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How many people actually knows what it means?

and how many people can pronounce it five time really fast... :D

Oh and is this before or after they Google it?

Clicky -> :) (http://www.antidisestablishmentarianism.com/)

How many people actually knows what it means?

Hold on....anti+disestablishment....er...against the church of England???


*I totally didn't edit it to make myself sound smart ;) *

Being Against those who are against the establishment of the Church of England or something similar to that.

Being Against those who are against the establishment of the Church of England or something similar to that.

No, it means against the disestablishment of the church.

Does anybody remember the time on Blackadder III when Prince George spent two weeks trying to say Antidisestablishmentarianism? The best he'd managed after two entire weeks was, "anti-distinctly-minty-montanism"

Hold on....anti+disestablishment....er...authoritarianism???

nope. Unless you consider the Church of Englad to be an Authoritarian body. (thank you Wikipedia!)

here's the Link, you can read about it yourselves...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidisestablishmentarianism

Someone must be getting paid by the letter to come up with new -isms. Nice work there.

I disagree with it as the state has no business messing with religion.

No, it means against the disestablishment of the church.

...which is exactly what he said....

Someone must be getting paid by the letter to come up with new -isms. Nice work there.

Yeah, they just came up with it last week and all.

Ok, I cheated and looked it up...

Going by the Oxford Dictionary, I had to choose "yes I agree with it." because I do agree with the popular use of the word.

Spoiler.
“Properly, opposition to the disestablishment of the Church of England, but popularly cited as an example of a long word.” – Oxford English Dictionary

Hold on....anti+disestablishment....er...authoritarianism???
no, antidisestablishmentarianism is bad, authoritarianism is good.

nope. Unless you consider the Church of Englad to be an Authoritarian body. (thank you Wikipedia!)

here's the Link, you can read about it yourselves...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidisestablishmentarianism


You're damn straight the Anglican Church is an Authoritarian body!

Now I feel less intelligent because I had to dictionary.com that one.

As to it, I disagree with it because if you need a whole new, long ass word to describe your opposotion to opposition to having a state religion, you are a heartless bastard and shouldn't have a say in anything. And because the older I get the more I realize that every single Western religion save the polytheistic ones are pretty ignorant, hypocritical, and overall a negative influence on society. So let the disestablishment commence.

Antidisestablishmentarianism is a word which was invented by someone who was overly fond of pre- and suf-fixes. :D

...which is exactly what he said....
Uh, no...he said against the establishment. I said against the disestablishment. Please read it through.

Uh, no...he said against the establishment. I said against the disestablishment. Please read it through.

No, he said against those who are against the establishment, i.e. against those who are for the disestablishment.

How many people actually knows what it means?
The disestablishment of a major church or goverment! In other words....

DIEEE~~~!!!!!!!

:mp5:


:sniper:

No, he said against those who are against the establishment, i.e. against those who are for the disestablishment.
1. That is not what the word means.
2. That's not what I said.

I knew what it meant. Where's the option if you don't have an opinion either way?

I remember this from my 6th grade spelling list.

And whatever your position is (or ability with the word of) antidisestablishmentarianism actually is, have you (or would you) visit Llanfairpwchgwyngychgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch to do it!

(And there is bound to be at least one error in my typing of that... I keep on forgetting it's a 'y' in "tyslio", for starters... ;))

Didn't this appear in the same sentence as " Anti - taco legislation"?

I disagree with it's original usage, I now agree with it though.

It's something about being against people who are against the establisment. Right?

Bah, the Church of England and its Episcopacy shall reign resplendant forever.

Years of abuse from English teachers have broken my capacity to understand double negatives. In theory, I know what it is, but then, when I look at it, my eyes glaze over and inexorably slide away whilst my attention is diverted to my computers clock. Further, after I look away, my mind immediately begins scrubbing all traces of "antidiseasedtabletmentalmariamormonism" and its definition from memory. So that answer is, I dont know what it means, and, as of three minutes ago, I don't even remember what the word is.
Hopefully, I'll never feel the need to say . . . um . . . say . . . to say . . .
Goddammit.

It means you are against the disestablishment of the government. So if you are pro-government, yu are an antidisestablishmentarianist

Antidisestablishmentarianism is movement against the seperation of Church and State which developed around the C19th, in response to the seemily widening gap between the Church and State in Britain.

You can see this through the breakdown of the work:

Anti - Against
Disestablishment - Seperation of church and state
Tarianism - Generally is the suffix of a movement.

Note: I know this due to endless discussion with friends in pointless lessons. ;)

Oh...I voted Yes/agree. I'm Catholic, so I suppose, being a member of the original Church of England (i.e., the Universal Church), I would have to be.

I always thought the antidisestablishmentarianists were the people against the people against organized religion?

i know and im for it

1. That is not what the word means.
2. That's not what I said.
Let's break this down.

You said "against the disestablishment"

He said "against those who are against the establishment"

The italicized part is the same as "disestablishment", as the prefix "dis-" means "against"

If you substitute that in there, you'll see you both said exactly the same thing.

I voted yes. So since most of you don't like me, just vote no. No need to try and understand the meaning of the word.

The established Church of England is IMHO a nice and harmless peculiarity of the United Kingdom reminding us of Henry VIII and Elizabeth I. Why disestablish it?

im so confused. can sum1 explain this word in plan english 4 me? i've never understood it!!!

im so confused. can sum1 explain this word in plan english 4 me? i've never understood it!!!
It's an opposition to the separation of church and state, specifically the movevent against removing the Church of England's status as a state church.

It's an opposition to the separation of church and state, specifically the movevent against removing the Church of England's status as a state church.

so basically, its the ppl who want the church and the state to be united?

so basically, its the ppl who want the church and the state to be united?

Yes, so it might be possible to call today's Christian fundamentalists neoantidisestablishmentarianists.

so basically, its the ppl who want the church and the state to be united?
Not quite, they want the state to endorse the church in question. The nature of that endorsement can vary.

The Queen is the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, the bishops are appointed by the Government and some of them sit in the House of Lords. The Parliament votes upon the fundamental laws of the Church, and ecclesiastical courts form a separate branch of the British court system.

Yes, so it might be possible to call today's Christian fundamentalists neoantidisestablishmentarianists.
Do you regard Mr Blair of the UK and Mrs Halonen of Finland as Christian fundamentalists? I hope not. Still, they both seem to be true antidisestablishmentarianists.

now im really confused!!!!!!!!!

anti-dis-establish-ment-arian-ism

"establish" = to found (particularly an orginazation).

-ment, as in establishment = a public or private organization (political oganization)

-arian, as in establishmentarian = to support public or private political organization

-ism, as in establishmentarianism = a belief supporting the public or private political organization.

dis-, as in disestablishmentarianism = relating to an opponent to public or private political (state) organization.

anti-, as in antidisestablishmentarianism = a belief opposed to opposing public or private political organization.

More specifically, establishmentarians favored the power of the C-of-E as a state Church.

disestablishmentarians favored removing the establishment of the C-of-E as a state church.

Antidisestablishmentarians opposed the removal of the establishment of the C-of-E. the -ism just conveys it as a principle of belief....

Don't ya just love suffix and prefix usage? :D

Antidisestablishmentarianism, n. The ideology against separation of church and state, especially in oppposition to the Anglican Church of England. Often mistaken for the longest word in the English Language, which

1) isn't true, as the correct answer is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (sp?)

2) can be easily modified by anyone to the even longer "antidisestablishmentarianistically", as in "I don't believe in the separation of church and state," he said antidisestablishmentarianistically -- although if you use it like that in a book your editors are probably going to cry. ;)

Antidisestablishmentarianism, n. The ideology against separation of church and state, especially in oppposition to the Anglican Church of England. Often mistaken for the longest word in the English Language, which

1) isn't true, as the correct answer is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (sp?)

2) can be easily modified by anyone to the even longer "antidisestablishmentarianistically", as in "I don't believe in the separation of church and state," he said antidisestablishmentarianistically -- although if you use it like that in a book your editors are probably going to cry. ;)

You spelling is correct....

Though, you can get longer if you go into proper names.

There is a Welsh town called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch which translated as "The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave" (I wonder how you put that on an envelope? for the post?)

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im even more confused!!!! obviously theres no easy way 2 explain this is there?!

If you're from the U.S., it means you hate hippies.

Damn hippies.

You spelling is correct....

Though, you can get longer if you go into proper names.

There is a Welsh town called Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch which translated as "The church of St. Mary in the hollow of white hazel trees near the rapid whirlpool by St. Tysilio's of the red cave" (I wonder how you put that on an envelope? for the post?)Then there are a few amino acids with 3,000+ letters, tacitaurethilgarcivilananisciolitinicinine... and on and on and on...

im even more confused!!!! obviously theres no easy way 2 explain this is there?!

Confused?

"Antidisestablishmentarianism" literally means the belief of those who are opposed to those who oppose the creation of organization.

More specifically (politically) it is applied in English government; as those who opposed those who were for seperation of Church and State... "Disestablishmentarians" wanting to remove the the ENglish state Church (Church of England) in favor of seperation (like in the US). Those who opposed the "Disestablishmentarians" were called "Antidisestablishmentarians" thus, their belief is "antidisestablishmentarianism"; the belief of being against those who are against the establishment of the Church of England as a state Church...

If you're from the U.S., it means you hate hippies.

Damn hippies.
Agreed. If the word says other and the dictionary other, the word is right. The word is composed of the root "establish" and derivational suffixes; we can't bring in the Church of England all of a sudden, because "establish" does not specify it.

Disestablishmentarians are such things as hippies, people who oppose authority because it's an authority. Such an ideology is unacceptable.

But, English can't do much better than this word. The equivalent Finnish would be yhteiskunnanvastustajienvastustus. Try yhteiskuntajärjestelmällistämättömyydenvastustaja, someone who opposes the lack of forcing (something) into a societal infrastructure. (Notice that this is the basic form; we can add any noun suffixes into it, like yhteiskuntajärjestelmällistämättömyydenvastustajiltammekaan "also from our --".) Neoconservatives are these w.r.t. foreign politics; they oppose the idea that you don't force Western models on some societal networks such as the Iraqi clan system. Compare cultural relativists, yhteiskuntajärjestelmällistämättömyydenkannattajat.

Btw: the above are compound words composed of four parts: yhteis-kunta-järjestelmällistämättömyyden-kannattajat. The rest are inseparable words.

Does anybody remember the time on Blackadder III when Prince George spent two weeks trying to say Antidisestablishmentarianism? The best he'd managed after two entire weeks was, "anti-distinctly-minty-montanism"

Sadly, this is the entire reason I came into this topic in the first place. ~smirk~

Edmund: "I'll be back before you can say antidisestablishmentarianism."
George: "Well, I don't know about that. I mean, antid... anti..."

~Two Weeks Later~

George: "Anti distinctly minty..."

Heh.

It means to be against the disestablishment of the Church.

opposition to the disestablishment of the Church of England, now opposition to the belief that there should no longer be an official church in a country

But i had to dictionary it

Anti - Against
Disestablishment - Seperation of church and state
Tarianism - Generally is the suffix of a movement.

Actually;

Anti - Against... Got that right.

Disestablishment - To disestablish... The act of disestablishment. To un-do what has been previously brought to bear

Tarianism - Dealing with or otherwise refering to the government.

Now, the word disest...ism was used by the movement refered to earlier, because of it's obvious context.

Using logic I broke it down: Antidisestablishment

Anti meant against usually.

disestablishment means against establishment.

So I assumed For the establishment.

I didn't realize it meant the establishment of the Church ruling the state.

the double negative pisses me off. *shakes fist*

1) isn't true, as the correct answer is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (sp?)
Very true, however it is the longest non medical word and non proper noun (because then someone could just invent a 50 character name).

Those crazy doctors.