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For me he has all chances, alltough the other competitors are a bit better then most of the 6 years in wich there was really a lack of quality in the Tour.
Lance is not as good as he was against the clock (can be descisive).
But since he is probably the best prepared one,compared to the others that are found during the year at the greatest races and other famous Tours like the Giro.(remember that the best cyclists saw the Giro like we see the Tour now until the mid seventies, that is why the greatest cyclist ever, Eddy Merckx didn't participate in 1973 but choose Giro, Vuelta and one them (off course))
I give Armstrong the best chances. Perhaps a Vinokourov can be the chalenger instead of the eternal promise Ullrich. Forget Basso.

...It's time for the Tour de France AGAIN?

Jesus, how many times a year does this race go?

...It's time for the Tour de France AGAIN?

Jesus, how many times a year does this race go?

Once every two weeks :)

Vinokourov, nobody one their last participation in a Tour (Annquetil till Indurain). But Lance has the chance that he cycles in a very weak generation.

Lance will win it. That was an obvious answer.

Armstrong - he knows whats up

Lance will win it. That was an obvious answer.
Since you're from San Fransisco, I guess that you'r answer is based on nationalistic feelings instead of sportive arguments. Or do you have a special reason, why you think he'll win again, I think that it is not that obvious to win it seven times. OK he has the advantage of having no real good concurents like in Merckx time but I guess if he does not win the "contre la montre" against "Vino", he will get it very difficult in the mountains.

Ahhhh, we'll see, it is a great athlete and remember, a guy that won against cancer..hat of.

Since you're from San Fransisco, I guess that you'r answer is based on nationalistic feelings instead of sportive arguments. Or do you have a special reason, why you think he'll win again, I think that it is not that obvious to win it seven times. OK he has the advantage of having no real good concurents like in Merckx time but I guess if he does not win the "contre la montre" against "Vino", he will get it very difficult in the mountains.

Ahhhh, we'll see, it is a great athlete and remember, a guy that won against cancer..hat of.

Didn't people say that the other six times?

Lance will win, no contest.

Didn't people say that the other six times?
Not me.
But people say it everytime and look for other names, just like in other sports.
He was good in Dauphiné Liberé, but not that good in the mountains there, last month, curious to see if his form will still improve. Must be, after all he has the best director and mechanics, Johan Bruyneel and other Belgians (remember Merckx).

Come on Lance!! Lets piss off those Europeans one last time!!

Lance has no contemporary rivals. That's how he's been able to compile his six in a row. Every year we hear how Ullrich is going to unseat him, and every year Ullrich chokes.

I haven't been paying attention this year because it's lost my attention, having Lance win every year. Maybe this Vinokourov guy can win. I sure hope so. It was fun to see an American go and take three, four Tours in a row, but he's starting to turn into the Yankees. And I hate the Yankees.

I'd like to see someone else win it this year, maybe Ulrich.

Come on Lance!! Lets piss off those Europeans one last time!!

Wow, you're an asshole.
Hop with the velo, Lance!

Armstrong will win. And then he’ll come back to the states and screw the women he left his wife for with his one testicle. Even though said wife stuck with him through the cancer witch led to his uni balled condition. Who cares about her. Lance is a celebrity now. He needs to be dating movie stars! She isn’t good enough for him anymore.

Seriously, does anybody else find this guy reprehensible.

Armstrong will win. And then he’ll come back to the states and screw the women he left his wife for with his one testicle. Even though said wife stuck with him through the cancer witch led to his uni balled condition. Who cares about her. Lance is a celebrity now. He needs to be dating movie stars! She isn’t good enough for him anymore.

Seriously, does anybody else find this guy reprehensible.

His wife left him.

Colodia, don't you mean the Tour de Lance? :D

Anyway, Lance Armstrong should win it again for the 7th time. Come on Lance. Win one more for the Red White and Blue.

GO LANCE GO! GO LANCE GO!

His wife left him.

Then I have been grossly misinformed. Care to provide a link?

Then I have been grossly misinformed. Care to provide a link?

I would love to, but unfortunately my searching has just yielded several "page cannot be found" news reports. :( It seems that most news services have eliminated the article from their sites. I will continue to search, but until then, I will retract my statement, as I cannot currently prove it beyond my own memory of news reports at the time.

Colodia, don't you mean the Tour de Lance? :D

Anyway, Lance Armstrong should win it again for the 7th time. Come on Lance. Win one more for the Red White and Blue.

GO LANCE GO! GO LANCE GO!

Strange that some assholes try to make a nationalistic thing about each topic :D , or try to provocate others, lucky enough my West Eu colleges are real sportfans and aware of cycling instead of spreading such nonsense.(Ever heared about Merckx? he participated and won all races, whole year round, some levels higher then Lance, BTW Lance is often at Eddy's place).

Hup Lance, kick them in the balls :D and go for it.
A east EU fan

Strange that some assholes try to make a nationalistic thing about each topic :D , or try to provocate others, lucky enough my West Eu colleges are real sportfans and aware of cycling instead of spreading such nonsense.(Ever heared about Merckx? he participated and won all races, whole year round, some levels higher then Lance, BTW Lance is often at Eddy's place).

Hup Lance, kick them in the balls :D and go for it.
A east EU fan

Wait! Because I am supporting Lance I turned into something nationalistic? He is an American as am I so I have the right to say win it for the Red White and Blue. It isn't nationalistic, just a statement of fact.

Wow, you're an #######.
Hop with the velo, Lance!

um...could you please repeat that word in a different spelling? i hate my browser when it does this....

um...could you please repeat that word in a different spelling? i hate my browser when it does this....
"Arsehole."

It doesn't matter whether Lance wins or not, the Tour is always an exciting race. Sure as hell a lot better than watching an auto "sport" where cars drive around in circles for a long time, a la NASCAR. :rolleyes:

The sad part is I've actually met some retarded fools who actually believed that football or baseball was more athletic than cycling. Mm hm. I'd like to see some jock musclehead NFL star or some arrogant baseball player (the pitcher from the Texas Rangers that attacked two cameramen in one day would be my personal choice) ride a bike up a steep incline like l'Alpe d'Huez at a 7.9% gradient.

"Arsehole."

It doesn't matter whether Lance wins or not, the Tour is always an exciting race. Sure as hell a lot better than watching an auto "sport" where cars drive around in circles for a long time, a la NASCAR. :rolleyes:

The sad part is I've actually met some retarded fools who actually believed that football or baseball was more athletic than cycling. Mm hm. I'd like to see some jock musclehead NFL star or some arrogant baseball player (the pitcher from the Texas Rangers that attacked two cameramen in one day would be my personal choice) ride a bike up a steep incline like l'Alpe d'Huez at a 7.9% gradient.

ah, thanks man. did you know that cycling is often compared to nascar? i also think that football is a ladies sport. European rugby needs to become more popular in the states, then those meatheads that play football can say their real athleats

Wait! Because I am supporting Lance I turned into something nationalistic? He is an American as am I so I have the right to say win it for the Red White and Blue. It isn't nationalistic, just a statement of fact.
wow, I'll have to agree with you on that one. GO LANCE!!! :D

Well, the Tour is allready done since Lance set his rivals allready at almost 1 minute distance. :rolleyes: Hope the mountains bring some exitement.

Well, the Tour is allready done since Lance set his rivals allready at almost 1 minute distance. :rolleyes: Hope the mountains bring some exitement.

Armstrong will win. And then he’ll come back to the states and screw the women he left his wife for with his one testicle. Even though said wife stuck with him through the cancer witch led to his uni balled condition. Who cares about her. Lance is a celebrity now. He needs to be dating movie stars! She isn’t good enough for him anymore.

Seriously, does anybody else find this guy reprehensible.
I love that term.

Armstrong will win. And then he’ll come back to the states and screw the women he left his wife for with his one testicle. Even though said wife stuck with him through the cancer witch led to his uni balled condition. Who cares about her. Lance is a celebrity now. He needs to be dating movie stars! She isn’t good enough for him anymore.

Seriously, does anybody else find this guy reprehensible.

My info is exactly what yours is. He left her. I've seen him ride, but yeah, he disgusts me in that way. When I saw him w/Sheryl Crow I wanted to puke. :rolleyes:

Stage 2 of the Tour de France starts in 8 minutes! Go Lance Go!

I take that back. Stage 2 is already complete and the winner of the stage is Boonen in 3hr 51.31 seconds.

Followed by Hushovd and McEwan!

It is still Zabriskie over Lance by 2 seconds for the yellow shirt.

starts in 8 minutes!

Euh, they allready arived. Tom Boonen was the fastest man in the sprint and Ullrich and Vinokourov took some seconds of their delay to Lance (but nont enough to wury him).

Euh, they allready arived. Tom Boonen was the fastest man in the sprint and Ullrich and Vinokourov took some seconds of their delay to Lance (but nont enough to wury him).

Well.... I'm in America so we don't get live coverage :D

Anyway, I have computer to keep me updated :)

He'll win again, cause this is all he prepares for each year. Unlike the others who compete in other big events round the World, Armstrong trains specifically just for the Tour de France and so peaks perfectly for it. His time trials last month show that. He didn't do that great (wll not great for him), but it was a month before the Tour, and even he said he hadn't peaked yet.
Also he has an extremely good team backing him up. Their whole purpose is to ensure he wins. They slipstream him up the hills and attempt to block other riders from overtaking him.
If it was an true individual event, I doubt he would have won 6 in a row.
Don't take this to mean I'm dissing him btw. He's still one of the greatest athletes ever. I was just pointing out that he's not riding alone there. Which is why he'll win again.

As an aside, I loved his cameo in 'Dodgeball'.

Lance Armstrong: Hey, aren't you Peter La Fleur?
Peter La Fleur: Lance Armstrong!
Lance Armstrong: Ya, that's me. But I'm a big fan of yours.
Peter La Fleur: Really?
Lance Armstrong: Ya, I've been watching the dodgeball tournament on the Ocho. ESPN 8. I just can't get enough of it. Good luck in the tournament. I'm really pulling for you against those jerks from Globo Gym. I think you better hurry up or you're gonna be late.
Peter La Fleur: Uh, actually I decided to quit... Lance.
Lance Armstrong: Quit? You know, once I was thinking of quitting when I was diagnosed with brain, lung and testicular cancer all at the same time. But with the love and support of my friends and family, I got back on the bike and won the Tour de France five times in a row. But I'm sure you have a good reason to quit. So what are you dying of that's keeping you from the finals?
Peter La Fleur: Right now it feels a little bit like... shame.
Lance Armstrong: Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they wouldn't anything to regret for the rest of their life. Well good luck to you Peter. I'm sure this decision won't haunt you forever.

Well.... I'm in America so we don't get live coverage :D

Anyway, I have computer to keep me updated :)

I predict another 1 minute win of Lance on Ullrich and Vino the day after tommorow, then it is against the chrono with the whole team :) Not the most exiting part of a tour but it alllways creates (big) differences.

Well.... I'm in America so we don't get live coverage :D

Anyway, I have computer to keep me updated :)

Corneliu, I just went to the official site of the Tour organisation and found for the US the next for Tour coverage on their site:

http://www.olntv.com/tdf
from: http://www.letour.fr/

(French, English, German, Spanish)

Corneliu, I just went to the official site of the Tour organisation and found for the US the next for Tour coverage on their site:

http://www.olntv.com/tdf
from: http://www.letour.fr/

(French, English, German, Spanish)

I'm watching it there now :D

Not me.
But people say it everytime and look for other names, just like in other sports.
He was good in Dauphiné Liberé, but not that good in the mountains there, last month, curious to see if his form will still improve. Must be, after all he has the best director and mechanics, Johan Bruyneel and other Belgians (remember Merckx).
Lance has never been that stellar at the mountain stages. The only 2 places where other riders can really catch him are the mounrtain stages and the time trials. He was only 2 seconds off of the leader in the Prologue. When you see the tape of him starting you see that his foot clip came off of the pedal, probably losing him at least a second of momentum, if not more. Ullrich, who's only chance at beating Lance is kicking his ass at the time trials since he isn't a strong mountain guy either, was behind by a full minute and 6 seconds. Not a good start for him. The guy who beat him in the pro. isn't really known for anything else but his time trial abilities. Lance is in a very, very strong position right now. As an aside, does anyone find it hilarious how the French pulled Lance aside for another drug test a full 12 hours after the field-wide test? They have yet to actually find evidence of anything at all, but they want to pin drug use on his performance so badly it's funny. Sad, but funny.

As an aside, I loved his cameo in 'Dodgeball'.

Lance Armstrong: Quit? You know, once I was thinking of quitting when I was diagnosed with brain, lung and testicular cancer all at the same time. But with the love and support of my friends and family, I got back on the bike and won the Tour de France five times in a row. But I'm sure you have a good reason to quit. So what are you dying of that's keeping you from the finals?
.

Shame on you Demented Hamster, as a American you should know that "The Boss" won 6 times in a row. ;)

Shame on you Demented Hamster, as a American you should know that "The Boss" won 6 times in a row. ;)
I believe that was filmed before his sixth tour. Not sure however.

Armstrong will win. And then he’ll come back to the states and screw the women he left his wife for with his one testicle. Even though said wife stuck with him through the cancer witch led to his uni balled condition. Who cares about her. Lance is a celebrity now. He needs to be dating movie stars! She isn’t good enough for him anymore.

Seriously, does anybody else find this guy reprehensible.

Because he lost a ball? :confused:

;)

Lance has never been that stellar at the mountain stages. The only 2 places where other riders can really catch him are the mounrtain stages and the time trials. .

Don't agree, Lance is one of the best in time trials like Indurain was. He is very good in the mountains and alltough not the best there, wins stages to there ;) . That + the great team from Bruyneel make him controlling the Tour without the need to win more then 1 or 2 stages (that is what I find pitty, Merckx won 6/8 stages in each Tour...)

. As an aside, does anyone find it hilarious how the French pulled Lance aside for another drug test a full 12 hours after the field-wide test? They have you to actually find evidence of anything at all, but they want to pin drug use on his performance so badly it's funny. Sad, but funny.
That is very low towards the French direction of the tour and the non Tour controlers of the International cycling federation that has nothing to do with the Tour. You can say the same about Ullrich or the French Thomas Voeckler (yellow jersey during 12 days, last year) that were controlled more often then Lance...(just to name a few).

Stop your French hate and try to see the facts instead of following Fox provocative hate.
Anyway, Lance seems to be a American with higer moral standards then unfactual provocations. His favorite race is the Tour, followed by the Dauphiné Liberé, both French and one of his best friends is Flemish Eddy Merckx, Eddy or Mr. Cycling himself together with Jean Marie Leblanc...(French)

Stop your French hate and try to see the facts instead of following Fox provocative hate.
Actually it's not French hate. The italians have pulled the same shit and tried to have him appear before one of their courts without disclosing the details of the charges. It has to do with a bunch of whiny bastards who are pissed their guy isn't winning and would rather believe that Lance was doping than able to get where he is on natural ability. Less to do with nationality. If I had been mentioning it specifically with animosity toward the french I would have tossed in the obligatory cheese-eating surrender monkeys slur.

Actually it's not French hate. The italians have pulled the same shit and tried to have him appear before one of their courts without disclosing the details of the charges. It has to do with a bunch of whiny bastards who are pissed their guy isn't winning and would rather believe that Lance was doping than able to get where he is on natural ability. Less to do with nationality. .

Blablabla, full of hate and shit. The Italian question has to do with one of Lances doctors and one of Lances friends that is in fact Mr Doping himself, Dr Ferrari. Having Lance during years as a patient does not make one immune before justice when you are a smugled cocaine derivates and other illegal drugs/doping. Ferrari is now proven guilty for smugling cocaine, doping and selling & using those drugs for sporters. So Dr Ferrari is rightfully questioned by the Belgian, Swiss and Italian justice.

Some people say 1+1=2 in that story so Lance is doped to. That goes to far for me because I allways have been one that speeks about facts not about assumptions (like you here). In cycling there are still lots of medical doctors that don't see the diffrence between medical training and doping. Lance is innocent until facts counterspeak me, Dr Ferrari not, he is convicted and Lance was angry about that. He better was not, having Mr Doping out of the race is best for those boys, friendship with Lance or not.

After speaking with Bruyneel and Merckx, Lance made the best desision and broke all contact with Ferrari, but to late, damage for his image was done.

And that are the facts about Dr. Ferrari and Lance (wich does not have to stand justice in Italy and is not inquired in this case).

Another justice thing in Italy is the one in wich Lance insulted a cyclist, Simeoni, and threatened him physicly last Tour. Almost 99% of the people that were their in hearingdistance, when it took place confirm this, including US teammates. But the Italian guy should have knowed better that Lance did not have them in a row in his head, that moment instead of bringing it to court, this is Europe, not the US in wich such things are brought daily for court (to make money out of it).

I would say with a "Go Lance", that he has nothing to do with the first case and the second case is a non case that should have been dealt with under gentlemen instead by justice. With a simple sorry of Lance, the Italian guy would have droped charges.

Bis repetita for Tom Boonen!!! :)
Fastest man in the Tour.