NationStates Jolt Archive

On Fox news, just now, they mentioned that the 4th of July ceremony is going to have more security than ever in history. 27 police agencies across multiple states and cities are providing security, Washington D.C. police have set up a series of cameras watching every inch of the city, and there are five security checkpoints to enter the event. And yet, despite this, the Bush administration cut Washington D.C. police's funding, using a great deal of their money for his inauguration ceremony in 2004.

So, this brings two questions:
#1. Why would security for July 4th, 2005 be so much heavier than in July of 2002, immediately following 9\11, and every year since then?

#2. Why would President Bush slash D.C. police funding, but then have such overwhelming security for the Inauguration ceremony and July 4th?

The answer: psychological-warfare. It's important that all of the participants are reminded of the constant danger they're in. Despite the fact that there has never been even a suicide-bombing since 9\11, which would be incredibly easy to accomplish, we are to believe that there would be a massive terrorist attack on July 4th, no, not in something poorly guarded like the basement of WTC (first WTC attack), a road in Oklahoma City (Timothy McVeigh), or commercial jet (9\11), but in an already highly-secure area, such as the 4th of July celebrations. How logical.

Well two possibilities:

1. High security=good PR
2. They are suspecting something.

Still, there are a lot better targets to hit, and they could do a lot more damage. The areas that can do the most damage have not had any major security improvements since 9/11, like food supplies and ports of entry.

Well two possibilities:

1. High security=good PR
2. They are suspecting something.

Still, there are a lot better targets to hit, and they could do a lot more damage. The areas that can do the most damage have not had any major security improvements since 9/11, like food supplies and ports of entry.
Yeah. Actually, you're right. That is true. They could have intelligence on a specific attack, but didn't want to mention it, to stop people from coming. But it's really paranoia to think that terrorists are going to hit something like the 4th of July celebration or Times Square on New Year's, to the point that it would need the security they provide.

The bombs that terrorists could construct would kill just as many people at a baseball game, as at the 4th of July ceremony. And there would be less security to get past so, realistically, there's about as much motivation for terrorists to attack the July 4th celebration as there is for them to attack the White House.

Yes, there's a chance it could happen, and there should be security. But that doesn't mean we should temporarily turn the area into Orwell's 1984. One person at the event told Fox News that it was "depressing."

Oh, and.. If I were a wacko conspiracy-theorist (I'm not, but it's humoring), I'd say they're putting something in the water at the event. Fox News said that it's difficult bringing drinks and coolers into the event (they always have problems with alcoholics bringing in booze), but if you come inside, they provide free water.

I don't know about you, but the CIA worked on the Stargate program for 20 years, and one of the people that gave a final report on America's psychic research said it showed psychic ability exists. ...And... "Free government water" just sounds creepy. It doesn't sound right, man. Reagan's free government cheese. Bush's free government water. Something wrong, man. Republicans never make anything free, unless they have something to benefit from it. It's probably mind control... Got the same fluoride or something that liberals used to turn people into Communists, hahaha.

Oh come now, it's just part and parcel of the ongoing craze for burning money that the US has been enjoying for the last decade or so. Go ahead, boys. Make yourselves feel secure. Everybody knows you'll eventually just cancel your national debt anyway.

Yeah. Actually, you're right. That is true. They could have intelligence on a specific attack, but didn't want to mention it, to stop people from coming.
Or possibility 2. They dont give away details of the attacks that they're not sure of because if they don't come, nut jobs like you will take that as proof that they are making things up.
The bombs that terrorists could construct would kill just as many people at a baseball game, as at the 4th of July ceremony.
Jesus christ, haven't you people heard of Psychological warfare? Doolittle could have killed just as many Japanese soldiers bombing Sumatra instead of Japan, with a whole lot less ack acks involved, but he didn't did he?

<snip> The bombs that terrorists could construct would kill just as many people at a baseball game, as at the 4th of July ceremony. And there would be less security to get past so, realistically, there's about as much motivation for terrorists to attack the July 4th celebration as there is for them to attack the White House.

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Something wrong, man. Republicans never make anything free, unless they have something to benefit from it. It's probably mind control... Got the same fluoride or something that liberals used to turn people into Communists, hahaha.

Except that terrorism is primarily for psychological value. Why take out a baseball game when you can attack the 4th of July celebrations, or make another attack on Sept 11? Don't forget, if terrorists only went after the easy targets, they'd not have attempted attacks against the Pentagon and the White House.

Fluoride = devil's spawn. I will fight to preserve America's precious bodily fluids (doesn't that sound much dirtier these days?) :mp5:

Well.. I'm planning on heading downtown in a couple hours to check out the event. I'll let you know how bad the police state has gotten. ;) :p

Actually, I'm wondering how Bush has control over the finances of the city of Washington, D.C.

I thought they had a mayor and a city council that runs city business...

Actually, I'm wondering how Bush has control over the finances of the city of Washington, D.C.

I thought they had a mayor and a city council that runs city business...
Executive Orders. Executive Orders created the NSA, and the Police Corps. And the NSA recieves more funding than the military. Being that Washington D.C. is under the direct control of Congress, Bush also has the right to veto any budget change or legislation (whereas, in any other State, it is the State that mostly determines police funding).