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We all win!

Yaaaaaay!

*starts singing O Canada in falsetto, closes eyes and thinks lewd thoughts of Jack Layton's bicycle*

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/28/samesex050628.html


We all win!

Yaaaaaay!

*starts singing O Canada in falsetto, closes eyes and thinks lewd thoughts of Jack Layton's bicycle*

*Nudges USA*

"Hey you might wanna take a look at that."

*starts singing O Canada in falsetto, closes eyes and thinks lewd thoughts of Jack Layton's bicycle*
So basically you look like a Boy Scout.

Kudos to the Liberals, the NDP, and the BQ! :D

Stephen Harper...go back to Texas you Bush lover! :fluffle:

OMG I can feel the fabric of society unravelling already! Pfft. Maybe now our government can actually get some work done. *glare Stephen Harper*

My first reaction was "Awww..."

I'm such a softie *sniffles*

I'm so happy. This is a real step forward for us all. We should be very proud of our nation, and our leaders right now. I could kiss 'em all. I hope we see pot finally decriminalized before Parliament dissolves later this year, too (after Gomery reports back on the sponsorship scandal).

the legislation passed easily, making Canada only the third country in the world, after the Netherlands and Belgium, to officially recognize same-sex unions.

New Zealand recognises gay civil unions, but not gay marriage.

Does that count?

I could really care less.

I could really care less.

Sorry you feel that way. It's a great day for everybody, though! Really!!

Feel good!

Congratulations, Canada! Another step in the right direction. Though I could swear they were already doing this. o.o

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/06/28/samesex050628.html


We all win!

Yaaaaaay!

*starts singing O Canada in falsetto, closes eyes and thinks lewd thoughts of Jack Layton's bicycle*

Damn liberal politicians. Not like we should keep church and state seperate.

I am horrified at this bullshit.

I think the united states could take a good hard look at all the Canada has accomplished since its inception (especially with our holiday coming up. Canada Day, which falls on July 1 for americans who aren't familiar with Canadian history) and take a real cue for their own future. Time to wake up and smell the progress, people! Good on the parliament for finally legalising this. I'm not gay, but I say it's a hell of a step in the right direction. Come on Georgie Boy, what are you waiting for?

Congratulations, Canada! Another step in the right direction. Though I could swear they were already doing this. o.o

Thanks, Drache! And good luck with whatever it is that gets you down wherever it is that you live!

Damn liberal politicians. Not like we should keep church and state seperate.

I am horrified at this bullshit.
This is bizarrely contradictory.

Since the US has a tad longer history than Canada as an independent nation, we have more accomplishments than Canada.

As for this bill, good luck with it.

As for America Doing the samething: FAT CHANCE

*Nudges USA*

"Hey you might wanna take a look at that."


Score one for Soviet Canukistan! ;)

Looking forward to following the reaction from down there over the next few days.

Since the US has a tad longer history than Canada as an independent nation, we have more accomplishments than Canada.

As for this bill, good luck with it.

As for America Doing the samething: FAT CHANCE

More's the pity, my American cousin. More's the pity.

Okay, now where's my bottle of coconut rum got to? LET'S party, Canada!

More's the pity, my American cousin. More's the pity.

Okay, now where's my bottle of coconut rum got to? LET'S party, Canada!

I'm a supporter for Civil Unions Dobbsworld. I am NOT a supporter of Gay Marriage. Give them some benefits but not all benefits that a normal married couple can have.

Since the US has a tad longer history than Canada as an independent nation, we have more accomplishments than Canada.
One could certainly argue that you've had a lot more f**k-ups in that same amount of time, too.(looks at social security system and a map of middle east) And hey, without canadians, you wouldn't have zippers, ginger ale, snowmobiles, paint rollers, a 24 hour time system, the electric car heater, the snowblower, or multiplex movie theatres! I'd say that short list, which is by no means totally inclusive, of Canadian accomplishments is pretty revolutionary, eh?
*breaks out the Molson Ex* It's about party time, I would say.

I'm a supporter for Civil Unions Dobbsworld. I am NOT a supporter of Gay Marriage. Give them some benefits but not all benefits that a normal married couple can have.
The old separate but equal canard. I suppose the black bathrooms were acceptable as well.

Why not all the benefits (even if the name is different)?

And why "normal?"

I'm a supporter for Civil Unions Dobbsworld. I am NOT a supporter of Gay Marriage. Give them some benefits but not all benefits that a normal married couple can have.

Well, it's a little late to be talking about what or what not to 'give them'. It's all over now. We now all are on equal footing, across the board. welcome to the 21st century, cousin!

It's going to be GREAT, you'll see... *great*

Mmm, daiquiris are my fave...

Just in time for Canada day.

This makes me extra proud to be canadian. :D

I'm a supporter for Civil Unions Dobbsworld. I am NOT a supporter of Gay Marriage. Give them some benefits but not all benefits that a normal married couple can have.
Hey, man, they are normal married couples.
They're normal for them, for their sexual orientation, so they deserve all the rights and benefits for their union. Marriage was civil before it was religious, how about the religions that disagree with same sex couplings get a new name for their unions, ok?

Well, it's a little late to be talking about what or what not to 'give them'. It's all over now. We now all are on equal footing, across the board. welcome to the 21st century, cousin!

Ahh my friend. I live in the Good Ole U.S. of A. A nation that has REJECTED gay marriage. Ever here of DOMA (Passed under Bill Clinton) and Marriage Protection Act? They CLEARLY define marriage as one man and one woman. I have a feeling that we'll be staying that way for a while.

It's going to be GREAT, you'll see... *great*

For Canada maybe.

Mmm, daiquiris are my fave...
The night SCOTUS legalizes it here (as it seems like that's the way, I'm definately going to a gay bar (even though I'm straight) and partying!

The night SCOTUS legalizes it here (as it seems like that's the way, I'm definately going to a gay bar (even though I'm straight) and partying!

If SCOTUS did that, then will I support the Constitutional Amendment to ban it. But not till then.

If SCOTUS did that, then will I support the Constitutional Amendment to ban it. But not till then.
Except that then you create a major constitutional crisis, because you have two blatantly contradictory portions of the Constitution - the FMA and the 14th Amendment.

One more reason to hate Canada.

*involuntarily begins to hum to the tune "Blame Canada"*

Oh, I'm sorry. Did I do that out loud? :p

WOTTA BUNCHA PARTY POOPS!

Lighten the *hic* up!

Hot damn!! Glad they did it.. I'm an American who believes in equality in all frames, and a seperation of Church and State (just like god wanted, read your damn book, that bit about giving caeser his due? Following the laws of the land insofar as they do not conflict with the laws of god? Guess what, you don't like gay marraige? Don't get one!).

Now if only I had my passport so I could go party with my gay canadian neighbors!

Hot damn!!

*snips*

Now if only I had my passport so I could go party with my gay canadian neighbors!

Go man go!

The "vote is about the Charter of Rights," said Martin. "We're a nation of minorities and in a nation of minorities you don't cherry-pick rights."

Gee.. Sounds kind of like..

Yeah..

Thats it..

THE BILL OF RIGHTS.. Gee, go fig.. Now why can't we read our own document?

One could certainly argue that you've had a lot more f**k-ups in that same amount of time, too.(looks at social security system and a map of middle east) And hey, without canadians, you wouldn't have zippers, ginger ale, snowmobiles, paint rollers, a 24 hour time system, the electric car heater, the snowblower, or multiplex movie theatres! I'd say that short list, which is by no means totally inclusive, of Canadian accomplishments is pretty revolutionary, eh?
*breaks out the Molson Ex* It's about party time, I would say.

BURN ON CORNELIU!!!! :D

:) :) :) In my rush to get everything packed for trip out west tommorow, I forgot about the vote being today. What nice news to end the day with. I'm really proud to be Canadian right now. A couple months back, a roomate ofmine moved out to shack up with his fiance: a guy. (It was already legal in Ontario) I was happy he had the choice to marry the love of his life. Great to see everyone in this country now has that choice too. Sweeeeet! :D

I think the united states could take a good hard look at all the Canada has accomplished since its inception (especially with our holiday coming up. Canada Day, which falls on July 1 for americans who aren't familiar with Canadian history) and take a real cue for their own future. Time to wake up and smell the progress, people! Good on the parliament for finally legalising this. I'm not gay, but I say it's a hell of a step in the right direction. Come on Georgie Boy, what are you waiting for?

I think he's waiting for hell to freeze over. No way will he approve of gay marriage he's too big of a religious nut to even consider it!! Same with stem cell research. They say church and state should stay seperate. not in the US from what i've seen on the news (CNN a prime example) with the way bush gives money(or lack thereof) to the sciences.

The US (now I'm not saying ALL americans mind you) will prolly pout and stomp their feet like a recalcitrant 3 year old because we are not like them in so many ways. And contrary to popular belief america. 1) WE DO NOT LIVE IN IGLOOS!! 2) WE DO NOT DRIVE DOGSLEDS (in the arctic yes) 3) When canada was still British North America, I seem to recall in history class that we kicked ass in the war of 1812 however you were taught in history class, we were the only people to have burnt down the white house. If it wasn't for the fact that you beat us in the battle of baltimore the US would be a very different place then what it is today!!

4)WE DO NOT SAY "EH" EVERYTIME WE TALK!! (ok maybe sometimes) and finally



5)I AM CANADIAN!!!! :D

I think he's waiting for hell to freeze over. No way will he approve of gay marriage he's too big of a religious nut to even consider it!! Same with stem cell research. They say church and state should stay seperate. not in the US from what i've seen on the news (CNN a prime example) with the way bush gives money(or lack thereof) to the sciences.

The US (now I'm not saying ALL americans mind you) will prolly pout and stomp their feet like a recalcitrant 3 year old because we are not like them in so many ways. And contrary to popular belief america. 1) WE DO NOT LIVE IN IGLOOS!! 2) WE DO NOT DRIVE DOGSLEDS (in the arctic yes) 3) When canada was still British North America, I seem to recall in history class that we kicked ass in the war of 1812 however you were taught in history class, we were the only people to have burnt down the white house. If it wasn't for the fact that you beat us in the battle of baltimore the US would be a very different place then what it is today!!

4)WE DO NOT SAY "EH" EVERYTIME WE TALK!! (ok maybe sometimes) and finally



5)I AM CANADIAN!!!! :D

LOL..My girlfriend told some american they'd just gotten radio a few years ago in Canada, but feigned confusion about TV. Also said she had to live at her friend's house 'cause her igloo melted, (they believed it), build it up again from hand, and then take her pet polar bear for a ride. (stopped believing at that point). Also told her friend they'd arrived just in time for to see the doglsed races.

lol, I love those I am Canadian commercials.

Thanks, Drache! And good luck with whatever it is that gets you down wherever it is that you live!

Quite welcome. I'm in America (though plan on becoming Canadian m'self), but I'd love to see the same thing happen here.

I think he's waiting for hell to freeze over. No way will he approve of gay marriage he's too big of a religious nut to even consider it!! Same with stem cell research. They say church and state should stay seperate. not in the US from what i've seen on the news (CNN a prime example) with the way bush gives money(or lack thereof) to the sciences.

I actually support Civil Unions but won't support Gay Marriage. As for stem Cell research, I am for that as well. As for seperation of church and state, don't believe everything you hear on CNN. :D

The US (now I'm not saying ALL americans mind you) will prolly pout and stomp their feet like a recalcitrant 3 year old because we are not like them in so many ways.

Thank God! :D

And contrary to popular belief america. 1) WE DO NOT LIVE IN IGLOOS!!

Aww shucks! Nah, I know you don't. I've been up to Canada, granted not the far northern tere of Canada, and I've seen your buildings.

2) WE DO NOT DRIVE DOGSLEDS (in the arctic yes)

Correct :)

3) When canada was still British North America, I seem to recall in history class that we kicked ass in the war of 1812 however you were taught in history class, we were the only people to have burnt down the white house.

And here is where you are wrong. Technically, you were not Canadian but British during the war of 1812. In said war, it ended *gasp* in a draw. Neither side won the war. Dig a little deeper than what is actually taught in class. I found many inaccuracies that way.

If it wasn't for the fact that you beat us in the battle of baltimore the US would be a very different place then what it is today!!

That'll be the Battle of Fort McHenry actually. :D *breaks into a rendition of the Star Spangled Banner*

4)WE DO NOT SAY "EH" EVERYTIME WE TALK!! (ok maybe sometimes) and finally

Eh? Never heard of the word :D

5)I AM CANADIAN!!!! :D
Congrats! You want a medal?

Actually, now that I think about it, I guess Canada has to legalize gay marriage. Cuz, you know, nobody could get married otherwise.

Everyone knows everyone in Canada is gay.

And contrary to popular belief america. 1) WE DO NOT LIVE IN IGLOOS!!

... Ok. Now I REALLY hate Canada. Who wouldn't want to live in an Igloo? Seriously.

Any of you legal beagles know what sort of agreement exists between the American and Canadian governments regarding recognizing one anothers' legal marriages?

My question is, if I were to marry an American guy he would have the right to enter Canada as my spouse, would the US still have the right to deny me access to the States even though I am married to a US citizen?

Any of you legal beagles know what sort of agreement exists between the American and Canadian governments regarding recognizing one anothers' legal marriages?

My question is, if I were to marry an American guy he would have the right to enter Canada as my spouse, would the US still have the right to deny me access to the States even though I am married to a US citizen?

Fucking loopholes.

Actually, now that I think about it, I guess Canada has to legalize gay marriage. Cuz, you know, nobody could get married otherwise.

Everyone knows everyone in Canada is gay.



... Ok. Now I REALLY hate Canada. Who wouldn't want to live in an Igloo? Seriously.


oh kentuckystan you do yourself proud with your (certain emphasis on)INBRED prejudices :p


Canadas liberal policies yay!!!!! Canadas seal clubbing: Nay!!!!!


Canadas secretly touching Americas ass.. :)

Any of you legal beagles know what sort of agreement exists between the American and Canadian governments regarding recognizing one anothers' legal marriages?

My question is, if I were to marry an American guy he would have the right to enter Canada as my spouse, would the US still have the right to deny me access to the States even though I am married to a US citizen?
The United States does not have to reconize any marriage performed outside of its borders. I have a feeling that this will probably be the case that does go to the SCOTUS.

But to Canadians, good job, I think you just caught all those opposed with their pants down.

Fucking loopholes.

Pardon the pun.

The United States does not have to reconize any marriage performed outside of its borders. I have a feeling that this will probably be the case that does go to the SCOTUS.

Why should it go to SCOTUS? Unless we have a treaty with Canada that states we have to recognize their marriages, then yea but I don't think we do.

So now I'm thinking, hmm... maybe what we need in Canada now, 'cause the US gov won't recognize Canadian gay married couples as married couples, is our own versions of American destinations like say, Las Vegas. Our own version of Vegas, with Elvis-themed gay marriage chapels all over the place, hash parlours, legally-operated brothels, and of course the gambling and the boozing and the Cuban cigars.

The only thing we'd need after that is some Caribbean beachfront (a la Turks and Caicos Islands, who've been jumping up and down waing their hands in our faces for thirty years trying to join Confederation. We could do worse, I mean come on, Canada. What are we doing dragging our heels on this total win-win...oh, I digressed. Sorry. High Spirits. Sorry. Sorry.).

The United States does not have to reconize any marriage performed outside of its borders.

Canada and the US have treaties on virtually everything though, I am wondering about this particular one.

A Celine Dion-themed wedding chapel...*shiver*

And for gay weddings...a Vaseline Dion-themed wedding chapel...

Why should it go to SCOTUS? Unless we have a treaty with Canada that states we have to recognize their marriages, then yea but I don't think we do.
Because it would get very complicated very fast. If a couple marries in Canada and their marriage is reconized within the US, a gay couple could use that as a reason for challenge under the 14th. Also, a diplomatic backlash by Canada (if they decide to respond that way) would force the issue all the more.

Any of you legal beagles know what sort of agreement exists between the American and Canadian governments regarding recognizing one anothers' legal marriages?

My question is, if I were to marry an American guy he would have the right to enter Canada as my spouse, would the US still have the right to deny me access to the States even though I am married to a US citizen?
They don't recognize it.

A gay couple got married shortly after it became legal in Ontario and tried to fill out a family form to go into the states for some convention (I've never had to fill in a form to cross the border so I don't know what that was about) and the border guard wouldn't let them pass with the family form, instead they were saying they needed to fill out two individual forms, they refused to do so because as spouses, they are a family, not just individuals, and they turned back.

Yay Canada - I always knew you were superior to the US.

*just wanted to get some nationalists panties in a knot* lol

I'm proud of you guys up there and agree with the legalization of pot comment too. lets get a move on so yer all prepared to supply my demands once I move up there.

Because it would get very complicated very fast. If a couple marries in Canada and their marriage is reconized within the US, a gay couple could use that as a reason for challenge under the 14th. Also, a diplomatic backlash by Canada (if they decide to respond that way) would force the issue all the more.

Wow, I have no idea what any of that means, but it sounds kinda sexy. In a legal sorta way.

Wow, I have no idea what any of that means, but it sounds kinda sexy. In a legal sorta way.
Uh...

Okkkkaaaaay. Thanks. I think. ;)

Because it would get very complicated very fast. If a couple marries in Canada and their marriage is reconized within the US, a gay couple could use that as a reason for challenge under the 14th. Also, a diplomatic backlash by Canada (if they decide to respond that way) would force the issue all the more.

But now your getting into a sticky situation here. The only way I see this happening is if a Gay couple got hurt while on a vacation in the US. Now I don't mind if their partner wants to visit them in the hospital but that is where things will get sticky.

Now if they move down here, they'll have to move to Massachutess or to Vermont or Connecticut. Why? Mass (thanks to the courts) has no choice but to recognize it under state law and VT and CT have recognized Civil Unions.

Because it would get very complicated very fast. If a couple marries in Canada and their marriage is reconized within the US, a gay couple could use that as a reason for challenge under the 14th. Also, a diplomatic backlash by Canada (if they decide to respond that way) would force the issue all the more.


I can't see Canada resorting to any kind of Diplomatic backlash unless the the US Gov't really pushed hard and unfair on the issue. (ie, talk of denying passports or some other such hdeously stupid move) While its not beyond the US Gov't, I doubt it will happen. As long as it isn't to with trade or natural resources (or poisoning our water with your N. Dakota fuck-up) GWBs administration has been quite civil in respecting the fact that Canada is a sovereign nation, free to do what it feels is best for its people (And even in Trade disputes there is room for manouvering. GWB has been a strong supporter of re-opening the US border to Canadian Beef, for example) There'll certainly be some hot air let loose from the usual suspects of "Conservative" & "Christian" trash-talkers down in the US, but it'll blow over in time. I hope.

Canada and the US have treaties on virtually everything though, I am wondering about this particular one.
My understanding is that US law states that any marriage is vaild as long as it does not violate US laws and is reconized as a vaild marriage within the orginating country. However, the DOMA states that marriage in the US is one man one woman and that states do not have to reconize gay marriages. This law is very unconstitutional but has not made it to the SCOTUS yet. A couple from Canada (either US or Canadian or both) would have a good reason to challenge the laws.

They don't recognize it.

It only passed 3rd reading today, the Ontario wedding was not recognized by the Canadian Federal Government at that time, at least to the extent that federal treaties might apply.

Congratulations, Canada! Another step in the right direction. Though I could swear they were already doing this. o.o

You probably were thinking of Provincial law... I'm not up to date on that myself I'm afraid. (Do BOTH governments get to decide marriage, and to what extent?)

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But on the topic, I think one day we'll boast with pride about being the 3rd country to do this. (Yes, even those damned Conservatives)

My understanding is that US law states that any marriage is vaild as long as it does not violate US laws and is reconized as a vaild marriage within the orginating country. However, the DOMA states that marriage in the US is one man one woman and that states do not have to reconize gay marriages. This law is very unconstitutional but has not made it to the SCOTUS yet. A couple from Canada (either US or Canadian or both) would have a good reason to challenge the laws.

DOMA has actually been challenged in the Federal Court in the State of Washington. The Federal Judge upheld DOMA!

BLOODY HELL! CANADA SHOULD REJOIN THE EMPIRE AND TOGETHER, BRITAIN AND CANADA CAN RID THE WORLD OF GAY MARRIAGE. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!


PS-

I KNOW YOU LIBERALS WILL LOVE THIS:

MARRIAGE = 1 man+1woman

(Yes, even those damned Conservatives)

Real negative-vibe merchants, those darn Tories! They may smarten up yet, you're right. But it'll take a more abiding understanding of Canadians, as a whole, before they'll be given a mandate from the electorate.

Damn it, my buzz is wearing off.

I can only hope the Yankees are more civilised than to allow this God-Forsaken abomination to come to their shores. And I thought Canada was civilised! I can only wish the people of Canada my best wishes and prayers.

But now your getting into a sticky situation here. The only way I see this happening is if a Gay couple got hurt while on a vacation in the US. Now I don't mind if their partner wants to visit them in the hospital but that is where things will get sticky.

Now if they move down here, they'll have to move to Massachutess or to Vermont or Connecticut. Why? Mass (thanks to the courts) has no choice but to recognize it under state law and VT and CT have recognized Civil Unions.
Excatly, any claim of marriage benifits by a homosexual couple would pretty much trigger that challenge. Since Canada is so close... it will happen soon I think.

I can't see Canada resorting to any kind of Diplomatic backlash unless the the US Gov't really pushed hard and unfair on the issue. (ie, talk of denying passports or some other such hdeously stupid move) While its not beyond the US Gov't, I doubt it will happen.
I don't forsee a trade dispute, I was thinking more along the lines of Brazil's responce to automatic finger printing when their citizens enter the US, even on a 90 tourist visa. They responded with a law that stated American citizens had to be printed when coming to Brazil for any reason. If the US does not reconize marriages from Canada of Canadian citizens, Canada might respond in kind. I doubt it, but it would be interesting if they did.

GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

Pardon the pun...again?

Didn't the liberals pass a bill 2 years ago that said they wouldn't do that

Pardon the pun...again?

What is that supposed to mean?

attention everybody


theres a troll out on the loose. please dont feed it.

And I thought Canada was civilised! I can only wish the people of Canada my best wishes and prayers.

Thanks! *glances up at Palestine, then inserts fresh bone through septum while continuing to skin wildebeest carcass with elan.*

You probably were thinking of Provincial law... I'm not up to date on that myself I'm afraid. (Do BOTH governments get to decide marriage, and to what extent?)

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But on the topic, I think one day we'll boast with pride about being the 3rd country to do this. (Yes, even those damned Conservatives)


I believe that the courts up here decided that failure to recognize same-sex marriages is unconstitutional and told the federal gov't to implement some sort of law: and thus bill C-38 was born. Some provinces recognized same-sex marriages even before C-38 but the courts decided it needed clarification. (Now I'm not sure if this is entirely correct but i believe it dances around the issue. anybody remember any better than me?)

Excatly, any claim of marriage benifits by a homosexual couple would pretty much trigger that challenge. Since Canada is so close... it will happen soon I think.

However, you have to remember that most states have passed state constitutional amendments against Gay Marriage. Since those amendments don't violate any federal law as well as not violating the constitution, they are valid. It'll be an uphill slope and I don't think that the people bringing the lawsuit will win.

What is that supposed to mean?

Queen...flamboyant gay man...nevermind...

I believe that the bloody Liberals, Commies, and Socialists are the scourge of humanity. Again I say: GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

DOMA has actually been challenged in the Federal Court in the State of Washington. The Federal Judge upheld DOMA!
That's just the District Court, not even the 9th. It ain't over till SCOTUS sings.

Besides, I doubt that it could really stand with the Constitution stating that all laws and documents reconized by one state HAS to be reconized in the others. Or else you would get things like some states saying any wedding out of a church is not legal, or California drivers not being able to drive anywhere but California (of course the last WOULD be a good idea. ;) )

I can only hope the Yankees are more civilised than to allow this God-Forsaken abomination to come to their shores. And I thought Canada was civilised! I can only wish the people of Canada my best wishes and prayers.
See, Kids? This is what the poster child for birth control looks like.
*Goes back to chasing the migrating herds of moose over the tundra or whatver it is we "uncivilised barbarians" do to feed our litters of beast-children*

Thanks! *glances up at Palestine, then inserts fresh bone through septum while continuing to skin wildebeest carcass with elan.*

I take it your a Canadian. I am beggining to hate Canada just like I hate the USA.

That's just the District Court, not even the 9th. It ain't over till SCOTUS sings.

Good point.

]Besides, I doubt that it could really stand with the Constitution stating that all laws and documents reconized by one state HAS to be reconized in the others.

Never know. It lasted this long and its been about 9 years since it passed! :D

Or else you would get things like some states saying any wedding out of a church is not legal, or California drivers not being able to drive anywhere but California (of course the last WOULD be a good idea. ;) )

Actually, that bit about california will be illegal. As for your first point, I doubt it'll get that far. To many people love outdoor weddings and they'll continue.

See, Kids? This is what the poster child for birth control looks like.

You are even more vulgor than a mad man in East London!

*points to sign*

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Finally!

This just makes me even happier and more proud to be a Canadian.

I take it your a Canadian.

Ding!

We have a winner! What's his prize, Chet?

Finally!

This just makes me even happier and more proud to be a Canadian.

Bloody Liberal!

Ding!

We have a winner! What's his prize, Chet?

IT'S 2 TICKETS TO A CELINE DION CONCERT!!!

Ding!

We have a winner! What's his prize, Chet?


Die Liberal Scum! *shoots Dobbsworld*

Bloody Liberal!

I consider myself more of an independant. There are some issues on which I disagree with liberals, ditto for conservatives.

This issue, though, is clear.

Now if I ever find a good boyfriend I'll be able to marry him. :D

Though gay marriage was legalized in my province (New Brunswick) last week anyway.

I believe that the bloody Liberals, Commies, and Socialists are the scourge of humanity. Again I say: GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!
What? GOD SAVE THE QUEER?
Ooooh, outrageous!

Uncivilised Barbarians!

IT'S 2 TICKETS TO A CELINE DION CONCERT!!!

LOL effing BRILliant!

What? GOD SAVE THE QUEER?
Ooooh, outrageous!


Go back to Hell, where you came from!

Uncivilised Barbarians!

Oh. It's on now.

*Puts on his wolfskins and picks up his axe.*

FOR ODIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN!

...and PAUL MARTIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!

LOL effing BRILliant!

I thought so!! :D

You know, technically, as most Canadians live in cities, we can't really be called uncivilised. Although, I take no offence at the label of barbarian. It fits me as well as any...Just an etymological technicality, eh?

Oh. It's on now.

*Puts on his wolfskins and picks up his axe.*

FOR ODIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN!

...and PAUL MARTIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNN!


*Brings entire Royal Army and a force of RAF Sptifires and Lancasters and bombs Ottawa, Toronto, and whatever the hell big cities are in Canada*

For Micheal Howard

Die Liberal Scum! *shoots Dobbsworld*

*opens waistcoat to reveal bulletproof vest*

*Kisses Palestine on either cheek*

Uncivilised Barbarians!

*laughs hysterically and lights a cigarette*

*Brings entire Royal Army and a force of RAF Sptifires and Lancasters and bombas Ottawa, Toronto, and whatever the hell big cities are in Canada*

*Canada deploys its Field of Goodwill, making all the pilots change their minds, turn around, and become Red Cross volunteers.*

bobas?? just what the hell is a bombas?

I believe that the courts up here decided that failure to recognize same-sex marriages is unconstitutional and told the federal gov't to implement some sort of law: and thus bill C-38 was born. Some provinces recognized same-sex marriages even before C-38 but the courts decided it needed clarification. (Now I'm not sure if this is entirely correct but i believe it dances around the issue. anybody remember any better than me?)

Various provincial courts ruled that not recognizing same-sex marriages was unconstitutional. Those rulings only applied to their respective provinces. The federal government did not appeal these rulings and instead began drafting C-38. The feds did send a reference to the Supreme Court asking it a few questions(like does the charter protect religious officials from having to perform marriage services against their beliefs? The answer was yes to that one).

So until this bill becomes law, same-sex marriages are only performed in the provinces and territories that have had court rulings on it(which is close to all of them anyway). The bill still needs to be voted on by the Senate(trivial, the Senate is currently very liberal, and rarely opposes bills passed in Commons) and then needs to be signed by the GG.

The Queen is still Head of State in Canada!

bobas?? just what the hell is a bombas?
It's how someone who comes from the bloody country that spawned the language mangles one of its most basic words.

bobas?? just what the hell is a bombas?

It says bomb you fagot

Various provincial courts ruled that not recognizing same-sex marriages was unconstitutional. Those rulings only applied to their respective provinces. The federal government did not appeal these rulings and instead began drafting C-38. The feds did send a reference to the Supreme Court asking it a few questions(like does the charter protect religious officials from having to perform marriage services against their beliefs? The answer was yes to that one).

So until this bill becomes law, same-sex marriages are only performed in the provinces and territories that have had court rulings on it(which is close to all of them anyway). The bill still needs to be voted on by the Senate(trivial, the Senate is currently very liberal, and rarely opposes bills passed in Commons) and then needs to be signed by the GG.

ahh thanks I knew it had something to do with the courts and constituitioniality. :D

*Canada deploys its Field of Goodwill, making all the pilots change their minds, turn around, and become Red Cross volunteers.*


PURE GOLD

you get a star :fluffle:

PURE GOLD

you get a star :fluffle:


PERVERTED FAG!

PURE GOLD

you get a star :fluffle:

Yay! :D

*Frames it*

For Micheal Howard

I know you love the taste of your own feet, but could you please get a room?
While Gay Marriage is legal in Canada, we do not look lightly upon foot fetishists practicing autoerotic-asphyxiation in public. If you must put your foot in mouth, please do it in private.

I know you love the taste of your own feet, but could you please get a room?
While Gay Marriage is legal in Canada, we do not look lightly upon foot fetishists practicing autoerotic-asphyxiation in public. If you must put your foot in mouth, please do it in private.

LOL I'm sure there are websites and forums online that delve into that subject!! :D

I know you love the taste of your own feet, but could you please get a room?
While Gay Marriage is legal in Canada, we do not look lightly upon foot fetishists practicing autoerotic-asphyxiation in public. If you must put your foot in mouth, please do it in private.


I have no idea what you just said, it is probably because you are on of those neo-Yankee Canadian liberal

LOL I'm sure there are websites and forums online that delve into that subject!! :D


I bet you are a Yankee

Whee, this is fun!

I bet you are a Yankee

Nope, he's a Met.

Whee, this is fun!


Only a Lib would say so

I bet you are a Yankee

WRONG again smart guy!!

I bet you're a WANKER!! and before you post again make sure you know how to spell!!!

Nope, he's a Met.


I am sorry but I do not indulge myself into your stupid Yankee games

Nope, he's a Met.

LOL! Nice comback Mirkai.

Whee, this is fun!

lol yer right it is! okay forget what I said about feeding the trolls

I am sorry but I do not indulge myself into your stupid Yankee games

No yankees here! :D

Listen, nothing and no-one can diminish this for me or any Canadian. Might as well give it up and have a good time.

wWhoo-hoo!

WRONG again smart guy!!

I bet you're a WANKER!! and before you post again make sure you know how to spell!!!


I hope you aren't a Brit, because I might just have to call the constable on you for perversion and sexual harrassment.

I hope you aren't a Brit, because I might just have to call the constable on you for perversion and sexual harrassment.

Good luck in getting that to stick.

I am sorry but I do not indulge myself into your stupid Yankee games

THEN WHY THE F*UCK ARE YOU ON HERE THEN??

look everyone we're being flamed by a 6 year old!!

Listen, nothing and no-one can diminish this for me or any Canadian. Might as well give it up and have a good time.

wWhoo-hoo!


*passes you fat ass kind joints and some tequila*

hell yeah lets party down

Good luck in getting that to stick.


We have many different, conservative, laws than you bleeding Americans

We have many different, conservative, laws than you bleeding Americans

:rolleyes: At least I have a gun to back up my threats. Do you?

Cel-le-bra-shun!

We gonna celeberate and have a good time, come on now

Cel-le-bra-shun!

We gonna celeberate and have a good time!

THEN WHY THE F*UCK ARE YOU ON HERE THEN??

look everyone we're being flamed by a 6 year old!!

No need to be hostile. I was refering to baseball and I am 14 you prepubescent little boy!

I hope you aren't a Brit, because I might just have to call the constable on you for perversion and sexual harrassment.

THANK GOD NO!! I don't even want to share the SAME AIR as you let alone location!

No need to be hostile. I was refering to baseball

oh really? then what the fuck was that 'sexual perversion' crap you dealt??

Cool it fellas, this thread's already made it's debut in Moderation...

Don't wanna ruin a good thing now. Be civil above all else, now

We gonna celeberate and have a good time, come on now

THANK GOD NO!! I don't even want to share the SAME AIR as you let alone location!


At least I don't live in a perverted, liberal, hell-for-a-country

At least I don't live in a perverted, liberal, hell-for-a-country

Cool man. cool. everybody stay cool.

Cool it fellas, this thread's already made it's debut in Moderation...

Don't wanna ruin a good thing now. Be civil above all else, now

We gonna celeberate and have a good time, come on now

I'm all for it.

Cool it fellas, this thread's already made it's debut in Moderation...

Don't wanna ruin a good thing now. Be civil above all else, now

We gonna celeberate and have a good time, come on now


How would you know anything about being 'civil' you bleeding liberal

Look, mate, Chill out, have a good time, and call us when the other one drops, eh?

Cool it fellas, this thread's already made it's debut in Moderation...

Don't wanna ruin a good thing now. Be civil above all else, now

We gonna celeberate and have a good time, come on now

I am sorry about that dobbsworld. I wasn't reporting the thread as a whole, just a certain poster in it.

At least I don't live in a perverted, liberal, hell-for-a-country

I'm sorry to hear that. :( We can't all be this lucky.

Excellent!

*dives into another 2-4 of Armadillo ale and gives thanks for the great Canadian invention, the fold out beer cube handle.*

Look, mate, Chill out, have a good time, and call us when the other one drops, eh?


I really hope you did not just call me a mate!

I really hope you did not just call me a mate, you dirty little fag!

You know, you really should cool it. At this rate, you'll end up being deleted.

I really hope you did not just call me a mate, you dirty little fag!

mate=friend in this case :rolleyes:

I am sorry for all of the offence. Let us be friends

*sings YMCA to annoy people*

Look, someone needs to bring him the Mod's attention. I would do it personally, but it would be hypocritical as I have sort of urged him on. And on another note, he gets upset by my use of mate, but not the remark about waiting for the second testicle to drop. Fascinating...

No need to be hostile. I was refering to baseball and I am 14 you prepubescent little boy!

Sure you were. and fyi Im 28 puberty has long since past me lol you however must be in puberty right now and zit faced!! seeing you are 14.

*sings YMCA to annoy people*

hehe! *sings with Sumamba Buwhan*

I am sorry for all of the offence. Let us be friends

There we go. We can all get along here. ^v^

I am sorry for all of the offence. Let us be friends
Agreed!

Look, someone needs to bring him the Mod's attention. I would do it personally, but it would be hypocritical as I have sort of urged him on. And on another note, he gets upset by my use of mate, but not the remark about waiting for the second testicle to drop. Fascinating...

Already taken care of Mercaenaria. I already reported the offending poster to the mods.

hehe! *sings with Sumamba Buwhan*

lol you singing it in costume or what?? ;) lol :D

I am sorry about that dobbsworld. I wasn't reporting the thread as a whole, just a certain poster in it.

Eh, who knows? Maybe it'll turn out okay. I really pity the mod who has to wade through this page-turner, though. That's why it's more likely the thing'll get locked up. Easier to just switch it off than to peruse.

Of course I fed the troll too, it's not like I'm not also to blame.

*sigh*

I was on a high, I wanted to share, it's been fun, but there's some ugliness - not like I wasn't expecting some, but I think I'm a little more level-headed now.

What do you all think? Should I just head on over to Moderation and ask to have the thread locked? Take the power into my own hands, so to speak? Stop it before it gets out of hand?

How about a show of hands on that last bit?

There we go. We can all get along here. ^v^


Even I must say that this has gone to far

Eh, who knows? Maybe it'll turn out okay. I really pity the mod who has to wade through this page-turner, though. That's why it's more likely the thing'll get locked up. Easier to just switch it off than to peruse.

Of course I fed the troll too, it's not like I'm not also to blame.

*sigh*

I was on a high, I wanted to share, it's been fun, but there's some ugliness - not like I wasn't expecting some, but I think I'm a little more level-headed now.

What do you all think? Should I just head on over to Moderation and ask to have the thread locked? Take the power into my own hands, so to speak? Stop it before it gets out of hand?

How about a show of hands on that last bit?

I'm being as civilized as the next guy but as soon as bigotry rears it's head then it's gone too far.

No dont get it locked. We need to keep celebrating. This is a great day in history.

I'm tempted to say we could just agree to disagree, but leaving the thread open just invites more hooligans from both sides of the debate (Lord knows I didn't help the situation)

*Pops another bottle of champagne*

Now, Dobbs, find me a boyfriend.

No wait a minute...how about this:

Why don't I make a poll about this unfriendly dude Palestine and how much we all love him - with no negative options available?

I don't know. HLP has apologised for his remarks, and seems to be very calm right now, so let's let bygones be bygones. After all, we're all better than this petty bickering, right?

I am sorry for all of the offence. Let us be friends
Class act, all the way.

Congratulations Canada! Woohoo!

I'm tempted to say we could just agree to disagree, but leaving the thread open just invites more hooligans from both sides of the debate (Lord knows I didn't help the situation)

True but isn't that what democracy is all about debating issues. Sure we can stop with all the name calling and shit. But if it stays civilized then I see no reason to lock it.

Eh, who knows? Maybe it'll turn out okay. I really pity the mod who has to wade through this page-turner, though. That's why it's more likely the thing'll get locked up. Easier to just switch it off than to peruse.

Well if it does get locked, I apologize! Though we don't agree on everything, I do believe in Civil Unions. That is as far as I will go though.

Of course I fed the troll too, it's not like I'm not also to blame.

I don't know if I did or not.

*sigh*

You can do that again :D

I was on a high, I wanted to share, it's been fun, but there's some ugliness - not like I wasn't expecting some, but I think I'm a little more level-headed now.

I think you are too. Agree to disagree is what I say.

What do you all think? Should I just head on over to Moderation and ask to have the thread locked? Take the power into my own hands, so to speak? Stop it before it gets out of hand?

Just look for the thread that has the offending poster's name as the title. You can ask there if you decide to do that.

How about a show of hands on that last bit?

I guess I will raise my hand dobbstown.

I don't know. HLP has apologised for his remarks, and seems to be very calm right now, so let's let bygones be bygones. After all, we're all better than this petty bickering, right?


I agree.

I say just stop feeding the troll and commence with the celebration.

*smacks Corneliu ass as he does the Y in YMCA*

I say just stop feeding the troll and commence with the celebration.

*smacks Conrilius ass as he does the Y in YMCA*

Thank God I played sports or I would've knocked you down for that.

*goes back to YMCA because he likes the song*

I say just stop feeding the troll and commence with the celebration.

*smacks Conrilius ass as he does the Y in YMCA*


That is being very uncivilised

If HLP apologized then I'm man enough to do the same thing.

I apologize to anyone who felt in anyway insulted or begrudged by my comments.

And HLP I apologize to you also.

Hee hee hee.

*grabs spliff roughly, massaging it's length as I position it at my lips*

This is the new century after all, folks...

If HLP apologized then I'm man enough to do the same thing.

I apologize to anyone who felt in anyway insulted or begrudged by my comments.

And HLP I apologize to you also.


Thanks because you really hurt my feelbads when you said that sentence with the words.

Hee hee hee.

*grabs spliff roughly, massaging it's length as I position it at my lips*

This is the new century after all, folks...

lol are you doing a Bill CLinton? I smoked it but never inhaled!! :D

If HLP apologized then I'm man enough to do the same thing.

I apologize to anyone who felt in anyway insulted or begrudged by my comments.

And HLP I apologize to you also.

I already posted my apology, but:

I am sorry to all who were offended in any way, shape, or form by my close-minded, bigoted, and posh posting and swear not to repeat the above, so help me God.

Okay so when the gay guys get married are they going to say "Yay, we're gay married!!! Now we can prepare for our gay honeymoon. Imagine in a year we will be celebrating our gay anniversary."

No wait a minute...how about this:

Why don't I make a poll about this unfriendly dude Palestine and how much we all love him - with no negative options available?

If you even consider a Myrth option, I'm taking away Paul Martin from you. Forever. *Cackles* Yes, I am evil.

Now, I've a question..apparently it was the provincinal law that allowed for gay marriage..but..the federal level didn't recognize it or something? Could someone explain this to me?

True but isn't that what democracy is all about debating issues. Sure we can stop with all the name calling and shit. But if it stays civilized then I see no reason to lock it.

True enough. Agree to disagree then.

HLP: You'll get much more out of a debate if you go about it calmly. Persuasion works much better than ranting, there's quite enough of it on here already.


Everyone Else: Gotta Go and get rested for my travels tommorow (I hate airports) Been fun, keep partying.

Sorry, lunch break. ;)

However, you have to remember that most states have passed state constitutional amendments against Gay Marriage. Since those amendments don't violate any federal law as well as not violating the constitution, they are valid. It'll be an uphill slope and I don't think that the people bringing the lawsuit will win.
They just haven't been reviewed because until recently, we haven't had a state to produce married gay couples who then move from Mass to another state, or couples getting hittched in Canada and coming back home. No harm, no foul idea.

Actually, that bit about california will be illegal. As for your first point, I doubt it'll get that far. To many people love outdoor weddings and they'll continue.I know, but it still would BE a good idea. ;)

And actually, when Nevada started the drive-thru wedding idea, a number of mid-western states wanted to void them on the grounds that Elvis was not a churchman. Since the Constitutiton says that when one state passes a law or reconizes a contract, other states have to do the same... that's where the challenge will come from.

If they win or not, I cannot state. I will be interested in following it though for the legal ramifications.

True enough. Agree to disagree then.

HLP: You'll get much more out of a debate if you go about it calmly. Persuasion works much better than ranting, there's quite enough of it on here already.


Everyone Else: Gotta Go and get rested for my travels tommorow (I hate airports) Been fun, keep partying.

Yeah same here work in the morning and it's supposed to be hellishly HOT the next few days *sigh* Talk to everyone tomorrow until then enjoy yourselves!! :D

Good Night and Help Control The Pet Population: Have Your Pets Spayed Or Neutered!! Good Bye Everyone!!! lol :D

Sorry, lunch break. ;)


They just haven't been reviewed because until recently, we haven't had a state to produce married gay couples who then move from Mass to another state, or couples getting hittched in Canada and coming back home. No harm, no foul idea.

I know, but it still would BE a good idea. ;)

And actually, when Nevada started the drive-thru wedding idea, a number of mid-western states wanted to void them on the grounds that Elvis was not a churchman. Since the Constitutiton says that when one state passes a law or reconizes a contract, other states have to do the same... that's where the challenge will come from.

If they win or not, I cannot state. I will be interested in following it though for the legal ramifications.

What I think the States will do (and capitolized it because I'm talking about the US and not the states) will probably recognize Civil Unions. If they don't, the states will. Though states have banned gay marriage, the door is still open for Civil Unions in those states. I think that is what is going to happen personally.

Yay Canada.

*celebrates in the sudden realisation that a toque and a**less leather pants can now be worn together in public.* LOL :D

Look, someone needs to bring him the Mod's attention. I would do it personally, but it would be hypocritical as I have sort of urged him on. And on another note, he gets upset by my use of mate, but not the remark about waiting for the second testicle to drop. Fascinating...


If I am deleted, you are going down with me...

If I am deleted, you are going down with me...

Palestine, stop threatening the posters on my thread. Your behaviour is inexcusable to say the least. I'll ask you to kindly leave, please.

Palestine, stop threatening the posters on my thread. Your behaviour is inexcusable to say the least. I'll ask you to kindly leave, please.

Hey, Dobbs..Check out my post on page 18. Got a Q for you/anyone else who can answer it.

Palestine, stop threatening the posters on my thread. Your behaviour is inexcusable to say the least. I'll ask you to kindly leave, please.


I will not leave as you all are making me into a devil, when alomost everyone here has insulted or done some other malacious thing to provoke me and they have the audasity to report me?!! I think not my friend.

I will not leave as you all are making me into a devil, when alomost everyone here has insulted or done some other malacious thing to provoke me and they have the audasity to report me?!! I think not my friend.

Actually, it was how you entered this thread that started it.

I will not leave as you all are making me into a devil, when alomost everyone here has insulted or done some other malacious thing to provoke me and they have the audasity to report me?!! I think not my friend.


better go thru the thread and get all those examples now because I see darkness in your future

Actually, it was how you entered this thread that started it.


With my saying how disgusted I was, God Save the Queen, and offering my prayres to the people of Canada?

With my saying how disgusted I was, God Save the Queen, and offering my prayres to the people of Canada?

I think you said a bit more than that, and you went off on a tangent when people were criticizing your choice of words.

If you even consider a Myrth option, I'm taking away Paul Martin from you. Forever. *Cackles* Yes, I am evil.

Now, I've a question..apparently it was the provincinal law that allowed for gay marriage..but..the federal level didn't recognize it or something? Could someone explain this to me?

No, what had happened was that gay couples in various provinces took their various provincial governments to court in order to argue their right to marry was guaranteed under the Charter of Rights, and in every case, the provincial courts agreed. Same-sex marriages were already recognized in 8 out of 10 provinces nationwide, and one out of three territories.

What the Federal Liberals did was to formally state that same-sex marriage is legally recognized not just in certain provinces, but from coast-to-coast-to-coast. Don't ask me about the political machinations, I'm not half the politico people make me out to be.

I think you said a bit more than that, and you went off on a tangent when people were criticizing your choice of words.


Exactly, provoking me!

Hey, Dobbs..Check out my post on page 18. Got a Q for you/anyone else who can answer it.

I think I got it for you Drache.

Okay everybody! Prime your ignore cannons!

Look, I said I was willing to forgive you for your crude attacks. Don't make me resent my words. And while we're on the subject of words, there is no such word as malacious, it's malicious, and audacity does not contain an "s" Now, are you going to behave? Because I said I'd be willing to forgive you, but I won't hesitate from now on to report you. I think if enough of us complain, the mods will be forced to take action.

No, what had happened was that gay couples in various provinces took their various provincial governments to court in order to argue their right to marry was guaranteed under the Charter of Rights, and in every case, the provincial courts agreed. Same-sex marriages were already recognized in 8 out of 10 provinces nationwide, and one out of three territories.

What the Federal Liberals did was to formally state that same-sex marriage is legally recognized not just in certain provinces, but from coast-to-coast-to-coast. Don't ask me about the political machinations, I'm not half the politico people make me out to be.

I believe is that the reason they did it was because it was legal in most of the country so they thought that they would legalize it nationwide. Really not a bad move on their part, but and I emphise the but, we'll find out more when the next parliment elections come along if it was the best move. If they get a majority than yes, if they have a minority government, then no. We'll have to wait and see.

Exactly, provoking me!

Even though they weren't trying to provoke you. You let yourself be provoked.

No, what had happened was that gay couples in various provinces took their various provincial governments to court in order to argue their right to marry was guaranteed under the Charter of Rights, and in every case, the provincial courts agreed. Same-sex marriages were already recognized in 8 out of 10 provinces nationwide, and one out of three territories.

What the Federal Liberals did was to formally state that same-sex marriage is legally recognized not just in certain provinces, but from coast-to-coast-to-coast. Don't ask me about the political machinations, I'm not half the politico people make me out to be.


Ahh..I see. Thank you.

I think I got it for you Drache.

Okay everybody! Prime your ignore cannons!

Indeedy, thank you. Wait, you want me to do what with my cannon? *advisor leans in, whispering in my ear*Ohh..ignore cannon...Sure. *primes it*

Look, I said I was willing to forgive you for your crude attacks. Don't make me resent my words. And while we're on the subject of words, there is no such word as malacious, it's malicious, and audacity does not contain an "s" Now, are you going to behave? Because I said I'd be willing to forgive you, but I won't hesitate from now on to report you. I think if enough of us complain, the mods will be forced to take action.


Only if you you recognise that there was prevoking going on, and please, although I am good at writing and grammer, I am a terrible typer and when I am in a rush, it only gets worse

...alomost everyone here has insulted or done some other malacious thing to provoke me and they have the audasity to report me?

No, I have the audacity. 'Uncivilised Barbarian', remember?

This'll probably kick a few people in the teeth, but I don't get all the fuss about polyandrous or polygamous marriages, either.

What do you think?

This'll probably kick a few people in the teeth, but I don't get all the fuss about polyandrous or polygamous marriages, either.

What do you think?


They are un-Christian and thus, an abomination

Anybody else?

This'll probably kick a few people in the teeth, but I don't get all the fuss about polyandrous or polygamous marriages, either.

What do you think?

Or incestuous marriages.

This'll probably kick a few people in the teeth, but I don't get all the fuss about polyandrous or polygamous marriages, either.

What do you think?


Im all for it. I think that we shoudl all be able to marry multiple partners of different sexes if we so wish.

And I suppose that we should run through the streets naked as well?

Yes I like the idea of group marriages, too. Would be a wonderful way of simplifying a number of things.

And I suppose that we should run through the streets naked as well?

I'm all for this! :D

Ok, I'm outta here. Good night all.

And I suppose that we should run through the streets naked as well?

This is bad, how...? Your Bible says that God created Man in His image, and thus, Man would naturally have a form which should be cherished, wouldn't it?

I think that polyamorous relationships could work, so long as all were comfortable and in agreement to who was involved.

Incestous marriages..meh. I think that taboo exists from a deep biological imperative to preserve the gene pool from mutations. Other than that, I really don't care, so long as it's two consenting adults.

I'm all for this! :D

Ok, I'm outta here. Good night all.

Good night, Corneliu. You're welcome to come streak down Yonge St. any old time, just tell 'em Dobbsworld sent you.

Yes I like the idea of group marriages, too. Would be a wonderful way of simplifying a number of things.


I've said it before and I'll say it again:

marriage= 1 man + 1 woman

Incestous marriages..meh. I think that taboo exists from a deep biological imperative to preserve the gene pool from mutations. Other than that, I really don't care, so long as it's two consenting adults.

It's somehow a less-troubling issue where homosexuality is concerned. Funny, isn't it...?

In a decadent sort of way.

I mean, at least there's no potential for issue in an incestuous homosexual relationship.

Good Bye to all. My dad will soon be waking up for work and I have to go to bed (it is 6:14 here)

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

marriage= 1 man + 1 woman


That is the generally Christian accepted definition, yes.

It's somehow a less-troubling issue where homosexuality is concerned. Funny, isn't it...?

In a decadent sort of way.

Probably because it's more reported to happen between a male and female.

Also, there was at least one instance of it in the bible I know of. Not sure about other religious texts.

State-recognized decadence! Woohoo!! *sigh* yet another nation futhers its regression into the dark ages of morality...

State-recognized decadence! Woohoo!! *sigh* yet another nation futhers its regression into the dark ages of morality...
What's morality, but a towel failing to hide an erection.

State-recognized decadence! Woohoo!! *sigh* yet another nation futhers its regression into the dark ages of morality...

I am confused. What is decadent about gay marriage?

I am confused. What is decadent about gay marriage?


I don't want to turn this thread into another "12 reasons gay marriage is bad" thread but....Romans 1.

I don't want to turn this thread into another "12 reasons gay marriage is bad" thread but....Romans 1.


Pardon my interjection but Romans1 is a very contextual piece and with that held in mind you should re-read it. All of it.

Pardon my interjection but Romans1 is a very contextual piece and with that held in mind you should re-read it. All of it.



And, in context, it only serves to further my point :)

And, in context, it only serves to further my point :)

Point being? Do you understand what contextual means??? :confused:

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Erm...wtf?

I'm a supporter for Civil Unions Dobbsworld. I am NOT a supporter of Gay Marriage. Give them some benefits but not all benefits that a normal married couple can have.
I say we should make straits live like that for a while see how it makes them feel :rolleyes:

Anyways thanks canada for once again being a good roal model

haha, sorry, i guess that was a little off topic.

I don't want to turn this thread into another "12 reasons gay marriage is bad" thread but....Romans 1.
Thank god canada got past that BS for their legal system at least

Anyways thanks canada for once again being a good roal model



Role*.....and Canada has just degenerated further into the world of secularism. Terrible days these are.

Role*.....and Canada has just degenerated further into the world of secularism. Terrible days these are.
Sorry on my *nix machine and I dont have a spell checker

And its fine with me ... an ideal for our government to shoot for
Actualy treating people equaly

well, i'm only 11 years old, what do i know about the world, only that President Bush is sure hated by alot of people, regardless of their age

Thank god canada got past that BS for their legal system at least



Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Rofl.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
At least they are treating people fairly though ... defiantly a step forward

Actualy treating people equaly


Marriage =/= equal treatment. If so, then shouldn't the pursuit of happiness clause also apply to polygamy and polyandry?

Role*.....and Canada has just degenerated further into the world of secularism. Terrible days these are.

Sure is... if you're delusional. ;)

Marriage =/= equal treatment. If so, then shouldn't the pursuit of happiness clause also apply to polygamy and polyandry?
As a matter of fact yes it should ... maybe they will get around to that next

Role*.....and Canada has just degenerated further into the world of secularism. Terrible days these are.

Last I checked, government was supposed to be secular. “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s” and all that. But that’s just for you Neo. ;)

For most of the rest of ya’ll, we have the First amendment in the US. What do guys have in Canada?

Sure is... if you're delusional.


Yes, delusional like the majority of mankind apparently :rolleyes:

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
I have to ask, what the hell are you going to do if, say within say 5 years (a reasonable amount of time), Canada is NOT smited, falls off the Earth, turns into a pillar of salt, etc. and actually seems to be functioning as well as it even had, just now with married homosexuals?

Will you admit then that it ain't evil?

At least they are treating people fairly though ... defiantly a step forward
I agree with this, gay and lesbian people deserve the right to marraige

I have to ask, what the hell are you going to do if, say within say 5 years (a reasonable amount of time), Canada is NOT smited, falls off the Earth, turns into a pillar of salt, etc. and actually seems to be functioning as well as it even had, just now with married homosexuals?

Will you admit then that it ain't evil?




No, I'll wait until the Judgement Day for that :)

Yes, delusional like the majority of mankind apparently :rolleyes:

*skims through the history books*

For once you are right.

Yes, delusional like the majority of mankind apparently :rolleyes:
Ah no, there are 6 billion people right now, 4 billion of them are NOT Christian.

Yes, delusional like the majority of mankind apparently :rolleyes:
Popularity does not make something right

(and you have to prove that a majority of humanity dislike equal gay unions)

Since the US has a tad longer history than Canada as an independent nation, we have more accomplishments than Canada.

As for this bill, good luck with it.

As for America Doing the samething: FAT CHANCE


Man. Corny, why is it that you seem to have this compulsive need to act like an ASSHOLE all the time? Whenever I read any of these forums, any time you pop up you are acting like a total jerk. Why is that? Please, tell me, I really, really, REALLY want to know.

I mean, is it because you see your conservative bretheren as harder and harder to defend? So, you just ramp up your asshole-ishness in order to offset the groundswell of anger and resentment that conservatives of all ilks have engendered in this country, in order to make is seem like your actually going to keep your majorities in '06? What?

Ah no, there are 6 billion people right now, 4 billion of them are NOT Christian.



The majority of people are of one religion or another.

Popularity does not make something right

(and you have to prove that a majority of humanity dislike equal gay unions)


Nor does disagreeing with someone make an individual delusional. As for the virtue of the question at hand, most Americans tend to give it a thumbs down, which is at least a positive indication of some morality being left.

The majority of people are of one religion or another.
Not all religions disprove of gay marriage ... and not all people within those religions that do dislike gay marriage generally don't follow with their religion on this


Now again prove that a majority of humanity dislikes this decision

The majority of people are of one religion or another.
Splitting hairs isn't going to work here. Try again.

Nor does disagreeing with someone make an individual delusional. As for the virtue of the question at hand, most Americans tend to give it a thumbs down, which is at least a positive indication of some morality being left.
Or an indication of bigotry and hatred being left :rolleyes:

Not all religions disprove of gay marriage ... and not all people within those religions that do dislike gay marriage generally don't follow with their religion on this


Now again prove that a majority of humanity dislikes this decision


I never said religions approved of gay marriage, but, from what I gathered, his implication was that religion is delusional. About as delusional as atheism though, IMO.

Or an indication of bigotry and hatred being left :rolleyes:



My my, you certainly are one for vilification aren't you? As an ex-Christian, you should know better than that ;)

No, I'll wait until the Judgement Day for that :)

Then if you find out you've been mislead, .. well, what then? Does your God really mislead all of these people? Because I know what your saviour taught humanity, and that was to be equal. So why is it that God and his son contradict each other? Oh, my bad, I said God when I should have said man's stories. Oops.