NationStates Jolt Archive

A few threads are going around about public opinion on a few nations. I decided to make one on the UK.

too conservative. too anti-europe for some reason. anti-immigration.

other than that we make great fish & chips :)

too conservative. too anti-europe for some reason. anti-immigration.
I agree. I hear their social programs are fairly messed up too.

I think, politically they should re-consider their position towards the EU. Either be a full member or don't, just make up your mind, would be nice.

Other than that, I like the country, I like the people, I love the language, I adore the humour, I'm fascinated by the history.... :)

I like the UK, but I find that their standard of living is surprisingly poor for a Western nation. I like that they are anti-EU, because they're close to the opinion of the Swedish people like that.

Their cricketers are getting better & their range of beers is second to none.

I think they made a big mistake granting Canada independance.
Seriously, if they had played their cards right they would be back in possession of the US by now.
LARGE UNDEFENDED BOARDER, people. :rolleyes:

I agree. I hear their social programs are fairly messed up too.
they are. thats what 20 years of conservative underfunding does to social programmes. and people expect the labour government to just come in and fix it overnight & it just can't happen like that. and as with anything, its harder to build than destroy.
and it also doesn't help the tories privatised pretty much everything for short-term profits when their budgets didn't add up :rolleyes:

i mean you could argue there was a real need for reform of the social programmes in the 80s, but i say only because under tory rule unemployment levels rose to 11 million + (out of a real workforce of about 30 million), and the % rate was in double figures...


lets never go back to tory rule again! :mad:

We should be less pro-Bush (Not less pro-US, just less pro-GWB), 'cos he's a smirking eejet.

We should probably join the euro or the dollar too, so that we don't get ripped off all the time by importers upping prices in the knowlege that most people won't compare them to prices elsewhere in the western world.

funnily enough, my opinion of the UK is entirely cultural, whereas in the case of other countries it's mainly political. i'm aware of the brit government and various policies it has that i disagree with, but when i think of the UK i think first about bands i like and tv shows i watch. i have no idea why this is.

...i put mostly positive, btw.

I like the UK, but I find that their standard of living is surprisingly poor for a Western nation. I like that they are anti-EU, because they're close to the opinion of the Swedish people like that.

I'm surprised you think the standard of living is low compaired to western nations?
Why do you think that?
Is this compaired to the US whos rich poor divide can make it a developing country?
Or to the rest of Europe were the UK is ranked 8th after,
Luxembourg, Republic of Ireland, Denmark, Austria, Belguim, Finland, Netherlands.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union#Standard_of_living)

As you can see most of these countries are small so are more likely to come out high on standard of living tests.

I'm surprised you think the standard of living is low compaired to western nations?
Why do you think that?
Is this compaired to the US whos rich poor divide can make it a developing country?
Or to the rest of Europe were the UK is ranked 8th after,
Luxembourg, Republic of Ireland, Denmark, Austria, Belguim, Finland, Netherlands.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union#Standard_of_living)

As you can see most of these countries are small so are more likely to come out high on standard of living tests.
You automatically assume anybody that thinks the EU is bad or says anything negative about the UK is American?

Well we are anti-Eu, too conservative, anti-immigration, slightly xenophobic and possibly a bit arrogant

but

we're the only European country where you can get a decent cup of tea and Monty Python came from the UK so overall you have to forgive our faults :)

they are. thats what 20 years of conservative underfunding does to social programmes. and people expect the labour government to just come in and fix it overnight & it just can't happen like that. and as with anything, its harder to build than destroy.
and it also doesn't help the tories privatised pretty much everything for short-term profits when their budgets didn't add up :rolleyes:

i mean you could argue there was a real need for reform of the social programmes in the 80s, but i say only because under tory rule unemployment levels rose to 11 million + (out of a real workforce of about 30 million), and the % rate was in double figures...


lets never go back to tory rule again! :mad:
Ten years of Liberal underfunding is starting to take its toll hear in Canada. Whats surprises me is the Liberals did more cutting to social programs than the Conservatives did. The Conservatives also governed during the recession in the 80's. Now they want those programs cut to the bone, or dismantled.

...their range of beers is second to none.
Ohohoho!
Careful there!

I agree with most people here. Either in the EU, or out.
Not "take the benefits...and refuse the costs".

Well we got the Olympics so we rule now.... :D

Their cricketers are getting better & their range of beers is second to none.

Don't know too much about cricket, but I think concerning the range of beers, my home town alone could beat them ;)

Don't know too much about cricket, but I think concerning the range of beers, my home town alone could beat them ;)

Not in a range of Ales....in Pils and Lager yes...but not ale!!!

We have proper bear, you can say that about us.

We have proper bear, you can say that about us.
Groar!!!
:D

Not in a range of Ales....in Pils and Lager yes...but not ale!!!

Pils, Lager, Ungespundtes, Weizen, Maerzen, Bock, Doppelbock, Rauchbier, Helles, Dunkles, Keller, Hefe.... just to name a few. And my home town has ten different breweries, each with their own sortiments of the above types. And that's just the town itself, each village has at least one brewery as well.
No, you won't get Ale in Germany, and you won't get Stout either, but the variety is still immense.

I use to live in Leeds up in Yorkshire. It was an interesting departure from living in the States. I can tell you that they are alot alike to Americans and Canadians in alot of respects. But I think that the British conservatives have let the liberals take to much control there. I think if they need to balance out the two sides. The people though are great as to be expected. A few muppets running around. But that is to be expected.

I do voice impersonations very well and they would always want me to do the hillbilly bit at parties. Guess the stereotypical poor American was funny. Then I would remind them that most hillbillies had English names. Then I would get my laugh. Entertaining lot to say the least.

Went to all parts of the UK. Each area had its good things about it. Yes, even Wales. Also thought it strange that once you crossed into Scotland they had there own version of the pound. When in England the pound notes said "Bank of England". While in Scotland I notice "Bank of Scotland". Although I dont remember Wales having different money. Although we were drunk most of the time we were in Cardiff.

Another side note about the UK I noticed. It seemed that petty crime was rampant. Was suprised at this. Also the stupid tv tax stamp. Thats got to go.

Very positive. The UK is more or less the parent of the US, and we get a lot of our legal and political ideas from them. Plus, they are quite polite and have good food (unlike France, Mr. Chirac :p ), and interesting history dating back thousands of years. They have always been a close ally, despite our differences both in the past and today.

And lastly, they got the Olympics!

they are. thats what 20 years of conservative underfunding does to social programmes. and people expect the labour government to just come in and fix it overnight & it just can't happen like that. and as with anything, its harder to build than destroy.
and it also doesn't help the tories privatised pretty much everything for short-term profits when their budgets didn't add up :rolleyes:

i mean you could argue there was a real need for reform of the social programmes in the 80s, but i say only because under tory rule unemployment levels rose to 11 million + (out of a real workforce of about 30 million), and the % rate was in double figures...


lets never go back to tory rule again! :mad:

bah! no one has done more to ruin Britain than the socialists who have stolen its pride and identity.

bah! no one has done more to ruin Britain than the socialists who have stolen its pride and identity.
EYah sure, 3 million unemployed!!!!

Your fault. Notice the golden age of Britian in the 20th centuary(1945-1960) When we where very successful was under a labour goverment. Notice the darkest days (!980's) where under you.

I think they made a big mistake granting Canada independance.
Seriously, if they had played their cards right they would be back in possession of the US by now.
LARGE UNDEFENDED BOARDER, people. :rolleyes:

You think. ;)

bah! no one has done more to ruin Britain than the socialists who have stolen its pride and identity.

Damn right. Those socialists are the same ones systematically going through our history books, wiping out bits that do not appeal with their sense of paranoid political correctness. The Trafalgar celebrations were one such example.

Believe me, you have not seen the last of the British right. The Tories have been down before but they are never out.

EYah sure, 3 million unemployed!!!!

Your fault. Notice the golden age of Britian in the 20th centuary(1945-1960) When we where very successful was under a labour goverment. Notice the darkest days (!980's) where under you.

Funny how during the 1980s people kept voting Conservative.....

I like the UK, but I find that their standard of living is surprisingly poor for a Western nation. I like that they are anti-EU, because they're close to the opinion of the Swedish people like that.
Boo!

Damn right. Those socialists are the same ones systematically going through our history books, wiping out bits that do not appeal with their sense of paranoid political correctness. The Trafalgar celebrations were one such example.

Believe me, you have not seen the last of the British right. The Tories have been down before but they are never out.

Bloody good show! The Conservative party actually got 60,000 more votes in England than Labour during the last election but lost because of our electoral system. We are not a spent force. The political correctness is a disgrace and lets us all down.

Damn right. Those socialists are the same ones systematically going through our history books, wiping out bits that do not appeal with their sense of paranoid political correctness. The Trafalgar celebrations were one such example.

Believe me, you have not seen the last of the British right. The Tories have been down before but they are never out.
The fact is that PC is not socalisist liberal thinking, certainly not my sort of Liberalism.

I was as angry about the trfalger crap as you where, if you look in my posts you'll see that, however I also the hope the Torys never recover and the Lib Dems get in.

The Torys are a discrace, the last 4 or 5 goverments they've had are awful, they privatised the great british instution, Britiash rail, BA ect. And now look at it, it's taken a Labour goverment 8 years to even start to repair the damage, it's going to atke a long, long time.

We need a goverment like lloyd georges Liberals and Artillies Labour, not more Right Wing idiots. What was the last major reform that helped the country the Tories did, in fact did they ever do anything good?

The Torys are a discrace, the last 4 or 5 goverments they've had are awful, they privatised the great british instution, Britiash rail, BA ect.
That's exactly what right-wing governments do though. You can't have one without the other.
Unless you start your own right-wing party. Right in social issues, and with control over the economy.
And what is that called....?

Overall a great lot, and a much needed counter balance to the minions of sanctimonious Canadians giving the entire commonweath a bad name.

Boo!

Meh, suck it up!

That's exactly what right-wing governments do though. You can't have one without the other.
Unless you start your own right-wing party. Right in social issues, and with control over the economy.
And what is that called....?
Donno, It's your party.

Bloody good show! The Conservative party actually got 60,000 more votes in England than Labour during the last election but lost because of our electoral system. We are not a spent force. The political correctness is a disgrace and lets us all down.

Ahh but how much of that was earned by Iraq?

Damn right. Those socialists are the same ones systematically going through our history books, wiping out bits that do not appeal with their sense of paranoid political correctness. The Trafalgar celebrations were one such example.

Believe me, you have not seen the last of the British right. The Tories have been down before but they are never out.

New Labour's about as socialist as Ronald Regan. I don't think the tories will get in since we already have a centre-right party (Labour) and they don't really know where they stand.

Let's have P.R. so we can have some real socialists in :D

Ahh but how much of that was earned by Iraq?
Actually, despite the fact that I am against the Iraq War, the Conservative Party supported it. And so surely any protest votes would have gone to the Liberal Democrats who made their opposition clear. Those who did vote Conservative probably did so because they are tired of Labour misrule, where criminals have more rights than victims of crime, immigration is completely out of control, and political correctness steals away the little national pride we have. Of course, whenever we raise the arguments the Labour Party will remind you that we are intolerant bigots. ha ha ha

New Labour's about as socialist as Ronald Regan. I don't think the tories will get in since we already have a centre-right party (Labour) and they don't really know where they stand.

Let's have P.R. so we can have some real socialists in :D

You can when people will vote for them.

Donno, It's your party.
It's called Facism...

Bloody good show! The Conservative party actually got 60,000 more votes in England than Labour during the last election but lost because of our electoral system. We are not a spent force. The political correctness is a disgrace and lets us all down.
How much of that was Iraq? And how much of it was racist bastards taken in by your 'where thinking what your thinking' campagn, is it just me or is MH obsessed?

It's called Facism...
You mean the BNP.

You can when people will vote for them.

People won't since we don't have proportional representation, since it splits the anti-tory or anti-labour vote.

Aust]The fact is that PC is not socalisist liberal thinking, certainly not my sort of Liberalism.

The term "politically correct" was first used in Communist Party - USA circles back in the 1930s. It served as part of a disciplinary process intended to see that CP members stuck to the party line.

Actually, despite the fact that I am against the Iraq War, the Conservative Party supported it. And so surely any protest votes would have gone to the Liberal Democrats who made their opposition clear. Those who did vote Conservative probably did so because they are tired of Labour misrule, where criminals have more rights than victims of crime, immigration is completely out of control, and political correctness steals away the little national pride we have. Of course, whenever we raise the arguments the Labour Party will remind you that we are intolerant bigots. ha ha ha
Little national pride, despite thanks to labour we've just won the olympics.

I'm no more fond of LAbour than you, they've betrayed the core principles of the party with this 'new Labour' rubbish. If there where only 2 partys I would vote tory instead of Labour they've stayed true to there belifs.

As for thing about Immigration, have a look for my thread the thruth about immigration. I'm not writing my opinions down here.

Ahh but how much of that was earned by Iraq?
Why does that matter?

Why does that matter?

You have never heard of people making a statement with a vote?

How much of that was Iraq? And how much of it was racist bastards taken in by your 'where thinking what your thinking' campagn, is it just me or is MH obsessed?

Well Iraq was your own fault, and so you can't use that as an excuse. Arguing that im wrong because one of mistakes gave votes away to other parties is just silly really. And are you suggesting I'm a "racist bastard?" Because, as I see it, we never made any remotely racist comments, but simply made a logical point about the state of our border control. It seems fair enough that we should be in control of who comes into the country. This simply shows that people like YOU are so afraid that we have found one your numerous weaknesses that you have to engage in childish name-calling. If you really want to discredit our argument, why doesn't the Labour party tell us what plan it has that is so much better? Do you even have a plan at all?

Well we are anti-Eu, too conservative, anti-immigration, slightly xenophobic and possibly a bit arrogant

but

we're the only European country where you can get a decent cup of tea and Monty Python came from the UK so overall you have to forgive our faults :)

monty python rules

You have never heard of people making a statement with a vote?
But the reason behind a vote matters not, it is the number of votes that matters. Unless to ensure a Lab victory two faced Tony wants to bring in vote weighting. If you vote for another party and it is a vote against him rather than for the others it only counts as a half.
A vote is a vote is a vote. The fact remains that he won just over 30% of the votes and that was under 20% of the voting population!

You automatically assume anybody that thinks the EU is bad or says anything negative about the UK is American?

Actually no.
I didn't.
I am more used to Scottish and Welsh people saying bad things about the UK.
I was just making the point the UK has a high standard of living compaired to the rest of the world. I have no need to defend the UK, or the EU (not that I am sure I agree with either - it would sometimes be a lot easier if the UK would split, a large number of the Scots and Welsh would sure be happy).

I take insult that you assume, that I assumed, that someone was American; as you assumed that I was making an insult, whereas I was just stating a point/fact.

Well Iraq was your own fault, and so you can't use that as an excuse. Arguing that im wrong because one of mistakes gave votes away to other parties is just silly really. And are you suggesting I'm a "racist bastard?" Because, as I see it, we never made any remotely racist comments, but simply made a logical point about the state of our border control. It seems fair enough that we should be in control of who comes into the country. This simply shows that people like YOU are so afraid that we have found one your numerous weaknesses that you have to engage in childish name-calling. If you really want to discredit our argument, why doesn't the Labour party tell us what plan it has that is so much better? Do you even have a plan at all?
No, I'm saying your campagn, with it's focus on immigration appealed to the lowest common denominator.

And your also claiming I'm a Labour supporter, I do not support Labour and I was one of the 100,000 who marched against it. My plan for immigration is pritty simple, yes, too much causes problems, however if we don't have enough then we'll be facing a population crisis/pensions crisis. With our aging population it's not far around the corner, we need, (I think,) 5 workers to every 1 pensioner.

At the moment we have about 3:1. In short where at breaking point, and with the grey vote penisons will keep going up, in 20 years where in big trouble. We should let in those who can do a sueful job or who are asylum seekers, as is needed by our econermy.

I am more used to Scottish and Welsh people saying bad things about the UK.


Since we have a government that does not know of a world north of Watford.

Ohohoho!
Careful there!

I agree with most people here. Either in the EU, or out.
Not "take the benefits...and refuse the costs".


WTF? Britian stands for fairness and to be frank the EU budget is a joke. I am British I love my country, I am loyal to MY Queen, if the country calls I will answer. However it it messed up too. PCness needs to go, the nanny state is stupid; why don't we just tax less let the people have thier money and let them choose between private and public services. I do not agree with some of the Thatcher policies, however she has saved our arses whether you like it or not. Anyone who wants to say that the country has only had a good economy when labour has been in power needs to think about what was happening when labour came to power; right after a war and when the conservatives had corrected mistakes made by labour (and a fair few by themselves).

Thatcher did alot of bad things, but the Unions had to be broken and we had to move away from industrialization. Look at the world now: China and India are well on the way to being superpowers with massive industrial economies that would swamp ours in an instant. Thatcher did a very harsh and hard thing, but as someone once said "we never left the stone age by running out of stone"

Anyway thats leaving the point. Britian is a wonderful country with a great and varied history and a wonderful culture that can't be found anywhere else.....Oh and we have great weather ;)

Slightly negative. I absolutely love the history, and I absolutely love the humor. (Ok, the US is funny, but NOBODY competes with Monty Python and Blackadder.) On the other hand, the country has some serious problems right now. If we don't fix up the NHS and education system fast, we're going to lose most of our power and respect within two or three decades.

In addition, the public face is one of xenophobia and anti-immigration, BUT most polls actually suggest the majority of people are pro-immigration, they just don't believe it's being handled correctly. ("I'll fix the system" doesn't get votes. "Fucking foreigners" does.) Similarly, a lot of the working class has absolutely no desire for self-improvement, and are happy to be violent and mindless.

On the upside, we've produced some excellent authors, actors, and musicians, and when our culture isn't being the Tate Modern, it's usually actually pretty good. We've also got a damned awesome group of armed services and the only people who could tangle with us and walk away are the Americans, and it wouldn't be close to easy for them.

But I don't see much hope for the future. If we want to continue to be powerful, we can't do so by standing alone between China, the USA, and the EU. I'd say we pull out of the EU and join the USA, 'cause we're much closer to them (Also, the dollar is cooler than the euro and the US uses imperial measurements.) in cultural ways; the problem is nobody much wants to listen to joining either group, because we still have a 'Britannia rules the waves' mindset.

Slightly negative. We could be fixed up, but I doubt it's going to happen.

Since we have a government that does not know of a world north of Watford.

*hits the truth*

The government does know about the barbaric world north of Watford - but it chooses to ignore it a lot of the time.

However you must also take note that over 50% of the British population (using British as it means - the island) lives south of watford.
So the government should focus more on the south.
http://elt.britcoun.org.pl/s_fco.htm
Anyway Scotland does fine with all the subsides it gets from the English Government :p

yes you do don't you

Meh, suck it up!
ummm... boo! boo-urns!

The government does know about the barbaric world north of Watford - but it chooses to ignore it a lot of the time.


Congrats, some of your posts were quite entertaining but with that one single sentence you manage to make yourself appear to be... a bit of a twat.

Well done.

I love the Brits, mainly because they can pronounce words properly. I would have put "Very Positive" instead of "Slightly Positive" if not for the fact that I met two British pricks on Conker: Live and Reloaded yesterday, taking my % Cool meter for the British down to 80%. And they were retarded, to boot: one could not pronounce demolisher

Brits still rank higher than every other % Cool meter I have, for example the French are at 11% cool, and Canadians are at 6%... but that's only because I've met more Canadians.

As for the British government, I agree with most of the stances it takes on foreign policy issues, while on certain social issues it's a tad too liberal, but I don't live there so it's not my place to bitch or even care about that. The former of the two is the only thing that might ever affect me. Also, parliamentary debate is much too calm and orderly for my tastes... that was sarcasm, by the way.

Congrats, some of your posts were quite entertaining but with that one single sentence you manage to make yourself appear to be... a bit of a twat.

Well done.

Thank you, however I think you misunderstood what I was saying, the comment was a joke,
I currently live in Scotland, and have always lived North of Watford;
This is clear from at least a fair few of my other posts, albiet most were from a long time ago - however I think at least a couple of people will remember me here (I hope).
So before you start insulting people, go check your facts, and yes I probably will accept your apology if you offer.

I've never been in the UK, although I'd like to very much - I love to study the history of the United Kingdom. Fortunately, I'm going to Colchester in September, and I hope that the country won't disappoint me.

I like my country's history, but i hate what it's turning into, in terms of the culture of fear being created by chavs. I would like my country far more were it not for chavs. And the current government.

I've never been in the UK, although I'd like to very much - I love to study the history of the United Kingdom. Fortunately, I'm going to Colchester in September, and I hope that the country won't disappoint me.
oh god, you're going to be dissapointed. i live there. it's a dump. well, not a dump, but the youths are disgusting. actually, it is a dump too. seriously dirty in some areas.

oh god, you're going to be dissapointed. i live there. it's a dump. well, not a dump, but the youths are disgusting. actually, it is a dump too. seriously dirty in some areas.
As one of the 'youths' can i just suggest you change that to 'chavs are disgusting' please. The rest of us are okay. Coming from a skater/emo perspective.

oh god, you're going to be dissapointed. i live there. it's a dump. well, not a dump, but the youths are disgusting. actually, it is a dump too. seriously dirty in some areas.
Oh... may I TG you?

Wouldnt live anywhere else

I agree with most people here. Either in the EU, or out.
Not "take the benefits...and refuse the costs".

You must be thinking of a different UK. The UK is the second biggest net donor to the EU behind Germany.

If you're looking for countries that take more than they give to the EU budget then you need to look to Belgium, Luxembourg, Ireland, Greece, Portugal and Spain.

EU budget, givers and takers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/europe/04/money/html/who_pays_what.stm)

oh god, you're going to be dissapointed. i live there. it's a dump. well, not a dump, but the youths are disgusting. actually, it is a dump too. seriously dirty in some areas.

Maybe you should move out of Essex? Essex is the butt of most jokes about dumb, showy people.

I like my country's history, but i hate what it's turning into, in terms of the culture of fear being created by chavs. I would like my country far more were it not for chavs. And the current government.Both points agreed. I answered neutral on the poll, but it would have been 'slightly positive' but for those two things. I wouldn't say 'very positive' because, although I think there's a lot right with the place, every country has its problems. I don't think I'd say 'very positive' about very many places - sure, they might seem spectacular on holiday or on TV, but that's an idealised, unrealistic version of what they're really like.

I like Scotland and I love Wales, where I have been living for majority of the time for past 4 years. The Welsh are wonderful for the most part, and I could just as happily live here as France for the foreseeable future. I am indifferent to slightly negative in my views of England and the English, who can be quite hostile to the Welsh and French for my experience. I have not gone to Northern Ireland and know more people from the Republic than Northern Ireland before so I have no real opinion about them.

I like Scotland and I love Wales, where I have been living for majority of the time for past 4 years. The Welsh are wonderful for the most part, and I could just as happily live here as France for the foreseeable future. I am indifferent to slightly negative in my views of England and the English, who can be quite hostile to the Welsh and French for my experience. I have not gone to Northern Ireland and know more people from the Republic than Northern Ireland before so I have no real opinion about them.

Hostile? To be honest, I think the French are surly and rude, and think too highly of themselves.

I've never been in the UK, although I'd like to very much - I love to study the history of the United Kingdom. Fortunately, I'm going to Colchester in September, and I hope that the country won't disappoint me.

Just DON'T, whatever you do, be tempted to go to Basildon. Your eyes will turn towards the burberry caps - as will your stomach...

btw, look for the signs that point to the "Secret Nuclear Bunker" :p

A few threads are going around about public opinion on a few nations. I decided to make one on the UK.
I love Alba, think Cymru is great, N-Éire is in need of help from other European nations as America doesnt lift a finger and the British make things worse and England is okay but a litle boring and too...well too English.

Just DON'T, whatever you do, be tempted to go to Basildon. Your eyes will turn towards the burberry caps - as will your stomach...

btw, look for the signs that point to the "Secret Nuclear Bunker" :p
As a matter of fact I am going to take part in a meeting of scientists in Colchester, and then I'm going to spend a couple of days in London sightseeing. Colchester has a fine castle, and that's enough for me.

The Burberry caps... yeah, even Russians have heard about chavs. :)

I'm not from the U.K. and I'm not even European, but overall, I view the U.K. quite favorably.

Their cricketers are getting better & their range of beers is second to none.

ales, porters and stouts. yum.

I give the UK the lowest grade imaginable
an A minus..minus!

there's a bit more socialism than i'd like, but they've managed to stay right of neighbors like France, Germany and Sweden.

I love Alba, think Cymru is great, N-Éire is in need of help from other European nations as America doesnt lift a finger and the British make things worse and England is okay but a litle boring and too...well too English.
Alba...Ah, Pictland...

If we're going to be pedantic... ;)

N-Éire is in need of help from other European nations as America doesnt lift a fingerHuh? No offence, but where are you getting this information from? The place is hugely regenerated, with considerably less ghetto-esque areas (something that tended to prevail, especially in the city areas, until recently). This has been, certainly in part, due to European funding. Honestly, the place has never looked better. In fact, we've actually got quite a good tourist industry these days, something you would not have seen even 10 years ago. Also, America was quite involved in the drawing up and implementation of the Good Friday Agreement, so it's not entirely fair to say it does nothing to help.

I would also like to tack onto that, Tony Blair made it his mission to try and work out a solution in Northern Irland and we now have had a march through the city (by the orangemen?) which both sides agreed upon. Sense is being seen.

Going back to a point about England being hostile to the French and Welsh then you have to remember that we have a special relationship to both countries. When I go out with the lads we crack a few welsh jokes and have a good laugh, but they don't mean anything. we love the country and go there regularly. As for the french well to be frank we were at war with them for over a century and they did surrender to Nazi Germany leaving us without any allies in the war.

personally I think the only problem I have with them is they're a bit too preachy towards the united states given their history, but otherwise a nice group. After all they gave us Monty Python.

Slightly positive. Dragged down by the burbreh (say it out loud, it's a Brummie thing) wearers and Tony 'bloody lapdog' Blair.

I like Scotland and I love Wales, where I have been living for majority of the time for past 4 years. The Welsh are wonderful for the most part, and I could just as happily live here as France for the foreseeable future. I am indifferent to slightly negative in my views of England and the English, who can be quite hostile to the Welsh and French for my experience. I have not gone to Northern Ireland and know more people from the Republic than Northern Ireland before so I have no real opinion about them.

I did it the other way round (I'm originally from England); three years in wales then three years in scotland (and going). Welsh are good, however escpecially in the North, there is a fair amount of English hatred. I respect the welsh language and am pleased it is re-spreading, however I don't appreciate phrases like ''Twll Din Pop Saes!'' (and most other insults in Welsh are directed towards the English too).

Scotland, there is no such exsistance (or to the same extent) of English hatred. The true Scottish nationalists seem to hate the UK, but like the English (albiet as a completely seperate nation).

(Jees my writing/ grammar/ spelling is bad today).

Thank you, however I think you misunderstood what I was saying, the comment was a joke,
I currently live in Scotland, and have always lived North of Watford;
This is clear from at least a fair few of my other posts, albiet most were from a long time ago - however I think at least a couple of people will remember me here (I hope).
So before you start insulting people, go check your facts, and yes I probably will accept your apology if you offer.

*Must remember to engage brain before typing out insults*

Yep, my bad, I offer you my sincerest apologies.

*Must remember to engage brain before typing out insults*

Yep, my bad, I offer you my sincerest apologies.

Accepted

I did it the other way round (I'm originally from England); three years in wales then three years in scotland (and going). Welsh are good, however escpecially in the North, there is a fair amount of English hatred. I respect the welsh language and am pleased it is re-spreading, however I don't appreciate phrases like ''Twll Din Pop Saes!'' (and most other insults in Welsh are directed towards the English too).

Scotland, there is no such exsistance (or to the same extent) of English hatred. The true Scottish nationalists seem to hate the UK, but like the English (albiet as a completely seperate nation).

I think from what I can tell, the Welsh are more nationalistic than the Scots and slightly more bitter about the English. Some Welsh people would give me some grief, but the most of the nationalists have been pretty nice to me. I think partly because I made the effort to learn some Welsh, and the French in their mind are better than the English, helping them fight English and all.

In England, I often got "frog" or "sheep-shagger" comments depending, which the person rather focus on.

I did not have problems in Scotland, but I have only visited there so I don't have as much of feel of the land.