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Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion?
Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?
Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?
Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?
Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany?
Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?
Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal?
Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? (eh, wait, did they?)
Can you forgive Spain for slavery?

Well can you? We're all going to be rather doomed if you don't throw away your silly grudges against one another for events that took place before you were even born. We're all in this together, we all need to come together as one, we all need to remember that we are as civilized as we have ever been and we need to remember we cannot be even more civilized and advanced if we do not forgive.

We cannot control the government. We cannot control a lot of things. We can try. We can succeed. But when we fail terrible things happen. But when we fail we are not at fault. Events like World War 2 have shown us that indeed, a few men can plummet the world into chaos. A chain of events can cause mass destruction. A little bit of technology can flatten a city. A little competition can cause mad imperialization.

But we are not at fault.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

No one that's alive right now. That's for sure.

Work with me. You won't see me do this again for awhile.

Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion?
Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?
Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?
Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?
Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany?
Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?
Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal?
Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? (eh, wait, did they?)
Can you forgive Spain for slavery?

Well can you? We're all going to be rather doomed if you don't throw away your silly grudges against one another for events that took place before you were even born. We're all in this together, we all need to come together as one, we all need to remember that we are as civilized as we have ever been and we need to remember we cannot be even more civilized and advanced if we do not forgive.

We cannot control the government. We cannot control a lot of things. We can try. We can succeed. But when we fail terrible things happen. But when we fail we are not at fault. Events like World War 2 have shown us that indeed, a few men can plummet the world into chaos. A chain of events can cause mass destruction. A little bit of technology can flatten a city. A little competition can cause mad imperialization.

But we are not at fault.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

No one that's alive right now. That's for sure.

Work with me. You won't see me do this again for awhile.

Of course I can forgive Vietnam, as they didn't start it. The United States started it, and I still haven't forgiven our government.

Of course I can forgive Vietnam, as they didn't start it. The United States started it, and I still haven't forgiven our government.
COMPLETELY missed the point didn't you?

COMPLETELY missed the point didn't you?

Actually, no. I hit the nail right on the head with that one, so to speak.

Corrections where corrections are necessary.

Actually, no. I hit the nail right on the head with that one, so to speak.

Corrections where corrections are necessary.
No.

I kinda meant to aim the Vietnam one at Americans. As we lost and it was to the Vietnamese.

COMPLETELY missed the point didn't you?
:D

I find it alarming the number of people not just unwilling to forgive, but who have philosophies opposed to it. I once met a fellow who said that the Golden Rule meant that if someone killed one of his family members, he would be fully justified in killing them in return, because that's what he would expect of them.

Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion?
Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?
Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?
Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?
Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany?
Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?
Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal?
Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? (eh, wait, did they?)
Can you forgive Spain for slavery?

Well can you? We're all going to be rather doomed if you don't throw away your silly grudges against one another for events that took place before you were even born. We're all in this together, we all need to come together as one, we all need to remember that we are as civilized as we have ever been and we need to remember we cannot be even more civilized and advanced if we do not forgive.

We cannot control the government. We cannot control a lot of things. We can try. We can succeed. But when we fail terrible things happen. But when we fail we are not at fault. Events like World War 2 have shown us that indeed, a few men can plummet the world into chaos. A chain of events can cause mass destruction. A little bit of technology can flatten a city. A little competition can cause mad imperialization.

But we are not at fault.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

No one that's alive right now. That's for sure.

Work with me. You won't see me do this again for awhile.

I personally can forgive all of these to the best of my ability. Although some of them are slightly dubious. Islam and terrorism should not be put together in that way. The Byzantine Emperor Alexius I was responsible for the Crusades. But this is irrelevant. I do not know whether we will be "forgiven" for our colonial past, but then it remains to be seen whether many of us care. It must be remembered that a lot of good came from the British Empire, including the global drive for the abolition of slavery. We should all learn that everyone makes mistakes and that we all have reaons to feel shame, either on our own part or on the part of our nations.

No.

I kinda meant to aim the Vietnam one at Americans. As we lost and it was to the Vietnamese.

The fact that we started it makes it all the more amusing, then, doesn't it?

I'm with Potaria on this, I did the same double-take on seeing Vietnam included on that list. What happened in Vietnam was serial interference by foreign powers, an attempt to forestall an inevitable popular revolution.

There never was a 'north' or 'south' Vietnam.

I'm with Potaria on this, I did the same double-take on seeing Vietnam included on that list. What happened in Vietnam was serial interference by foreign powers, an attempt to forestall an inevitable popular revolution.

There never was a 'north' or 'south' Vietnam.

Thanks a bunch for the support.

Vietnam was, indeed, very much unlike the conflict in Korea, a nation which actually was split between North and South.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

Spammers like you who remind us. :D

Just like the time I woke up naked on the lawn, hogtied and with a vibrator in my ass, I can forgive, but I'll never forget. :(

I personally can forgive all of these to the best of my ability. Although some of them are slightly dubious. Islam and terrorism should not be put together in that way.
If anyone knows that Islam does not equal terrorism, it's me, a Muslim.

I typed that with the hope that people who think that way will reconsider. And that does that already know will simply agree.

Just like the time I woke up naked on the lawn, hogtied and with a vibrator in my ass, I can forgive, but I'll never forget. :(I can forget, but I never forgive. Yes, I did forgive that one fellow who stepped on my foot, but afterwards went back on it and fried him to a crisp. So yeah, I never forgive! ;)

Just like the time I woke up naked on the lawn, hogtied and with a vibrator in my ass, I can forgive, but I'll never forget. :(
I TOLD Czardas that the vibrator was too much and to stick with the classic "Lawn on Fire with gasoline in a ring around you" act. Nooooo....

Forgiveness is of course possible.

But there has to be some move on the part of the perpetrator to:

1) Recognise and admit to their action.
2) Apologise, or make sure such a thing can not be repeated.

I will forgive those who ask for it. In my mind, there are some examples you've given where the parties involved have done neither 1, nor 2. In my mind, forgiveness can not be a one-sided action.

Maybe that's mean of me and hey, when it comes down to individuals, of course I don't hold grudges against those who were not directly responsible. So no, I don't blame most living people for the evils their nations or governments have done.

It is very difficult to forgive those who have killed your friends and colleagues for no gain or rational reason. However, with time it is possible.

I do however find it impossible to forgive the Mexicans for their incursions into the UK and Brazil. :D

Just like the time I woke up naked on the lawn, hogtied and with a vibrator in my ass, I can forgive, but I'll never forget. :(
I, on behalf of every member of NS General who has read this, would like to thank you for the image that gave. But please, in future, keep things like this to yourself?

I TOLD Czardas that the vibrator was too much and to stick with the classic "Lawn on Fire with gasoline in a ring around you" act. Nooooo....
Well don't blame me! It was your idea in the first place! And plus, you were the one who wanted to pour blood over his back, weren't you?

I, on behalf of every member of NS General who has read this, would like to thank you for the image that gave. But please, in future, keep things like this to yourself?

There's a reason why this is the first time I mentioned it. SOme stories just shouldn't be shared. At least, not here. :p

Of course I can forgive Vietnam, as they didn't start it. The United States started it, and I still haven't forgiven our government.

As was said, you missed the point. That aside, Vietnam could be taken back to the French.

Snip

I'm a firm believer that the course of human history should not be in anyway altered or even reviled, let alone justify prejudice.

Imagine humanity as a tapestry of choices, everything that was done in the past is already weaved, the present offers choices threaded from where our past led them, and the future is near infinitely variably but firmly ruled by our the consequences of past choices. Every choice has a consequence and in some way effects the tapestry as a whole, the pattern evolves through every single human being but still making a clear image. I would NOT under ANY circumstances want to fuck around with what happened in the past, I accept every horrible thing ever done as part of what makes my existence my existence. Bearing prejudice against the descendants of those who shaped my existence is among the highest absurdities I can conceive.

The world would be a vastly different place if it weren’t for Britain’s imperialism or anything else on your list. I really have no desire to change any of it and I certainly have no desire to exhaust myself on something as plainly stupid as begrudging someone’s descendants for my life.

So yes, I forgive them even though there was never a question on the matter for me.

I, on behalf of every member of NS General who has read this, would like to thank you for the image that gave. But please, in future, keep things like this to yourself?
ROFLMAO!

He's not even telling the whole story! What about the ropes and the apple cores and the gasoline can?

Well don't blame me! It was your idea in the first place! And plus, you were the one who wanted to pour blood over his back, weren't you?

Now now, you two were just overreacting a bit in your escalation after what I did to you. ;)

I, on behalf of every member of NS General who has read this, would like to thank you for the image that gave. But please, in future, keep things like this to yourself?
no, he should definately NOT keep that to himself...mmmmm....

Forgiving is an invitation to destruction. There are many examples throughout history:

Jesus forgave mankind for their sins, and got nailed to a tree for it.

France forgave the Vikings for sacking their coastline, and even paid them compensation. The Vikings came back every year again and again for the next hundred.

Ghandi forgave the British for their imperialism in India, and got shot.

To forgive someone for something they have done to you is the same as saying "I don't really mind, why don't you do it again?" Thus, one can never forgive anyone for anything. However, you can selectively forget things, which is a much better system IMHO.

Now now, you two were just overreacting a bit in your escalation after what I did to you. ;)
Yeah. Now that is a story we must share some other time (when there aren't so many people under 17 on these forums;)).

Forgiving is an invitation to destruction. There are many examples throughout history:

Jesus forgave mankind for their sins, and got nailed to a tree for it.

France forgave the Vikings for sacking their coastline, and even paid them compensation. The Vikings came back every year again and again for the next hundred.

Ghandi forgave the British for their imperialism in India, and got shot.

*falls over in chair howling with laughter*

I'm sorry if you didn't mean this to be funny but...let me just add in a few more so you understand where my mind carried this:

I forgave my husband for not washing the dishes, and the garden shed burned down!

My brother forgave his friend for dumping water on him while he was sleeping...and my bro got fired the next day!

IF ONLY WE HADN'T FORGIVEN!!!! :eek:

Of course I can forgive Vietnam, as they didn't start it. The United States started it, and I still haven't forgiven our government.

And yet... you're a Democrat. (Guess which party in power it was that didn't recognize Vietnam's independence in 1947, and which president it was that used the War to fund his 'Great Society' in 1963-1968...and which president got us the hell out..? OH, and which party held the Congress all the way through the war.) It's nice to see you can't forgive yourself, Potaria. Maybe your guilt can ease the suffering of disabled vets sent to fight Your war.

I forgive Lunatic Goofballs.

I mean, c'mon, who couldn't, when he flashes those big puppy-dog eyes your way.

Now Goofballs, put the puppy-dog's eyes back. He needs them to see with...

Holy crap...Potaria is a DEMOCRAT!!!??? *my world crumbles*

I forgive Lunatic Goofballs.

I mean, c'mon, who couldn't, when he flashes those big puppy-dog eyes your way.

Now Goofballs, put the puppy-dog's eyes back. He needs them to see with...

Awww... :( *grumble*

Now Goofballs, put the puppy-dog's eyes back. He needs them to see with...
ROFL...when did the world get so friggin FUNNY!!???

What the fuck? I've said many times, VERY CLEARLY, that I am *not* a Democrat.

Take your strawman elsewhere, Cadillac.

And yet... you're a Democrat. (Guess which party in power it was that didn't recognize Vietnam's independence in 1947, and which president it was that used the War to fund his 'Great Society' in 1963-1968...and which president got us the hell out..? OH, and which party held the Congress all the way through the war.) It's nice to see you can't forgive yourself, Potaria. Maybe your guilt can ease the suffering of disabled vets sent to fight Your war.
I think you kinda missed the point too.

*falls over in chair howling with laughter*

I'm sorry if you didn't mean this to be funny but...let me just add in a few more so you understand where my mind carried this:

[examples that for some dumb reason don't quote in]

I'm glad you see where I'm coming from. Though to keep the spirit of the argument going, all your examples showed apparently unconnected consequences to your acts of forgiveness, while mine had a fairly clear cause-and-effect to them.

I think more scientific inquiries into the phenomanae [sp] of Forgivness=Destruction are warranted.

As was said, you missed the point. That aside, Vietnam could be taken back to the French.



I'm a firm believer that the course of human history should not be in anyway altered or even reviled, let alone justify prejudice.

Imagine humanity as a tapestry of choices, everything that was done in the past is already weaved, the present offers choices threaded from where our past led them, and the future is near infinitely variably but firmly ruled by our the consequences of past choices. Every choice has a consequence and in some way effects the tapestry as a whole, the pattern evolves through every single human being but still making a clear image. I would NOT under ANY circumstances want to fuck around with what happened in the past, I accept every horrible thing ever done as part of what makes my existence my existence. Bearing prejudice against the descendants of those who shaped my existence is among the highest absurdities I can conceive.

The world would be a vastly different place if it weren’t for Britain’s imperialism or anything else on your list. I really have no desire to change any of it and I certainly have no desire to exhaust myself on something as plainly stupid as begrudging someone’s descendants for my life.

So yes, I forgive them even though there was never a question on the matter for me.

Guess what? You described history as it is written already.

I'm glad you see where I'm coming from. Though to keep the spirit of the argument going, all your examples showed apparently unconnected consequences to your acts of forgiveness, while mine had a fairly clear cause-and-effect to them. I was just illustrating the way my strange mind carries things to their illogical conclusion:) Cripes, I'm still thinking up shit and giggling like an idiot :D

I think more scientific inquiries into the phenomanae [sp] of Forgivness=Destruction are warranted.
Now that would be interesting, though how you could possibly use the scientific method in an inquiry like this is beyond me:)

Now that would be interesting, though how you could possibly use the scientific method in an inquiry like this is beyond me:)

Question: Does forgiving someone cause something bad to happen to you through cause and effect?

Hypothesis: Yes it does.

Method: Get three groups of randomly-selected subjects, Group A, Group B and Group C. Group A will be our control group. They are allowed to procede through normal life without interferenc from the researches. Group B will be instructed to forgive every and any slight, offense, or rudeness shown to them. Group C is the opposite: they must react to every offense, and under no circumstances forgive the offender. They are then set loose in the world, prerfebelly with gigantic tracking collars that scream "dork" (figuratively speaking).

Test Hypothesis: Follow the progress of the three groups.

Report Findings: Post on NS General forum.

I think you kinda missed the point too.

Well, I don't just forgive Anyone. There has to be an admission of fault before I forgive, and an effort to (if not make restitution) cease doing harm.
Forgiveness without some form of repentance is simply a waste of energy.

Well, I don't just forgive Anyone. There has to be an admission of fault before I forgive, and an effort to (if not make restitution) cease doing harm.
Forgiveness without some form of repentance is simply a waste of energy.
I dittoize this.

Wait...Canada burnt down the White House? When did they? I thought we (The British) did that in or around 1812?

Just a history buff enquiring, no attacks being made.

Wait...Canada burnt down the White House? When did they? I thought we (The British) did that in or around 1812?

Just a history buff enquiring, no attacks being made.
Geographically, they were Canadians.

I remember Stephistan saying that it was Canadian-British troops that did the burnings. I mean, Canadians and British. More so on the Canadian part.

Geographically, they were Canadians.

I remember Stephistan saying that it was Canadian-British troops that did the burnings. I mean, Canadians and British. More so on the Canadian part.Technically, however, Canada didn't exist yet. I don't think it existed until the later 1800s. It was a French colony at that point, I think.

So the French burned the White House. :D

Technically, however, Canada didn't exist yet. I don't think it existed until the later 1800s. It was a French colony at that point, I think.

So the French burned the White House. :D
No. It was the Brits. We were a British colony. But we ever so much want to claim the burning of the Whitehouse as our own...please?

Funny how when I try to make a topic that tries to help people come together, people refuse to do so. Kinda answers the question "Why are we fighting?"

Technically, however, Canada didn't exist yet. I don't think it existed until the later 1800s. It was a French colony at that point, I think.

So the French burned the White House. :D
Well it's like saying the British won the French and Indian War. Technically the Americans won it because they fought it for the British.

Well it's like saying the British won the French and Indian War. Technically the Americans won it because they fought it for the British.That's far too general. The British were American, but so were the Indians. Which Americans do you refer to -- the "British Americans" or the "Indian Americans"? ;)

That's far too general. The British were American, but so were the Indians. Which Americans do you refer to -- the "British Americans" or the "Indian Americans"? ;)
The AMERICANS! :D

The AMERICANS! :DMy mod, another pro-US troll. :rolleyes: :D

I personally can forgive all of these to the best of my ability. Although some of them are slightly dubious. Islam and terrorism should not be put together in that way. The Byzantine Emperor Alexius I was responsible for the Crusades. But this is irrelevant. I do not know whether we will be "forgiven" for our colonial past, but then it remains to be seen whether many of us care. It must be remembered that a lot of good came from the British Empire, including the global drive for the abolition of slavery. We should all learn that everyone makes mistakes and that we all have reaons to feel shame, either on our own part or on the part of our nations.


A lot of good a fair amount of suffering came from the British Empire as well. Note however im not holding a grugde.

My mod, another pro-US troll. :rolleyes: :D
Better be sarcasm or you get worse on your Wiki page, boy.

I personally can forgive all of these to the best of my ability. Although some of them are slightly dubious. Islam and terrorism should not be put together in that way. The Byzantine Emperor Alexius I was responsible for the Crusades. But this is irrelevant. I do not know whether we will be "forgiven" for our colonial past, but then it remains to be seen whether many of us care. It must be remembered that a lot of good came from the British Empire, including the global drive for the abolition of slavery. We should all learn that everyone makes mistakes and that we all have reaons to feel shame, either on our own part or on the part of our nations.


Lets not kid ourselves The British Empire was resposible for a lot of suffering. Look at India

Better be sarcasm or you get worse on your Wiki page, boy.That was sarcasm of course....


...wait. Wiki page??? :confused:

EDIT: You unmentionable!!! :mp5:

That was sarcasm of course....


...wait. Wiki page??? :confused:

EDIT: You unmentionable!!! :mp5:
:D

I was getting bored waiting for you to notice, and figured out you'll never look there on your own.

How do I get NSwiki-ed?

Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion?
Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?
Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?
Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?
Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany?
Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?
Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal?
Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? (eh, wait, did they?)
Can you forgive Spain for slavery?

Well can you? We're all going to be rather doomed if you don't throw away your silly grudges against one another for events that took place before you were even born. We're all in this together, we all need to come together as one, we all need to remember that we are as civilized as we have ever been and we need to remember we cannot be even more civilized and advanced if we do not forgive.

We cannot control the government. We cannot control a lot of things. We can try. We can succeed. But when we fail terrible things happen. But when we fail we are not at fault. Events like World War 2 have shown us that indeed, a few men can plummet the world into chaos. A chain of events can cause mass destruction. A little bit of technology can flatten a city. A little competition can cause mad imperialization.

But we are not at fault.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

No one that's alive right now. That's for sure.


I forgive most of those things. About Vietnam, the only thing I can't forgive is our Presidents for not letting us win. If we had given the military a blank check, we could have easily won that war. And you can't blame Germany for WW2 (but you CAN blame them for the Halocaust) if I had been a German I would have wanted to kick some French and English butt. And Austria didn't side with Nazi Germany. They were taken over by Nazi Germany. Get it straight, that's like saying after France got owned they helped Germany. They didn't. They were forced. And I definately forgive England for imperialism. To me, Imperialism was a grand thing, and it would have been for you if you had lived back then too. (I don't think imperialism is grand anymore, for the record).. and lots of suffering did come out of imperialism too, i'll give you that

And you best all forgive us for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Millions more would have died without that. (Invasion of Japan, More Russian, Chinese, and Japanese casualties in China and Manchuria... and besides the fact without the intimidation of the bomb Stalin might have invaded Western Europe)

Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
Of course. It's not the Middle East's fault. Terrorists are in the minority.
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Yes. Those people only want a better life, for the most part.
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Well, it looks good in theory, it's just the way it's practiced that makes Communism bad.
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
The military had managed to get so much power that it would be very difficult for the people to get rid of it. Ever wonder why Japan has such a small, hard-to-notice military today?...
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
Islamic terrorists are very much in the minority, and do not accurately reflect the majority of Muslims.
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
If anything, you should be asking if we can forgive American(and other) corporate bastards for outsourcing, which ruins the economy of devloping countries and takes jobs away from developed countires.
Can you forgive Spain for slavery?
Pretty much EVERY nation has had slavery at some point, to some degree. I think we can forgive Spain since they're not doing that now.

:D

I was getting bored waiting for you to notice, and figured out you'll never look there on your own.I never look at my own pages. That's completely narcissistic. Not that I'm not already, but please! :D

No. It was the Brits. We were a British colony. But we ever so much want to claim the burning of the Whitehouse as our own...please?

Come on now, fellas. Canadians, British, French...Hell, even the Australians, if they want. We can all share in the memory of the most awesome barn-burner in history.

Also, the most critical aspect in this day and age, for Canadians at least, is that some of our boys wrote a song aboot it.

Come on now, fellas. Canadians, British, French...Hell, even the Australians, if they want. We can all share in the memory of the most awesome barn-burner in history.

Also, the most critical aspect in this day and age, for Canadians at least, is that some of our boys wrote a song aboot it.

Uh, could you maybe do it again? Here's $20. Think about it ...

Uh, could you maybe do it again? Here's $20. Think about it ...

Sounds good. I can rent a canoe, buy a few dozen boxes of Kraft Dinner, and be on my way.

How do I get NSwiki-ed?
If you want to create an NSwiki article, one way to do it would by to simply take the NSwiki address:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/

And follow it with the name of the page you want to create:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Unblogged

It should give you the option to create a new page.

I forgive most of those things. About Vietnam, the only thing I can't forgive is our Presidents for not letting us win. If we had given the military a blank check, we could have easily won that war. And you can't blame Germany for WW2 (but you CAN blame them for the Halocaust) if I had been a German I would have wanted to kick some French and English butt. And Austria didn't side with Nazi Germany. They were taken over by Nazi Germany. Get it straight, that's like saying after France got owned they helped Germany. They didn't. They were forced. And I definately forgive England for imperialism. To me, Imperialism was a grand thing, and it would have been for you if you had lived back then too. (I don't think imperialism is grand anymore, for the record).. and lots of suffering did come out of imperialism too, i'll give you that

And you best all forgive us for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Millions more would have died without that. (Invasion of Japan, More Russian, Chinese, and Japanese casualties in China and Manchuria... and besides the fact without the intimidation of the bomb Stalin might have invaded Western Europe)

The military was given a blank check in Vietnam after the Gulf of Tonkin incident. In my opinion, it was the media that lost Vietnam for us, after Tet.

Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization? ---It was a service, they should be glad.
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two? ---Yes, the people responsible are dead.
Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki? ---Yes, it spared further bloodshed.
Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion? ---The responsible leaders? No.
Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?--- Yes, of course.
Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?--- No, as it continues to do so.
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders? ---Yes, someone has to wash dishes.
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?--- Yes, in fact they are faring extremely well.
Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?--- Those responsible are dead.
Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?--- We can only apologize to vietnam.
Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?--- No.
Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?--- Not until it apologizes and changes its ways.
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?--- Islam isnt responsible, muslims are.
Can you forgive India for taking American jobs? ---Yes, we'd do the same to them.
Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany? ---Yes, see above.
Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?--- No, russians are evil.
Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal? ---Yes, its practically colombia.
Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? ---(eh, wait, did they?) Absolutely.
Can you forgive Spain for slavery? ---Yes, I love spain.

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Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
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1) Yes; but not for Massachusetts. They should have tried harder.

2) Yes; but, not for WW... er ... THE FALL OF ROME! Yeah, good one.

3) Yes; but, remember the a - la - mode. Or something.

4) Yes; but, nor for the Maine.

5) Yes; but, not for ... i dunno. Prayer pads?

Sounds good. I can rent a canoe, buy a few dozen boxes of Kraft Dinner, and be on my way.

It's not the Republic I mind. Just everything inside the beltway...

Can you forgive Britain for their imperialization?
Yes.

Can you forgive Germany for World War Two?
Yes.

Can you forgive America for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
I try. But this is probably the worst one on here, so it's tough.

Can you forgive Iraq for the Kuwaiti invasion?
Yes.

Can you forgive Canada for burning the White House?
LOL yes.

Can you forgive the Middle East giving birth to the terrorists?
They have done nothing that needs an apology or our forgiveness. It is in reality the West's fault for screwing up the middle east, what with the Imperial division of it by the great powers, and the creation of the state of Israel, which one must admit, really pissed them off, and spawned a lot of the hate and terrorists we see now. Can I forgive the terrorists? I try, it's the right thing to do.

Can you forgive Mexico for having their people come across the borders?
LOL. Blame mexico. Mexico shouldn't be forgiven, because they have done nothing to be forgiven for. The people who cross the damn border, they are at fault, and yes I can forgive them.

Can you forgive Cuba for communism?
You are speaking to a socialist. Cuba has done nothing wrong in having a government you might not agree with. It's actually worked out rather well. Now if only they can keep the socialism and drop the dictatorship.... one can dream.

Can you forgive Japan for imperialization?
Yes.

Can you forgive Vietnam for the Vietnam War?
No. The US and South Vietnam started that war. There were going to be elections to elect a leader of a Unified Vietnam, and it was clear to Diem(South Vietman dictator) that Ho Chi Minh would win, so he decided to cancel the elections, and we supported him in that. We helped deny the people of a nation democratic elections and that caused the war.

Can you forgive Ireland for the I.R.A.?
I can forgive the IRA. I don't blame Ireland for them, anymore than I blame Saudi Arabia for Bin Laden.

Can you forgive Christianity for the crusades?
Yes, but the lessons of those failures and thier fallout should not be forgotten.

Can you forgive Islam for terrorism?
I don't blame Islam for Terrorism.

Can you forgive India for taking American jobs?
LOL. Yes.

Can you forgive Austria for siding with Nazi Germany?
You mean for being annexed in the Anschulss? Yes.

Can you forgive Russia for the Iron Curtain?
I blame Stalin for the Iron Curtain, not Russia. That crazy bastard ruined Communism for us all. But I try and forgive him.

Can you forgive Colombia for hogging the Panama Canal?
LOL. LOL. Colombia didn't want to sell, so the US engineered a revolution in Panama. The US needs to be the one we forgive, not Colombia.

Can you forgive China for outlawing religon? (eh, wait, did they?)
Yes.

Can you forgive Spain for slavery?
Why the hell not.

Well can you? We're all going to be rather doomed if you don't throw away your silly grudges against one another for events that took place before you were even born. We're all in this together, we all need to come together as one, we all need to remember that we are as civilized as we have ever been and we need to remember we cannot be even more civilized and advanced if we do not forgive.

We cannot control the government. We cannot control a lot of things. We can try. We can succeed. But when we fail terrible things happen. But when we fail we are not at fault. Events like World War 2 have shown us that indeed, a few men can plummet the world into chaos. A chain of events can cause mass destruction. A little bit of technology can flatten a city. A little competition can cause mad imperialization.

But we are not at fault.

You know who we should be pointing our fingers at?

No one that's alive right now. That's for sure.

Work with me. You won't see me do this again for awhile.

You suprise me here, in a good way. Forgiveness is always the way, but we should never loose the lesson.
However, I can and will use evidence from the past to predict the course of a nation, and to give evidence of the mentality of a nation. But I'm always willing to try and forgive.

Geographically, they were Canadians.

I remember Stephistan saying that it was Canadian-British troops that did the burnings. I mean, Canadians and British. More so on the Canadian part.

Nope, at best this is wishful thinking. Even nascent Canadians weren't there, unless they were British regulars from England -- a small number at best. Perhaps a dozen at most.
I quote... me! :
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9130447&postcount=37

Washington DC was burned by Admiral Sir George Cockburn (born in London) and General Robert Ross (born in Northern Ireland). The expedition was carried out between August 19 and August 29, 1814.

Please cite ANY souces you can that these British officers were leading Canadian troops. I can't find a single site that doesn't say "regular British troops".

"In July, another task force under the command of Admiral William Cochrane, commander of Royal Navy forces on the North American station, arrived in the Chesapeake. The transports in Cochrane's command carried a landing force of approximately 5,400 British Army regulars under Major General John Ross, a veteran of the Peninsular Campaign in Europe. The objective of joint naval and ground campaign was the capture and sacking of Washington in response to the American torching of Toronto in Canada the previous year."
http://www.exwar.org/Htm/8000PopB2.htm