NationStates Jolt Archive


Cannibalism or "...mmmm, soylent green!"

New Fubaria
05-07-2005, 04:55
Would you ever consider eating human flesh?
Lumberjack Arsonists
05-07-2005, 05:04
Only if I had some tomato sauce and a healthy supply of pepper and basil. And if my wild ostrich had stranded me in the Alps and a dead body just happens to be beside me.
Sick Dreams
05-07-2005, 05:09
I wouldn't kill someone for it, but if someone had some fried up already................. Don't look at me like that, it might be good!
The Mindset
05-07-2005, 05:12
If I'm ever a rich billionaire, on my deathbed I'm going to request my henchmen go murder some street urchin and cook them in a nice ginger, cider and orange marinade.
Zatarack
05-07-2005, 05:13
Only in the form of soylent green.
Neo Rogolia
05-07-2005, 05:28
I wonder what people taste like :eek:
Sino
05-07-2005, 05:43
How dare you call the flesh of humans 'meat'!

What the hell is 'soylent green'?
Sino
05-07-2005, 05:44
Looks like some of you bastards here need high velocity lead therapy!

:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
Zatarack
05-07-2005, 05:44
How dare you call the flesh of humans 'meat'!

What the hell is 'soylent green'?

"Soylent green is made of people!"
Gauthier
05-07-2005, 05:46
Doesn't cannibalism result in protein diseases like Mad Cow?
Gauthier
05-07-2005, 05:48
How dare you call the flesh of humans 'meat'!

What the hell is 'soylent green'?

Soylent Green was a film with Charleton Heston about a future where world hunger was at a crisis until a new miracle food source called Soylent Green (of course) was developed. Heston then later finds out the dirty secret of Soylent Green.
Andaluciae
05-07-2005, 05:50
"Soylent Green is made of...ooooooh! Soylent Cake looks really good!"
New Fubaria
05-07-2005, 05:56
How dare you call the flesh of humans 'meat'!

What the hell is 'soylent green'?

Looks like some of you bastards here need high velocity lead therapy!

:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:
Hey, settle down there bud - it's a hypothetical discussion.

Besides, what would you call the flesh of humans besides meat?

meat Pronunciation Key (mt)
n.

1. The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
2. The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.
3. The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial.
4. Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat.
5. Nourishment; food: “Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink” (Edna St. Vincent Millay).
6. Vulgar Slang.
- 1. The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
- 2. The genitals.
The Lightning Star
05-07-2005, 06:05
"Oh no! Soylent Green is..."

Just then, Thorn is picked up in a "scoop" truck and sent far, far away.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
05-07-2005, 06:10
Besides, what would you call the flesh of humans besides meat?
I'd call it flesh, because those are two different words, but then, I'm also an asshole who has wasted far too much of his life studying English. So, yeah.

Anyway, I'd only eat someone if they were already dead, prepared, and I was in danger of starving (oh, and no nerve tissue, but that is just general food policy). So yeah, hand over a bit of ye olde "Soylent Green".

And, yes, this does mean that I would only turn to cannibalism if I were two trip over a nice leg steak while wandering a desolate wilderness.
Sino
05-07-2005, 06:10
Hey, settle down there bud - it's a hypothetical discussion.

Besides, what would you call the flesh of humans besides meat?

Something as serious as this should not be joked about! There's already two cases in the past year of cannibalism in the West and you think your culture's leading the way? When people start thinking or fantisizing about these things culture will collapse!
[NS]Marric
05-07-2005, 06:11
MMMMmmmmm Long pork :)
The Lightning Star
05-07-2005, 06:15
Something as serious as this should not be joked about! There's already two cases in the past year of cannibalism in the West and you think your culture's leading the way? When people start thinking or fantisizing about these things culture will collapse!

Dont make me call the riot scoopers on you...
CthulhuFhtagn
05-07-2005, 06:27
Doesn't cannibalism result in protein diseases like Mad Cow?
Only if the brain is consumed. And only if the brain being consumed was contaminated with the misfolded kuru proteins.
The Mindset
05-07-2005, 06:35
Something as serious as this should not be joked about! There's already two cases in the past year of cannibalism in the West and you think your culture's leading the way? When people start thinking or fantisizing about these things culture will collapse!
I'm honestly confused as to whether this is some kind of humour or if you're being serious. Either way, I think you're being melodramatic and well, wrong. Has joking about chickens crossing the road brought an unholy chicken apocalypse? No? Then joking about cannabalism isn't going to cause "culture to collapse." Seriously.

This argument is almost as dumb as the "homosexual marriage will cause all our children to turn gay!" one.
New Fubaria
05-07-2005, 06:36
Something as serious as this should not be joked about! There's already two cases in the past year of cannibalism in the West and you think your culture's leading the way? When people start thinking or fantisizing about these things culture will collapse!
It's not a joke - it's a discussion, and a poll. I'm not advocating cannibalism or murder, just discussing it. You are entitled to your opinion, of course...
Sino
05-07-2005, 06:42
Dont make me call the riot scoopers on you...

Riot scoopers?

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/individual/type91_grenade35_4.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Chinese_insurgency_1989.gif
-Everyknowledge-
05-07-2005, 06:53
Would I try cannibalism? Sure, I eat other meats. It'd be pretty hypocritical for me not to give it a try when offered.
Non Aligned States
05-07-2005, 07:14
Riot scoopers?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Chinese_insurgency_1989.gif

Was this the Tianamen square? The basic design of the tanks looks like it was either Russian or of Russian influence.
Crymeer
05-07-2005, 07:20
Cannibals say humans taste like chicken, so babies must taste like chicken.
Undelia
05-07-2005, 07:21
As a vegetarian, I have decided that I would eat meat if my life depended on it. Would I eat a human if my life depended on it? I don’t know. But I am positive that the person would have to be dead first. I wouldn’t kill someone and eat them.
New Fubaria
05-07-2005, 07:36
Was this the Tianamen square? The basic design of the tanks looks like it was either Russian or of Russian influence.
Is it a T-64 (or licensed knockoff)?
Sino
05-07-2005, 08:09
Was this the Tianamen square? The basic design of the tanks looks like it was either Russian or of Russian influence.

That was a picture taken from U.S. sources citing the violent behaviour of the protestors. This proves that the demonstrators are nowhere near as innocent as they claimed as they sought support from ex-cons (always wanting to take revenge on the government).

The tanks used to put down the protest were Type 80/88s:

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type88.asp

They were almost factory new when they rolled out to meet the protestors. Please do not mistake the retained basic T-55 as a piece of Russian import, the technology of that tank could easily match many Western designs including U.S. M60, British Chieftain, French AMX-30, German Leopard 1, and Japanese Type 74. It has retained the basic early Russian rounded turret, but the weapon systems were based on NATO designs.

The 105mm rifled main gun could fire all types of NATO ammo. A 125mm variant was experimented and resulted in a Type 88-c/96 MBT beyond the capabilities of the Russian T-72:

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type96.asp

Along with it's weaker Type 80/88 cousins, the Type 96 is also classed as a second generation Chinese tank. A new turret had to be fitted for the 125mm smoothbore (ATGM capable).

The Type 88 has served as the inspiration for the Battlemaster tank from the game C&C: Generals:

http://images.ea.com/eagames/official/cc_generals_redesign/sides_china/units/battlemastertank.gif
Sino
05-07-2005, 08:10
Is it a T-64 (or licensed knockoff)?

No. It's a Type 88.
Greater Valia
05-07-2005, 13:21
Riot scoopers?

http://www.sinonce.com/army/individual/type91_grenade35_4.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/Chinese_insurgency_19.gif

SOMEONE HASNT SEEN SOYLENT GREEN!

Ok, but eating people can lead to very serious health concerns... And this is all besides the point... why would you want to eat another person? Its just wrong and gross. You people make me sick.
Non Aligned States
05-07-2005, 13:31
They were almost factory new when they rolled out to meet the protestors. Please do not mistake the retained basic T-55 as a piece of Russian import, the technology of that tank could easily match many Western designs including U.S. M60, British Chieftain, French AMX-30, German Leopard 1, and Japanese Type 74. It has retained the basic early Russian rounded turret, but the weapon systems were based on NATO designs.

Ah. You see, the rounded turret design is very prominent upon most Russian designed MBTs. That is why I asked if it was of Russian influence.

But specifications wise, it does seem to be an equal match to the NATO MBTs of the time.
New Fubaria
05-07-2005, 14:16
No. It's a Type 88.
Thanks :)
New Sans
05-07-2005, 14:42
Only if presented with a situation from Alive/Cannible the Musical....of course I'd have to have lost my spdoinkle by then.
Yupaenu
05-07-2005, 18:04
I wouldn't kill someone for it, but if someone had some fried up already................. Don't look at me like that, it might be good!
it probably could be(i'm serious, i can't tell if your joking). besides, graves take up too much space.
Sino
05-07-2005, 23:44
Ah. You see, the rounded turret design is very prominent upon most Russian designed MBTs. That is why I asked if it was of Russian influence.

But specifications wise, it does seem to be an equal match to the NATO MBTs of the time.

The 'Westernization' of the Chinese military has made the latest Type 98G MBT look German (the turret resembles the Leopard II, while the chassis looks like that of a T-80).

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type98_7lg.jpg
Santa Barbara
05-07-2005, 23:51
I would eat human meat if it were safe. Human meat carries, naturally, more human-communicable diseases or parasites which would require more care in preparation than with other mammal meats. So, yes, as long as it wouldn't come with some Hookworm or something, I'd eat it. Why not? I hate picky eaters.
The Downmarching Void
05-07-2005, 23:59
I too curious not try it if it was offered, but the circumstances would have to be very well controlled. I'd have to know it came from someone who honestly wanted to be eaten after being euthanised (meat from animals that died of natural causes/old age tastes AWFUL) and free of any nasty diseases. These two conditions mean its only ever going to be a hypothetical question for me anway. If starving to death and absolutely necessary for me to eat it, especially if my survival helped the survival of a larger group, I'd have almost no hesitation in eating human flesh.


I bet Sino would taste good as a stir fry....but you'd have to marinade him for at least 48 hours, as his flesh would be tough and chewy.

J/K dude. lighten up or light up, please.
Kecibukia
06-07-2005, 00:04
There's a great book called "Contingency Cannibalism" that has lots of "tongue in cheek" humour.

Hell, if I were hungry enough, long pig goes down just as easily.
Nateba
06-07-2005, 00:07
I would prefer starvation, due to the fact the human flesh supposedly tastes like pork. Seeing as I abhor pork, I don't think I could do the cannibalism thing.
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:12
It would take a great deal of abandonment of morals and taboos to commit human cannibalism.


Hey! I thought we're discussing tanks here.
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:14
I bet Sino would taste good as a stir fry....but you'd have to marinade him for at least 48 hours, as his flesh would be tough and chewy.

I'd be too camoufalged for you to spot me. Besides, my rifle will always come in handy.
The Downmarching Void
06-07-2005, 00:16
I'd be too camoufalged for you to spot me. Besides, my rifle will always come in handy.

Theres always thermo-sensitive/ heat-vision systems. I'm sure your camoflage would add to the yummy flavours. The rifle would be pretty tough to cook though. ;)
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:18
The reason why I find this too disturbing to be talked about is because many warlords encourage their troops to commit cannibalism on innocent civilians as a scare tactic in the DRC (Democratic Republic of Congo).

During WWII, the Japanese actively conduct cannibalistic hunts on Chinese civilians and soldiers both for revenge and to satisfy their own food shortages. They had also conducted cannibalism on their fallen comrades as a mark of respect (this practice was known to date back to ancient Japan). It is said that the WWII Japanese military's field manual state clearly that cannibalism on civilians was honorable.
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:20
Theres always thermo-sensitive/ heat-vision systems. I'm sure your camoflage would add to the yummy flavours. The rifle would be pretty tough to cook though. ;)

I'd be on the move, with anti-thermo BDUs. It'll be a matter time before I find you, shoot you, bayonet you for enjoyment then cut your f*cking head off and use it as a bucket to paint my wall with your brains!
Zombie States
06-07-2005, 00:21
The Empire of Zombie states supports compulsory cannibalism.
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:24
The Empire of Zombie states supports compulsory cannibalism.

The RP forums are down the road from here, kid.
Kecibukia
06-07-2005, 00:28
I'd be on the move, with anti-thermo BDUs. It'll be a matter time before I find you, shoot you, bayonet you for enjoyment then cut your f*cking head off and use it as a bucket to paint my wall with your brains!

And yet you'ld waste the best part. For shame.
Non Aligned States
06-07-2005, 00:28
The 'Westernization' of the Chinese military has made the latest Type 98G MBT look German (the turret resembles the Leopard II, while the chassis looks like that of a T-80).


Hmmmm, from that angle, it is difficult to say regarding the chassis. For a moment, I thought it was a Merkava type chassis. But overall, I wonder which armor scheme design would provide better protection. The flattened hemisphere or the angled turret design?
Corleigh
06-07-2005, 00:29
Believe it or not, I had the "cannibalism" discussion with my close friends and they've all been informed: we find ourselves in a life or death situation, the first one to die ( of natural or accidental causes, NOT foul-play) gets eaten. If I'm the first to go, so be it. I see no reason to starve when food is at hand, and if I'm dead what the hell do I need my body for? Bon appetite
Dadave
06-07-2005, 00:37
Believe it or not, I had the "cannibalism" discussion with my close friends and they've all been informed: we find ourselves in a life or death situation, the first one to die ( of natural or accidental causes, NOT foul-play) gets eaten. If I'm the first to go, so be it. I see no reason to starve when food is at hand, and if I'm dead what the hell do I need my body for? Bon appetite

if i was starvin and they were freshly dead...sure i would eat a human...

just a curious aside...i wonder what the best part would be to eat and how to cook it.
i am a freak about having any meat i eat fully cooked(well done)so i guess i would have to boil and then barbeque whomever.

i would think fatty parts would be best in a survival situation,but i am not a nutritionist.

whole nother debate...which would be more beneficial to eat in a survival sit....a male or a female,i know females have higher fat content then men in general...

lastly....ewwwwwwwwww :D
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:48
Hmmmm, from that angle, it is difficult to say regarding the chassis. For a moment, I thought it was a Merkava type chassis. But overall, I wonder which armor scheme design would provide better protection. The flattened hemisphere or the angled turret design?

Rounded design date back to WWII with the Shermans. They've always thought that non-explosive projectiles would at least bounce off round surfaces, but with the introduction of explosive projectiles and APDS, these designs have their advantages broken. With the introduction of ERAs, rounded turrets prove to be a pain for them to be fitted adequately. Round turrets also reduce space for the crew to operate and ammo to be stored.

The photograph below illustrates how turret ERA prove to be rather impractical when applied on a Type 59D (T-55 copy retrofitted with ERA and 105mm smoothbore as well as 1990s electronics):

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/tank/type59_2.jpg

Angled turrets (having flat surfaces) allow ERAs to be fitted more easily. The Russian T-90 is a special case where an angled turret also allows for a lower profile. It has long been proven that being hit on an angle can reduce damage by up to 25%, the angled turrets work according to this idea. We can conclude that rounded turrets is a design of the past.

Here's a clearer picture of the Type 98's chassis:

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/transport/hy473_1.jpg

You decide.

Oddly enough, the driver sits in the center and his hatch is just below main gun. The same basic Russian idea of having external fuel tanks in the rear is still present. I honestly hate Russian chassis for the lack of power and poor survivibility.
Sino
06-07-2005, 00:53
And yet you'ld waste the best part. For shame.

I wouldn't do that if I were you. A Papuan chief was recorded to have contracted some strange disease after eating the brains of his enemies. He could never control his laughter for the rest of his life.
Sino
06-07-2005, 01:02
If anyone's up for a discussion on the 'oddities' in the Chinese army, I'm free for most of today. I haven't had a good discussion of that sort for months!
Kiwi-kiwi
06-07-2005, 01:08
I think this thread deserves a Futurama quote:

Fry: Maybe the secret ingredient is people!
Leela: We already have that, it's called Soylent Cola.
Fry: Oh. How's it taste?
Leela: Varies from person to person.

And I might eat a person if my life depended on it. But I don't suppose humans would make very good eating. We're mostly fat, bone and gristle anyway... And I don't think I could kill someone as food, unless perhaps I went mad with hunger.
The Downmarching Void
06-07-2005, 01:12
I'd be on the move, with anti-thermo BDUs. It'll be a matter time before I find you, shoot you, bayonet you for enjoyment then cut your f*cking head off and use it as a bucket to paint my wall with your brains!

As an artist, I must aprrove of the form of desecration you plan for my corpse. However, as a mental patient, my amazing mental powers would stop your your fluttering heart from beating while you grovelled in awe before my vast ego. :p
Sino
06-07-2005, 01:28
As an artist, I must aprrove of the form of desecration you plan for my corpse. However, as a mental patient, my amazing mental powers would stop your your fluttering heart from beating while you grovelled in awe before my vast ego. :p

Mental powers, my ass! If shock therapy ain't working, I suggest you try high velocity lead therapy.
Ekland
06-07-2005, 01:36
You know, cockroaches wash themselves after contact with humans, sharks will spit out humans practically out of contempt after biting one out of confusion or curiosity, our meat is practically saturated with vile chemicals duo to our very strange, and commonly abusive diet patterns. We are probably worse then sewer rats.

So ya, I think a good resounding noooooo is in order here. :D
New Fubaria
06-07-2005, 04:15
It would take a great deal of abandonment of morals and taboos to commit human cannibalism.


Hey! I thought we're discussing tanks here.
It depends on your culture - there are several world cultures where cannibalism is not considered morally wrong. Some eat the bodies of slain enemies - others eat the flesh of deceased loved ones as a rite of mourning...
New Fubaria
06-07-2005, 04:19
if i was starvin and they were freshly dead...sure i would eat a human...

just a curious aside...i wonder what the best part would be to eat and how to cook it.
I believe that "steaks" cut from the meaty part of the calves and thighs are the preferred cut...

...as for well cooked meat, you don't know what you're missing out on. A nice, juicy medium rare steak is awesome (err - regular steak I'm talking about, not people steak) :p
The Downmarching Void
06-07-2005, 04:31
Mental powers, my ass! If shock therapy ain't working, I suggest you try high velocity lead therapy.

Your just jealous.

So your Mental Powers come from your ass, its no reason to get so violent. Though it would explain your fascination with fascist imagery. I hear anal bypass surgery is now possible. You should sign up, then your mental powers wouldn't stink so much. I'd still be able to squash you like a bug

*goes into "I crush your head." skit from Kids In The Hall*
Sino
06-07-2005, 06:18
It depends on your culture - there are several world cultures where cannibalism is not considered morally wrong. Some eat the bodies of slain enemies - others eat the flesh of deceased loved ones as a rite of mourning...

That may be culture but it's not exactly civilized.
Non Aligned States
06-07-2005, 09:01
Oddly enough, the driver sits in the center and his hatch is just below main gun. The same basic Russian idea of having external fuel tanks in the rear is still present. I honestly hate Russian chassis for the lack of power and poor survivibility.

Isn't it the case with the M1 series of tanks as well where the driver is in the center?

As for lack of power, you mean poor engine design?

Poor survivability was based on the Russian mentality of numerical superiority back then. If it breaks down, so what? It can be replaced.
Tannenmille
06-07-2005, 09:50
Cannibals say humans taste like chicken, so babies must taste like chicken.

Good, I'm glad you're coming with me on that.

Look at me, I'm 'Crazy' Eddie! (ooheeohh--WUMP) I put babies on spikes (ooheeohh--WUMP) You want a rack of babies? (WUMP) We've got babies on racks. (WUMP) Mm, they.. taste of chicken!
Garsec
06-07-2005, 10:05
I'd be on the move, with anti-thermo BDUs. It'll be a matter time before I find you, shoot you, bayonet you for enjoyment then cut your f*cking head off and use it as a bucket to paint my wall with your brains!

So painting walls with brains is fine, but god forbid, cannibalism can't even be discussed?
The Pictish Kings
06-07-2005, 10:27
Looks like some of you bastards here need high velocity lead therapy!

:sniper: :mp5: :sniper: :mp5:

You are having a go at people that will eat human meat only if it is already dead and it is the only way to servive. while you keep on going on about killing people. WHO IS WORSE?
That would be me. for after u kill everyone i will kill you then eat you all.
;)
The Winter Alliance
06-07-2005, 10:35
So painting walls with brains is fine, but god forbid, cannibalism can't even be discussed?

At Dartmouth college, across the river in NH, some MBA collaberated with a Dutch company to produce tofu which he claims tastes like human flesh. (Source: Valley News 7/3/2005)

He went on to say that 'Hufu' was not comparison-tested with actual human flesh to determine it's synthetic quality.

I don't really like tofu that much anyway. I'm gonna skip this one.
Sino
07-07-2005, 02:07
So painting walls with brains is fine, but god forbid, cannibalism can't even be discussed?

That was meant to be a joke, lighten up. You think I'd waste time painting my walls with anything but paint?
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:17
Would you ever consider eating human flesh?

Sure, in a situation where it was the only food around I'd eat it.

Other than that I would prefer not to, since apart from the ickiness of the idea it puts you at risk of prion diseases (like mad cow).

I can't see anything morally wrong with it though, provided you aren't killing people to eat them. If someone wants their corpse to be eaten when they die and their family want to eat them, then whatever floats your boat...
Texpunditistan
07-07-2005, 02:26
Do hangnails count?

Someone....else's....hang...nails... http://www.dasmusik.net/forums/images/smilies/look.gif
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:28
I wouldn't do that if I were you. A Papuan chief was recorded to have contracted some strange disease after eating the brains of his enemies. He could never control his laughter for the rest of his life.

Lots of people there got it (damn, I can't remember what the disease is called, other than that it's a prion disease). It basically turns your brain into a sponge, so you gradually lose your basic motor functions and eventually die.

We can't kill it, because it isn't alive. It's not a bacteria or a virus, it's just a pattern of cells- once your cells come into contact with it they copy the pattern.


Scary stuff, no?
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:30
Something as serious as this should not be joked about! There's already two cases in the past year of cannibalism in the West and you think your culture's leading the way? When people start thinking or fantisizing about these things culture will collapse!

It's nothing new. Every civilisation on Earth is built on human bones.
Sino
07-07-2005, 02:30
Isn't it the case with the M1 series of tanks as well where the driver is in the center?

As for lack of power, you mean poor engine design?

Poor survivability was based on the Russian mentality of numerical superiority back then. If it breaks down, so what? It can be replaced.

Western MBTs generally have a powerplant of 1500hp, while Russian designs range from as low as 760hp (T-72) to 1250hp in their more recent designs. With the addons of ERA, it is likely that they will be even slower. Overall, despite being heavier, Western MBTs still dominate in speed and crew protection. The T-90 was the first Russian MBT to be designed with crew protection in serious consideration (probably because there are less cannon fodders avaialbe after the collapse).

The Russian-based weapon system is superior to any Western tank as the 125mm is not only slightly larger but also ATGM capable (not amongst T-72s generally), they also incorporate an autoloader, reducing the crew numbers from 4 to 3. Speaking of ATGMs, to further the effectiveness of their tanks, the Chinese are actively conducting developments into gun-fired ATGMs (even 100~105mm versions):

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/antitank/gunmissile.asp

I suppose the driver being positioned in the center for the Type 98 is based on the M1. Afterall, it's project focus has shifted to matching the M1. Neither the Type 96 or Type 98 chose a rounded turret like the T-72.

The major innovation present on the Type 98 is it's unique JD-3 LSDW, which employs a high-powered laser to attack hostile ATGMs and gunner's optics/eyesight. This system is also useful for communications between friendly tanks fitted with the system, given that laser communications are more secure against ECM.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:31
Only if the brain is consumed. And only if the brain being consumed was contaminated with the misfolded kuru proteins.

Kuru! Thanks!
I hadn't read through the rest of the thread yet.
Sino
07-07-2005, 02:31
Lots of people there got it (damn, I can't remember what the disease is called, other than that it's a prion disease). It basically turns your brain into a sponge, so you gradually lose your basic motor functions and eventually die.

We can't kill it, because it isn't alive. It's not a bacteria or a virus, it's just a pattern of cells- once your cells come into contact with it they copy the pattern.


Scary stuff, no?

I thought that man was the only case. Considering that a recent British cannibal butter fried his victim's brain and the same disease did not strike him.
The Winter Alliance
07-07-2005, 02:37
I thought that man was the only case. Considering that a recent British cannibal butter fried his victim's brain and the same disease did not strike him.

I think the prion disease you are all referring to is called Kreutzfeld-Jacobsen's (spelling?) disease. It has received notoriety of late because Mad Cow diseased beef can spontaneously cause the K-J disease (syndrome?) in people.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:40
I thought that man was the only case. Considering that a recent British cannibal butter fried his victim's brain and the same disease did not strike him.

Nah, I read a book about it a while back (sorry, can't remember what it was called, I could check...) and a whole village was struck down with the disease.

Of course you don't get the disease from eating just any brain, only the brain of someone who had it.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:42
That may be culture but it's not exactly civilized.

How is that less civilised than burning or burying your dead? As long as it gets rid of the bodies in a way everyone present is happy with, where's the problem?
Sino
07-07-2005, 02:46
Is eating the corpse of a loved one considered respectful in any civilized culture?
Sino
07-07-2005, 02:47
C'mon! Who's going to keep up the tank talk here?
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 02:47
Is eating the corpse of a loved one considered respectful in any civilized culture?

Define 'civilised'.

If it is done respectfully, I would consider it respectful.
Warrigal
07-07-2005, 03:06
Eat people? Are you crazy?? Human flesh isn't fit for human consumption, per FDA regulations, due to DDT content!

Also note that recently, prions (the cause of diseases such as mad cow) have been discovered in significant quantities in tissues other than the brain, in infected animals... I believe the liver was one site of relatively high concentration.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 03:12
Eat people? Are you crazy?? Human flesh isn't fit for human consumption, per FDA regulations, due to DDT content!

Also note that recently, prions (the cause of diseases such as mad cow) have been discovered in significant quantities in tissues other than the brain, in infected animals... I believe the liver was one site of relatively high concentration.

Sure, it's not good for you, but in a case where you're otherwise going to starve would you worry about how healthy the only available food was? Possible later bad effects vs. death?
Adrian Barbeau-Bot
07-07-2005, 03:43
sure... why not? i eat cow meat, and its pretty damn good. from what i understand, its like a steak, only abit sweeter and softer... tell me that doesnt sound good.

no, i wouldnt just kill a random person and eat them, but if there just... happened to be someone already cooked up, why the hell not?
JuNii
07-07-2005, 04:10
Would you ever consider eating human flesh?
What... that is SICK!... you should have your head examined... I mean really...
that is so disgusting...

really Disgusting...

um... never have I heard such...

you gonna eat that leg?
New Fubaria
07-07-2005, 05:09
C'mon! Who's going to keep up the tank talk here?
Why not start a new thread instead of hijacking this one?
Sino
07-07-2005, 06:37
I think the prion disease you are all referring to is called Kreutzfeld-Jacobsen's (spelling?) disease. It has received notoriety of late because Mad Cow diseased beef can spontaneously cause the K-J disease (syndrome?) in people.

No, I'm not referring to the human strain of mad cow. The main symptom was that he could never control his laughter for the rest of his life, imagine... your laughter only stops when you die.
Non Aligned States
07-07-2005, 06:39
Why not start a new thread instead of hijacking this one?

Because hijacking is so much fun =p

Speaking of which Sino, if you've got plenty of technical expertise, I might try to get you up on MSN if you have it. Could do with some help on a new armored vehicle design I'm tinkering with. You'll have to keep an open mind though.
The Blue Cookie Cult
07-07-2005, 06:40
Well, most animals seem to think human meat is rather untasty. For instance, most sharks release human victims because they dislike the taste of human flesh. Grizzly bears do so as well. So I doubt that human flesh is tasty. I also doubt that it provides any more nutrition than other plentiful resources. In fact, there has been a study on the cannibalism of the Aztecs. With the Aztecs limited food supply, one may have developed the thesis that cannibalism was needed for the sake of nutrition. But the conclusion of the study (http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/aztecs/montellano.htm) was this...

"It is generally agreed that the Aztecs practiced ritual cannibalism but there is no agreement about the extent of this practice. Human sacrifices, cannibalism, and the behavior of Aztec warriors can all be attributed to and explained by motivational factors, such as religion and the desire to achieve status in society. These have been shown to be extremely powerful motives in other societies, including our own. There is no need to invoke an ecological explanation based on cannibalism as a dietary supplement, especially when neither need for a supplement nor the significance of the dietary contribution of human flesh is clearly established."

So personally, I'd rather return the bodies of my fellow humans to the soil than down a toilet. I have a respect for the way that through death, a person can become part of the earth. I particularly like this poem's description of death... it's called Thanatopsis (http://www.poetry-archive.com/b/thanatopsis.html) .
Sino
07-07-2005, 06:41
Why not start a new thread instead of hijacking this one?

Why should I, it's better to see metal over muscle.
Non Aligned States
07-07-2005, 06:42
Seeing that I can't access your public user display Sino, can you TG me your MSN addy?
Sino
07-07-2005, 06:43
Because hijacking is so much fun =p

Speaking of which Sino, if you've got plenty of technical expertise, I might try to get you up on MSN if you have it. Could do with some help on a new armored vehicle design I'm tinkering with. You'll have to keep an open mind though.

I suppose I could give this a try, as I'm only a n00b. I've got some friends on NS who are hardout into all kinds of weapons. I'll TG you my MSN email.
The Blue Cookie Cult
07-07-2005, 06:53
Why should I, it's better to see metal over muscle.

Yay! It's Sino! He's/She's once again spreading his/her love through the threads. Come on old buddy... you know you want to hug me. ;)
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 07:12
Define 'civilised'.

If it is done respectfully, I would consider it respectful.

Bump. Not up to it Sino?
The Blue Cookie Cult
07-07-2005, 07:26
Bump. Not up to it Sino?

Well, since Sino isn't answering, would you mind if I gave you my opinion on the matter?

My opinion on the matter is that cannibalism is completely pointless. Whether or not it is "civilized" is of no concern to me. Though, if you were wondering the definition of civilized, it is the following (NOTE: there is obviously more than one meaning). "Having a high state of culture and development both social and technological."

So if one was, by this definition, living in a "civilized" place, would they really need to practice to cannibalism? Technologically developed nations certainly wouldn't need to eat human flesh as a source of nutrition.
Drzhen
07-07-2005, 08:43
Quoting Sino:
C'mon! Who's going to keep up the tank talk here?

Quoting the thread title:
Cannibalism or "...mmmm, soylent green!"

Perhaps your bouts of epilepsy have confused you just where you are. Please, go find a thread with children such as yourself who enjoy a good tank talk before bedtime.
Sino
07-07-2005, 08:48
Yay! It's Sino! He's/She's once again spreading his/her love through the threads. Come on old buddy... you know you want to hug me. ;)

Why don't ya hug cold steel?

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/malaya/vtpMne-Miller-at-Practice.jpg

The reason why I don't answer to some of your posts is because there's no tanks or guns involved!
Flesh Eatin Zombies
07-07-2005, 13:49
Well, since Sino isn't answering, would you mind if I gave you my opinion on the matter?

My opinion on the matter is that cannibalism is completely pointless. Whether or not it is "civilized" is of no concern to me. Though, if you were wondering the definition of civilized, it is the following (NOTE: there is obviously more than one meaning). "Having a high state of culture and development both social and technological."

So if one was, by this definition, living in a "civilized" place, would they really need to practice to cannibalism? Technologically developed nations certainly wouldn't need to eat human flesh as a source of nutrition.

We weren't talking about it as a source of nutrition, but rather as a way of mourning/disposing of the dead. Nope, strictly speaking that isn't necessary, but neither are funerals or headstones.
China3
07-07-2005, 14:08
Eaten already :S:S



Tastes good.
Sino
08-07-2005, 01:05
Perhaps your bouts of epilepsy have confused you just where you are. Please, go find a thread with children such as yourself who enjoy a good tank talk before bedtime.

Firstly, I'm not epileptic. Children? Children wouldn't even know what dimension is 120mm. You folks here are being immature by bending the rules set by society and condoning cannibalism for enjoyment.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
08-07-2005, 02:49
Firstly, I'm not epileptic. Children? Children wouldn't even know what dimension is 120mm. You folks here are being immature by bending the rules set by society and condoning cannibalism for enjoyment.

If you read the original post properly you would notice that it did not condone cannibalism for enjoyment. Nor do I, nor most of the people on this thread, though if we were I don't think that would be a *childish* thing to do. Challenging social norms isn't just for children, and sometimes it needs to be done.
Drzhen
08-07-2005, 02:55
Noticing someone had posted after Sino, I shall make it clear I am addressing this directly to Sino.

It's mostly satire. The fact you fail to understand we all do not actually eat people, nor usually think about it, pretty much sums up that you cannot possibly be that old, or if you are, then you'll find communicating with people to be very confusing.

Bending the rules set forth by society... how would you define "society"? Are you aware that rules are made by oligarchies, whether judges appointed by the executive branch, which is oligarchic, or the Founding Fathers back in 1776? (Assuming you are American, and if not, apply the basic foundation.)

Perhaps society tomorrow decides to take a citizen's vote on cannibalism, and make it legal to eat dead human meat. That doesn't make it right, and nor does it make it wrong. A consensus of everyone but yourself can still make the consensus stupid. And that is something you must learn.

I'm sure you are reading this, thinking about tank chassis, or schematics of automatic rifles. Or perhaps a smart-ass quip. You can argue all you want about the glorious society, the fact is that if something can be argued about, then it has no ultimate truth.
New Fubaria
08-07-2005, 03:14
Noticing someone had posted after Sino, I shall make it clear I am addressing this directly to Sino.

It's mostly satire. The fact you fail to understand we all do not actually eat people, nor usually think about it, pretty much sums up that you cannot possibly be that old, or if you are, then you'll find communicating with people to be very confusing.

Bending the rules set forth by society... how would you define "society"? Are you aware that rules are made by oligarchies, whether judges appointed by the executive branch, which is oligarchic, or the Founding Fathers back in 1776? (Assuming you are American, and if not, apply the basic foundation.)

Perhaps society tomorrow decides to take a citizen's vote on cannibalism, and make it legal to eat dead human meat. That doesn't make it right, and nor does it make it wrong. A consensus of everyone but yourself can still make the consensus stupid. And that is something you must learn.

I'm sure you are reading this, thinking about tank chassis, or schematics of automatic rifles. Or perhaps a smart-ass quip. You can argue all you want about the glorious society, the fact is that if something can be argued about, then it has no ultimate truth.
Well put! :)

Firstly, I'm not epileptic. Children? Children wouldn't even know what dimension is 120mm. You folks here are being immature by bending the rules set by society and condoning cannibalism for enjoyment.
Really? I was into all things military from about 8 onwards. I couldv'e quoted you the stats for an M113 or M60 from about 9 or 10 onwards...:p
Drzhen
08-07-2005, 03:42
Quoting New Fubaria:
Really? I was into all things military from about 8 onwards. I couldv'e quoted you the stats for an M113 or M60 from about 9 or 10 onwards...

Maybe I just had a boring childhood, but I was never interested in military technology. Probably because it's pieces of metal handled by people who often barely pass high-school.

And as for cannibalism, mm-mm good.
Ugochocka
08-07-2005, 04:14
Never. If I was in that Alive movie situation, I would hike straight out of there, after an hours rest to recover from the plane crash(this is only assuming that I'm uninjured of course) then set off with some tucker, and any other fit human beings who wanted to come.
I would take some co- ordinates of the planes crash point, and try to proceed to civilisation and send rescue from there.
If you wait around for a few days, then decide to go, you will be to weak, and might have to resort to cannabilism.
Best off leaving within an hour of crash, weather permitting.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
08-07-2005, 05:07
Bending the rules set forth by society... how would you define "society"? Are you aware that rules are made by oligarchies, whether judges appointed by the executive branch, which is oligarchic, or the Founding Fathers back in 1776? (Assuming you are American, and if not, apply the basic foundation.)



I think he's Chinese. On another thread he was describing himself as a 'Chinazi'.
Drzhen
08-07-2005, 05:09
I'm suddenly getting a craving for Chinazi.
Oxwana
08-07-2005, 05:41
I wonder what people taste like :eek:
Pork, aparently.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
09-07-2005, 02:44
I'm suddenly getting a craving for Chinazi.

That kinda makes it sound like an Italian wine. :p
Zweites
09-07-2005, 03:20
Baby! The other other white meat!
Baby! It's what's for dinner!
Opressive pacifists
09-07-2005, 03:24
no human flesh, but just about everything else...
Drzhen
10-07-2005, 02:41
Must be. In any case, I'd rather take a good Johannesburg.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
10-07-2005, 02:57
"I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice Chinazi' :p
Drzhen
10-07-2005, 10:13
Now, that sounds mighty tasty.
Harlesburg
10-07-2005, 11:34
I actually thought of this today what would a Vego do if they were stranded and only had Human Flesh to eat its like 2 No nos in one.
Drzhen
10-07-2005, 11:45
The vegan would die because everyone knows that all vegetarians are stupid idiots. Well, not really of course. Eventually, as one starts to die of starvation, alone, with a source of food, I doubt they would really think of their morals as strongly as the churning in their stomach, and that nice piece of leg sitting in front of them. Am I wrong? Probably not.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
11-07-2005, 02:14
I actually thought of this today what would a Vego do if they were stranded and only had Human Flesh to eat its like 2 No nos in one.

I'm a vegetarian myself, but if all I had to eat was human flesh I'd eat it. Ditto if all I had was some other kind of meat. Ought implies can: if you have no choice it can't be immoral.
Via Ferrata
11-07-2005, 02:27
Guess that your "Kianti" is "Chianti", the Italian wine? ;)

But like we know in Congo, Pygmee is best roasted with olive oil and matches well with a strong and aromatic wine from Cabernet grapes, best in a blend with merlot. A good Pomerol or St Emillion or one of the better Sonoma wines are great with it.

BTW, just like pig, raw and medium are forbidden because of the bacteria. It tastes a bit like pig. Best is to raise the Pygmee (they have the finest meat because they are mostly vegy) between bars during his last two weeks and give him lots of milk, that makes the texture of the meat very soft and gives it a even better taste. :cool:

It is for each one, a discovery.
Bushrepublican liars
11-07-2005, 03:12
You really ate Pygmee? Wow, must go to Congo once. Is it expensive (guess you can buy at the black market in Kinsasha)?
Via Ferrata
11-07-2005, 03:54
You really ate Pygmee? Wow, must go to Congo once. Is it expensive (guess you can buy at the black market in Kinsasha)?

For buying human meat (everything is for sale, from nicaraguan kidneys for fat Americans till human meat, thank you Bush for your way of capitalisme in wich death Iraqi childs can be eaten when you take care, that would be a good Halliburton idea).

When you really are interested in human meat,perhaps you can find your it the US via this (serious) link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010331032727/www.manbeef.com/home.html
http://www.e-telescope.gr/en/cat03/art03_010724.htm
Velo
13-07-2005, 00:58
http://web.archive.org/web/20010331032727/www.manbeef.com/home.html
http://www.e-telescope.gr/en/cat03/art03_010724.htm

Doh, can we also order online? :confused:
New Fubaria
13-07-2005, 03:38
When you really are interested in human meat,perhaps you can find your it the US via this (serious) link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010331032727/www.manbeef.com/home.html
http://www.e-telescope.gr/en/cat03/art03_010724.htm
LOL - I can't decide whether that's a serious site or an elaborate joke - surely it's illegal to buy human remains for eating?
Flesh Eatin Zombies
13-07-2005, 06:14
LOL - I can't decide whether that's a serious site or an elaborate joke - surely it's illegal to buy human remains for eating?

Of course it is.
Gathren
13-07-2005, 06:54
as a vegitarian, i would probably get my nurishment from photosynthesis
Drzhen
13-07-2005, 22:10
And a few sunburns in the process.