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First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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What do you have against Deists? They don't try to convert anyone, and they don't try to get theism taught in schools or with tax money. Many great men, like Thomas Jefferson, have been Deists.

Deists are people who beleive in God but aren't religious. Deists beleive God is like a clockmaker and that he created the universe to have its own laws and for the universe to guide itself, meanwhile God just watches but does not interfere. So the title of this shouldn't mention Deists cuz they don't seem to be involved in this topic.

I'm a sorta Deist anyway. I just think God set it all up, but to waste my life trying to communicate with him would be a waste. However, to me it seems illogical that the universe just sprang up randomly.

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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Man ... I am sooooooo glad you cleared that up. I see the light now! My life will be so much better and would be full of the things of daydreams and fabulous cash prizes(tm) thanks to this message.

No more must I be bound to the faith that sustains me! I can now cast off the shackles of this deep character flaw thanks to finally seeing a message such as this not only on the internet, but on the very forum I frequent!

Oh wait ... you said "Christian" ... I forgot ... the only way to be religious is if you're a Christian. Never mind.

They don't try to get theism taught in schools or with tax money.


That quote is a sign of ignorance

Oh, and Freud is discredited. His work was completely subjective and unscientific. From what I understand his work isn't used by modern psychiatrists.

Also, it's not really very polite to go around attacking other's beleifs unless they start it by trying to force you to observe their religion.

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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What does this have to do with deism?

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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One, do you know what trolling is?

That quote is a sign of ignorance
Name one Deist who tries to get his beleifs taught in public school or promoted with tax money. Just one. I dare you. In fact, it's Thomas Jefferson, a Deist, who came up with the idea of separation of church and state.

I assume you meant theists, to which I have but one response: Is refusing to denounce Christ while being grilled alive, crucified upside down, having your breasts cut off, etc. considered "weakness"? If so, I would be afraid to know what fortitude was :eek:

Reminds me of author/novellist Robert J. Sawyer, who's radically anti-religion.
He exposes his views in fiction novels "Hominids" and "Humans" (first book is quite good, second book -- don't bother).

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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Firstly, you should stop using Freud as a crutch - "Because Freud says" is just as bad as "Because God says".

Secondly, I find it highly conceited for ANYONE (you, Freud, or the Queen of the World) to feel they know enough to completely and ultimately discount some sort of higher consciousness.

There is no basis that could prove this, so you must be taking a gigantic leap of fath (gasp! faith! get it off!) to say that anything "cannot" be.

Firstly, you should stop using Freud as a crutch, first of all "Because Freud says" is just as bad as "Because God says".
Freud is God!

I assume you meant theists, to which I have but one response: Is refusing to denounce Christ while being grilled alive, crucified upside down, having your breasts cut off, etc. considered "weakness"? If so, I would be afraid to know what fortitude was :eek:
While I dont agree with the origional poster dying painfully for a belief hardly makes everyone of that belief as willfull or stuborn as the person that died for it

Aha! Now the Christians can strike back because he is trying to force his view down our throats! AHHH! STOP SHOVING ANTI-RELIGION DOWN OUR THROATS!!!1!

Freud is God!

;)

That's exactly my point!

I thik i should remind you, that citin gthings that freud says makes you look bad.
The words of a coke-fiend, sex addict hold no sway with me.

ALl this shoving one thing down another sthroat business is getting old. maybe when you learn that no idea or beleif is really worth arguing about...

Freud is God!
Freud prescribed cocaine for many of his patients, therefore god wants us to use cocaine. Let's all get high!

Man ... I am sooooooo glad you cleared that up. I see the light now! My life will be so much better and would be full of the things of daydreams and fabulous cash prizes(tm) thanks to this message.

No more must I be bound to the faith that sustains me! I can now cast off the shackles of this deep character flaw thanks to finally seeing a message such as this not only on the internet, but on the very forum I frequent!

Oh wait ... you said "Christian" ... I forgot ... the only way to be religious is if you're a Christian. Never mind.

Man, I'll rely on the wisdom of Freud before I'll listen to Jesus... Freud is Jesus' daddy. And science has everything figured out... lmao

lmao, right...

every knee shall bow

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. Some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death, or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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My comment: Not all religions have an afterlife. Not all religions have a male god. Not all religions are Christianity. The theists you target are a specific and small group.

Freud prescribed cocaine for many of his patients, therefore god wants us to use cocaine. Let's all get high!

now that is an intelligent comment, if ever i heard one!

:D

My comment: Not all religions have an afterlife. Not all religions have a male god. Not all religions are Christianity. The theists you target are a specific and small group.

neutral kiloliters (what else can "kl" stand for but kiloliters...?) is a choosy bigot who only discriminates against Christians. You are saved from his hatred.

I'm beginning to suspect that some 13 year old angst ridden middle school student just found out that freud said it.

And after all freud said it, so it must be true :P
It's pretty childish to reduce the whole human being to concentrate around a single organ.

neutral kiloliters (what else can "kl" stand for but kiloliters...?) is a choosy bigot who only discriminates against Christians. You are saved from his hatred.
Yay!
*does the dance of Just Me*

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

Good to know that you are no better than those you probably dislike - unable to even consider for a moment the fact that you could be wrong.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak.

Yes, and everything is about penises. Women want to have them instead of vaginas, men want them, men want to screw their mothers.

If we went by Freud, everyone would be declared psychotic.

They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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More of a question.

Do you enjoy being a bigot?

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is. some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death. or that they look to their god as a father figure. To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.

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Firstly, by equating Deisim with Theisim (of which Deisim is only a subset) you are only demonstrating your ignorance - a level that borders on Flame Baiting.

I am a Deist. I do not believe in the direct personal intervention of god in human affairs. I find Atheisim every bit as unconvincing in its explanations of Cosmology as I do any Religion's tomes.

Quite simply, it is easier for me to believe that somthing incomprehensible exists than to believe that nothing incomprehensible (i.e. ONLY the comprehensible) exists. I also believe that it is folly to try to say you comprehend the incomprehensible enough to be able to speak for it. Thus, my "god" cannot be a scapegoat (a judeo/christian religious term) for anything.

Since when did Freud get divine insight? Was this before or after he said "I can most highly recommend the Gestapo to everyone."?

First of all, I will start by saying that I am an atheist, and I am a firm believer that the even notion of god is too ridiculous for me to even fathom for a minute.
First of all, you are trolling, plain and simple. Your subject in itself is conflagarating, and you open your statement with an admitted personal belief and an attack on all theists.

According to Freud, Christianity is for the weak. They are people that can't "handle", basically, how hard life is.
Freud is also agreed to be highly untrustworthy a source to be cited for anything other than the belief that a psychologist should listen to his patient.

some different theories around the idea are that they are afraid of what is after death.
Surely these theories wouldn't be common speculation? Surely these theories are publicised somewhere? Without a doubt, you can give us the citation.

or that they look to their god as a father figure.
What does this have to do with deism? Deism in common parlance is, according to Wikipedia, "the classical belief that God created but does not intervene in the world." Even if you meant, as I assume you did, theism, what does a holy father figure have to do with character flaws?

To say that God is all knowing and all powerful is basically just a huge scapegoat.
True, perhaps, but deists don't look to God as someone who intervenes. This is again more relevant to theism. Furthermore, what is a character flaw? And is scapegoating necessarily a character flaw? After all, scapegoating is the American way...

Man, I'll rely on the wisdom of Freud before I'll listen to Jesus

Well Freud did say that sometimes a religion is just a religion.

It's pretty childish to reduce the whole human being to concentrate around a single organ.

I much prefer to reduce the whole human being to a single clavichord. But I suppose it's a matter of personal taste.

Looks to me like the originator of this thread has been trounced on every level.

of course, i wouldnt put it past them to go on thinking that they are, right and justified in thier ignorance.

From what I understand his work isn't used by modern psychiatrists.
Not true.

Not true.
Really? What do they still use? I was under the impression that all of his stuff was rejected as unscientific.

I am a Deist. I do not believe in the direct personal intervention of god in human affairs. I find Atheisim every bit as unconvincing in its explanations of Cosmology as I do any Religion's tomes.

Atheism is not a belief that god does not exist, it is the lack of a religious belief. Thus atheism is not trying to explain Cosmology.

Really? What do they still use? I was under the impression that all of his stuff was rejected as unscientific.

At the risk of sounding like a troll, I feel that the overwhelming majority of psychology is unscientific. As I undertand it, the APA bans nearly all controlled experimentation. To further one's research, one must draw on case studies and whatnot. One cannot control the environment of one's subjects when working solely with case studies.

Yeah, psychology is mostly unscientific. Anyone who relies soley on experimentation rather then dealing with patients on a personal level isn't getting anywhere.

Looks to me like the originator of this thread has been trounced on every level.
... and since his only two posts consist of a troll and a flamebait, iLock.

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