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Liberal policies are not always right, nor are Conservative policies always right. Anyone who thinks otherwise is rigidly stupid.

Liberals do not attack others more than Conservatives, nor do Conservatives attack others more. Liberals percieve Conservatives as attacking more often, because they sub-consciously see attacks against Conservatives as justified, therefore, not wrong. And vice-versa for Conservatives.

Social welfare hurts economic growth (such as with the "iron law of wages"). But economic growth does not provide for the poor. If it did, then America would not have a poverty rate twice that of France, despite having an economy that grows five times as fast.

You show great wisdom. My Republican buddy Don and I came to the same conclusions over beers at Bill's Olde Tavern once.

Liberal policies are not always right, nor are Conservative policies always right. Anyone who thinks otherwise is rigidly stupid.

Liberals do not attack others more than Conservatives, nor do Conservatives attack others more. Liberals percieve Conservatives as attacking more often, because they sub-consciously see attacks against Conservatives as justified, therefore, not wrong. And vice-versa for Conservatives.

Social welfare hurts economic growth (such as with the "iron law of wages"). But economic growth does not provide for the poor. If it did, then America would not have a poverty rate twice that of France, despite having an economy that grows five times as fast.
Well, I'm impressed. I thought for sure you'd be one of those people you call "rigidly stupid" after those innumerable threads about Bush, lying, etc. Turns out I was wrong, and probably owe you an apology. My bad.

Liberal policies are not always right, nor are Conservative policies always right. Anyone who thinks otherwise is rigidly stupid.

This has got to be the first accurate thing I've heard you spout on these forums.

Liberals do not attack others more than Conservatives, nor do Conservatives attack others more. Liberals percieve Conservatives as attacking more often, because they sub-consciously see attacks against Conservatives as justified, therefore, not wrong. And vice-versa for Conservatives.

Another accurate statement. I may have to rethink things about you.

Social welfare hurts economic growth (such as with the "iron law of wages"). But economic growth does not provide for the poor. If it did, then America would not have a poverty rate twice that of France, despite having an economy that grows five times as fast.

We also have more people than France so you can't actually compare poverty rates of both nations. France has a higher unemployment rate than that US btw.

We also have more people than France so you can't actually compare poverty rates of both nations. France has a higher unemployment rate than that US btw.

Well you do imprision almost 1% of your population. It's impossible to compare

w00t, another one comes to their senses.
Welcome to the minority, Shrub.

Liberal policies are not always right, nor are Conservative policies always right. Anyone who thinks otherwise is rigidly stupid.

Liberals do not attack others more than Conservatives, nor do Conservatives attack others more. Liberals percieve Conservatives as attacking more often, because they sub-consciously see attacks against Conservatives as justified, therefore, not wrong. And vice-versa for Conservatives.

Social welfare hurts economic growth (such as with the "iron law of wages"). But economic growth does not provide for the poor. If it did, then America would not have a poverty rate twice that of France, despite having an economy that grows five times as fast.

I bow to the judgment of President Shrub. It therefore follows that anyone caring ever so little for both economic growth & social welfare has to deftly strike a balance between corporate greed & :sniper: kill all ze poor!!! zey're hindering zi economy & breeding at full blast, multiplying like rats in my attic!

Maria

We also have more people than France so you can't actually compare poverty rates of both nations. France has a higher unemployment rate than that US btw.
yet they have a lower poverty rate...

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Refreshing

We also have more people than France so you can't actually compare poverty rates of both nations. France has a higher unemployment rate than that US btw.

Poverty rate is a %. In absolute number you have way more poor people.

unemployment rate is calculated differently in all nation, it's not really revelant

Ihatevacations']yet they have a lower poverty rate...
But is it sustainable? They have double digit unemployment and virtually no economic growth. How long will they be able to afford the programs that keep people from being poor?

Poverty rate is higher in the US because they lack the safety net we provide at great cost in France. Should we relax all imprisoned male Blacks in the US, the unemployment rate would treble at the very least.

Maria

But is it sustainable? They have double digit unemployment and virtually no economic growth. How long will they be able to afford the programs that keep people from being poor?


Of course it is sustainable, as long as income tax can be ratcheted up to the expense of the middle classes...

Maria

Of course it is sustainable, as long as income tax can be ratcheted up to the expense of the middle classes...

Maria

Higher Taxes=Less economic Spending=less economic Growth

Simple economics.

You don't say!

You don't say!

Think about it. If you raise taxes, people aren't going to buy as much as they used to. This means there's going to be less money flowing into businesses. Those Businesses that begin to lose money will lay people off to save money. Now your unemployment rate will go higher. :rolleyes:

And... why do you think I added 'as long as'?

And... why do you think I added 'as long as'?

There's only so much a person can take. Before long, you'll have a revolt on your hands. Just ask the British. They taxed America so much that America Revolted! :D

There's only so much a person can take. Before long, you'll have a revolt on your hands. Just ask the British. They taxed America so much that America Revolted! :D


I definitely agree. All the more so as the middle classes provide the most impetus. Not to mention the ghastly fact that all those tycoons & big shots siphon off their dough to those freaking Swiss accounts, that taxes on personal property aren't on a par with those on real estate, etc.

Maria

I definitely agree. All the more so as the middle classes provide the most impetus. Not to mention the ghastly fact that all those tycoons & big shots carry siphon off their dough to those freaking Swiss accounts, that taxes on personal property aren't on a par with those on real estate, etc.

Maria

Glad to see we are in agreement. Have a pleasant Day/Afternoon :)

I definitely agree. All the more so as the middle classes provide the most impetus. Not to mention the ghastly fact that all those tycoons & big shots carry siphon off their dough to those freaking Swiss accounts, that taxes on personal property aren't on a par with those on real estate, etc.

Maria

Just another example of different countrys having different agendas. France wants to feed the poor, but can't defend them. Americans are safer than most, yet our poor are without any hope. There has to be a better way!

Just another example of different countrys having different agendas. France wants to feed the poor, but can't defend them. Americans are safer than most, yet our poor are without any hope. There has to be a better way!

For the time being, France is mired in domestic politics, especially concerning unemployment (10.2 % according to official surveys). Fortunately our welfare benefits are about as high as America's lowest wages, so that clinches the matter...