
Then no, nothing like em, I already said.....NO CHURCH SERVICES!!

Ah... then how do you talk with other people? Christian "services" are merely vehicles for connecting with others. Some are formal, yes, but others are cafes and informal gatherings, others are virtual, on the internet.

So your religion is a group of people who never talk or connect with each other in any way then?

Sounds like fun... not. What's the difference between that and the lonely existence half of the planet already exists in?
Ham-o
09-07-2005, 21:43
I'll be your god, if you want.

hahahaha.
Of the underpants
10-07-2005, 14:44
The religion has changed....it is now called....Macinism. We believe in peace, love harmony and other religions. We allow Satanists, because they are actually pretty damn good people. Swearing isn't allowed, but then that's because swearing doesn't exist - there are no swear words, they're all just, well, words. We meet when and only when we can be bothered - if we can't be bothered to show up, we don't, and when we do meet up it is to enjoy the cornicopia of love that we have created by embracing all other religions into one bigger religion. There is one god, or several, or whatever our members choose to believe - maybe there isn't a god at all. We follow the teachings of no religious book, but maybe all religious books....perhaps even every religious book is our religious book - i.e. if all the books say be kind and love your neighbour, then we will be kind and love our neighbour. If all the religious books say go out and preach then....erm....we don't because that is one of the only things that is against ur religion, we will not convert people that don't want to be converted. Our religion is not the only religion, it is also not the most important religion, hell christianity probably is, or buddhism. But our religion does not descriminate.....let me emphasise that point again.... DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE against anyone, homosexuals, so called other "races", women, people with disabilities, they are all one within our religion, our religion embraces all life whether big or small. We are not vegetarian, though our members are allowed to be if they really want, nor are we cannibals unless our members really want, and even then only by the permission of the person whom will be eaten (LOL). We don't believe in anything, we believe in everything. I thank you for listening. :fluffle:
Of the underpants
10-07-2005, 14:54
As answer to someone, can't remember who right now... No one god is believed in - so we don't have our own god. we "steal" our gods from other religions - the reason we are different from other religions is that we don't discriminate between religions - we are all religions.
Mazalandia
11-07-2005, 07:14
SOunds like the United Church in the Commonwealth Books by Alan Dean Foster. Do you accept aliens that look like 1.7 metre tall praying mantis with space travel?
Of the underpants
11-07-2005, 10:00
SOunds like the United Church in the Commonwealth Books by Alan Dean Foster. Do you accept aliens that look like 1.7 metre tall praying mantis with space travel?

As long as they're part of some existing religion, we accept all gods.
Keruvalia
11-07-2005, 16:09
Not interested, but if you're in the United States, anything you say is your religion, is your religion. So, if you're in the US, knock yourself out. The US doesn't establish religions, but the people are more than welcome to do so.
Kalawak
11-07-2005, 16:29
As answer to someone, can't remember who right now... No one god is believed in - so we don't have our own god. we "steal" our gods from other religions - the reason we are different from other religions is that we don't discriminate between religions - we are all religions.

Ah. No different from either Bahai'ism, Hinduism or strands of New Age religion.

How is your thing "new" again?
Kalawak
11-07-2005, 16:32
But our religion does not descriminate.....let me emphasise that point again.... DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE against anyone, homosexuals, so called other "races", women, people with disabilities, they are all one within our religion, our religion embraces all life whether big or small.

Sounds like Christianity. Anyone can know God through Christ, whether they be Jew, Gay, Black, homeless, a soldier, anyone. ALL ARE ONE IN CHRIST.

From the bible:
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Keruvalia
11-07-2005, 16:36
Sounds like Christianity. Anyone can know God through Christ, whether they be Jew, Gay, Black, homeless, a soldier, anyone. ALL ARE ONE IN CHRIST.

From the bible:
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Aye ... but what if you don't accept Christ? Being one under Christ is nice and all, but what of the 4 billion people on the planet who are not "under Christ"?
Kalawak
11-07-2005, 16:58
Aye ... but what if you don't accept Christ? Being one under Christ is nice and all, but what of the 4 billion people on the planet who are not "under Christ"?

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Romans 2:11-16

For God does not show favoritism. All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.)

This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.


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People are judged on what they know. Judged doesn't automatically mean "sent to hell", it's between them and God. Knowing Jesus, gives a person the ASSURANCE of salvation.

As to all being one, yes, when we know Jesus, we are brother and sisters with each other. Children of God. There is a palpable kinship. I've walked into churches across the globe and felt at home and in family with others who love Jesus. Whether they speak my language, are gay or straight, Chinese, Japanese, Anglo, Swedish, or Jewish. (Yes there are Jewish Christians, just like the original Christians were all Jewish)

When one knows Jesus, they're SUPPOSED to show love to their enemies as well.

Romans 12:20
On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
Of the underpants
11-07-2005, 18:50
Sounds like Christianity. Anyone can know God through Christ, whether they be Jew, Gay, Black, homeless, a soldier, anyone. ALL ARE ONE IN CHRIST.

From the bible:
Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Right, Let me set you straight (again) it is NOT christianity, but it does embrace the teachings of christianity. Nor is it Hinduism, though it embraces the teachings of hinduism. This new religion is not one religion it is all religions, which makes it new. There is NO RELIGION EXISTING ON THIS PLANET that embraces ALL RELIGIONS. Once a member of this religion, you can still have all the beliefs of your previous religion, and you are not expected to attend any sort of service whatsoever. Unless you want to that is.
Of the underpants
11-07-2005, 22:52
According to someone on this thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=431323&page=3&pp=15) this is allowed, so....
Bump.
Dempublicents1
11-07-2005, 22:59
I would like to start up a new religion...this religion would NOT involve ritual sacrafice, rape, food-gathering, giving money - i.e. this isn't a cult like Christianity. There would be no services, forced or otherwise.

Yes, I want to join a bigot's religion. Oh wait....

I'm so glad to hear that anyone who tries to follow the teachings of Christ is part of a "cult" that involves sacrifice, rape, food-gathering, and giving money.

Does the irony of saying you want a religion that "does not discriminate" while simultaneously making a bigotted statement about another religion not strike you?
Of the underpants
11-07-2005, 23:17
Yes, I want to join a bigot's religion. Oh wait....

I'm so glad to hear that anyone who tries to follow the teachings of Christ is part of a "cult" that involves sacrifice, rape, food-gathering, and giving money.

You took that out of context...what I meant was christianity is a cult, yes. and some cults have "sacrifice, rape, food-gathering" and christianity certainly has money giving.
Dempublicents1
11-07-2005, 23:19
You took that out of context...what I meant was christianity is a cult, yes. and some cults have "sacrifice, rape, food-gathering" and christianity certainly has money giving.

That all depends on what definition of cult you use. By the one most often used, Christianity would not meet the definition.

Meanwhile, there is nothing inherent in Chrstianity that involves money giving - at least not to the church. That is something that some people believe, and others do not. Most of us do believe that one should be charitable, but charity does not necessitate giving money - and it certainly doesn't necessitate giving it to a church.

Care to continue to stereotype?
Vintovia
11-07-2005, 23:27
So you're saying you want to create an Ideology, or talk about a good way to live your life and help others? Oh they all started like that in the beginning...

I think Buddhisim is the only (Major)religion still remotely close to that cause.
Of the underpants
11-07-2005, 23:50
So you're saying you want to create an Ideology, or talk about a good way to live your life and help others? Oh they all started like that in the beginning...

I think Buddhisim is the only (Major)religion still remotely close to that cause.

And we would encorporate Buddhism as with all religions, as I keep saying....do you people not read earlier posts?
Kalawak
12-07-2005, 01:45
Right, Let me set you straight (again) it is NOT christianity, but it does embrace the teachings of christianity. Nor is it Hinduism, though it embraces the teachings of hinduism. This new religion is not one religion it is all religions, which makes it new. There is NO RELIGION EXISTING ON THIS PLANET that embraces ALL RELIGIONS. Once a member of this religion, you can still have all the beliefs of your previous religion, and you are not expected to attend any sort of service whatsoever. Unless you want to that is.
I said earlier, that's a component of the Bahai religion. Dodo!
It also is a component of the Hindu faith, you can believe what you like... just call yourself a Hindu (according to some Hindus). There are Hindus who've found Jesus, and the families don;t care, as long as they keep calling themselves Hindus. That's the very nature of a pantheistic faith.

So, you're setting yourself up for the exact same issues as the Baha'is. Namely that certain teachings contradict each other, and several "truths" cannot coexist with each other.

But go rock your boat reinventing the wheel. It's been done before bozo.