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I want to know what the other people think. Beatles? Metallica? Black Sabbath? Sugarhill Gang? Monkees? Give your thoughts.

Aerosmith

There is no greatest because it depends on the type of music you preffer. For my musical tastes Black Sabbath is the greatest. I like metal and it is nearly impossible to listen to a heavy metal song without hearing some black sabbath influence in the music. Its like they invented every hook, every riff, every sound that constitutes metal and everyone else has simply been rearranging them since then. That's not to say that people havent made improvements to those classic sounds throughout the years, but the base still remains the same.

Elastic

I dont know, apparently its Radiohead as worked out by various methods, but I disagree. Maybe beatles, maybe Nirvana, maybe Oasis...lot of maybes really

The Beatles.

No, you're all wrong. Its Tenacious D. :D

For hard rock, it's Led Zeppelin.

Def Leppard!!! ;)

Stone Roses for me

Since "greatest" is a very subjective thing, I think what would be a better gauge is to ask who has had the most influence on other artists. The Beatles would probably win by default, with Led Zeppelin coming in a close second.

Since "greatest" is a very subjective thing, I think what would be a better gauge is to ask who has had the most influence on other artists. The Beatles would probably win by default, with Led Zeppelin coming in a close second.

Unless you define Elvis and whoever happened to be playing with him at a given time as a band.

Skrewdriver, the Klansmen, and any other group Ian Stuart Donaldson was in.

it really depends. Arguably the best live band was Grateful Dead...Pink Floyd put on the most elaborate shows. The best band in general? Impossible to say. I'll go with popular opinion and say the Beatles.

Alabama :D

I would say Radiohead, Nirvana or Metallica. Just my opinion.

Others who might get a look in include Led Zep and The Beatles.

Look it is obviously the sex pistols

Dunno about greatest.

Best is Sonata Arctica.

I know I'll change my mind the second I push the button....

The Blitz

Def Leppard!!! ;)
What has 9 arms and sucks?

The Backstreet Boys

What has 9 arms and sucks? :D :D
got that right.

Personally I feel the greatest band of all time are The Beatles.

That's like asking for the greatest film of all time. You can list some of your personal favorites, but even then there are so many which are so good.

I'm into rock music, so I'd have to go with the traditional rock choices Led Zep, Floyd, Hendrix etc.
Def Leppard!!! ;)
Hey, you hear about that drummer? He's only got one arm ;)

The Beatles.


:)

too many to pick, zepplin the beatles nrivana chilipeppers pink floyd the stones metallica, hell lou reed, i dont care if hes not a "band" he needs to be on the list somewhere, oh hendrix too and cream, blind faith, clapton stuff in general, specially if ginger bakers there too, sex pistols ramones radiohead idk
realllly hard to say

In terms of influence, they would be the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Black Sabbath.

lou reed, i dont care if hes not a "band" he needs to be on the list somewhere

Ever heard the Velvet Underground?

The Beatles. Strawberry fields forever!

Dunno, never having been at the end of all time and therefore lacking perspective.
In a mix of how influential they are, how much i like them etc. i go for The Clash.

Yeah, that's right, your all wrong! Everybody knows that The Smiths are by far the best band ever!

There is no greatest because it depends on the type of music you preffer. For my musical tastes Black Sabbath is the greatest. I like metal and it is nearly impossible to listen to a heavy metal song without hearing some black sabbath influence in the music. Its like they invented every hook, every riff, every sound that constitutes metal and everyone else has simply been rearranging them since then. That's not to say that people havent made improvements to those classic sounds throughout the years, but the base still remains the same.
can u talk 2 me???

Yeah, that's right, your all wrong! Everybody knows that The Smiths are by far the best band ever!
you are weird will you talk 2 me??

green day are good but are a bit over played and over rated who agrees :gundge: :gundge: :gundge:

Bigbang! The greatest Norwegian band of all times!!! :)

John Mayall's Bluesbreakers.

Pink Floyd or Super Groove

The Who, followed by INXS, Genesis and Dire Straits.

Beatles for overall influence and all that stuff...

Best live...hmmmm...no idea, haven't seen em all, never will :( Metallica for power, Grateful Dead for music and Pink Floyd for class :D

Personal fave...led zep...

maybe Metallica, Led Zeppelin, Beatles and Black Sabbath

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the truly best band evar: Queen. Queen, for those who don't know, are Freddie Mercury (dead of bronchio-pneumonia brought on by AIDS), Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon. Best band. Evar.

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the truly best band evar: Queen. Queen, for those who don't know, are Freddie Mercury (dead of bronchio-pneumonia brought on by AIDS), Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon. Best band. Evar.

Best lead man maybe...but....

london symphony orchestra. i win!

Nirvana.

Nirvana.
In the words of Stewie "You suck!"

The Beatles.
Agreed.

In the words of Stewie "You suck!"
In the words of Marilyn Manson "It's not your fault that you're always wrong." :)

In the words of Marilyn Manson "It's not your fault that you're always wrong." :)
AHAHHAHAAAAAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHAAAHHAHA, that is so funny! You should do stand up! No, seriously you got me there. Listen to Neurosis and change your life.

Dunno about greatest.

Best is Sonata Arctica.²

It's all about the FUGAZI, obviously..

Iron Maiden has to be mentioned. \m/\m/

The most influential would have to be The Clash, because not only did they make millions off their music, so did Rancid. Most awesome would be Choking Victim, because songs about scabies are awesome. Without my 'bias' towards 'punk' I'd say Anthrax or Type O Negative.

The most influential would have to be The Clash

I'll have to argue that. The Sex Pistols influenced many more, and not just in the Punk Rock genre. They influenced so many that you could say they influenced "everyone and his brother". Why do you think The Clash started? It was because of the Sex Pistols.

About a "greatest band of all time"... No. There isn't one that stands out as the "best" or "greatest".

I said it once and I'll say it again - The Backstreet Boys!

Metallica

Led Zeppelin in a close 2nd

I said it once and I'll say it again - The Backstreet Boys!
they're not a band, they don't play instruments :)

The London Philamonic Orchestra :P

No, seriously, its got to be Tenacious D! After all, they did the best song in the world (Then forgot it!)

No, seriously, its got to be Tenacious D! After all, they did the best song in the world (Then forgot it!)
don't worry, Wig Wam did that one too :)

Best on worldwide influence and progress, as well as music talent - Beatles.

My Favourite - most personal influencial - Radiohead

I said it once and I'll say it again - The Backstreet Boys!

No... No... No!

That's not even a real band!!

NWA was influential, although in my opinion not very good. Tribe Called Quest was one of the greatest.

The greatest band during a era was Genesis from 1971 to 1974. The greatest band overall is King Crimson, of course.

NWA was influential, although in my opinion not very good. Tribe Called Quest was one of the greatest.those aren't bands, are they? do they play instruments?

Spinal Tap!

"These go to eleven..."

Tupac is the greatest. He still pops out albums years after his death.
Thug life.
(I think he sucks ass from a straw, personally.)

Tupac is the greatest. He still pops out albums years after his death.
Thug life.
(I think he sucks ass from a straw, personally.)
not. a. BAND!

it's a tie:

Garbage and Erasure

those aren't bands, are they? do they play instruments?
They don't play instruments (besides beatboxing), but you can still call them bands.

not. a. BAND!

Whoooooocares?

Biggie > Tupac.

But Tupac ahs the power to amke albums from the grave. Sick, really.

Aerosmith
You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

Whoooooocares?If you wanna talk about "greatest rapper", go make your own topic. We're talking about real music.

Biggie > Tupac.
.

Don't be a dick. It is all sarcasm.

There is no one greatest band.

NIN
Marilyn Manson
Ministry
Metallica (older stuff)
Temptations
Parliament
Primus
Doc Watson
Ramones
Talking Heads
Buju Banton
Peter Tosh

How the hell can I choose?

Just take a look at the link in my sig...
On a (marginally) more serious note...how about Emerson, Lake & Palmer? Oh, I just loves prog.
Pink Floyd for me, every time: Wish You Were Here is the best album ever, Comfortably Numb is the best song ever, Pink Floyd are the best band ever.
EDIT: Surprised no one's mentioned the Dead Kennedys yet...

We got this far in the thread without a U2 mention? I'm surprised! Biggest band in the world for years, at least three top class albums, and an end to world poverty too!
Mind you, I usually find it hard to look past the Stones, the Beatles, the Zep, the Floyd, the Smiths, the Pixies and Therapy.

Iron Maiden has to be mentioned. \m/\m/

Iron Maiden rule, but only with Bruce. Paul Di'anno and Blaze Bayley both sucked as vocalists, especially Di'anno.

That happened to a lot of great bands; they lost a key member and went downhill (yes, I know Paul predated Bruce, but you get the point). It happened to Black Sabbath, too.

Still, I'd vote Iron Maiden. "Piece of Mind">>Everything.

If you wanna talk about "greatest rapper", go make your own topic. We're talking about real music.
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I said it once and I'll say it again - The Backstreet Boys!

NSYNC 4 LIF!!!

Bon Jovi -- not #1, of course, but one of the top bands from the 80s-90s and early 2000 (they seem to be running on fumes)

Consider:

Livin' On a Prayer
You Give Love a Bad Name
Wanted Dead or Alive
Lay Your Hands On Me
Bad Medicine
I'll Be There For You
Blaze of Glory
Born To Be My Baby
I Believe
Keep The Faith
Bed Of Roses
Always
This Ain't a Love Song
It's My Life
Thank You For Loving Me

If you wanna talk about "greatest rapper", go make your own topic. We're talking about real music.
What about the Sugarhill Gang and Fab 5? Those were some good bands and they were rap!

chuck berry
beatles
jefferson airplane
quicksilver messenger service
stones
traffic / blind faith/ cream/ derek and the domonoes/ whatever
allman bros
zeppelin
genesis
police
cars
smiths
cure
cult
EBTG
daft punk
paul van dyk...

for me at least...

Minor Threat

one of the big punk bands of the early 80's, and started straight edge. they influence me musically and lyrically.

Parthini']NSYNC 4 LIF!!!

Shakes head

There is no greatest because it depends on the type of music you preffer. For my musical tastes Black Sabbath is the greatest. I like metal and it is nearly impossible to listen to a heavy metal song without hearing some black sabbath influence in the music. Its like they invented every hook, every riff, every sound that constitutes metal and everyone else has simply been rearranging them since then. That's not to say that people havent made improvements to those classic sounds throughout the years, but the base still remains the same.

Bullshit theres no greates band its The Clash because i fucking say it is (jkin)

Brand New. I am such an emo sucker (I also konw that the band rejects the title of emo).

Two words.

The doors.

"In life there are things know and there are things unknown and inbetween are the doors"-Jim morrison.

Pearl Jam

For Australia Silverchair

Iron Maiden rule, but only with Bruce. Paul Di'anno and Blaze Bayley both sucked as vocalists, especially Di'anno.

That happened to a lot of great bands; they lost a key member and went downhill (yes, I know Paul predated Bruce, but you get the point). It happened to Black Sabbath, too.

Still, I'd vote Iron Maiden. "Piece of Mind">>Everything.

Undoubetdly Maiden. Current line up. Only thing that could possibly top it is if they did it with a full orchestra and choir behind them for the sheer friggin spectacle of it

uhm... ahem... yes Maiden.

Pink Floyd. Duh.

Dschinghis Khan

For Australia Silverchair

When we have the likes of AC/DC and Nick Cave/The Birthday Party? Nahhh. Silverchair are OK, but they're Nirvana in pyjamas. Spiderbait did the grunge thing a lot better.

When we have the likes of AC/DC and Nick Cave/The Birthday Party? Nahhh. Silverchair are OK, but they're Nirvana in pyjamas. Spiderbait did the grunge thing a lot better.

That's the stuff, man. Only truly rivaled by the "British Grenadiers".

>.>

*runs*

When we have the likes of AC/DC and Nick Cave/The Birthday Party? Nahhh. Silverchair are OK, but they're Nirvana in pyjamas. Spiderbait did the grunge thing a lot better.

I was talking about Dioramma era Silverchair...

I like the Killers.

Musicwise, I'd have to go with... a lot of 'em.

Stagewise, definitely Pink Floyd.

For the band members themselves, I've got to say Charlie Daniels Band or Toby Kieth. They both perform free concerts for America's troops, and plus, they, too, have good music.

For the band members themselves, I've got to say Charlie Daniels Band or Toby Kieth. They both perform free concerts for America's troops, and plus, they, too, have good music.

I could easily refute that claim.

Something terrible happened. I got a cd of Lashie's punk music. And I like it. I'm so ashamed. :(

METALLICA!!!.....Who doesnt know that? :headbang:

All kneel before the acme of weird fat blokes singing in Spanish that is THE PIXIES.

Something terrible happened. I got a cd of Lashie's punk music. And I like it. I'm so ashamed. :(

Don't be. It's probably very good stuff.

METALLICA!!!.....Who doesnt know that?

Oh, you mean Wanktallica/Metalliwank? Sorry, but... No.

Tool.
I say this because I believe music ought to be art rather than mere entertainment-something that can get you thinking and move you to change, to reject what is screwed up in society and do whatever it takes to become human.

Tool.
I say this because I believe music ought to be art rather than mere entertainment-something that can get you thinking and move you to change, to reject what is screwed up in society and do whatever it takes to become human.
How does Tool get this then?

System of a Down does a significantly better job of getting you thinking and moving you to change, to reject what is screwed up society and do whatever it takes to become human...or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, Tool is deep. But to me, it seems to be a lot more on a personal level, whereas System of a Down (and I could name some others) is more on a societal level.

Nine Inch Nails has some of both.

But I'm not submitting any band for "the best," because I don't know if I believe in the concept of having a single "best" band ever.

I could easily refute that claim.

At least that's what I think.

The Doors.

Listen to Neurosis and change your life.Neurosis is a good band. Souls At Zero is an awesome album. Their collaboration with Jarboe is damn good, too. But Nirvana's still better. :)

* System Of A Down, they manage to be beautiful and brutal, the very definition of experimentation in music.

* Lamb of God for sheer technical ability. Unbelievably skilled.

* Beatles, The Rolling Stones and The Doors for their influnce in the music scene.

* The Hives. They're not overly special in the music department but I've never seen a more entertaining act live

* Rage Against The Machine. They just rocked hard.

* The Hives. They're not overly special in the music department but I've never seen a more entertaining act live

I *totally* agree. For me, the only other group that has come close is Mudhoney. But the Hives blew me away and I walked away an instant fan.

I was talking about Dioramma era Silverchair...

Hm. Can't say i'm a fan of that. Neon Ballroom (minus Anthem for the Year 2000, which sucks) is their best IMO...then maybe a couple from Freak Show. I haven't heard either in years, though.

All kneel before the acme of weird fat blokes singing in Spanish that is THE PIXIES.

One two three
She's a real left winger 'cause she been down south
And held peasants in her arms
She said "I could tell you a story that could make you cry"
"What about you?"
I said "Me too"
"I could tell you a story that will make you cry"
And she sighed "Aaahh"
I said "I wanna be a singer like Lou Reed"
"I like Lou Reed" she said sticking her tongue in my ear
"Let's go, let's sit, let's talk"
"Politics go so good with beer"
"And while we're at it baby, why don't you tell me one of your biggest fears?"
I said "Loosing my penis to a whore with disease"
She said "Excuse me please?"
"Just kidding" I said "Losing my life to a whore with disease"
I said "Please... I'm a humble guy with a healthy desire..."
"Don't give me no shit because..."

I've been tired!

:D

Grog and Thog, the cavemen who first hit rocks together to a rhythym. Evertything that followed was derivitive crap.
[/somewhat tounge in cheek]

Seriously, whomever "invented" music would have to be the greatest. Unfortunately (or perchance fortunately) thier names are lost to history...

Tough, certainly the old bands are way better than the modern ones in my opinion.

It is dificult to name one so i will name a few:

Metallica
Queen
Pink Floyd
SOAD ( a refreshing new and original band)
Pantera
Guns N Roses

The band that has most influenced modern day metal, is probs Metallica and GnR with perhaps a hint of Pantera? So i think there needs to be a combination of bands to make the greatest!

Of course, my favourite is Metallica, but the 80s and 90s stuff, St Anger is shocking.

too many choices...

of course Elvis, after all he was the "first"
Little Richard
Buddy Holly
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Smokey Robinson
Beach Boys (oddly have had a huge impact on a lot of styles)
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Rolling Stones
Stevie Wonder
The Who
Simon And Garfunkel
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
P-Funk
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
Black Sabbath
Guns 'N Roses
Moody Blues
SOAD
Nirvana
Red Hot Chili Peppers

too many choices...

of course Elvis, after all he was the "first"
Little Richard
Buddy Holly
Aretha Franklin
Marvin Gaye
Smokey Robinson
Beach Boys (oddly have had a huge impact on a lot of styles)
The Beatles
Bob Dylan
Rolling Stones
Stevie Wonder
The Who
Simon And Garfunkel
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Janis Joplin
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
P-Funk
The Eagles
Fleetwood Mac
Black Sabbath
Guns 'N Roses
Moody Blues
SOAD
Nirvana
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Agreed I would add Tool and Deftones to the list...I think the topic should be "most influential" as "best" is totally subjective and impossible to determine, but a list of influential bands can have quantified properties.

And how can one forget Robert Johnson? He started blues guitar, which led to rock which led to other genres. Pearl Jam was also revolutionary at the time, same influence as Nirvana. SRV took a lot of influence from Jimi, but many more, like Kenny Wayne Shepherd took influence from SRV. Still too hard to determine most influencial!

EDIT: and Derek and the Dominoes/Cream/Disraeli Gears etc...

Agreed I would add Tool and Deftones to the list...I think the topic should be "most influential" as "best" is totally subjective and impossible to determine, but a list of influential bands can have quantified properties.

And how can one forget Robert Johnson? He started blues guitar, which led to rock which led to other genres. Pearl Jam was also revolutionary at the time, same influence as Nirvana. SRV took a lot of influence from Jimi, but many more, like Kenny Wayne Shepherd took influence from SRV. Still too hard to determine most influencial!
hmm...don't know about deftones, but I haven't listened to them much. Tool, definatly. I was tempted to list people like Louis Armstrong because lets face it, he had more influence on rock than probably any rock musician (along witht he other jazz greats). Robert Johnson is a god. 'nuff said. And I don;t know how I forgot Pearl Jam. I was listening to Given to Fly as I was writing up my list.

There are so many greats. I think its fun to try and figure out who will be added to that list.

QUEEN

Something terrible happened. I got a cd of Lashie's punk music. And I like it. I'm so ashamed. :(

It's a good thing, believe me :)

PINK FLOYD!!!
The first and the best psychadelic/art house/COMPLETELY RANDOM band out there. I mean, how can you compete with Dark Side of the Moon, Animals, Meddle, or The Wall! Timeless classics all.

Skrewdriver, the Klansmen, and any other group Ian Stuart Donaldson was in.


crazy skinhead types...

It's a good thing, believe me :)

You know what else is a good thing? My vinyl rip of the original 1977 pressing of Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols. Kanabia knows how good it is ;).

* Lamb of God for sheer technical ability. Unbelievably skilled.
lol, go listen to some Dream Theater, Symphony X or Yngwie Malmsteen.

Or hell, listen to some CoB or any other Finnish Melodic Metalband :p

Oh dear... so many...
erm...

Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Rolling Stones
Aerosmith
Queen
Marilyn Manson (around the Antichrist Superstar time though... new stuff ain't so good without Twiggy)
Silverchair were fab with Neon Ballroom (I love Ana's Song) and Frog Stomp but never really got into Dioramma...
The Eagles
REM

Oh there are loads that I love... *runs out of thread to stop herself singing Ana's song all day*

It took us to #119 before the right answer was given:

R.E.M.

Tough, certainly the old bands are way better than the modern ones in my opinion.

It is dificult to name one so i will name a few:

Metallica
Queen
Pink Floyd
SOAD ( a refreshing new and original band)
Pantera
Guns N Roses

The band that has most influenced modern day metal, is probs Metallica and GnR with perhaps a hint of Pantera? So i think there needs to be a combination of bands to make the greatest!

Of course, my favourite is Metallica, but the 80s and 90s stuff, St Anger is shocking.

I completely agree. Although I would probably add Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden to that list.

What a subjective topic this is. It's really only good for belittling the tastes of others... but since I'm here...

The White Stripes
The Hives
The Who
The Doors
The Rolling Stones
Pink Floyd

The Pink Floyd... no, doesn't sound right at all.

Musical tastes are subjective.

Deciding who was the most influencial, successful, and most groundbreaking artists, thus making them the "greatest" band...isnt.

The Beatles.

No contest.

It cannot be sanely argued that any other group or solo artist made such an impact on the music scene, or had such success, or changed their own genre of music as profoundly as the Beatles did.

Not even Elvis, or The Stones.

Heavy distortion..

Concept albums..

Looping effects...

Not touring to support the recent albums...

Starting your own label..


They did it first.

I want to know what the other people think. Beatles? Metallica? Black Sabbath? Sugarhill Gang? Monkees? Give your thoughts.


Man, that's hard. Iron maiden definitely has to be one of them. well, that kinda goes without saying, but whatever.

Hey, since we're on the subject of great bands, can I just ask what is this big prejudice aginst the Dresden Dolls? Amanda palmer is one of the best pianists ever, even better than Something Corporate's Andrew McMahon, yet people say she is crap and that her singing voice is totally sad and that she is ugly (flabby and hairy were the words, I believe) so why does she flaunt her body, etc.. At least she has the confidence to go up on stage in her stage make-up and lingerie and do what she does. Her singing style is unique, she can play the piano to hell and back and yet people diss her all the time. They never diss Brian, so why does Amanda have to put up with all that crap? All those cowards who insult her should know she doesn't take it to heart, and good on her.

The Beatles

I think Iron Maiden is overrated. I mean I respect them a lot for what they have done over the years, and sure, I even understand why they are so popular. But look at the songs, it's the same things over and over. Any decent heavy metal guitarist could play along their new cd because it contains so easily predictable melody lines. But as I said there's an audience for this stuff as well so no complaints there, keep it up.

The Clash.
Closely followed by The Clash.

Just... come on. Disagreeing is wrong.

I suppose other contenders would be Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Sex Pistols, Ramones, Pink Floyd, Tool, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rage Against the Machine, The Velvet Underground, U2... yeah.

The Grateful Dead, without doubt. :D

"Oh its surely looks like rain..."

The Grateful Dead, without doubt. :D


I suppose you think listening to Jerry Garcia, wacked off his grape on heroin, playing the same note over and over, until Bob Weir can get him back on track is great, huh?

I suppose you think listening to Jerry Garcia, wacked off his grape on heroin, playing the same note over and over, until Bob Weir can get him back on track is great, huh?
Well, Janis Joplin and The Jefferson Airplane were good too. :P

Well, Janis Joplin and The Jefferson Airplane were good too. :P

North Carolina, huh? I'd have guessed San Francisco... ;)

North Carolina, huh? I'd have guessed San Francisco... ;)
ROFL!

Ewwwww! [ hurls ] :D

I think Iron Maiden is overrated. I mean I respect them a lot for what they have done over the years, and sure, I even understand why they are so popular. But look at the songs, it's the same things over and over. Any decent heavy metal guitarist could play along their new cd because it contains so easily predictable melody lines. But as I said there's an audience for this stuff as well so no complaints there, keep it up.

WHAT? The best guitarists ever and you think they're underrated? Are you feeling alright?

Pink Floyd, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, Tool, Dream Theater

...and the best is: Pain of Salvation

(these are all "new" bands, except for Pink Floyd, but I think production of music is very important, and today the production is better than in the old times. And I don't listen to "old rock")

Pinkfloyd, The Beatles or Metallica

I think Iron Maiden is overrated. I mean I respect them a lot for what they have done over the years, and sure, I even understand why they are so popular. But look at the songs, it's the same things over and over. Any decent heavy metal guitarist could play along their new cd because it contains so easily predictable melody lines. But as I said there's an audience for this stuff as well so no complaints there, keep it up.


WHAT? The best guitarists ever and you think they're underrated? Are you feeling alright?

If you read that carefully you will notice that I didn't say that.
I think there is nothing wrong with the abilities of mr. Murray & co. It's just that their songs tend to be quite stuck to the same basic formula they once found useful.

Amanda palmer is one of the best pianists ever, even better than Something Corporate's Andrew McMahon, yet people say she is crap and that her singing voice is totally sad and that she is ugly (flabby and hairy were the words, I believe) so why does she flaunt her body, etc.. At least she has the confidence to go up on stage in her stage make-up and lingerie and do what she does. [/COLOR][/FONT]

Wha? From most of the pics i've seen she's hot. But she didn't have that makeup or anything on. Or maybe I was drunk. Whatever.

EDIT- After looking, I stand by my statement. Ugly? wtf?

Sloan, or ELO.
You might not have heard of those, but they're pretty damn good. As for the greatest band, I would say the Beatles, just because they were so influential. ;) l

The Beach Boys or The Beatles, one of the two.

Simply put? The Faces - Rod Stewart, Ronnie Wood, Ian McLagen, and a couple of other cats. And they were produced by Glyn Johns.

I mean, haven't any of you of the quote/unquote "younger set" heard of "Cindy Incidentally", "Ooh La La", "Stay With Me", and shirley you remember "Stay With Me"... Heck, The Faces, The Stones, The Beatles, The Dead and The Airplane formed a large foundation on which modern rock and roll today. And you should know by now that nothing cannot be built on the ground without a strong foundation...

If you don't believe me, ask your dads. Even your moms. I bet a large percentage of them had crushes on Rod Stewart... and I might go so far to say that several have you were conceived to "Someone Like You" or "Reason To Believe"...

No poop. Literally.

db
(Although I will add that I listen to a lot of Audioslave, Seether, QOTSA, and such these days...)

I want to know what the other people think. Beatles? Metallica? Black Sabbath? Sugarhill Gang? Monkees? Give your thoughts.

I'd have to say it was the Beatles - though I did have a serious crush on Davy Jones when I was a young girl. :)

I think Iron Maiden is overrated. I mean I respect them a lot for what they have done over the years, and sure, I even understand why they are so popular. But look at the songs, it's the same things over and over. Any decent heavy metal guitarist could play along their new cd because it contains so easily predictable melody lines. But as I said there's an audience for this stuff as well so no complaints there, keep it up.

As a big Maiden fan I have to agree that their more recent stuff isn't as good as their older stuff.

Also, it's not just one guitarist... Maiden has 3 guitars, one bass, one drummer and one lead vocalist... :D

The band that has most influenced modern day metal, is probs Metallica and GnR with perhaps a hint of Pantera? So i think there needs to be a combination of bands to make the greatest!

Of course, my favourite is Metallica, but the 80s and 90s stuff, St Anger is shocking.

Hmmm, I'd say Iron Maiden had the greatest metal influence throughout the 80s and 90s. Then Blaze Baily came along and tainted their name...

Hmmm, I'd say Iron Maiden had the greatest metal influence throughout the 80s and 90s. Then Blaze Baily came along and tainted their name...

well, in the 80's, Metallica was at least as influential. Look at their albums from that era - I mean they had so many killer riffs that they didn't know where to put them. They then ended up using about eight of them in the same song, which made the albums very fresh, innovative and even progressive, in a sense.

Iron Maiden rule, but only with Bruce. Paul Di'anno and Blaze Bayley both sucked as vocalists, especially Di'anno.

That happened to a lot of great bands; they lost a key member and went downhill (yes, I know Paul predated Bruce, but you get the point). It happened to Black Sabbath, too.

Still, I'd vote Iron Maiden. "Piece of Mind">>Everything.

Bruce is definitely the best vocalist Maiden has had. I didn't think Paul was that bad though. He was a different sound but he wasn't horrible. Not so good live though.

Blaze was the worst IMO. After seeing a few tracks from X-Factor and Virtual XI, I almost had to rip my ears off. He's crap.

well i didn't bother reading through it all, so it could have been said before, but Velvet Underground have got to be one of the most influential bands of all time. you can hear them in almost all rock bands nowadays.

Hrmm....

For mainstream bands I'm going to say NIN (http://www.nin.com).

But for underground bands it's Absent Minded (http://www.myspace.com/absentminded), for punk and rock'n'roll, and Cities Burn Away (http://www.myspace.com/citiesburnaway), for metal.

well, in the 80's, Metallica was at least as influential. Look at their albums from that era - I mean they had so many killer riffs that they didn't know where to put them. They then ended up using about eight of them in the same song, which made the albums very fresh, innovative and even progressive, in a sense.

Aye, I can't deny that. They were good. Though since they lost a member to Megadeth... bleh.

Kill 'Em All
Ride The Lightning
Master of Puppets
And Justice For All

Great albums...

The Bee Gees!

My Top 10 in no particular order.
The music of these bands influenced my life in one way or another.

The Beatles
Crowded House
Foo Fighters
Radiohead
The Tea Party
Faith No More
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Queens of the Stone age
Something for Kate

and an honorable mention goes to ELO and Queen.

Somehow TOOL missed mention on my list.....

Somehow TOOL missed mention on my list.....
OMG!!! you're crazy! how could you forget Tool?

Bruce is definitely the best vocalist Maiden has had. I didn't think Paul was that bad though. He was a different sound but he wasn't horrible. Not so good live though.

Blaze was the worst IMO. After seeing a few tracks from X-Factor and Virtual XI, I almost had to rip my ears off. He's crap.

Wasn't he the vocalist on Number of the Beast and Powerslave?

Wasn't he the vocalist on Number of the Beast and Powerslave?Yes, them and most of Iron Maiden's other albums.

Wasn't he the vocalist on Number of the Beast and Powerslave?

Bruce has been the vocalist on every album save for Iron Maiden, Killers, X-Factor and Virtual XI.

Black sabbath,beatles,nirvana,red hot chilli peppers

beatles, killers, Eisley, Yeah Yeah Yeahs

WHAT ABOUT BOB DYLAN???? SIMON AND GARFUNKEL!!! JOAN BAEZ!!! JEFFERSON AIRPLANE!!! MOODY BLUES!!! THE WHO!!! DONOVAN (leitch)!!! PHISH!!!

Personally I would go with the cliché- the Beatles... but you gotta at least give these guys some credit!!!

WHAT ABOUT BOB DYLAN???? SIMON AND GARFUNKEL!!! JOAN BAEZ!!! JEFFERSON AIRPLANE!!! MOODY BLUES!!! THE WHO!!! DONOVAN (leitch)!!! PHISH!!!

Personally I would go with the cliché- the Beatles... but you gotta at least give these guys some credit!!!
read the thread!! Over half of those have been said! But it should be "most influencial" bands not "best"--that's way too subjective. Bob Dylan is added to my list. :)

WHAT ABOUT BOB DYLAN???? SIMON AND GARFUNKEL!!! JOAN BAEZ!!! JEFFERSON AIRPLANE!!! MOODY BLUES!!! THE WHO!!! DONOVAN (leitch)!!! PHISH!!!

Personally I would go with the cliché- the Beatles... but you gotta at least give these guys some credit!!!

Take it easy, muddle-head. Half of those aren't even bands.

Kraftwerk, anyone?

The Beatles were influential and whatnot, but they were simply innovating on a style that was already a decade old. And most of their innovations were applying to rock'n'roll/ pop music things that had been done before, ie. tape manipulation, synthesizers, orchestral arrangements, sitars, etc. Kraftwerk's style of electronic pop was completely unprecedented. Without Kraftwerk, there would be no Techno, Electro, House, Trance, Synth-Pop, Industrial, Hip-Hop, IDM, Glitch, etc.

(upon relfection) The Beatles' influence is more widespread, but Kraftwerk's influence is more radical, so it's arguable as to which was more influential.

Without Kraftwerk, there would be no Techno, Electro, House, Trance, Synth-Pop, Industrial, Hip-Hop, IDM, Glitch, etc.let's go back in time and prevent any Kraftwerk album to ever come out then

(upon relfection) The Beatles' influence is more widespread, but Kraftwerk's influence is more radical, so it's arguable as to which was more influential.


The Beatles are a household name.

Everyone knows who they are.

Nobody knows who the hell Kraftwerk are.

Case closed.

anyone with an education in 20th century music knows who Kraftwerk are. i dont believe the question was "greatest pop band of all time."

Bruce has been the vocalist on every album save for Iron Maiden, Killers, X-Factor and Virtual XI.

Good, because he's the one I like. Gotta love that range.