NationStates Jolt Archive


I joined the Republican Party, but not for the reasons you'd expect

Vodka Bob
30-06-2005, 23:06
For several weeks I have been contemplating the idea of joining the Republican party. I eventually did, however it isn't for the reasons you would think. I joined not because they share any of my values or principles, but because I think I have a better chance of being heard. I seem to fit in with RLC, but I plan to not vote according to party line, but rather issue by issue.
I plan to take political science and economics in college. What would you have done?
The Black Forrest
30-06-2005, 23:09
For several weeks I have been contemplating the idea of joining the Republican party. I eventually did, however it isn't for the reasons you would think. I joined not because they share any of my values or principles, but because I think I have a better chance of being heard. I seem to fit in with RLC, but I plan to not vote according to party line, but rather issue by issue.
I plan to take political science and economics in college. What would you have done?

Why do you think they will listen because you are in the party.

They listen to big bank accounts.

Before anybody bitches. The demos do the same.
Keruvalia
30-06-2005, 23:10
Bring 'em down from the inside! Run for RNC chair ASAP and give them all a nice Guayana Punch.
Vodka Bob
30-06-2005, 23:12
Why do you think they will listen because you are in the party.

They listen to big bank accounts.

Before anybody bitches. The demos do the same.
In American politics if you want to run for office or any thing of the sort, then joining a party gives you a better chance.
Revionia
30-06-2005, 23:12
I would have joined the anarchist Black Bloc and burned stuff!
Drunk commies deleted
30-06-2005, 23:14
I'm actually registered as a republican. When I was 18 and became eligible to vote I was listening to a lot of Rush Limbaugh and not reading/listening to/watching very much actual news. Since then my views have changed, but I haven't gotten around to re-registering as an independant.
Revionia
30-06-2005, 23:16
I'm actually registered as a republican. When I was 18 and became eligible to vote I was listening to a lot of Rush Limbaugh and not reading/listening to/watching very much actual news. Since then my views have changed, but I haven't gotten around to re-registering as an independant.

Whoa? How did you go from that to a Communist?

I was a Communist from the start.
Swimmingpool
30-06-2005, 23:17
Why do you think they will listen because you are in the party.
I can think of one advantage for him: he can vote for moderates in primaries.
Sarkasis
30-06-2005, 23:17
I'm actually registered as a republican. When I was 18 and became eligible to vote I was listening to a lot of Rush Limbaugh and not reading/listening to/watching very much actual news. Since then my views have changed, but I haven't gotten around to re-registering as an independant.
What's that thing about registration, I don't get it. Does it mean that you're member of the party, or that you must make your allegiance public?
I am not American so there are things about US politics I don't have a clue about... :confused:
Drunk commies deleted
30-06-2005, 23:18
Whoa? How did you go from that to a Communist?

I was a Communist from the start.
I'm liberal, but not really a communist. I beleive in well regulated capitalism.
Swimmingpool
30-06-2005, 23:19
Whoa? How did you go from that to a Communist?

I was a Communist from the start.
Umm, Drunk Commies isn't actually a communist!
Drunk commies deleted
30-06-2005, 23:19
What's that thing about registration, I don't get it. Does it mean that you're member of the party, or that you must make your allegiance public?
I am not American so there are things about US politics I don't have a clue about... :confused:
It means that I'm able to vote in Republican primary elections. Primaries are when the party chooses which person will represent them in the actual election. Like when Dean, Kerry, Sharpton, and the rest were running against each other to see who would get the Democratic nomination to run against Bush in the real election.
Revionia
30-06-2005, 23:20
I'm personally against political parties; it creates a party elite and leaders that are alienated from their followers many times acting in their own interests. The political party becomes its own beaucractic machine in the hands of the elite no matter what ideology.

I believe in people power; direct action groups, organized federations of like minded individuals wanting to make a change, but then again, such a system would not work in the American political system.

One reason why I'm an Anarcho-Communist.
Vodka Bob
30-06-2005, 23:20
I can think of one advantage for him: he can vote for moderates in primaries.
That is true, but I vote more according to economic issues.
Cannot think of a name
30-06-2005, 23:20
Why do you think they will listen because you are in the party.

They listen to big bank accounts.

Before anybody bitches. The demos do the same.
In today's world it's 'One dollar, one vote.' Sad, really...
Swimmingpool
30-06-2005, 23:21
I believe in people power; direct action groups, organized federations of like minded individuals wanting to make a change
That's exactly what political parties are! (Or, what they are supposed to be.)
Sarkasis
30-06-2005, 23:22
It means that I'm able to vote in Republican primary elections. Primaries are when the party chooses which person will represent them in the actual election. Like when Dean, Kerry, Sharpton, and the rest were running against each other to see who would get the Democratic nomination to run against Bush in the real election.
Thanks. It makes more sense for me now!

Reminds me that I should renew my membership in a certain provincial party.....
Vodka Bob
30-06-2005, 23:22
That's exactly what political parties are! (Or, what they are supposed to be.)
In design yes, in practice no.
Revionia
30-06-2005, 23:24
What I meant is something more on the lines of the Anarchist Black Blocs, no hierarchy, since hierarchy only corrupts "the party".
Revionia
30-06-2005, 23:27
See at the moment, I see these overbloated parties run by rich politicans who claim to be working in the name of the people; even the 'Communist' Party acts like this. Extremely beucractic as well; I want grassroots organizations, people in neighborhoods coming together putting their trust in each other, not some party leader or president.
Vodka Bob
30-06-2005, 23:37
See at the moment, I see these overbloated parties run by rich politicans who claim to be working in the name of the people; even the 'Communist' Party acts like this. Extremely beucractic as well; I want grassroots organizations, people in neighborhoods coming together putting their trust in each other, not some party leader or president.
Unfortunately, they can be just as bureaucratic and power-hungry, but I understand your point. The parties represent their own interests.
Corneliu
01-07-2005, 00:13
I'm actually registered as a republican. When I was 18 and became eligible to vote I was listening to a lot of Rush Limbaugh and not reading/listening to/watching very much actual news. Since then my views have changed, but I haven't gotten around to re-registering as an independant.

You do realize that if you do do that, you won't be able to vote in state primaries (unless its an open primary that is)

To the originator of this thread, I would've done the exact same thing. :)

As for voting for moderates, that's also accurate.
Corneliu
01-07-2005, 00:14
It means that I'm able to vote in Republican primary elections. Primaries are when the party chooses which person will represent them in the actual election. Like when Dean, Kerry, Sharpton, and the rest were running against each other to see who would get the Democratic nomination to run against Bush in the real election.

Yea but if you switch to independant party DCD, you'll lose that chance to vote in the Primary unless it is an open primary where anyone can vote in.
Avia Takes Two
01-07-2005, 00:19
http://www.comedycentral.com/sitewide/media_player/play.jhtml?itemId=15868

about joining the republican party.

that is all.
Begark
01-07-2005, 02:42
All political parties end up like that, and all political groups will, unless they stop existing as soon as whatever agenda they are pushing has come to an end. And if they agree on more than one issue - which is all but inevitable - they'll form a more permanent group, and unless you believe it moral to break groups of people up, nothing to be done.
Liverbreath
01-07-2005, 02:51
For several weeks I have been contemplating the idea of joining the Republican party. I eventually did, however it isn't for the reasons you would think. I joined not because they share any of my values or principles, but because I think I have a better chance of being heard. I seem to fit in with RLC, but I plan to not vote according to party line, but rather issue by issue.
I plan to take political science and economics in college. What would you have done?

Well for whatever reason welcome aboard, as I had already said, I did so with a great deal of internal strife, but there was really no practical alternative. I am afraid though you will still find the situation largely a matter of picking candidates based on which is the lesser evil of the two, but if you are able to get someones attention give me a hollar, I'll be glad to listen!
Vodka Bob
01-07-2005, 03:07
Well for whatever reason welcome aboard, as I had already said, I did so with a great deal of internal strife, but there was really no practical alternative. I am afraid though you will still find the situation largely a matter of picking candidates based on which is the lesser evil of the two, but if you are able to get someones attention give me a hollar, I'll be glad to listen!
That is what politics is, isn't it, choosing the lesser evil? I joined for practicality. Thank you for the welcome.