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Okay, I said I might make a thread like this so here it is, first you can read the first post here if you like.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430665&page=1&pp=15

Anywho, yes I am a Columbine Massacre survivor, and was in the library were most of the deaths occured, I always saw the Ask a Jew threads and what not so here we go, ask questions, from what I saw, to how the school looked, or the rooms, or the killers, I wasnt exactly friends with Eric or Dylan but I did talk to Dylan quit alot. To the aftermath, or my time in the hospital.

So ask away.

"thread", not "threat"...sounds scary...lol...

First off I would like to give you a big hug: :fluffle: minus kissing bit... Must have been scary...!

How accurate is Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" - if you've watched it.

Are you for or against gun control? Has your stance changed because of the event?

"thread", not "threat"...sounds scary...lol...

First off I would like to give you a big hug: :fluffle: minus kissing bit... Must have been scary...!

How accurate is Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" - if you've watched it.

Are you for or against gun control? Has your stance changed because of the event?

I have always been indifferant to Micheal Moore, but I will say, all though the movie made some good points, most of his analysist of the boys, school students, and gun control were Grade A bullshit.

I dont care if people own guns, not really, I didint really have an opnion at that age anyway.

Was there anything in the weeks leading up to the event that you feel should have sent off warning bells? What was their (Dylan and Eric) relationship like with each other?

Was there anything in the weeks leading up to the event that you feel should have sent off warning bells? What was their (Dylan and Eric) relationship like with each other?

Not Really, it was a huge shock, there was an incident when someone told us that Dylan told him not to come to scho9ol that day, but other then that no.

Contrary to what you learn from the books and websites, they werent "evil" seeming, Eric wasnt really picked on but Dylan was. There relationship was just like any 2 friends, they were close, but no more or less then anyone else who is friends. The one thing that did annoy me was that Dylan would talk about communism alot, he would draw sickles and hammer all the time, but he was a nice guy really, I talked to him abit, Eric, I fuckin hated, all he ever talked about was Doom and Quake, the video games, and I always found him annoying, had he not been so obsessed with those games, he could have been a real populer fellow.

The one thing that did annoy me was that Dylan would talk about communism alot, he would draw sickles and hammer all the time, but he was a nice guy really, I talked to him abit
Not trying to get off topic, but if communism bothers you alot you're gonna have a hell of a time on these forums, cuz there are a lot of people who support communism here.

Not trying to get off topic, but if communism bothers you alot you're gonna have a hell of a time on these forums, cuz there are a lot of people who support communism here.

But then there are people like me who utterly revile it. So you should be fine, Yamolex.

My question is. Have you read this before?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9088712&postcount=4

My question is. Have you read this before?

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9088712&postcount=4

Well thats becuase most of them, were were retarded, "Ask a chicken farmer" or what not, I could easily change the name of this thread and it would be fine.

*Plkease try not to get of topic, already happened in my intro thread, we went from saying hi to eachother to crumpets*

Are we aloud to bump here?

Are we aloud to bump here?
Lots of people do, not sure if it's allowed tho.

I have only a small set of questions to ask you:

What benefit do you receive from having threads like this, and why do you feel your status as a Columbine survivor should be for public consumption like this? I'm not offended by it nor distressed, but I am curious.

It seems an interesting sort of catharsis.

Ge-Ren

I have only a small set of questions to ask you:

What benefit do you receive from having threads like this, and why do you feel your status as a Columbine survivor should be for public consumption like this? I'm not offended by it nor distressed, but I am curious.

It seems an interesting sort of catharsis.

Ge-Ren

Well, I have no personal gain, I kept getting telegrams from people with questions so I thought this would be a better way of answering anything. Every other forum I have ever belonged to knew I was a COlumbine Survivor so it only seems logical to display that here as well, and I like reminding people of it in hopes, that maybe something will click so something like it never happens again, when that I dont know his name, shot up that school on the Indian Reservation, you can tell I didint do alot of research, I was like, oh god not again.

When you were in the library while the deaths occured, what were you thinking? Because I would've thought, "Sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t!"

When you were in the library while the deaths occured, what were you thinking? Because I would've thought, "Sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t!"

It's okay to say "shit", man. Everybody does it.

It's okay to say "shit", man. Everybody does it.

Absolutely true, I'm sure. However, you have to admit, "Sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t sh*t!" is much more impressive than the other version, even if only for the value of the shift key demands if nothing else :D


On topic, my question:
What the heck does the word/name "Yamolex" mean anyway? It sounds like a cheap imitation wrist watch company name, or something like that :p

See this thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430665

Well at first I had that male mantality like, I was ready to handle whatever came in here, and I would kick there ass and leave them bleeding in the gutter and be a hero and what not, then when they actually did come in I was like "Shit Shit Shit Shit Shit!"

Yamolex was the name of a character in a book a friend of mine wrote that was never published, about a bunch of guys trapped in a house by a psychipath and forced to play a game in an uber-scary clue manner in which they had to kill each other, it was really welly wtitten and I wished it could have been published. Yamolex was the persona of the killer, or what he called himself if you will.

Did Eric or Dylan own budgerigars?

Okay, I said I might make a thread like this so here it is, first you can read the first post here if you like.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430665&page=1&pp=15

Anywho, yes I am a Columbine Massacre survivor, and was in the library were most of the deaths occured, I always saw the Ask a Jew threads and what not so here we go, ask questions, from what I saw, to how the school looked, or the rooms, or the killers, I wasnt exactly friends with Eric or Dylan but I did talk to Dylan quit alot. To the aftermath, or my time in the hospital.

So ask away.

Good to see you survived.
Why do you think they did this?
Were they after specific people for any reason you know of?

I just watched Elephant the other night.
Is this an accurate depiction of what happenned?

On your own experience, what was your innitial reaction when they opened fire in the libary, and did you feel inclined to stop them?
How did you feel about Eric and Dylan individually? The movie Elephant showed them to be homosexual in the shower scene, was this true, if so, was it something people were aware of beforehand?

Did Eric or Dylan own budgerigars?

Go to the mirror and look at the budgerigar, wave a wing.

No


I have never seen Elephant, I did see Zero Day, which was good, but not Elephant although I have heard of it. I dont know why he woudnt tell people, I can tell you withouta shadow of a doubt, Eric and Dylan were not homosexual, Eric pften expressed hatred of homosexuals.

When Mrs Nielson first ran into the library and started calling 911, I was still in the tough mantality, she kept yelling at us to "stay down" although we werent really listening we kept crawling out slightly, but when they did come it, it wasnt walk in and look around, they came in blasting, and I was another helpless victim. Its scary when your in a position, but when your completley helpless, its extrememly helpless, I did want to stop them bad, in fact a pip bomb, was thrown at our table, I picked it up weary it was ready to explode, I was moving my hand to throw it back at DYlan and Eric, which would have killed them, but they were next to a table wuth others under it so instead O threw it to the empty section of the library.

No


I have never seen Elephant, I did see Zero Day, which was good, but not Elephant although I have heard of it. I dont know why he woudnt tell people, I can tell you withouta shadow of a doubt, Eric and Dylan were not homosexual, Eric pften expressed hatred of homosexuals.

When Mrs Nielson first ran into the library and started calling 911, I was still in the tough mantality, she kept yelling at us to "stay down" although we werent really listening we kept crawling out slightly, but when they did come it, it wasnt walk in and look around, they came in blasting, and I was another helpless victim. Its scary when your in a position, but when your completley helpless, its extrememly helpless, I did want to stop them bad, in fact a pip bomb, was thrown at our table, I picked it up weary it was ready to explode, I was moving my hand to throw it back at DYlan and Eric, which would have killed them, but they were next to a table wuth others under it so instead O threw it to the empty section of the library.

That's an incredibly difficult position to be in, I can't even begin to comprehend what you were going through. I can only hope I never have to face a situation like that myself.

Thanks Yamolex, and what you did was brave.

That's an incredibly difficult position to be in, I can't even begin to comprehend what you were going through. I can only hope I never have to face a situation like that myself.

I pray every day no other person will ever have too. Although I am technically an agnostic.

The thing, now that im an adult that scares me more then everything is that, originally, it was to be a bombing, they had bombs all over the sachool, but there wiring was faulty and didint explode, they were gonna shoot people who ran out of the school only. They were expecting to kill, upwards of 500 people and had the propane bombs went off that were in the cafeteria, I would be dead. Thats whats scares me more is do to some fluke, some small error they didint detect, I am still alive, which was one of the few things that kept some of my faith in a god and stopped me from becomeing an athiest.

Hi, Yamolex, welcome to NS, so here's my question

Did you know any of those who died? If so, how did you cope with any hatred for Eric and Dylan (actually even if you didn't personally know anyone who died you can answer this...)?

The predominant question on my mind is, regardless of what the press says or what have you - do you think it had anything to do with videogames? Do you blame Doom, or Quake or any videogames for what happened?

At a school like Columbine, you knew everyone, some better then others, but I knew everyone killed.

I didint have hatred for them as much as I did pity, but I still had hatred, I wanted to forgive them, but there is no way I could, when I got out of the hostpital, I went to see these crosses that a guy made of every victim including Dylan and Eric, I wrote on Dylan's "How can we ever forgive you". The same was later wirtten on Erics by someone else.Although I felt pity for them, I can never forgive them, especially Dylan, although I hated Eric more, I felt betrayed by DYlan, I knew and talked to him alot, and was nice to him unlike most people, but when he pulled the trigger on me, and did it with no remorse, I could never forgive him, and had they not been around other people when I had that CO2 bomb in my hand *I made a mistkae in my last post, it was a CO2 bomb, not a pipe bomb*, I would have gladly blown them apart.


No, I personally think video games had nothing to do with it, they both just had problems, if video games had something to do with it, then every kid who played Doom would be doing a school shooting.

Also a little side note, although I am over Columbine, I find myself doing strange COlumbine influenced things now and then, for example, I cannot use Weapon Set 2 cheat on GTA San Andreas, reason ebing, every weapon on that one, say for the flamethrower and pistol was used by Eric and Dylan, right down to the Molotovs and Sawn of Shotguns, and Tec-9s, I always feel like that set is based off them.

Do you blame Eric and Dylan, or the people who bullied them?

While there really isn't any excuse for what they did, the press made Columbine out to be something of a hostile environment. My questions are: was it a hostile environment, and if so, do you think it contributed to their actions?

Yes I blame Eric and Dylan, it wasnt from video games or bullys, it was what they wanted to do. I daw the video tapes they made, we were showed them, completely heartless.


Dylan was bullied abit, but Eric was not, Columbine was a very mellow school, not to many fights, hell we never really had fights, no bomb threats, no bad teachers, no nothing.

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I remember the day after Columbine teachers came into my school crying (I was a senior, it happened two days before my 18th birthday). They said they saw the sign "Home of the Rebels" and where I went to school, our mascot was the rebels. They were horrified because your school looked so much like our school. What happened really touched our school and we all felt for you. You are very brave for your actions on that day and for being able to talk about it now.

How do you feel about the urban legand that told the story of the girl asking if she believed in God before being shot? Have you ever considered going on a newsprogram and telling the media the real story of what happened on that day?

On a side note, do you have any of your animations on-line for us to checkout? :)

How do you feel about the urban legand that told the story of the girl asking if she believed in God before being shot?

Look at this:

not to pick favorites or anything but Cory Depooter and Rachel Scott who were good friends of mine.


And then look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Scott

Did you take a hit? How accurate was the history channel's show about Columbine?

How much thought and preperation do you think went into their attack?

At the time, did you have any knowledge of firearms that might have helped?

I dont like talking to the media, there a bunch of vultures, I was in a dam hospital bed trying to sleep with them pestering me about the library and the boys and this and that.

Was I hit, you mean shot? Yes 2 times and shrapnel to the face. Most shows I have seen are fairly accurate but do miss a few points in the library, and try and psycho anylyze Dylan and Eric in false ways.

They put years of preperation into it, it was s8upposed to be a bombing, they wanted to dwarve the Oklahoma City Bombings and everything, yes I believe they put alot, actually I think whne people call it the "COlumbine High School Shootings", they turn in there graves.

The big question; in the exact same situation today, what would you do?

Do everything in my power to stop them. Run out that table and tackle them when they were reloading there guns, trying to form a resistance, something instead of cowering.

Where and how serious were your gunshot wounds?

How did the emergency services cope with all this?

Did you see Dylan and Eric before/when/after they killed themselves?

If you could say something to Dylan and Eric right now, what would it be?

I was hit with a shotgun blast to my leg which hit the bottom of my knee and tore that up real bas, I got hit with stray BBs to my side, and got shrapnel from somewhere into my jaw, from where I dont know.

They did alright, I was only in the hospital for 3 days so they weent o badm, however I did have to take alot of care with my leg, this included therapy, and lots pof other treatment from differant places.

I dont know what I would say to them, probaly what I wrote on Dylan's cross.

Makes sense. By the way, kudos to you for coming to terms with what happened and moving on. I'm not so sure I'd have been able to, certainly not quickly.

Well, its in the past, in happened, move on, was kinda my philosophy on life, but I still do reflect on it, where as I know alot of people from it who just try and forget it ever happened.

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Was anybody actually asked the "do you believe in god" question?

Various different people have claimed they were communists/nazis. Any truth in that?

Was anybody actually asked the "do you believe in god" question?

Various different people have claimed they were communists/nazis. Any truth in that?

One more thing I wish to add to that question.

not to pick favorites or anything but Cory Depooter and Rachel Scott who were good friends of mine.

On Wikipedia, it says that she asked that question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Scott

What do you think of this?

They asked 3 people in the library that question. They had an interest with COmmunism and Nazism as far as I know, Dylan drew alot of sickle and hammers in his notebooks.

I am agnostic, so I really dont know how I would have asked the question, problay no. But I dont know, I was really listening to them asking people questions and talking, I was more occupied with trying to stay the fuck down and keeping Patrick from getting hit again, me and Daniel form almost a human barrier around him.

One more thing I wish to add to that question.



On Wikipedia, it says that she asked that question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Scott

What do you think of this?

Rachel was a good person and a good friend of mine who didnt deserve to die, had she been in the libary, and they threatened to kill her, I would have manned up pribaly and ran out from under the table screaming at them. But alas, she was killed before I even knew anything was goin on.

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What are your thoughts on Brooks Brown and his attempts to clear his name for years after the event? He claimed that 'Bullying was rife and teachers turned a blind eye' and that a year before the event he filed a detailed report with police about how Eric was making pipe bombs.

EH, I never payed much attentiopn to him, IMO, yes there was bullying, but no more then any other High School.

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Dam, dude, um I always was fascinated by the Columbine School shootings, and what happened, and I want to know, directly from an eyewitness such as yourself, what happened?

I tryed to do some research on you, and during the incedent, what was your age, every website I go to seems to have a differant age for you, most say 17, but I still wanna know.

I tryed to do some research on you, and during the incedent, what was your age, every website I go to seems to have a differant age for you, most say 17, but I still wanna know.
This post should help:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430665&page=1&pp=15

The first one.

Well that woudl take awhile to write sol it will take me a moment Terronian, maybe a few days.

#Long read so be ready.

Well it was just like a normal day, had a few classes, nothing major, anywho before lunch Me, Patrick, Daniel, and Corey went up top the library, this was normal for us, we would talk about anything and everything, especially rock climbing, which, being a Denver suburb boy, was great. Our conversation changed to that to about the band Savage Garden, I got there new CD, so booyah, and we were talking about that and finishing up homework, I was doing trig homework :headbang: ,wasnt really paying attention to it.

Midway through my homework, we started hearing popping noises, no big deal, we were told there was some construction at the school, for a leaky pipe or something, I remmber they mistook the repairmen for 3rd gunmen or something, so we quickly brushed that aside. But that changed, we noticed they got louder and clearer, me, going hunting alot noticed, "Those are gunshots", apparently everyone else agreed with me on this one, becuase they started looking around nervously. Then we heard liud bangs, like grenades.

All of a sudden Mrs Nielson came bursting in, and I mean dove behind the librarian counter and yelled at us with such horror, to "Get under the desk!". Of course we listened, I was told she was bleeding by Patrick but I never saw it. Corey who was up looking at a book dove under a seperate table then ours, which is a shame, becuase Corey was one of the deceased. He may had lived if he was with us, I dont know, and dont much feel like debating it, becuase in a way it may have been our fault he died.

Mrs Nielson called 911, and she was freaking out, just listening to her made the girsl freak OUT! He kept talking about how a big black kid was outside witha gun and we could hear gunshots too. Mr Sanders came in, I cant remember if it was before or during the 911 call, and told us "To stay here". He too died after bleeding to death as I was told, Patrick, and Daniel, I, kept getting yelled at by Mts Nielson becuase we were conversing on trying to bolt up the door, there were plenty of fuckin library rack, so we went out to grab some and she screamed at us to stay under the tables. It was like hell you could hear people screaming, "Oh my gods"and whatnot.

Then they came in and I realised it was Klebold and Harris, I was shocked, its just something you dont expect to see, I was thinking maybe a stranger but them?!?! It was the equivelent of George Bush running out of the white house naked, with a Grizzly Bear chasing him, you wouldnt expect it. They came in and Eric fired a shot into the cileing, we were cowering at this point. They yelled "Get UP, everyone in a white cap get the fuck up, were gonna kill everyone in a white cap"! No oen to my knowledge was in one and no one got up. When no one did, DYlan said he was gonna start shooting.

The attack was fast and swift, they immediatlty started firing, both with the shotgun blast. I coudnt see much fron under the table, so I didnt see the 2 half the time, but they fired an assload, I was scared shitless, me, Dan, and patrick were snug up right close. They fired first at the librarian desk. I remember thinking, dude, Dylan and Eric are bein fuckin retarded, they aint gonna do anything but scare us, of course at that age your still thinking people will show restraint becuase of your age, and I remember how fast I realised oh shit, when DYlan fired into the computer lab and hit this, well ile say pudjy kid who was sitting straight up in a seat. not hiding at all, I think his name was Kyle, I was like "OMG", Patrick had his hand over his mouth in such a look of horror.

We were tying to stay as low as we could as they started shooting out the windows, I guess they were shooting at people in the parking lot. I remember heqaring gunfire coming back and thinking, yes thats right, cops are here, they take these fuckers out, but my mind went blank, and thats when I have the worst memory of my life, the one thats etched in my memory forever. Dylan turning around and looking straight at me, with his shotgun drawn, and as he pulled the trigger, I knew, I was going to die, I saw what shotguns have done to people, I felt I was gonna do, the boom woke me and I felt extrmeme pain, then he shot again, the first shot, hit just below my left legs knee, it hurt so bad, I still have the scars from it and still walk witha s light llimp tp this day, i could feel fragments in my leg like sand. I noticed my side had stray BBs and was bleeding, as was patrick Ireland, the second blast was recoiled off and hit the top of the table, the splinters got everywhere. I was the worst off under our table. I have no idea what the hell the 2 did really much after that I was busy holding myself, Patrick was was in boy scouts or something and new first aid and was ripping pieces of his shirt to help me becuase of the way we were situaded, he had to come out of the table a bit, DYlan shot him twice, once in the foot and the other in the head, when i saw his head, I thought he was goijng to die, me and Daniel grabbed him by his leg and pulled him under the table, we formed a little shiled around him, he was as far as i knew dead, he wasnt moving but Daniel said he saw his chest moving, we coudnt do much for him except not draw anhymore attention and keep him safe.

I remmeber feeling bad becuase of Isiah, he was a black kid who got shot next, I remember feeling bad becuase before they killed him, they called him names like "******" and so on, thats hurtful, i dont care who you are especially the thought that those were the last words he heard. My god im crying, dam you Terronian =*). I just wanted someone to stop it, a cop just bursting in or something. We saw Rachel Scott's brother under Isiahs table, I knew him the few times I had gone over to her house, he was laying fowce down in Isiahs blood, but I saw him moving, I was like, "he splaying dead', without exchanging a look me and Daniel layed down next to patrick best we could, I had my eyes slighlty opened but to that ppoint where they looked closed, I hear Daniel say fuck, I opened my eyes to see him desperatly kicking at a CO2 cartidge, I picked it up and noticed it had a wick, it was a fuckin bomb, I was tempted to, hell I had my hand cocked to throw it back at DYlan and Eri, blow them to fuckin smitereens, but they were standing next to a table of other students, i coudnt take inncocents so i threw it down the empty half of the library where it blew.

I remmeber taunting a girl becuase she belived in god, but I didnt know the girl, nor her name, but they didint kill her. They continued fireing at tables, I coudnt see them, becuase they had moved to the center of the library, I remember then yelling at a kid, it was John Savage, he had been a close friend to the 2 and they let him go, I remember thinking, WHY NOT ME! I had been good to DYlan, why shoot me and let him go, I guess you could say I had life threatening jelousy. They then fired at the table in front of us, were Cory was, he was hugging close to Daniel Muaser who was talking at our table for a second and had made Cory get up with him to get a book, the shots killed Daniel, so many dead bodies, I mean its bad enough when you see one, but when you see over 4 people killed before your eyes and one you thought was gonna die, it was bad, they fired more injuring everyone under the table, as far as I knew they were all hit, Cory was looking at us and we started waving our hands trying to get him to crawl to our table, but as he did, he was hit by a shotghun blast from, I think Eric, and died halfway. Thats when I satrted crying, I mean, i was always brought up men dont cry, but man even with adreniline I was bawling, I was ready to just die, make it stop anything.

They looked bored, I remmeber they threw a bottle at the librarians counter that didint do anythingf, i assume it was a bomb but it didint do a thing, Dylan screamed fuck and slammed a chair on it, the 2 fired a few shots into the cieling, and threatened to kill everyone, then just left. We were looking around, we wanted to run but, we were frightened they would come back, an officer s head came and yelled at us from the opposite Exit, and we evacuated, my leg hurt so i could bareil walk, Dniel had to help me, we were trying to get Patrick out, but we coudnt drag him, nor move him, I said "Sorry" although i dont think he could hear me and we ran out. We were swapped up by SWAT members, and were like the last students out. I kept yelling at the police, save my friend, save Patrick but they didnt seem to listen. I sat in the parking lot for what seemed like forever until an ambulance came and picked me up and i was told my parents were gonna meet me there, I didint want to leave thoughj, I wanted to maie sure Patrick got out, but I was in no position to be argueing.

I went to the hostpital and stayed 3 days, they did surgery on my leg and side, as well as giving me stuff for my cheek whihc was hit my fragments from that CO2 bomb. I went to see Patrick who was at the same hospital as me, and apologized for leaving him, I taliked to his parents, about how brave he was and tryed to give me first AID. I talked to the medai which was the worst, I had to use a wheelchair for about 3 months after that and a cast becuase it fractured bone or something i dont know, and I still have scars and walk with a limp, but other then that I have no lasting ailments, say for the occasional nightmare. Thats about it Terronian, I did go back to Columbine after it was refurbished, it wasnt hard for me, but others had panic attacksa in the halls and what not. I also went to Cory, Rachel and Couch Sanders funerals. I also made friends with Craig who was Rachels little bro who was a nice guy, but he left Columbine later that year.

dam dude.....that, how do you replie to that?!?!?

I have nothing but respect.

Well thank you, but I didint earn any less or more respect then anyone else in the world.

I also have a questions of interest. If I were to make a game that took a stab at the trenchcoat mafia, would you or any of the survivors in that matter would approve?

Um well I have no qualms with the Trenchcoat Mafia, but DYlan and Eric werent in the trenchcoat mafia, I dont care what people do.

Also there is a Columbine RPG outthjere somewhere I played a while ago, really wired, especially killing yourself. =S. But go ahead stab away.

Just one question: Has going through this experience stopped you from doing anything signifigant, afterward? Have you changed anything signifigant in your life because of it?

Not really no, I do tend to examine things closer nowadays, but thats it.

Okay, I said I might make a thread like this so here it is, first you can read the first post here if you like.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430665&page=1&pp=15

Anywho, yes I am a Columbine Massacre survivor, and was in the library were most of the deaths occured, I always saw the Ask a Jew threads and what not so here we go, ask questions, from what I saw, to how the school looked, or the rooms, or the killers, I wasnt exactly friends with Eric or Dylan but I did talk to Dylan quit alot. To the aftermath, or my time in the hospital.

So ask away.
were you on the History Channel documentary? i think i remember a description of your ordeal in the library

Well I havenent seen in and I wasnt ever interviewed nor notified so I assume, no =P, I might have mentioned or something , but no i was not on it personally, I havent been on anything Columbine related, say for the news.

Are you angry at the police for not intervening sooner?

The thing, now that im an adult that scares me more then everything is that, originally, it was to be a bombing, they had bombs all over the sachool, but there wiring was faulty and didint explode, they were gonna shoot people who ran out of the school only. They were expecting to kill, upwards of 500 people and had the propane bombs went off that were in the cafeteria, I would be dead. Thats whats scares me more is do to some fluke, some small error they didint detect, I am still alive, which was one of the few things that kept some of my faith in a god and stopped me from becomeing an athiest.

Do you believe that simply because God choose to spare you personally you should believe in him.

What if God or Fate chose to spare everyone in the school and only kill you.

In your dying seconds, knowing you were dying and not knowing that everyone else has been spared (In fact maybe you expect everyone else there to die too) would you still believe in God?

Was the social form of Columbine school the cliche'd Jocks vs Counter Culture that the media presented here in the UK?

LOKIAA:Yes and no, I think they could have done more, but, if I was an officer I woudnt want to barrel headlong into a building with an unkown amount of shooters.

E&C:Well in a way yes, I am actually an agnostic, but still carry a bit of hope there maybe is a higher power, thanks to me being spared, a bunch of factors contributed to them not sdlughtering everyone in the library, I know they had serious superiority issues and they way they acted in there really suggested to me they enjoyed the power of choosing who would die and live, and the power of taunting and what not in there hands, appealed to them more then killing.

I would be pretty pissed off, really.

Probaly, maybe a half haggard, more out of hope, hoping out of fear there was a god, and out of hope there was something aiting for me in the end.

Well, yes and no, take me and my main group of friends, we blended in with everyone, from the jocks and arrogant assholes, to the loners like Harris and Klebold. It wasnt as rough as they said it was with bullying and what not, in fact Eric was never really bullied on, Dylan was but no more then most kids who are bullied are, it wasnt that he was buillied hard it was that he was bullied and in a way treated with neglect. It wasnt just jocks picking on everyone, no, and when the time did come, DYlan and Eric killed jock and geek alike.

Eric and Dylan were not homosexual, Eric often expressed hatred of homosexuals.That's usually a very big sign that one might be a homosexual...

Im atill gonna say, that I did not think they were homosexual.

Its not like the 2 didint have girlfriends ever, DYlan had a few not really GFs but dates, and Eric asked everyone under the fuckin sun.

What were Dylan and Eric like, if you happened to know them?

Dylan:Knew him alot better then Eric, he was nice, never treated me bad, they bothed liked bowling, Dylan liked old horror movies. He was a loner before Eric came, he was bullied, he was a follower, and tended to get very angry. He liked to draw, he drew alot in class. I did go over to his house once and played Doom with him on one of Eric's levels. Nice parents. He was Jewish, for some reaosn people believed him a Nazi, but he was Jewish, but never brought it up much.

Eric: Dont know to much about him, the few times I did talk to him, he talked about Doom and only Doom. He liked to ask ladies out alot. Whenever I went to Blackjack Pizza, it was al;ways a running joke for him to act like he coughed in my pizza. I always found him to be an ass, really, didint like Eric at all.

Dylan:Knew him alot better then Eric, he was nice, never treated me bad, they bothed liked bowling, Dylan liked old horror movies. He was a loner before Eric came, he was bullied, he was a follower, and tended to get very angry. He liked to draw, he drew alot in class. I did go over to his house once and played Doom with him on one of Eric's levels. Nice parents. He was Jewish, for some reaosn people believed him a Nazi, but he was Jewish, but never brought it up much.

Eric: Dont know to much about him, the few times I did talk to him, he talked about Doom and only Doom. He liked to ask ladies out alot. Whenever I went to Blackjack Pizza, it was al;ways a running joke for him to act like he coughed in my pizza. I always found him to be an ass, really, didint like Eric at all.
As I thought, they sound like they were normal enough. So how do you feel about people seeming to portray them as pure sociopaths, when that seems to be a half truth?

Eh, after what they did, i dont care what people brand them.