NationStates Jolt Archive

Okay, let me start of with some explanation of what would make up a Mid East Coalition.

Actually, first, let me explain something else. I know you're going to criticize me for stealing the name from BF2, but 1) who cares, 2) the name works, 3) believe it or not, but I used the term in a debate with a group of people about 4 years ago anyway and didn't care when EA stole it from me.

Now, basically, a Middle Eastern Coalition (MEC) would be a stronger, tighter version of NATO. The countries of the Middle East would unite their militaries, which would serve multiple purposes.

Firstly, seeing as any one ME nation could easily be over ran by any moderately powerful nation (and then deal with years of insurgency), the MEC could help defend ME nations from foreign attackers that the MEC feels does not have the ME's best interest in mind.

Additionally, the MEC would provide the ME nations a way to come together and take care of their own problems, like terrorism, so foreign troops of attacked nations are less necessary. Not to mention, if MEC troops were used instead of foreign troops that the Mid Easterners already hate, the likelihood and severity of an insurgency would be significantly less.


So, debate...in my opinion, if it were built right, it would solve a significant number of world problems...and bring balance to very, very unstable region...

The problem with this is they hate eachother over there.

I'm pretty sure they hate foreigners more...

It's wishful thinking though. The Syrians have already been in Lebanon and they've gotten hated there. Plus, take a look at the Arab League. They aren't even together for military reasons and can't come up with a decision to save one of their members the shame of being overrun by a foreign power. There's no initiative in the Middle East for something like that to work.

Okay...first off, if this MEC is to come about, it'd likely take guidance from a foreign power (or initiative by multiple leaders in the Arab world, representing different factions, etc).

However...in this underpants gnomes theory...

Middle East quagmire (err desert)
???
Middle East Coalition (aka profit)

We're not looking at the ??? part...we're looking at just step 3 for now...please...

Okay...first off, if this MEC is to come about, it'd likely take guidance from a foreign power (or initiative by multiple leaders in the Arab world, representing different factions, etc).

However...in this underpants gnomes theory...

Middle East quagmire (err desert)
???
Middle East Coalition (aka profit)

We're not looking at the ??? part...we're looking at just step 3 for now...please...
There was a greater arab republic consisting of Syria, Iraq, and Egypt a while back (which is why Syria has two green stars on its flag and Iraq has three, Egypt having removed them after the alliance failed). If anything, you could build on that.

Oh yay, what a plan.
Lets get Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, all the way to Bahrain, all in one big alliance, then sit back and take bets on which leader comes back drunk from a party and shouts "Letsh declare war on Isaer....Iaesl....that country near Shyria!" and watch as everyone gears up for Jihad. No thanks, I'm ok.

I think they tried something like this...Yeah, I think it was called the Six-Day War.

Didn't work well then, either. BTW, the US would do everything in its power to disrupt such a union from occuring. Just look at ASEN and suchlike. The US is not in the business of creating competing superstate powers.

So, debate...in my opinion, if it were built right, it would solve a significant number of world problems...and bring balance to very, very unstable region...
Sorry, I just saw this, and found it hysterical. So getting all the nations in the region barring Israel, who they all hate, would bring balance? Riight, might have to question that logic, and claim that it would probably just lead to Six-day war chapter 2.

Someone has been playing too much Battlefield 2.

The problem with this is they hate eachother over there.

Read my mind.

It's been tried by Nasser (the Pan-Arabism movement) but it failed. A few short-lived federations and coalitions were attempted by Egypt.

Later, Ghadafi has pushed Pan-Africanism / African Union and it gave mixed results.

Someone has been playing too much Battlefield 2.
Thanks for reading my post.


Anyway, Israel would have the option of joining if they wanted...but I really don't see that happening.

Something else I don't see happening would be a long war with Israel. Even if there was a war, it would be short-lived because the creation of the coalition means we would be dealing mainly with a military. A diplomatic entity. Not numerous terrorist organizations. Diplomatic entities sign treaties and agree to terms...because if they don't, the world attacks their nation, and the attacked nation does not get much sympathy because they clearly brought it on themselves for not withdrawing from Israel.

When terrorists attack, and foreigners are forced to deal with terrorists...well, we get Afghanistan, and we get Iraq. More terrorism by people who simply do not want Americans in the Middle East.

Anyway, Israel would have the option of joining if they wanted...but I really don't see that happening.



Heehee, yeah right, then we could get a coalition with France, Germany and England, maybe one with America, Syria, Israel and Lebanon. Hell, lets get a coalition of Iran, North Korea and America. Wishful thinking I fear, Unblogged.

Last time they went for greater unity down there it didn't work out though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Arab_Republic

The only time I think there would be a united front in uproar if Saudi Arabia were bombed by foreigners.