NationStates Jolt Archive


Denounciation of Evil

Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 22:40
Yesterday, tragedy struck again as at least 37 people are dead and over 700 are wounded in the worst attack on London since the Battle of Britain. And although I'm an American, I grieve at the losses and feel anger towards the monsters who have committed such atrocities. These are the same scum that killed thousands on 9/11, blew up that nightclub in Southeast Asia. These creatures should no longer be known as people, but as vile beasts of death. They are soulless demons and I say it is high time we stand up against them. I stand up against them with the entire population of Great Britain, our ally. I stand up with the troops in Iraq, doing what is needed to prevent more of these attacks from happening around the world. No one, young or old, man or woman, rich or poor, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and other races, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Bhuddist, or atheist is safe until these demons who hide under the peaceful religion of Islam are exterminated. Come on, everyone let's stand up and say, "We will not falter, we will not fail, we will not surrender!" to these monsters!
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 22:42
denunciation*

Are you Christian?
Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 22:43
Yes. So?
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 22:47
...and feel anger towards the monsters who have committed such atrocities. These are the same scum that killed thousands on 9/11, blew up that nightclub in Southeast Asia. These creatures should no longer be known as people, but as vile beasts of death...

Couple things.

First, we don't yet know who is responsible in London, and my opinion is that it was not the actual Al Qaeda.

Second...you do an exemplary job of displaying "Christian compassion"
Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 22:48
Couple things.

First, we don't yet know who is responsible in London, and my opinion is that it was not the actual Al Qaeda.

Second...you do an exemplary job of displaying "Christian compassion"
I show compassion to those who deserve it. And all the same, Al Qaeda, or what not, they are all the same.
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 22:49
I show compassion to those who deserve it.
Is this what Jesus teaches?
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 22:50
I'd bet my very life that it was the work of muslim extremists.

I have no compassion for those who bombed London.

They are vermin who need to be exterminated along with all who agree with their actions.

What do you have to say to that Unblogged?
Wurzelmania
08-07-2005, 22:50
<<First, we don't yet know who is responsible in London, and my opinion is that it was not the actual Al Qaeda.

Second...you do an exemplary job of displaying "Christian compassion">>

Third. Let us make our choices. The majority of this nation has got on and said "Shit happens." We don't need some jingoistic crazy dragging us into another fuck up.
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 22:51
Is this what Jesus teaches?
It's what LaVey taught in the Satanic Bible.
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 22:52
I'd bet my very life that it was the work of muslim extremists.

I have no compassion for those who bombed London.

They are vermin who need to be exterminated along with all who agree with their actions.

What do you have to say to that Unblogged?
I'm not saying it wasn't Muslim extremists.

I am saying that we don't yet know, and further more, just because it is Muslim extremists, does not mean it was Al Qaeda.

As for the rest of your statement, I've got no problem with it, so long as you're not claiming to be living as Jesus would have you live.
Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 22:53
Is this what Jesus teaches?
It is true that he has said that, "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer him the other." However, do you think that he wants us to just lay down, give up, and die to evil? No, my friend. Think of the sellers in the temple. Jesus drove them out through anger, but it was not a sin. Now, think of the world as the temple, and the terrorists as the sellers. We must drive them out, as Jesus did, so they do not pervert the temple with their evil ways
Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 22:55
<<First, we don't yet know who is responsible in London, and my opinion is that it was not the actual Al Qaeda.

Second...you do an exemplary job of displaying "Christian compassion">>

Third. Let us make our choices. The majority of this nation has got on and said "Shit happens." We don't need some jingoistic crazy dragging us into another fuck up.
So what you're saying is that America should tell her ally, "Its your problem, not ours." Even though Britain helped us after 9/11?
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 22:55
I'm not saying it wasn't Muslim extremists.

I am saying that we don't yet know, and further more, just because it is Muslim extremists, does not mean it was Al Qaeda.

As for the rest of your statement, I've got no problem with it, so long as you're not claiming to be living as Jesus would have you live.
I'm definately not following Jesus' example. I have a job, I have a home, I don't hate my parents, and I don't turn the other cheek.
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 22:57
Jesus killed merchants selling their goods in the temple?

Besides, who is to say that Jesus was perfect? Even as a Christian, I believed that that particular passage shows that Jesus, like the rest of us, is human too (although, at that time, still believed him to be the son of God).

The fact of the matter is...these terrorists aren't pissed at us because we're foriegners and they like blowing stuff up. No...they're pissed at us because they feel we're invading our soveriegnty (even before Iraq, even before Afghanistan), and by sending troops over there...what have we done but give them more reason to be angry?

Besides, is it not the duty of your God to judge people and punish them for their sins?
Czardas
08-07-2005, 22:57
Another guy mad at the London terrorists. Been there, done that. *leaves*
Wurzelmania
08-07-2005, 22:58
So what you're saying is that America should tell her ally, "Its your problem, not ours." Even though Britain helped us after 9/11?

I'm saying until we feel we need help, we don't want it. We have it under control, we'll take our time and make our choices. Fine you can offer your support but too much of what I have seen has been hawkish.

Scrap that. It is our problem. We'll deal. If you want to come along I'm fine with that but until you know what the ride is don't try to push us into it.
Holy Paradise
08-07-2005, 23:00
Jesus killed merchants selling their goods in the temple?

Besides, who is to say that Jesus was perfect? Even as a Christian, I believed that that particular passage shows that Jesus, like the rest of us, is human too (although, at that time, still believed him to be the son of God).

The fact of the matter is...these terrorists aren't pissed at us because we're foriegners and they like blowing stuff up. No...they're pissed at us because they feel we're invading our soveriegnty (even before Iraq, even before Afghanistan), and by sending troops over there...what have we done but give them more reason to be angry?

Besides, is it not the duty of your God to judge people and punish them for their sins?
1. Jesus didn't kill them, he drove them out. Pay attention.

2. These terrorists have been doing it even before we sent troops over there. They just want us dead, no matter what.

3.Although God is the only one who can judge, he would not want us to give into evil. I've already told you that. Now I'm going to go watch the Simpsons.
Wurzelmania
08-07-2005, 23:03
These terrorists have been doing it even before we sent troops over there.

How far back are we gonna go here? I distinctly recall a few bits of poison gas dropped in the twentes by the occupying British...
Jibea
08-07-2005, 23:04
It is true that he has said that, "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer him the other." However, do you think that he wants us to just lay down, give up, and die to evil? No, my friend. Think of the sellers in the temple. Jesus drove them out through anger, but it was not a sin. Now, think of the world as the temple, and the terrorists as the sellers. We must drive them out, as Jesus did, so they do not pervert the temple with their evil ways

Ha ha, thats a lie. That was Jesus' first known sin, and probably only one, unless some stories I heard about his child hood is true.
Wendover
08-07-2005, 23:06
It is true that he has said that, "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer him the other." However, do you think that he wants us to just lay down, give up, and die to evil? No, my friend. Think of the sellers in the temple. Jesus drove them out through anger, but it was not a sin. Now, think of the world as the temple, and the terrorists as the sellers. We must drive them out, as Jesus did, so they do not pervert the temple with their evil ways

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic...If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even 'sinners' do that...But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back...Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven...

Words of Christ, Luke 6:27-37 NIV

I understand where you're coming from, and I am sorry to quote scripture at you, but I fail to see what good dehumanisation of the perpurtrators of terror attacks will do. We must surely just stop being so arrogant and we should look for peaceful resolutions to problems, for example not charging into Iraq in the way we did.
Unblogged
08-07-2005, 23:07
1. Jesus didn't kill them, he drove them out. Pay attention.

2. These terrorists have been doing it even before we sent troops over there. They just want us dead, no matter what.

3.Although God is the only one who can judge, he would not want us to give into evil. I've already told you that. Now I'm going to go watch the Simpsons.
1. Jesus didn't kill, yet your argument is that because Jesus raised his voice, you have the right to wish the death of some of your God's creations?

2. ...first real attack on American soil by these terrorists? September 11th, 2001. Before that, bombings on American embassies, and foiled attempts by these terrorists within the US in the early 90s (around the same time as Desert Storm)
CIA has been in the Mid East since the 50s, at least...so, you're wrong.

3. We ARE giving in to evil, by punishing evil people with more evil. By trying to do what the Christians claim is their God's job to do.
Deancesca
08-07-2005, 23:13
Ha ha, thats a lie. That was Jesus' first known sin, and probably only one.

This was not a sin, Christians are called to rebuke one another and we are all accountable for our actions. Truth is evil things have been done thoughout history by many religions including Christians..mostly done becuase some lunatic with power misled people into believing the things they did were in the name of <insert appropriate God here> that they worshipped.

I pray for the victims, the families and also the enemy that does these things that they may seek ways of peace..and in the mean time I prefer to be alert and yet live my life as normal..travel where I wish and judge each person as I meet them.
The Celtic Union1
08-07-2005, 23:21
Yesterday, tragedy struck again as at least 37 people are dead and over 700 are wounded in the worst attack on London since the Battle of Britain. And although I'm an American, I grieve at the losses and feel anger towards the monsters who have committed such atrocities. These are the same scum that killed thousands on 9/11, blew up that nightclub in Southeast Asia. These creatures should no longer be known as people, but as vile beasts of death. They are soulless demons and I say it is high time we stand up against them. I stand up against them with the entire population of Great Britain, our ally. I stand up with the troops in Iraq, doing what is needed to prevent more of these attacks from happening around the world. No one, young or old, man or woman, rich or poor, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, and other races, Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Bhuddist, or atheist is safe until these demons who hide under the peaceful religion of Islam are exterminated. Come on, everyone let's stand up and say, "We will not falter, we will not fail, we will not surrender!" to these monsters!
Passionate. However Misguided Iraq Is about Oil. Not Terrorism. Most Enlglish would agree with this statement I think. Your hearts in the right place If only your brain were to.
Wendover
08-07-2005, 23:27
Passionate. However Misgguided Iraq Is about Oil. Not Terrorism. Most Enlglish would agree with this statement i think. Yours hearts in the right place If only your brain were to.

I sincerely hope that most people in London, the UK and the World do not agree with that statement. It is uncompromising, it is naive, and it is unnecessary at this time. We should not be looking for revenge, nor should we be dehumanising anyone to such an extreme degree. I share the hope that the terrorists will be captured and will stand trial, but to use the word exterminate is unforgiveable.