NationStates Jolt Archive


"Fox Factor"

The Chinese Republics
03-07-2005, 01:38
Wow, our ambassador to the US is really p***ed off at Fox. And so do I. :mad:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/02/mckenna-fox050702.html

Any thoughts?
Whittier--
03-07-2005, 01:40
What did Fox say that has you up in arms?
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 01:42
I don't see a problem here. People are exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of the press to report something that could or could not be true. Have they entered into the US via Canada? Who knows.

Can't take a little criticism. *shrugs shoulders* I'm more worried about our southern border with Mexico than the northern border anyway but I should be concerned about the Canadian border due too the lax immigration laws Canada has.
The Chinese Republics
03-07-2005, 01:48
What did Fox say that has you up in arms?

Did you read this article?:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nati...-fox050702.html

Did you ever watched FOX News.

I watched this channel for 1 hour, making absurd criticism about my country.

They criticised our country ranging from the Iraq War to trade dispute.
Whittier--
03-07-2005, 01:48
the border with mexico is more of concern than the one with Canada. You know about those 5 Iranians they caught a couple weeks back trying to sneak in from Mexico with maps and bombs under their clothing? And the Mexican government had given them survival kits so they wouldn't die in the desert. They were caught in a group of about 34 illegal aliens by the US Border Patrol.
Now try telling me that illegal immigration is not a national security threat. Try telling me that all illegals are harmless.
Whittier--
03-07-2005, 01:50
Did you read this article?:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/nati...-fox050702.html

Did you ever watched FOX News.

I watched this channel for 1 hour, making absurd criticism about my country.

They criticised our country ranging from the Iraq War to trade dispute.
Most of the time I watch Fox. But I think you are confusing some of the commentary programs with the actual news programs. Bill O Reilly gives commentary, not news reports. His views do not necessarily reflect those of the network.
Try watching the Fox Report. Fox and Friends is good too but the hosts also freely give their opinions on the news.
Undelia
03-07-2005, 01:51
Whatever. I support militarizing both borders. Mexico is the first priority, though.
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 01:55
Most of the time I watch Fox. But I think you are confusing some of the commentary programs with the actual news programs. Bill O Reilly gives commentary, not news reports. His views do not necessarily reflect those of the network.
Try watching the Fox Report. Fox and Friends is good too but the hosts also freely give their opinions on the news.

Fox Report is good. Shepard Smith has got to be the best Fox News Reporter there is.
Xanaz
03-07-2005, 02:05
I don't see a problem here. People are exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of the press to report something that could or could not be true. Have they entered into the US via Canada? Who knows.

Canada knows and so does the US, 16 out of the 19 hijackers were in the USA legally. Don't be blaming other countries for who YOU let into your country. As soon as they reach YOUR border it's no longer a Canadian problem, it becomes a USA problem. Canada doesn't decide who enters the USA, the USA does.

Then again, we're talking about Fox.. should anyone really be surprised.. ? :rolleyes:
Liverbreath
03-07-2005, 02:07
Wow, our ambassador to the US is really p***ed off at Fox. And so do I. :mad:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/02/mckenna-fox050702.html

Any thoughts?

Hmm, after searching fox for any recent articles about canada and finding none, it would appear that he feels he needs someone to blame for the negative image Canada is projecting of itself. With the corruption scandal and everything I am sure it is easier to find a scapegoat to blame for the negative image Canadians have projected of themselves the last few months.
To be quite honest, I have been hoping my observations of Canadians on this board were not indicative of the overall population of Canada because if it is, my opinion of Canada has been entirely mistaken for a very long time.
Cadillac-Gage
03-07-2005, 02:08
Wow, our ambassador to the US is really p***ed off at Fox. And so do I. :mad:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/02/mckenna-fox050702.html

Any thoughts?

Sounds like he's worried about yellow-journalism hurting Canada's negotiation positions.

It's a good idea, though, for Canada to make an effort to counter whatever (snicker) negative image it might have.. (giggle)...even if said image is the result of (chuckle) a few reports on a minor network (chrotle) that aren't all that negative (ow...)

I'm really surprised Canadians worry about the American Public's opinion that much. I'm sorry, but to most yanks, you Canucks are kind of polite, boring folks who make decent music, good comedians, and send us your best Hockey Teams and players.
ISTR a map in a political cartoon that showed the East Coast, California, a region in between called "Redneck", and a big region to the north called "Hockey" (slightly to the east of "Igloos"). I think it would be nearly impossible to motivate teh American public to a war (or trade-war) frenzy because of that enduring image of the polite-but-slightly-confused Canada.

Even the media might of Fox couldn't do it, I would wager.
Undelia
03-07-2005, 02:11
Fox Report is good. Shepard Smith has got to be the best Fox News Reporter there is.

My dad once called him a mimbo (a male bimbo). I understand that. To me, at least, he doesn’t seem very intelligent at all. He just reads the stuff they give him, albeit well. If that is all it takes to be a news presenter, then whatever.
Xanaz
03-07-2005, 02:12
Liverbreath']Hmm, after searching fox for any recent articles about canada and finding none

They must of taken it down or you don't know how to search it's one or the other, because Fox has been spewing outright lies about Canada. I've seen it on the Fox news website and in Canada, Canadians get the Fox News channel and so, sorry, you're wrong. Fox is not even taken all that serious in Canada, sort of the joke USA station, but outright lying when it is known that they didn't come from Canada is crossing the line.

Why is it whenever the US messes up, they blame everyone but themselves?
The Chinese Republics
03-07-2005, 02:29
I don't see a problem here. People are exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of the press to report something that could or could not be true. Have they entered into the US via Canada? Who knows.

Can't take a little criticism. *shrugs shoulders* I'm more worried about our southern border with Mexico than the northern border anyway but I should be concerned about the Canadian border due too the lax immigration laws Canada has.

Our immigration laws is not really lax, but immigration policy is very absurd and screwed up.

ex.
A middle eastern women seeks refuge in Canada because of the tyranny in country, immigration Canada denied her.

And just recently, this: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/24/syrian-birth050624.html

Our immigration is not lax, it's screwed!
FoxTopia
03-07-2005, 02:33
The Chinese Republics Their's really no need to worry i think. Public opinion in the states, as far as i'm aware of, isn't all that anti-Canada, and even if it was overwhelmingly "Canada's a good country" it still wouldn't help against politicians, and lobby groups who profit off of the trade disputes.

In the end it's just a bloody TV station with, sometimes, nutbar opinionists who say whatever ignorant thing they want to about anything, including our own Canada
FoxTopia
03-07-2005, 02:40
Our immigration laws is not really lax, but immigration policy is very absurd and screwed up.

ex.
A middle eastern women seeks refuge in Canada because of the tyranny in country, immigration Canada denied her.

And just recently, this: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/24/syrian-birth050624.html

Our immigration is not lax, it's screwed!


Also, was another case where Song Dae Ri from North Korea was going to be deported to NK which, based on what they did to his wife (killed her) ment he would die.. although their 5 year old son would be allowed to stay in Canada.. It took a large letter campaign to the MP in charge of immigration to allow him to stay with his son.

Although the immigration procedures are insane.
Begark
03-07-2005, 02:44
the border with mexico is more of concern than the one with Canada. You know about those 5 Iranians they caught a couple weeks back trying to sneak in from Mexico with maps and bombs under their clothing? And the Mexican government had given them survival kits so they wouldn't die in the desert. They were caught in a group of about 34 illegal aliens by the US Border Patrol.
Now try telling me that illegal immigration is not a national security threat. Try telling me that all illegals are harmless.

No, actually, I didn't hear about that. But I'm interested. Link please.

By the by, claiming that because some illegals are dangerous all illegals are a problem makes as much sense as saying all Indianans are illiterate drunks because you stumble across the Indiana Dyslexic Alchoholic Anonymous Society.

Anyways, the concept of being an illegal alien is fatally flawed IMO as all borders should be open to everyone.
Liverbreath
03-07-2005, 02:46
Our immigration laws is not really lax, but immigration policy is very absurd and screwed up.

ex.
A middle eastern women seeks refuge in Canada because of the tyranny in country, immigration Canada denied her.

And just recently, this: http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/24/syrian-birth050624.html

Our immigration is not lax, it's screwed!

Don't feel alone by any means. Kind of makes one think our governments have an entirely different agenda than what the people think it is. What's worse, in the US at least, it doesn't matter which party is in power. They both do it.
Whittier--
03-07-2005, 03:36
No, actually, I didn't hear about that. But I'm interested. Link please.

By the by, claiming that because some illegals are dangerous all illegals are a problem makes as much sense as saying all Indianans are illiterate drunks because you stumble across the Indiana Dyslexic Alchoholic Anonymous Society.

Anyways, the concept of being an illegal alien is fatally flawed IMO as all borders should be open to everyone.
That would violate national soverignty. It is also close to the argument that land cannot be owned. We all know that people have an inalienable right to own land just as nations have the inalienable right to close their borders and decide who can and who can't enter their territory.

I am not saying all illegals are a problem. I am saying the border needs to be closed so that we can do criminal background checks on every single person entering the US. If they have no criminal record and don't have a contagious disease, they can stay and apply for legal residency. If they don't pass they need to be deported.
Whittier--
03-07-2005, 03:43
To be quite honest, most Americans don't care about Canada.

Though, I do like thier women. Then again I like French women too and Latvian women, and British women. And obviously, American women (Georgian, New York, Arizonan, Texan, and some Californian women in particular though Georgia has the best ones I've seen.)
I can't help it. Everytime I see a female from one of those places, I always think about sticking it in her. I always feel mesmerized by them. Especially the French, British and Georgian women.
Why is that those places got the most hot looking females?
Unblogged
03-07-2005, 03:48
I appluad his efforts. He sent 100,000 letters to some Canadians either living in the US or visiting for an extended period.

So, supposing he sent letters out to at least 2 people, he sent at least 200,000 letters...
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 03:52
I appluad his efforts. He sent 100,000 letters to some Canadians either living in the US or visiting for an extended period.

So, supposing he sent letters out to at least 2 people, he sent at least 200,000 letters...

Actually, he just sent out 100,000 letters.

BTW: in the olympic thread, are you really from west Chester?
Israelities et Buddist
03-07-2005, 03:54
Oh here I thought this might be interesting from the title. Darn. :p GO CANADA!!! Defeat Fox!!!!
The Lightning Star
03-07-2005, 03:54
News Flash: Lou Dobbs(on CNN) also dis-likes Canada. He's ALWAYS ranting on about the illegal mexican immigrants and the Canadians who steal our jobs.
The Chinese Republics
03-07-2005, 04:18
Corneliu, if you are very worried about our Canada/USA border or the immigration policy:

Here's the web sites so you can find the contact numbers and e-mails:

-Canadian Embassy in the United States of America
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/washington/

-Citizenship and Immigration Canada
http://www.cic.gc.ca/

-Immigration and Refugee Board
http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/

-Canada Border Services Agency
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 04:22
Corneliu, if you are very worried about our Canada/USA border or the immigration policy:

Here's the web sites so you can find the contact numbers and e-mails:

-Canadian Embassy in the United States of America
http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/can-am/washington/

-Citizenship and Immigration Canada
http://www.cic.gc.ca/

-Immigration and Refugee Board
http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/

-Canada Border Services Agency
http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/

Actually, I'm not that worried about that border. I'm more worried about our southern border with the Mexicanos. That is the main border I'm worried about. Frankly, I say we just shut all borders and allow no one in.
Undelia
03-07-2005, 04:25
Though, I do like thier women. Then again I like French women too and Latvian women, and British women. And obviously, American women (Georgian, New York, Arizonan, Texan, and some Californian women in particular though Georgia has the best ones I've seen.)
I can't help it. Everytime I see a female from one of those places, I always think about sticking it in her. I always feel mesmerized by them. Especially the French, British and Georgian women.
Why is that those places got the most hot looking females?

Well, I can’t speak for the rest of those places, but we sure know how to grow em down here in Texas. If you know what I mean. ;) :p
Celtlund
03-07-2005, 04:36
"McKenna is enlisting the help of Florida snowbirds, northern exiles in Arizona, Hollywood comedians and actors, investment bankers in New York and professors and students at universities across the United States, the newspaper says."

Canada exiles people to Arizona? I didn't know Arizona was a gulag for Canadian exiles. What were they exiled for? Can they ever go back to Canada? How much are they paying Arizona to take them?

And for you looking for a definition of exile:
ex·ile Audio pronunciation of "exile" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gzl, ksl)
n.

1.
1. Enforced removal from one's native country.

And although this is not the only definition of the word "exile" it is the first to come to mind. :D
Unblogged
03-07-2005, 04:37
Actually, he just sent out 100,000 letters.
Oh, by the way, that was a joke.
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 04:41
Oh, by the way, that was a joke.

Hard to tell over the internet sometimes. :D
Unblogged
03-07-2005, 04:53
Yea...but if you look at the wording in the article, it sounds like he sent 100,000 letters to each Canadian...

Although, if you consider that this post has 165 letters in it (plus a handful of numeric digits), that might not be too far off...but 100,000 letters would make for a really long and boring message...even if long words were used frequently...
Dobbsworld
03-07-2005, 05:41
Actually, I'm not that worried about that border. I'm more worried about our southern border with the Mexicanos. That is the main border I'm worried about. Frankly, I say we just shut all borders and allow no one in.

If you promise not to let anyone out either, consider it a deal.
Kibolonia
03-07-2005, 09:54
I watched this channel for 1 hour, making absurd criticism about my country.

They criticised our country ranging from the Iraq War to trade dispute.
Careful how you complain about Fox. Murdoc is an australian (it doesn't just wash off), you say something that hurts his feelings, he'll end up at your house ripped out of his mind peeing in your mailslot, and when he sobers up his fleet of robotic ninja attorneys will sue you for your lack of hospitality. Then he'll cancel a good show to put on "I married a migidt millionaire who was beating me to death, until he was unexpectedly and fatally mauled by a deer who would not stop showing her coochie." It's really that last part the worries me.
Marrakech II
03-07-2005, 10:09
I don't see a problem here. People are exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of the press to report something that could or could not be true. Have they entered into the US via Canada? Who knows.

Can't take a little criticism. *shrugs shoulders* I'm more worried about our southern border with Mexico than the northern border anyway but I should be concerned about the Canadian border due too the lax immigration laws Canada has.


Canadian immigration laws are lax from what i have heard. The northren and southren borders need to be better controlled. However one thing I dont think Bush is doing a good job of is the borders. I would build border security on Mexican border that would make the East Germans proud. Canadian border needs more monitoring that is for sure. Maybe sensors and ariel drones would help.
Dobbsworld
03-07-2005, 10:19
Canadian immigration laws are lax from what i have heard. The northren and southren borders need to be better controlled. However one thing I dont think Bush is doing a good job of is the borders. I would build border security on Mexican border that would make the East Germans proud. Canadian border needs more monitoring that is for sure. Maybe sensors and ariel drones would help.

Great. Go for it. While you're at it, would you mind just removing Canada and Mexico from maps of North America? Y'know, like the old American geography textbooks from the mid-60s that just had ocean where Cuba was supposed to be?

We could handle it if you slapped up a seven-storey wall across the continent and just didn't talk to your kids about what's behind it. Really.
Panhandlia
03-07-2005, 13:06
Fox Report is good. Shepard Smith has got to be the best Fox News Reporter there is.
The worst show on FoxNews, overall, is much better than the best offerings by CNN/NBC/MSNBC/CNBC/PBS/ABC/C-BS.
[NS]Canada City
03-07-2005, 13:08
Wow, our ambassador to the US is really p***ed off at Fox. And so do I. :mad:

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/02/mckenna-fox050702.html

Any thoughts?

I admit that they do lie a little too much about Canada (Bill said we were bankrupted).

However, don't make it sound like we didn't do this to ourselves. We've been dicking around for the past decade and I am not surprised that we are no longer a 'major player' in the field. We are a joke now.
Armandian Cheese
03-07-2005, 13:39
Canada City']I admit that they do lie a little too much about Canada (Bill said we were bankrupted).

However, don't make it sound like we didn't do this to ourselves. We've been dicking around for the past decade and I am not surprised that we are no longer a 'major player' in the field. We are a joke now.
He said the military was bankrupted.
Corneliu
03-07-2005, 15:24
He said the military was bankrupted.

And it still is :D
FoxTopia
10-07-2005, 14:33
The worst show on FoxNews, overall, is much better than the best offerings by CNN/NBC/MSNBC/CNBC/PBS/ABC/C-BS.

Can i have some of the "questionable legality" drugs you've been, so obviously, taking? Thanks :D
FoxTopia
11-07-2005, 08:06
The worst show on FoxNews, overall, is much better than the best offerings by CNN/NBC/MSNBC/CNBC/PBS/ABC/C-BS.


Can i have some of the "questionable legality" drugs you've been, so obviously, taking? Thanks :D

AFTERTHOUGH:

unless, of course, you're talking about it just being so insanly rediculous that it's comedy, in which case it's definatly right up there with the Daily Show.