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not trying to get into politics, but I think a movie that seems very interesting that's coming up this fall is called V for Vendetta. The Storyline goes Vendetta" is to open in the United States on Nov. 4, which happens to be the day before the 400th anniversary of Guy Fawkes Day, commemorating the original, failed Roman Catholic plot to blow up Parliament. (Fawkes, one of the conspirators, was tortured, hanged and drawn and quartered, and is now cheerfully burned in effigy in annual bonfires across Britain.) The movie is set in a ravaged, crumbling London in 2020, a city in the throes of seemingly terminal decay. Cars are scarce; food is rationed; the subway is unusable.

Into this dead and deadly society comes V, a mysterious and strangely charismatic masked freedom fighter (or terrorist - take your pick), with a searingly awful past and a goal to overthrow the government. He is aided, eventually, by Evey (Portman), who joins his movement when political consciousness is thrust brutally upon her
And The Line is: People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments, Governments Should Be Afraid of Their People.

This is written by The Wachowski Brothers (Producers of The Matrix)

http://movies.yahoo.com/

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/20/news/vendetta.php
check it out

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Tell me what do u think

It sounds like a good movie, but you need to fix the link. It doesn't link to the trailer, just to the main yahoo movies site.

It sounds like a good movie, but you need to fix the link. It doesn't link to the trailer, just to the main yahoo movies site.

sorry no trailers yet

damn. I found the page after some searching. Hopefully it will be as cool as it looks.

....oddly enough, this movie scares me.

Oh, the movie itself will be kickass, yes!

...but the meaning behind it. *shudder*

....oddly enough, this movie scares me.

Oh, the movie itself will be kickass, yes!

...but the meaning behind it. *shudder*

what's wrong with meaning behind it?

I watched bits and pieces of an older movie named Vendetta. Just did a google search and it seems there have been a few movies named Vendetta. The one I watched was mob related.. iirc.

what's wrong with meaning behind it?

Up! Rise up! Rise up against the evil oppressors that have ruined our lands, soiled our fields, and have taken the very promise and hope from our hands and smashed it to the ground, all in the name of their own greed and gluttony!

That.

V for Vendetta? That has to be one of the worst titles in human history

I think I can think of a couple more...

I'm a little nervous about it being from a first time director whose AD credits are all special effects laiden. It makes me think that this will be more spectacle than story-almost the opposite of the original source. The book is fairly minimalist, shaded with grey and choice colors for accent. Who knows, though-maybe this guy has just been getting these effects gigs goin' "Man, I really just want to tell a story." He could nail it.

I had a fantasy that I would be able to do this, but it was a fantasy. One of the things that disapointed me is the casting of V. In my fantasy-because it wasn't likely to happen I had full control of the production-I would cast V with a dancer and have a seperate actor do his voice. This is not to suggest that V would prance around everywhere but rather he would have that poetic movement, and a disconnect between his voice and his face, leaving his identy as open ended as in the graphic novel. That is an important part of that story, that we don't know what's under the mask. So even if they don't take the mask off in the movie, we the audience know what is under the mask and have that connection. I'm sure explaining this to the money men would meet with blank stares...so thats why it was a fantasy...

Could go either way.

I'm highly skeptical. The Wachowskis botched the Matrix sequels, all the spy information procured thusfar has not demonstrated anything I'd deem to be positive and a script review revealed the true awfulness.

*Sigh* The curse of film's inability to do Alan Moore justice is as strong as ever.

I'm highly skeptical. The Wachowskis botched the Matrix sequels, all the spy information procured thusfar has not demonstrated anything I'd deem to be positive and a script review revealed the true awfulness.

*Sigh* The curse of film's inability to do Alan Moore justice is as strong as ever.
Ah man, I forgot about the Wachowskis being involved. Not much faith indeed. Really this is too damn bad. I'll still watch it, and who knows maybe this one will be the one they get right, but given the track record of all involved I'm pretty skeptical as well.

Ah man, I forgot about the Wachowskis being involved. Not much faith indeed. Really this is too damn bad. I'll still watch it, and who knows maybe this one will be the one they get right, but given the track record of all involved I'm pretty skeptical as well.

But you have to admit the Wachowski brothers revolutionized sci-fi movies with the first installment of The Matrix. This is also based on a comic book too.

Oh-ho! Well, the original comic series was very good. Even the original original black-and-white episodes from the old Warrior back in the early 1980s. Yes, I'm that old. Mind you, given what Hollywood did to Alan Moore's The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, the actual movie may well turn out to be a p.o.s..

Politically and morally... well, if they don't make too big an arse of the original story, as a lifelong pacifist/physical coward I don't think there should be too many objections. Except, perhaps, from authoritarian politicians.

Wow, a movie about a guy trying to overthrow the government? Is this for real?

I can't say I'm looking forward to it. For a couple of reasons:
1. The The Wachowski Brothers are doing it, and aside from the first Matrix movie, I can't say I'm too impressed with their talents. Especially script-writing. Definitely try to do style over substance them two;
2. The comic book (get hold of a copy if possible) was extremely good. Unfortunately it was one of Alan Moore's first attempts and does show it at times. Story-line a tad predictable and a little amateurish at times. Still well above most graphic novels out there, but it's obvious Moore was still finding his feet with this one;
3. It definitely was a book from the 80's. It was written in response to the increasing right-wing stance of the British govt, especially their attempts to limit people's freedoms. Actually, when I think about it this isn't such a big issue. The US is going through the same motions right now, vis a vis the Patriot Act.
4. Perhaps the biggest one: Not one movie made out of an Alan Moore graphic novel has been good. They've all been absolute shit. Absolute. Shit. 'From Hell' = Shit. "League of extraordinary gentlemen' = Shit.
It's like Hollywood has decided to have a competition to see how completely they can fuck up an Alan Moore graphic novel. My guess why they've never done 'The Watchmen' (always in pre-production on IMDB) is because they can't work out exactly how to totally screw it up. It's too cool a story for them.


And "V for Vendetta" isn't that bad a title. If you read the book, you'd know why it has that name. The reason is pretty good.

Indeed The Comic book has history, look it up if you want about Guy Fawkes day celebrated November 5th every year, it's its 400th anniversary this year.

V for Vendetta is one of my favourite comics, I even own some of the original artwork.

That said, as someone else has pointed out, they haven't made a good movie out of an Alan Moore comic yet. To make matters worse, Watchmen is in production also. They should put Robert Rodriguez in charge of all future comicbook adaptations, Sin City was a masterpiece.

This is written by The Wachowski Brothers (Producers of The Matrix)


Credit where credit is due surely?

Didn't David Lloyd and Alan Moore write the comic (sorry - graphic novel :p)?

Wow, a movie about a guy trying to overthrow the government? Is this for real?

You say that like it has never been done before...

You say that like it has never been done before...

It hasn't been done before to my knowledge.

Credit where credit is due surely?

Didn't David Lloyd and Alan Moore write the comic (sorry - graphic novel :p)?

Yea Sorry I was referring to them as screenwriters but Alan Moore wrote the Graphic Novels, and David Lloyd did the illustrations.

What about The Patriot, or Battlefield Earth, Battleship Potemkin, Oktober to name a few?

Equillibrium is another good example.

Equilibrium is where they aren't allowed to have emotions, but in a way they're similiar because they both want to overthrow the government, but V for Vendetta has the scenario where the nazis won WWII and this become a fascist future.

But you have to admit the Wachowski brothers revolutionized sci-fi movies with the first installment of The Matrix. This is also based on a comic book too.
I will admit to no such thing.

but V for Vendetta has the scenario where the nazis won WWII and this become a fascist future Umm, no. That's not what happened. There was a war, England was shattered and in chaos. Then a new Fascist power arose and took the reins.

Hey! I actually have that graphic novel. Movie, eh?

Couldn't have come at a better time. Unless it's watered down terribly, that's quite a political statement to make in this time of cheerleader morality.

It hasn't been done before to my knowledge.

You're missing out then. There are some fantastic films on that theme out there.

You like anime, no?

I've seen a few anime with that in (though unfortunately I cannot remember the names :()

A few suggestions:

The Battle of Algiers,
Battle Royale II,
Scum, (OK - the "government" certainly, but the film could be interpreted that way)
Dune,
Akira, (not sure about this. Been a while since I've seen it so I might be confusing it with another anime)

The Manchurian Candidate, (a stretch, not in the same way you were thinking of)
Battleship Potemkin
Les Misérables
Che!
If...
Once Upon a Time in Mexico, (::EDIT:: I actually meant Fistfull of Dynamite though I suppose OUATIM still works)
Metropolis, (Fritz Lang's version. Not the Japanese remake, though that is good too)

I'm sure there are many more, though you'll have to look to world cinema for many of them.

some people have gone far too say the movie promotes terrorism.

some people have gone far too say the movie promotes terrorism.
Well, the first thing he does is blow up Parlament...

Well, it demonstrates the follies of foregoing personal freedoms in the name of order. Capably.

Well, the first thing he does is blow up Parlament...

Deservedly so, in the context of the storyline. Deservedly so.

some people have gone far too say the movie promotes terrorism.

Ha :D

You should have seen some of the stuff about Battle Royale II. IIRC one American on IMDB (I think) claimed the US should invade Japan over the film.

:confused:

Should be interesting, if they manage to reign in the special effects enough to actually get down to the discussion of morals. Deservedly so, in the context of the storyline. Deservedly so.Yeeaahhh. BOOOM!!!

Ahem. It all depends on your point of view, doesn't it.

the movie's motto is: People Should not be afraid of their governments, but governments should be afraid of their people.

the movie's motto is: People Should not be afraid of their governments, but governments should be afraid of their people.
Damn straight.

the movie's motto is: People Should not be afraid of their governments, but governments should be afraid of their people.

Hear, hear.

The End of the movie was a start of a new revolution anyone know what the revolution is I haven't read the books.