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Renquist to resign Tonight.

Corneliu
08-07-2005, 21:46
HOT OF THE PRESS!

RENQUIST IS GOING TO RETIRE! ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT

This is according to the drudge report.

Here we go again ladies and gentlemen.

Not only a fight to replace O'Conner but now a fight to, not only replace Renquist, but a fight for the next Chief Justice.

LLLLLLLLEEEEETTTTTTSSSS GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEEEEEEEE!

Again.
Colodia
08-07-2005, 21:48
WHAT THE FU-


Oh dammit, I just shit my pants.
Swimmingpool
08-07-2005, 21:49
*self-declared referee!*
New Sans
08-07-2005, 21:50
This is gonna be an interesting fight to say the least.
Corneliu
08-07-2005, 21:57
Ok, I know I said it was from the Drudge Report. So far nothing from any news services.

If this is true, and right now it doesn't look that way, this is going to up the court fight another notch.
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 21:58
Hmm, I think I can still get Italian citizenship.
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 21:59
With two judges to appoint, Bush isn't going to try a power play. He's going to appoint a left-leaning centrist and a right-leaning centrist who both share his views on an issue he feels is the most important, probably gay marriage. Bush isn't stupid. He knows if he tries to ram two ultra-conservative judges into the Court, popular opinion will swing wildly away from the Republican party.
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:00
Ok, I know I said it was from the Drudge Report. So far nothing from any news services.

If this is true, and right now it doesn't look that way, this is going to up the court fight another notch.

Drudge Report, you say? You couldn't find a more reliable source, like Weekly World News?
Lunatic Goofballs
08-07-2005, 22:02
With two judges to appoint, Bush isn't going to try a power play. He's going to appoint a left-leaning centrist and a right-leaning centrist who both share his views on an issue he feels is the most important, probably gay marriage. Bush isn't stupid. He knows if he tries to ram two ultra-conservative judges into the Court, popular opinion will swing wildly away from the Republican party.

Yeah, because if Bush has demonstrated anything it's his grip on reality. :p
Lunatic Goofballs
08-07-2005, 22:02
Drudge Report, you say? You couldn't find a more reliable source, like Weekly World News?

Every time he tries, Bat Boy takes a bite out of his arm. :D
Wurzelmania
08-07-2005, 22:03
Digs cellar. Stocks provisions. Reconsiders. I'm on a canal for the next week, I'm safe.
Corneliu
08-07-2005, 22:03
Drudge Report, you say? You couldn't find a more reliable source, like Weekly World News?

Well to be fair, drudge heard it from Robert Novak of CNN.
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:03
Yeah, because if Bush has demonstrated anything it's his grip on reality. :p

Touche, good sir, touche.
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:04
Well to be fair, drudge heard it from Robert Novak of CNN.

Is that what he said? Well Wolf Blitzer was telling me the other day that Drudge is full of shit 75% of the time.
Swimmingpool
08-07-2005, 22:04
He's going to appoint a left-leaning centrist and a right-leaning centrist who both share his views on an issue he feels is the most important, probably gay marriage.
I thought Abortion was more important to him. Because overturning/protecting Roe vs Wade is the only reason anyone cares about the court appointments.
The Cat-Tribe
08-07-2005, 22:05
This is interesting.

If this turns out to be true, I think Sdaeriji is right that this will actually result in Bush being more centrist in his picks.

(Regardless, few appointees would be more right-wing than Rehnquist already has been.)

It also raises an interesting issue re the Chief Justiceship. Will Bush appoint someone new directly to that position -- in which case, Scalia will never be Chief Justice -- which has been the more common route? Or will he seek to elevate Scalia and appoint a replacement for Scalia?

I think the former.
Skeelzania
08-07-2005, 22:05
Isn't the position of Cheif Justice just automatically given to the most senior judge on the panel? Maybe I'm wrong, but thats how I always thought it worked. Dubya will still has the job of sneaking the two craziest sons of bitches he can find pass Congress though, which will be interesting.

(And just some I don't get reported for flaming [again], all Presidents try to do that)
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:06
I thought Abortion was more important to him. Because overturning/protecting Roe vs Wade is the only reason anyone cares about the court appointments.

Perhaps. It was just a guess. He seemed pretty keen on the gay marriage amendment.
[NS]Ihatevacations
08-07-2005, 22:06
Hurray, we're fucked!
Potaria
08-07-2005, 22:09
Ihatevacations']Hurray, we're fucked!

Hahaha, I imagined Lewis Black saying that right when I read this.

"WE'RE FUCKED!!!"

Gold.
Allemonde
08-07-2005, 22:11
I have a Great Idea!!!!!!

Chief justice: John Ashcroft!!!!!
Justice: Karl Rove!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:11
I think Sdaeriji is right

My new signature. :D
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 22:12
I wonder why these supreme court justices have decided to resign now. Of all possible times they choose the term of a Republican prez. with a Republican controlled house and senate. This just sucks. It just about gives the Republicans uncontested control over the judiciary.
Potaria
08-07-2005, 22:12
I have a Great Idea!!!!!!

Chief justice: John Ashcroft!!!!!
Justice: Karl Rove!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Oh. My. Fucking. God.

*readies pointed stick*
Drunk commies deleted
08-07-2005, 22:13
I have a Great Idea!!!!!!

Chief justice: John Ashcroft!!!!!
Justice: Karl Rove!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Half of the US population leaves!!!!!!!
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:16
I wonder why these supreme court justices have decided to resign now. Of all possible times they choose the term of a Republican prez. with a Republican controlled house and senate. This just sucks. It just about gives the Republicans uncontested control over the judiciary.

Well Rehnquist is a conservative, so I doubt he cares.
Greeen Havens
08-07-2005, 22:18
With two judges to appoint, Bush isn't going to try a power play. He's going to appoint a left-leaning centrist and a right-leaning centrist who both share his views on an issue he feels is the most important, probably gay marriage. Bush isn't stupid. He knows if he tries to ram two ultra-conservative judges into the Court, popular opinion will swing wildly away from the Republican party.

Oh fubar. bleep it, grump. etc.
I wish. but disagree, unhappily.
no, he is gonna RAM ultra-conservatives neocon ideologues.

Anybody else is UNACCEPTABLE to Bushco.
Sdaeriji
08-07-2005, 22:21
Oh fubar. bleep it, grump. etc.
I wish. but disagree, unhappily.
no, he is gonna RAM ultra-conservatives neocon ideologues.

Anybody else is UNACCEPTABLE to Bushco.

He can't. If he does, then the Democrats will win the Oval Office and Congress for the next twenty years, and he knows that. Or, at least, one of his advisors knows it.
Corneliu
08-07-2005, 22:25
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/06/scotus.twovacancies.ap/index.html

A story about his POSSIBLE retirement.
Swimmingpool
08-07-2005, 22:33
Oh fubar. bleep it, grump. etc.
I wish. but disagree, unhappily.
no, he is gonna RAM ultra-conservatives neocon ideologues.

Anybody else is UNACCEPTABLE to Bushco.
Not at all. Staying in power is more important to politicians than a minor issue like abortion, which only exists to pull Christian votes.
The Cat-Tribe
08-07-2005, 22:34
Isn't the position of Cheif Justice just automatically given to the most senior judge on the panel? Maybe I'm wrong, but thats how I always thought it worked. *snip*

I wish! Then Justice Stevens would become Chief Justice!!

But, nope. Counting Rehnquist, we've had sixteen Chief Justices. Counting Rehnquist, only 3 were elevated from prior positions on the Court.

Chief Justices Jay, Ellsworth, Marshall, Taney, Chase, Waite, Fuller, Taft, Hughes, Vinson, Warren, and Burger were not on the Court prior to become Chief Justice.

Chief Justice Rutledge was on the Court from 1790-1791, but was not on the Court when he became Chief Justice (1795-1795).

Chief Justices White (1910-1921), Stone (1941-46), and Rehnquist (1986-?) were the only ones elevated.

At the time Rehnquist was elevated to Chief Justice, Justices Thurgood Marshall and Harry Blackmun more senior. Justice Lewis F. Powell was of equal senority, having been sworn in the same day as Rehnquist.