NationStates Jolt Archive


A plague upon society?

Fenrisian Monks
02-07-2005, 12:40
Every day there is yet another report of some yob or gang of yobs attacking someone for no other reason than 'for kicks'. The current trend for 'happy slapping' is getting way out of hand! Any ideas as to how this can be stopped?

My suggestions would be:
Better policing to crack down on them.
Compulsory Military service to teach em respect.

And why, in this country, are kids who are basically thugs treated better than the kids that are actually ok? I am refering to the social work mentality of buying them treats and stuff for being 'good' (which is still 'bad' but seen as good relative to their normal behaviour)
Undelia
02-07-2005, 12:50
Just be glad they aren’t shooting at each other.
BlackKnight_Poet
02-07-2005, 12:55
Send them to work as street performers. :D j/k

Seriously that is some problem as you cannot just lock them all up.
Fenrisian Monks
02-07-2005, 12:56
Just be glad they aren’t shooting at each other.

Fair point.

However, this happy slapping is getting way out of hand - just recently, 3 schoolboys raped a girl from their school while recording it on their mobile phone.

Also, a guy was beaten to death by a group of youths because he was a non-smoker and didnt have a light!

Something needs to be done and the law isnt doing it.

Vigilante groups will be next - and I will support them if it gets the job done!
Monkeypimp
02-07-2005, 13:24
Tell the parents to control their idiot kids?
The White Hats
02-07-2005, 13:34
Monitor all mobile 'phone transmissions. Any scenes of happy slapping that are detected trigger an automatic burst of high energy radio waves to the transmitting 'phone, frying its electrics and hopefully making it burst into flames in the sender's pocket.
Undelia
02-07-2005, 13:37
Tell the parents to control their idiot kids?

Seconded.

Monitor all mobile 'phone transmissions. Any scenes of happy slapping that are detected trigger an automatic burst of high energy radio waves to the transmitting 'phone, frying its electrics and hopefully making it burst into flames in the sender's pocket.

Thus castrating the little hooligans. Ha ha. Social Darwinism at work. Brilliant!
Non Aligned States
02-07-2005, 13:40
Well, eventually if it keeps up long enough, we will probably see vigilante groups alright. With mortality rates on those who get caught being rather high. Then we'll see action. But it will probably be on the wrong side.
E Blackadder
02-07-2005, 13:41
Wipe out yob culture....get a free death sentance with every asbo

Chavs: the problems of the future, today!
The Similized world
02-07-2005, 14:35
Wipe out yob culture....get a free death sentance with every asbo

Chavs: the problems of the future, today!
If I were a Brit, that last line would go straight in my sig.

I can't say I know a lot about the problem, but I think we have similar problems here. I think giving them work would help. There's nothing like money, a mean boss and a sense of accomplishment to set your head straight.
Drunk commies deleted
02-07-2005, 14:51
Take the law into your own hands. Arm yourself with whatever you have available, get together with some friends, ride the subway or tube or whatever you guys call it pretending you and your friends don't know each other. When a gang of "happy slappers" approaches one of you everyone in your group suddenly pulls out their weapons and beats the hell out of those little punks.
Willamena
02-07-2005, 15:28
When they do it, punch them in the face, and let their friends record *that*. And then punch them in the face, too. It'll stop soon enough.

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Dontgonearthere
02-07-2005, 16:35
Y'see, what you do is record that beating, then by some air time on every radio station in town, and replay that recording over and over.
Drunk commies deleted
02-07-2005, 16:40
BTW, what's a Yob?
Dontgonearthere
02-07-2005, 17:08
BTW, what's a Yob?
Wikipedia redirects to 'Hooligan', so I would assume it means a young miscreant. :D
Begark
02-07-2005, 17:13
Just be glad they aren’t shooting at each other.

I will absolutely not be glad about this, because the only reason they're not is due to the illegality of firearms in this pussy nation, which would rather spend tax money on illiterate yobs with absolutely no desire for self-improvement than committing funding to working on gifting youngsters, schools in general, the NHS, etc. etc..

But if we were legally allowed to carry guns, it would mean we could actually defend ourselves. Whilst one person against eight has an inevitable outcome if only melee weapons are involved, things get a bit tricker with guns.

If vigilante groups step up, I'll be the first to support them.
Fionnia
02-07-2005, 17:25
Am I the only one who sees the terrible similarities between this and A Clockwork Orange. Think about it. Groups of young men running around the streets with a penchant for taking pleasure in destruction and the pain of others. And if we are to follow the ideas of A Clockwork Orange then the only way to stop this type of behavior is to eliminate the desire in the person who is commiting these atrocious acts.

Of course this would lead more into the realm of Brave New World and the ideas of hypnopeadic brainwashing and may be a little extreme for the rest of society.
Begark
02-07-2005, 17:28
Am I the only one who sees the terrible similarities between this and A Clockwork Orange. Think about it. Groups of young men running around the streets with a penchant for taking pleasure in destruction and the pain of others. And if we are to follow the ideas of A Clockwork Orange then the only way to stop this type of behavior is to eliminate the desire in the person who is commiting these atrocious acts.

Of course this would lead more into the realm of Brave New World and the ideas of hypnopeadic brainwashing and may be a little extreme for the rest of society.

As long as I got to be a World Controller, I'd be quite happy with that plan.

I didn't draw that parallel at first, but it does actually kinda stick now that it's been raised... hrm...
Drunk commies deleted
02-07-2005, 17:29
I will absolutely not be glad about this, because the only reason they're not is due to the illegality of firearms in this pussy nation, which would rather spend tax money on illiterate yobs with absolutely no desire for self-improvement than committing funding to working on gifting youngsters, schools in general, the NHS, etc. etc..

But if we were legally allowed to carry guns, it would mean we could actually defend ourselves. Whilst one person against eight has an inevitable outcome if only melee weapons are involved, things get a bit tricker with guns.

If vigilante groups step up, I'll be the first to support them.
Who was it that said "an armed society is a polite society"?
Hyridian
02-07-2005, 17:51
Who was it that said "an armed society is a polite society"?

well...we need to elimate the idiots of todays society. to do this we must take up arms, shoot all of our neighbors and declare ourselves ruler of the world......oh wait....we are.

Then we would have our selves a nice little polite society.

bad j/k :D
Begark
02-07-2005, 17:52
Who was it that said "an armed society is a polite society"?

I don't know, but he can consider his hand thoroughly shaken.
Zweites
02-07-2005, 18:38
Who was it that said "an armed society is a polite society"?
Robert A. Heinlein
Sarkasis
02-07-2005, 18:56
Move to Canada.
DHomme
02-07-2005, 19:26
Don't you love daily mail readers?
Begark
02-07-2005, 20:04
Robert A. Heinlein

Every time I discover something about that man I think higher of him.
The Downmarching Void
02-07-2005, 20:48
As a reward for bad behaviour, take them for long walks off short peirs, repeat until they all drown.

But seriously, the last time hooliganism was a huge problem, vast amounts of E seemed to change attitudes nicely. Maybe these bastards just need a little love? Or maybe a hope of something decent in life? Slapping cuffs on them and throwing them in jail won't solve the problem (long walks off short piers will, but wouldn't go over too well). How about sentencing them to chain gangs? Ones with good begaviour get to go on to a real job, get some training and education and hopefully, mend their ways. But there'd have to be zero-tolerance for breaking any rules or laws. Its a half-assed solution, but it'd probably work better than whats already in place.
Non Aligned States
03-07-2005, 03:22
As a reward for bad behaviour, take them for long walks off short peirs, repeat until they all drown.

But seriously, the last time hooliganism was a huge problem, vast amounts of E seemed to change attitudes nicely. Maybe these bastards just need a little love? Or maybe a hope of something decent in life? Slapping cuffs on them and throwing them in jail won't solve the problem (long walks off short piers will, but wouldn't go over too well). How about sentencing them to chain gangs? Ones with good begaviour get to go on to a real job, get some training and education and hopefully, mend their ways. But there'd have to be zero-tolerance for breaking any rules or laws. Its a half-assed solution, but it'd probably work better than whats already in place.

For the first solution, its called sleeping with the fishes. Very effective means of ending bad behavior =p

But as for the 2nd, you just need to be able to get these thugs up on assault charges and long jail sentences where they end up breaking rocks. Do it often enough and when word gets around, the happy slapping culture will die a natural death.

At the moment, I don't think anyone is charging them on anything. Much less catching them.