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It seems the Mugabe controlled newspaper, the Herald of Zimbabwe, has unveiled a secret conspiracy by the US and UK to cause drought and famine in Zimbabwe using unspecified chemical agents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4630443.stm

Yeah, yeah, has the mass murder commenced yet? I mean, sheesh, we've obviously given him ample reason to, so why doesn't he start with it already. :rolleyes:

"A state-run newspaper in Zimbabwe has suggested the UK and US are to blame for droughts in southern Africa. "

First part of the article, LOL this propaganda is gold

Zimbabwe invades the Library of congress, finds weapons of mass description.

Thank goodness nothing else is going badly in Zimbabwe... :p

Reminds me of how North Korea tell it's people that the food aid it gets is "tribute" from other nations...

Yep, this'll cover about 100,000 executions. I'd say there are some nuts who believe him in the US...

It seems the Mugabe controlled newspaper, the Herald of Zimbabwe, has unveiled a secret conspiracy by the US and UK to cause drought and famine in Zimbabwe using unspecified chemical agents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4630443.stm
The article says weather was being manipulated for political gain using unspecified "unconventional" chemical weapons
Would this 'unconventional' chemical weapon be CO2? Sounds to me like Mugabe is twisting climate change to serve his own ends :(

This is bullshit. Typical mad dictator propaganda. I hope no one anywhere in the world takes it seriously.

This is bullshit. Typical mad dictator propaganda. I hope no one anywhere in the world takes it seriously.
In some parts of the world crazy conspiracy theories and psychotic propaganda pass for news.

In some parts of the world crazy conspiracy theories and psychotic propaganda pass for news.

Innit. Sometimes we pity you USA-nians. :D

Some people might ask why the fuck are we in Iraq? when such a blatent mad man is commiting mass murder on his own people.As far as i know Saddam is a far lesser evil.Then again there's not much oil to steal in Zimbabwe :headbang:

Some people might ask why the fuck are we in Iraq? when such a blatent mad man is commiting mass murder on his own people.As far as i know Saddam is a far lesser evil.Then again there's not much oil to steal in Zimbabwe :headbang:
Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.

Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.
Thank you! I've had to teach that lesson innumerable times on this forum.

Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.

My thanks to you, good sir!

I can display only amusement at the article in question. It saddens me that it turns people against some of the nations who might actually step up to help, but I just laugh when I see these things. Especially amusing is the apparent belief that the UK and US black ops divisions would inform a famine relief agency of what they're planning.

"unspecified "unconventional" chemical weapons.

pointed to the *possibility* of the weather being manipulated for political purposes."


Thats what I like, decisive, descriptive journalism. :rolleyes: :p

THe stupid bastard... I hate that dictator so much!

Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.

I don't know enough about the oil business to deny what you're saying, but if the U.S. and other industrialized nations continue to depend on oil, won't the value of the oil in Iraq increase over time?

Whether it's bizarre foreign plots to foil the revolution, or the depraved indifference of some bearded man sitting on a cloud, one thing's for sure:

A whole lotta people gonna die. Real soon.

"A state-run newspaper in Zimbabwe has suggested the UK and US are to blame for droughts in southern Africa. "

First part of the article, LOL this propaganda is gold


I didnt even know that technology was available, I suppose the clouds could have been seeded with dry ice before they reached Zimbabwe

Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.

Though the money for the Iraq War was put up by the tax payers, not the oil companies. They did not bank roll the war but did reap the benefits


(NB: Do not take the above as evidence that I give the "Blood for Oil" conspiracy credence.)

Yeah, yeah, has the mass murder commenced yet? I mean, sheesh, we've obviously given him ample reason to, so why doesn't he start with it already. :rolleyes:

I think it has already started...

http://www.africancrisis.org/photos16.asp

What... a load... of bull.

I wish the world would help us get rid of uncle bob and his mad hatter brigade. Most of my fellow Zimbabweans genuinely think that the only reason we have not been liberated is the lack of oil. Unfortunately we are too passive a country to revolt on our own.

Innit. Sometimes we pity you USA-nians. :D

Thanks. And you "The-ians" too. :D

It seems the Mugabe controlled newspaper, the Herald of Zimbabwe, has unveiled a secret conspiracy by the US and UK to cause drought and famine in Zimbabwe using unspecified chemical agents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4630443.stm

I expect to see the U.N General Assembly buy this line whole. After which, they will condemn the U.S. and Britain for it, and offer a resolution of support for Robert Mugabe's government-along with a big, fat, cheque and a bunch of food.

I wish the world would help us get rid of uncle bob and his mad hatter brigade. Most of my fellow Zimbabweans genuinely think that the only reason we have not been liberated is the lack of oil. Unfortunately we are too passive a country to revolt on our own.
You didn't used to be. what happened?

It seems the Mugabe controlled newspaper, the Herald of Zimbabwe, has unveiled a secret conspiracy by the US and UK to cause drought and famine in Zimbabwe using unspecified chemical agents.[/url]

There is a theory that particulate pollution from European vehicles caused the rain band to move in the 80's, resulting in the African droughts.

You didn't used to be. what happened?

I have lost heart in peaceful change back home.

Or maybe you ment we weren't always passive? Societies change, slowly but surely. Also keep in mind the social conflict in Zim is between the political eleit, beaurocracy (including the Army and police) and the underclasses on one side and the poor, working classes, professional classes and the ecconomic eleit on the other side - not exactly militant people.

There is a theory that particulate pollution from European vehicles caused the rain band to move in the 80's, resulting in the African droughts.

Um... so how about the prior droughts of the past 8000 years? ;)

Curses, our nefarious plot has been foiled! We'll have to resort to using the Solar Death Ray instead...

Dude, the money we've spent on Iraq up to this point is more than the money that Iraq's oil would have generated in the same ammount of time. Bush and his cabinet know that. Remember, he comes from an oil family. Cheney was CEO of Haliburton. They have some experience in the oil business. Clearly they didn't go in there for oil. It would have been more profitable to lable Saddam an ally and deal with him rather than try to overthrow him.

But they didn't expect the insurgency that emerged. Rumsfeld said it would last 6 months at the most when it first appeared, remember? Not its 6, 8, 10, 12 years. And before that they were expecting to be welcomed with candies from a jubilant thankful country.

They were expecting profit and a fairly quick battle from demoralized Iraqi troops and not expecting the costly long hard slog that they did get.

I also have to chuckle a bit at the idea of the US becoming friendly with Saddam. They tried that already 20 years ago :)

In some parts of the world crazy conspiracy theories and psychotic propaganda pass for news.

Irony - Containing, or resembling the metalic element Fe

I'm not sure why it seemed appropriate to mention this here, it just did.

I wish the world would help us get rid of uncle bob and his mad hatter brigade. Most of my fellow Zimbabweans genuinely think that the only reason we have not been liberated is the lack of oil. Unfortunately we are too passive a country to revolt on our own.
The US might help, but between troop commitments and the likelyhood of a hissyfit on the part of the UN if we do, we won't.

In terms of Zimbabwe the US would not be acting alone, there would be a serious coalition which would definately include the UK, France and Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, possibly India and Bangladesh, as well as Nigeria who would join as soon as it appears that world oppinion is with the anti-Mugabe legue. The only significant opposition to such a move would be from China, Libya and Namibia. South Africa will try to keep the issue an African one, but if the right kind of pressure is applied they will fall into line. All it really requires is the ball to start rolling, and that really has to come from the UK, US or (as americans put it) the left feild, India or Nigeria. The problem is that to the outside world we are becoming just another failed African country. :headbang: