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It seems that some hyper-religious vermin have taken to splashing corrosive acid into the faces of Iraqi women who choose to dress "immodestly".

I hope these people are caught and made an example of. Although it probably won't happen, I think an appropriate punishment would be to give them a sex change with no anesthetic and force them to live the rest of their lives as women.

www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/8a93a9929db09e4e7c5580a543e7e779.htm

Holy crap...and people sometimes say I have a gizillion threads on the first page? Couldn't you just put all these 'Muslim/Iraq' threads together?

Yes, and Saddam was the worst thing that could happen to that country, huh?

Yes I have heard about these mullah vigilantes who have decided to appoint themselves as morality police with licence to use extreme force.

25 years.

Yes, and Saddam was the worst thing that could happen to that country, huh?
Yes. Believe it or not, the things that he did were worse than this.

But violence will be overcome in Iraq eventually.

This thing has been going on in Pakistan and Egypt for years. Where were you to denounce it?

Yes, and Saddam was the worst thing that could happen to that country, huh?

Yep, pretty much... aside from nuclear holocaust.

Not a new thing, but old. In fact, the probability is that it occured while Saddam was in power but no one thought it newsworthy.

It seems that some hyper-religious vermin have taken to splashing corrosive acid into the faces of Iraqi women who choose to dress "immodestly".

Well that'll learn 'em.

Well that'll learn 'em.
LOL!

But anyways, believe it or not, women were somewhat better off under Saddam's regime than in the conditions of Iraq now.

I hope these people are caught and made an example of. Although it probably won't happen, I think an appropriate punishment would be to give them a sex change with no anesthetic and force them to live the rest of their lives as women

We should do this to Saddam and Osama.

By the way, the acid in the face thing is a fairly standard punishment for women, and it's not just the Muslims doing it. Sikhs and Hindus seem to favour the procedure for all sorts of perceived 'crimes'.

And the situation of women in both Afghanistan and Iraq has worsened considerably because of the instability in those two nations. Not JUST because of the US interventions, but they are certainly becoming targets for violence and rape by the various factions vying for power. We can hope this situation will reverse itself...but right now, many women have said they would prefer to be living under the Taliban or Sadam...not because they LIKED those regimes, but the iron control of these groups at least made the violence predictible, and more avoidable. Right now, it seems random.

LOL!

But anyways, believe it or not, women were somewhat better off under Saddam's regime than in the conditions of Iraq now.

:D

Well, I wouldn't know. I didn't know much about Iraq before or now. There's some sort of war going on over there right now, isn't there?

By the way, the acid in the face thing is a fairly standard punishment for women, and it's not just the Muslims doing it. Sikhs and Hindus seem to favour the procedure for all sorts of perceived 'crimes'.

And the situation of women in both Afghanistan and Iraq has worsened considerably because of the instability in those two nations. Not JUST because of the US interventions, but they are certainly becoming targets for violence and rape by the various factions vying for power. We can hope this situation will reverse itself...but right now, many women have said they would prefer to be living under the Taliban or Sadam...not because they LIKED those regimes, but the iron control of these groups at least made the violence predictible, and more avoidable. Right now, it seems random.
Women in Iraq had more political freedoms under Saddam than under the new democratic government of the 'liberated' Iraq.

Women in Iraq had more political freedoms under Saddam than under the new democratic government of the 'liberated' Iraq.

so you would rather saddam still be in power?

We should do this to Saddam and Osama.
Osama, sure. It would serve him right. Saddam? I dunno. Maybe just hang him like they did to the Nazis at Nuremburg.

Women in Iraq had more political freedoms under Saddam than under the new democratic government of the 'liberated' Iraq.
Unless you were an enemy of the regime of course, but we'll not mention that.

By the way, the acid in the face thing is a fairly standard punishment for women, and it's not just the Muslims doing it. Sikhs and Hindus seem to favour the procedure for all sorts of perceived 'crimes'.

And the situation of women in both Afghanistan and Iraq has worsened considerably because of the instability in those two nations. Not JUST because of the US interventions, but they are certainly becoming targets for violence and rape by the various factions vying for power. We can hope this situation will reverse itself...but right now, many women have said they would prefer to be living under the Taliban or Sadam...not because they LIKED those regimes, but the iron control of these groups at least made the violence predictible, and more avoidable. Right now, it seems random.
Maybe in Iraq their situation has worsened, but in Afghanistan it's improved considerably. The taliban prevented women from getting an education or working, so a widow would be forced to beg or watch her family starve. The taliban prevented women from seeing a male doctor, and prevented women from working as doctors, so women would have no medical treatment available.

so you would rather saddam still be in power?

I would. He always seemed so happy.

Smiling and jolly.

Maybe in Iraq their situation has worsened, but in Afghanistan it's improved considerably. The taliban prevented women from getting an education or working, so a widow would be forced to beg or watch her family starve. The taliban prevented women from seeing a male doctor, and prevented women from working as doctors, so women would have no medical treatment available.
*cough*Pakistani Moulanas*cough*

I would. He always seemed so happy.

Smiling and jolly.
I love you :p

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I would. He always seemed so happy.

Smiling and jolly.


I love you
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that was sarcasm right?

that was sarcasm right?
I love him because he always makes me laugh. :D

I love you :p

Awwww :D

I just loved how jolly Saddam seemed to be. Those chubby cheeks and disarming smile. How could you *not* like the guy?

*cough*Pakistani Moulanas*cough*
What's a Pakistani Moulana? It sounds like some sort of pastry. Why are you coughing on it?

Awwww :D

I just loved how jolly Saddam seemed to be. Those chubby cheeks and disarming smile. How could you *not* like the guy?

okey. do i need to hand you a mop to get the sarcasm off the floor? :P

What's a Pakistani Moulana? It sounds like some sort of pastry. Why are you coughing on it?
I was trying to say Pakistani Moulanas but I have a sore throat so I started coughing.

okey. do i need to hand you a mop to get the sarcasm off the floor? :P

Maybe a sponge or a wetnap. Though I'm serious when I say he always looked jolly to me. Not so much recently.

What's a Pakistani Moulana? It sounds like some sort of pastry. Why are you coughing on it?

Ahahahahaha ... pastry.

Roshni still hasn't answered my question :p

Roshni still hasn't answered my question :p
And she coughed on my pastry. Damn muslims.

EDIT: Since the mods have threatened to permanently delete me if I commit any violations I'm forced to state the obvious. The above post isn't serious. I am not insulting any poster or his/her religion. It is meant as a lame ass joke. I am not flaming.

It seems that some hyper-religious vermin have taken to splashing corrosive acid into the faces of Iraqi women who choose to dress "immodestly".

Yikes that is scary and disgusting. :eek:

I wonder how indoctrinated people need to be with their brainless ideology to do something as abominable as that? :mad:

Not much. Apparently its very easy to indoctrinate gullible people into committing violence. Religion is usually a cheap way of going about doing it.

Yikes that is scary and disgusting. :eek:

I wonder how indoctrinated people need to be with their brainless ideology to do something as abominable as that? :mad:

There is a major irony in this...

It's been happening for years. Pakistan and Egypt do it, not to mention the sentence of Gang Rape some of these courts hand down. Wonder why the US isn't bothered 'bout them? Or indeed Drunk Commies?

And she coughed on my pastry. Damn muslims.

EDIT: Since the mods have threatened to permanently delete me if I commit any violations I'm forced to state the obvious. The above post isn't serious. I am not insulting any poster or his/her religion. It is meant as a lame ass joke. I am not flaming.

She's a her ... very, very her. ;)

She's a her ... very, very her. ;)
That part was probably aimed at anyone who might take offense, not her in particular, especially as she has demonstrated that she has a sense of humor.

Maybe in Iraq their situation has worsened, but in Afghanistan it's improved considerably. The taliban prevented women from getting an education or working, so a widow would be forced to beg or watch her family starve. The taliban prevented women from seeing a male doctor, and prevented women from working as doctors, so women would have no medical treatment available.
Not according to RAWA (http://www.rawa.org/kab-jan05/seminar_m.htm). Improved? In certain ways, yes...but again, due to instability and warlord infighting, women are still suffering under many of the same abuses as were rife during the Taliban regime. They are no longer state-sanctioned abuses...but that hasn't made them go away. So now, we can talk about a man beating his wife, forcing her to stay in the house, preventing her from working or seeing a doctor as 'domestic abuse' instead of human rights abuses? It is still, unfortunately, widespread, and many of the protections women had (from rape, kidnapping, trafficking) are now gone.

No one wants the Taliban back...but the picture is not as rosy as some would like to think it is.

There is a major irony in this...

It's been happening for years. Pakistan and Egypt do it, not to mention the sentence of Gang Rape some of these courts hand down. Wonder why the US isn't bothered 'bout them? Or indeed Drunk Commies?
I've been aware of acid attacks and rape as punishment in the backward parts of the world for quite some time. It just didn't happen in Iraq before. They were an island of relative secularism in a sea of religious assholery.

I've been aware of acid attacks and rape as punishment in the backward parts of the world for quite some time. It just didn't happen in Iraq before. They were an island of relative secularism in a sea of religious assholery.
Well...not for religious reasons anyway. One of Saddam's sons apparently favoured this as a coup de grace to his rape victims. :(

But yeah...I wouldn't want to be an Iraqi woman right now...all the shit flying around and these fanatics flooding the country...they're caught in the middle of it, and imagine the horror of turning from a dictatorship to a RELIGIOUS dictatorship...I only hope it is truly possible to prevent that from happening. Yikes, did I just endorse the US staying there?

I guess I did. I don't see another alternative right now.

Well...not for religious reasons anyway. One of Saddam's sons apparently favoured this as a coup de grace to his rape victims. :(

But yeah...I wouldn't want to be an Iraqi woman right now...all the shit flying around and these fanatics flooding the country...they're caught in the middle of it, and imagine the horror of turning from a dictatorship to a RELIGIOUS dictatorship...I only hope it is truly possible to prevent that from happening. Yikes, did I just endorse the US staying there?

I guess I did. I don't see another alternative right now.
Yeah, I remember one of them used to do that when girls put up too much of a struggle. I think it was Uday. Oh well, boys will be boys. :rolleyes:

And the situation of women in both Afghanistan and Iraq has worsened considerably because of the instability in those two nations.
Saddam, maybe, but The Taliban? They were just as bad as these guys. Maybe worse, since there were more of them and they were the government.

Women in Iraq had more political freedoms under Saddam than under the new democratic government of the 'liberated' Iraq.
No, they didn't. Where do you get this from?

Not according to RAWA (http://www.rawa.org/kab-jan05/seminar_m.htm). Improved? In certain ways, yes...but again, due to instability and warlord infighting, women are still suffering under many of the same abuses as were rife during the Taliban regime.
I blame America. Afghanistan needs more troops.

Yes. Believe it or not, the things that he did were worse than this.

But violence will be overcome in Iraq eventually.
Sadly there is no overcomngi militant religiousness. The "violence' might get better, but shit like what this topic is about won't

Saddam, maybe, but The Taliban? They were just as bad as these guys. Maybe worse, since there were more of them and they were the government.


Sorry...I'm not really clear on what you're saying :( Oh wait...that the Taliban were as bad as these people throwing acid in Iraqi women's faces?

Oh. Okay. Well, under the Taliban, women at least knew what was allowed and what was forbidden. Life was hell, but it had some predictability. Not so now. That's all I'm saying. Both situations were/are horrible.

Ihatevacations']Sadly there is no overcomngi militant religiousness. The "violence' might get better, but shit like what this topic is about won't
The only long-term way to get rid of religious fundamentalism is through secular education, separation of law and religion, and the implementation of socialism often seems to help.

The only long-term way to get rid of religious fundamentalism is through secular education, separation of law and religion, and the implementation of socialism often seems to help.
The USA is screwed then on at least one, pushing three counts eh?