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The Wal-Mart empire is everywhere, in the small city I live, we have three stores, plus a Sams Club, and a SuperCenter in construction. Ah conveinence....

In Tomball, there's a grand total of one Wal-Mart.

In Willowbrook, there's at least two, plus a Sam's Club. There's one in Conroe, and a Sam's Club right next to it. There's also a Wal-Mart in Spring, plus countless others all around the Houston area.

Ahh....Sam's Club....because the world just might end tomorrow...

There's probably 8 to 10 in the Austin area, as it's rather large.

None within 20 miles.

None within 20 miles.

:eek: You're kidding?

Oh, nevermind. San Fransisco.

They're building one near my house, but there was one within reasonable distance already and a Sam's Club too. It pisses me off. I don't want to have to look at a stupid Wal-Mart on the way to work. I'm a Meijer shopper.

3 with less than an hours drive, and those are the ones I know about

None within 20 miles.
We'll see how long that lasts. San Fran can't hold off the dark side forever.

None within 20 miles.
Yay! Another person from the Bay Area!

Fuck Wal Mart and all of his clones.

I
HATE
WAL :) MART

in my town there's gotta be like 5 or 6 and at least one sam's club. Fuck them all.

Always low prices...Always :)
"We save you money by not paying our workers and not making our factories pay their workers more than 20 cents an hour."

We kill people so you can save, that's the Wal :) Mart Promise :D!!!!

We'll see how long that lasts. San Fran can't hold off the dark side forever.

Dark Side?

we have everything...we got a target...walmart, marshalls, tj max,sams club,home depot, anything! its awsome...

We only have one in Porterville, but it's a very small town, and I have to work there so it should count double. :mp5:

Hehe. Here in Australia we don't have any Wal-Marts. We have "Coles" and "Woolworths", who act exactly like Wal-Mart.

I believe that there is only one WalMart in my small-town-next-to-a-major-city... I could be wrong, though.

In Prince Rupert B.C., we dont need a Wal-Mart store because IT WILL DESTROY NEARLY ALL OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES!!! :mad:

They're building one near my house, but there was one within reasonable distance already and a Sam's Club too. It pisses me off. I don't want to have to look at a stupid Wal-Mart on the way to work. I'm a Meijer shopper.

yay for the great lakes region and our silly
fred meijer. thats the first time ive seen meijer mentioned online by someoe other than the media or a relative. go you

Dark Side?
Sorry I forgot to mention I hate Wal-Mart.

I don’t shop at Wal-Mart. Frankly, I can’t stand the place. However, I am a big fan of the company. All their stores are linked on a network, and two minutes after midnight, Eastern time, the corporate headquarters know what each individual store made and what they need to re-stock. A model of efficiency if you ask me.

Hehe. Here in Australia we don't have any Wal-Marts. We have "Coles" and "Woolworths", who act exactly like Wal-Mart.

Actually Walmart is more like Kmart, Big W or Target

Actually Walmart is more like Kmart, Big W or Target
Of course, but remembering that Kmart and Target are part of Coles-Myer here (aren't they?).
I don't know who owns Big W.

Woolworths owns Big W.

None, Bay Area for the win!

We do have a CostCo and a Sams Club, tho(concord).

Bah, what makes the Bay area so special? What did you guys do to scare off Wal-Mart?

Here in Britain we have Asda (which is owned by Wal Mart) and there is about 3 within 20 miles.

Enough to shake a stick at. (one) Sadly, more are on the way, though a nearby city as well as a nearby town were successful in keeping Walmart out.

I'm a Meijer shopper.

Mmm... Meijer's.

theres an asda about 1.5 miles away. i hate asda. also theres two muckdonalds, one in asda, and one about 250 metres down the road.

The Wal-Mart empire is everywhere, in the small city I live, we have three stores, plus a Sams Club, and a SuperCenter in construction. Ah conveinence....
There are couple around in the Seattle area. I can understand why it's a couple now having just been to one for the first time when I was in Great Falls, MT. That place is like a prison commissary. I haven't seen anything like that in decades, and even then it was on a military base. I can't understand why people shop there, it's not like their prices are even that good. It's how I imagined Russians had to shop when I was growing up in the 80's.

none in the country. :D

None, Bay Area for the win!

We do have a CostCo and a Sams Club, tho(concord).
That's not wholy true. There is a Wal*Mart in Union City, which also went coo-coo for Krispy Kream, which stunned me because I didn't have any trouble finding a donut before that place opened and the donuts are f'n nasty.

There is also that Ikea in Emeryville thats 'all the rage.' The suburbs sold you out.

Now here in Santa Cruz-the closest Wal*Mart is that one in Union City (45 minutes on a good day). There is a Costco in Capitola somewhere, but Santa Cruz has repeatedly voted down big-box stores. There is a benefit, by remaining localy focused when the 'bust' happened and affected the valley just over the hill, Santa Cruz wasn't hit nearly as bad, and survived more or less intact. Right now that is biting me in the ass as I try to find cheap digs, but oh well.

No Wal-Marts on the whole island... :D
And we don't miss 'em. The island would be Ireland.

there's one down the road in Chandler's Ford - second biggest one in Britian i think
shit merchandise, shit food... and was shit back when it was ASDA too, just now the queues are bigger

This side of the pond we have Asda, a subsidiary of WalMart. And it's getting it's ass kicked by Tesco's these days. Which is just as bad :mad:

No Wal-Marts on the whole island... :D
And we don't miss 'em. The island would be Ireland.
The north has Asda poor guys.

The north has Asda poor guys.

True... I didn't know that Asda belonged to WalMart. Well, there sre none in the Republic..

Fuck Wal Mart and all of his clones.

I
HATE
WAL :) MART

in my town there's gotta be like 5 or 6 and at least one sam's club. Fuck them all.

Always low prices...Always :)
"We save you money by not paying our workers and not making our factories pay their workers more than 20 cents an hour."

We kill people so you can save, that's the Wal :) Mart Promise :D!!!!

I agree 100% lol. The British have ASDA stores. Part of the friendly Wal-Mart family. Lucky them they get to suffer as well.

hehe, theres 2 super wal-marts and one old-school wal-mart all within ten minutes of my apartment.

hehe, theres 2 super wal-marts and one old-school wal-mart all within ten minutes of my apartment.


Wow.

I only have one Walmart in the town I shop in. I remember when they opened they were doing over $10,000 an hour. The local grocery store told employees that they were going to be some layoffs. ON THE VERY FIRST DAY WALMART OPENED!

I just love seeing local businesses that were a part of the community for decades being shoved aside like trash, and Walmart has the balls to say that they are GOOD for the community. What a sick and sad joke. :headbang:

The Wal-Mart empire is everywhere, in the small city I live, we have three stores, plus a Sams Club, and a SuperCenter in construction. Ah conveinence....

Just one Wal-Mart in Placerville, CA and no Sam's Club. By the way, lately I'm finding that it's more pleasant to shop at K-Mart than at Walmart - and that's pretty bad!

No one in bus-distance. There is one in driving distance in Leverkusen. We have ALDI, LIDL and EDEKA however.

None for at least 1000 miles in any direction. Not only that but we do not have anything that remotely resembles Wal-mart. :)

The Wal-Mart Empire is everywhere....
Then Join the Rebel Alliance! Wal-Mart's only weak point is an exhaust port in their equatorial trench, that leads to the reactor core!

Here in Bermuda we have virtually no franchises. There is a Kentucky Fried Chicken, a Benneton, and Marks & Spencers, and that's it as far as I'm aware.

Oh and gas stations are Esso or Shell.

They have some law that prohibits franchises like that.
thank god!

It just came over the wire that Walmart heir John Walton has died in a plane crash.

There is also that Ikea in Emeryville thats 'all the rage.'

Got some of them hear in Australia really overpriced though.

It just came over the wire that Walmart heir John Walton has died in a plane crash.

Good riddance.

Wow.

I only have one Walmart in the town I shop in. I remember when they opened they were doing over $10,000 an hour. The local grocery store told employees that they were going to be some layoffs. ON THE VERY FIRST DAY WALMART OPENED!:

Sorry if this question sounds weird but I don't live in the US so ..... what exactly is walmart are they are discount department store\supermarket or ......

Sorry if this question sounds weird but I don't live in the US so ..... what exactly is walmart are they are discount department store\supermarket or ......

Discount store/Supermarket/Drug store/Hardware store.

It's no wonder they put everyone out of business.

Here in Bermuda we have virtually no franchises. There is a Kentucky Fried Chicken, a Benneton, and Marks & Spencers, and that's it as far as I'm aware.

Oh and gas stations are Esso or Shell.

They have some law that prohibits franchises like that.
thank god!

Thank God for restrictions on freedom.

Sorry if this question sounds weird but I don't live in the US so ..... what exactly is walmart are they are discount department store\supermarket or ......


Well it all depends on if it's a so called supercenter or not. A regular walmart has alot of clothes, appliances and some food. A supercenter has all that and a complete grocery section. Basically they are one huge organism that feeds on everything in sight. :(

yay for the great lakes region and our silly
fred meijer. thats the first time ive seen meijer mentioned online by someoe other than the media or a relative. go you
Meijer is the only thing saving us from a complete over run from WalMart. Sure Meijers also build superstores and do damage to other grocery stores but they help small businesses and put money back in the community. Hell I'd never trade Meijer for a Wal Mart.

Thank God for restrictions on freedom.
oh yes those "poor" multinationals.

No Wal-Mart just Coles, Woolworths and K-Mart.
I'm down under ...

One really really big ASDA a Wal-mart company

No Wal-Mart just Coles, Woolworths and K-Mart.
I'm down under ...

What no Big W, no Target, No Bi Lo, No Myer,No Action, not even a ALDI ;)

What no Big W, no Target, No Bi Lo, No Myer,No Action, not even a ALDI ;)

You must live in the countryside

Good riddance.
have some respect. the man died. he didnt build the walmart empire, hes just heir to it.

Aldi :d

What no Big W, no Target, No Bi Lo, No Myer,No Action, not even a ALDI ;)

Don't go shopping much :D
No ALDI, Action or Myer where I am though

You must live in the countryside

I live in north brisbane hmmmmmm I do see I few farms about ;)

oh yes those "poor" multinationals.

It doesn't matter what they are. You're all backwards assholes.

The Wal-Mart empire is everywhere, in the small city I live, we have three stores, plus a Sams Club, and a SuperCenter in construction. Ah conveinence....

Within walking distance of where I live, 2 wal*marts, Four Superstores, one Cosco, three Canadina Tire stores, Two Home Depot, Two major malls, Six major strip malls (more than 15 shops) 18 coffee shops, one leisure center, and two bus routes.

It doesn't matter what they are. You're all backwards assholes.
protecting small business how dare we! http://www.newrules.org/retail/news_archive.php?browseby=slug&slugid=194

We stop two things: We prohibit stores over 3,500 square meters (38,000 square feet) in Dublin and 3,000 square meters (32,000 square feet) in the rest of the country. Certain retail warehouses, such as do-it-yourself home centers, are allowed to build up to 6,000 square meters (65,000 square feet).

And prohibit below-cost selling.So small shops can compete, Wal-Mart seems not to like having to compete that's why they aren't here.

EDIT: Oh and disagreeing with you makes me a backward asshole? Grow up.

protecting small business how dare we! http://www.newrules.org/retail/news_archive.php?browseby=slug&slugid=194

We stop two things: We prohibit stores over 3,500 square meters (38,000 square feet) in Dublin and 3,000 square meters (32,000 square feet) in the rest of the country. Certain retail warehouses, such as do-it-yourself home centers, are allowed to build up to 6,000 square meters (65,000 square feet).

And prohibit below-cost selling.So small shops can compete, Wal-Mart seems not to like having to compete that's why they aren't here.

EDIT: Oh and disagreeing with you makes me a backward asshole? Grow up.

No, gloating about your restrictions of freedom makes you a backwards asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you people, taking away rights isn't something to be proud of.

Aussie= No Wal-Marts


We do have K-Mart, Aldi, Woolworths (about 9000 of them :( ), Coles, Big W, Franklins, Target and Big W within a 10-20 min drive.

No, gloating about your restrictions of freedom makes you a backwards asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you people, taking away rights isn't something to be proud of.
They aren't rights. I didn't know I had a right to sell things below cost so I can make the compition go out of business or that I had a right to buy a superstore.

Silly me, I didn't answer that which was asked of me. There's 1 regular Wal-Mart I can think of, two Super Wal-Marts, and a Sam's Club. They had to fit like hell to build the Super Wal-Mart that's in the city limits, God damn New Yorkers moved here (Western North Carolina) and started bitching about how it'd fuck up the community. Assholes, go back to your own shitty town.

There's about 20 within a thirty minute drive from here, but thankfully none within the city itself.

They aren't rights. I didn't know I had a right to sell things below cost so I can make the compition go out of business or that I had a right to buy a superstore.

Freedom's not a right? Conversation's over, you're an idiot.

No, gloating about your restrictions of freedom makes you a backwards asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you people, taking away rights isn't something to be proud of.

There's no "right" to open a store wherever you want. There's no "right" to sell at below costs if you want to. Communities may not be able to actually force a company like Wal-Mart to do what they want, but they can say "Get out of our town" if they don't.

Fuck Wal Mart and all of his clones.

I
HATE
WAL :) MART

in my town there's gotta be like 5 or 6 and at least one sam's club. Fuck them all.

Always low prices...Always :)
"We save you money by not paying our workers and not making our factories pay their workers more than 20 cents an hour."

We kill people so you can save, that's the Wal :) Mart Promise :D!!!!

Yeah, man, those Wal-Mart factories sure are fodder for the Upton Sinclairs of the world...

do you know how many people they employ, how many people would be jobless without Wal-Mart?

If they're just now moving to San Fran, think of all the homeless currently looking for jobs.. who'll be able to land one with Wal-Mart. And their hourly wages might not be huge, but they've got a pretty decent employee stock-purchase plan.

There's no "right" to open a store wherever you want. There's no "right" to sell at below costs if you want to. Communities may not be able to actually force a company like Wal-Mart to do what they want, but they can say "Get out of our town" if they don't.

It's a right called freedom. If they've the money and resources to do something, you've no right to keep them from doing so.

Freedom's not a right? Conversation's over, you're an idiot.
oh yes you beat me with you're comprehensive arguements.[/sarcasm]

And you seem to have a problem putting 2 sentences together.
The bold is what you read now read the rest...
They aren't rights. I didn't know I had a right to sell things below cost so I can make the compition go out of business or that I had a right to buy a superstore.

It's a right called freedom. If they've the money and resources to do something, you've no right to keep them from doing so.

So corporations have the right to do whatever they wish so long as they can afford it?

I am proud to say i have never stepped inside a Wal-Mart,i really don't like those greeters at the front doors, they creep me out. Apropos of absolutely nothing the heir to the Wal-Mart fortune just died in a plane crash.Really!!

It's a right called freedom. If they've the money and resources to do something, you've no right to keep them from doing so.
Here's right you know. There is nothing illegal nor detrimental to society with trying to create a monopoly. If we only had Wal-Marts there'd be no bitching about how they destroyed all the competition. Let's not even look at the fact that Wal Mart refuses to sell music or movies that they deem inappropriate. Just as long as Wal Marts rights are protected is all that matters. No matter how many others are taken away for it.

So corporations have the right to do whatever they wish so long as they can afford it?

So long as they don't physically harm others or restrict them of freedom. That is, a corporation can't hire a group to physically prevent you from competing with them, other than that, it's their God given right to do what they can afford.

Here's right you know. There is nothing illegal nor detrimental to society with trying to create a monopoly. If we only had Wal-Marts there'd be no bitching about how they destroyed all the competition. Let's not even look at the fact that Wal Mart refuses to sell music or movies that they deem inappropriate. Just as long as Wal Marts rights are protected is all that matters. No matter how many others are taken away for it.


PART I.

TITLE XV.
REGULATION OF TRADE

CHAPTER 93. REGULATION OF TRADE AND CERTAIN ENTERPRISES

Chapter 93: Section 6 Discouraging competition

Section 6. It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in trade or commerce, in the course thereof, to lease or make a sale or contract for sale of goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies or other commodities, patented or unpatented, for use, consumption or resale in the commonwealth, or fix a price charged therefor, or discount from, or rebate upon, such price on the condition, agreement or understanding that the lessee or purchaser thereof shall not use or deal in the goods, wares, merchandise, machinery, supplies or other commodities of a competitor or competitors of the lessor or seller, where the effect of such lease, sale or contract for sale or such condition, agreement or understanding may be to lessen substantially competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of trade or commerce in the commonwealth.

Well it's at least illegal where I live.

No, gloating about your restrictions of freedom makes you a backwards asshole. What the fuck is wrong with you people, taking away rights isn't something to be proud of.
Freedom's not a right? Conversation's over, you're an idiot.
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So long as they don't physically harm others or restrict them of freedom. That is, a corporation can't hire a group to physically prevent you from competing with them, other than that, it's their God given right to do what they can afford.

That's patently false. If a community does not wish a corporation like Wal-Mart to operate within their borders, then it is entirely within THEIR rights to prevent that. The corporation does not have a right to exist wherever it wishes.

That's patently false. If a community does not wish a corporation like Wal-Mart to operate within their borders, then it is entirely within THEIR rights to prevent that. The corporation does not have a right to exist wherever it wishes.

Yes, if a community doesn't wish to allow group a to do action b, it's their right, so long as they're the majority. If the majority wishes to disallow group Black people from living free in their nation, it's their right. Eh?

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'kay. I just hail from an Internet forum where "Anything & Everything" means exactly that. I'll be more mindful.

One in our very small town. How many local Businesses did it kill? Not a one. And it's the only place to get games in an hour's drive(10 minutes away by car), and all the employees like their jobs.

Yes, if a community doesn't wish to allow group a to do action b, it's their right, so long as they're the majority. If the majority wishes to disallow group Black people from living free in their nation, it's their right. Eh?
Are you equating civil rights with a single corporations right?

Yes, if a community doesn't wish to allow group a to do action b, it's their right, so long as they're the majority. If the majority wishes to disallow group Black people from living free in their nation, it's their right. Eh?

You're honestly comparing civil rights to the rights of a corporation? That's sad.

That's patently false. If a community does not wish a corporation like Wal-Mart to operate within their borders, then it is entirely within THEIR rights to prevent that. The corporation does not have a right to exist wherever it wishes.


I saw a special on this. It showed people in a particular town resisting the opening of a new Walmart. They were able to block it. They felt that the Walmart would cripple the locally owned business already in place there for many years. (rightfully so)

As a result, a neighboring town accepted the Walmart. Most of the locally owned businesses in the town that prevented the Walmart from opening folded any way-they still couldnt compete with Walmart and survive. The town also lost tremendous sales tax revenue.

1 Sams
1 Walmart

Bout 75 k people in the area (I live out of town but yeah)

I saw a special on this. It showed people in a particular town resisting the opening of a new Walmart. They were able to block it. They felt that the Walmart would cripple the locally owned business already in place there for many years. (rightfully so)

As a result, a neighboring town accepted the Walmart. Most of the locally owned businesses in the town that prevented the Walmart from opening folded any way-they still couldnt compete with Walmart and survive. The town also lost tremendous sales tax revenue.

That was entirely their choice. It's sad that those places still got ran out of business, but it shows you that the company can't just open up wherever they want.

I got a fucking Supercenter here in a town of 30,000. What's funny is that all the workers are minorities, mostly hispanic. What's even weirder is that the state capitial, which has about 500,000 people, has about 3 Wal-Mart's.

BTW, our Wal-Mart killed the local K-Mart. That's about it.
PS, Jesus, I have 8 diffrent hardware stores! And only 1 is a Wal-Mart!

You're honestly comparing civil rights to the rights of a corporation? That's sad.

A corporation is made up of people, it's sad that you people forget that.

A corporation is made up of people, it's sad that you people forget that.
Yet the corporate entity is not a person.

That was entirely their choice. It's sad that those places still got ran out of business, but it shows you that the company can't just open up wherever they want.

No-you're right. They can be effectively blocked.

Yet the corporate entity is not a person.

What does that have to do with anything? The rights of the people who run the company are not superseded by the rights of anyone else.

What does that have to do with anything? The rights of the people who run the company are not superseded by the rights of anyone else.
Their paychecks and bonuses stay the same whether or not a store opens in one town. Only the corporation itself is affected. Not the current employees.

A corporation is made up of people, it's sad that you people forget that.
A limited corporation is a seperate entity to the investors and managers.

Their paychecks and bonuses stay the same whether or not a store opens in one town. Only the corporation itself is affected. Not the current employees.

Now you've strayed entirely from the conversation at hand. I think. I honestly don't know.

A limited corporation is a seperate entity to the investors and managers.

Err, what? A corporation can't do anything without input of the people who run it. Thus, any action it takes is the action of people, people whose freedom ought to be protected.

Now you've strayed entirely from the conversation at hand. I think. I honestly don't know.
The whole thing is that corporate rights are far different from civil rights. I was making the distinguishment from the corporation and any people involved with it.

A corporation is made up of people, it's sad that you people forget that.

The individuals within the corporation are not having any of their civil liberties violated by telling the corporation itself it cannot conduct business in any manner it pleases. A businessman does not have the right to conduct business as he pleases. It is no different for a sole entrepeneur than it is for a multinational conglomerate.

Err, what? A corporation can't do anything without input of the people who run it. Thus, any action it takes is the action of people, people whose freedom ought to be protected.
Well then when a company goes bankrupt then all those people money should pay off it's debts but no they don't because the corporation is seperate from those who own and control it.

The individuals within the corporation are not having any of their civil liberties violated by telling the corporation itself it cannot conduct business in any manner it pleases. A businessman does not have the right to conduct business as he pleases. It is no different for a sole entrepeneur than it is for a multinational conglomerate.

Any man has the right to freedom. Including the businessman and his right to freely do business. Just so long as he does not impede the rights of others, which happens constantly by our own governments.

I have 2 Walmarts within 20 minutes and they are building a 2 more Super Walmarts. The Sam's Club just vacated their old huge building to fill in wetlands and create huger one. Thanks for the vacant eyesore!

People are a buzz about China trying to buy Unocal, the 8th largest Oil company in America. Is it any wonder? Walmart forces American manufactures down on price and out of business. The money goes straight to China. I am guessing that 75% of goods and profits of Walmart are China products. The new face of national government is China's: Free Market economy, High government control. Great for multinational corporations! Bad for democracy. :headbang:

Well then when a company goes bankrupt then all those people money should pay off it's debts but no they don't because the corporation is seperate from those who own and control it.

You're talking about legality I think, something I've yet to mention and am not going to bother with.

Err, what? A corporation can't do anything without input of the people who run it. Thus, any action it takes is the action of people, people whose freedom ought to be protected.

Freedom to what?

Fortunately in my paticular area they have been blocked from building them, but the Kansas City area in general is infested.

Freedom to what?

Conduct business in any manner they choose.

Freedom's not a right? Conversation's over, you're an idiot.



Your the idiot. Maybe you should ask what he is trying to say before opening your mouth.

Conduct business in any manner they choose.

There is no such right or freedom in this nation.

There is no such right or freedom in this nation.

Freedom is a natural right. I've already acknowledged it's being trampled on in this nation.

Freedom is a natural right. I've already acknowledged it's being trampled on in this nation.

There's no natural right to operate a business in any manner you please.

In Prince Rupert B.C., we dont need a Wal-Mart store because IT WILL DESTROY NEARLY ALL OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES!!! :mad:

that's the thing about Wal-Mart...

while they do provide low prices for customers, they are able to do so, in part, because they almost completely control their wholesaler/manufacturer relationships.

they have the pull to be able to literally TELL a wholesaler how much Wal-Mart will pay for x amount of product.. and if the wholesaler doesn't agree, they're out on their ass.

No Walmart or Asda here in France yet.

Apparently they don't feel ready to take on Carrefour which already dominates the French hypermarkets.

There's no natural right to operate a business in any manner you please.

To be restricted from doing so is to be restricted in your freedom. Is your skull made of concrete?

I read somewhere online recently that if the government wants to take control of your property for "economic development" they can, without your consent. Like, if you're trying to block the walmart coming in, they can take away your house. And the supreme court says its okay.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/ its funny that when this story came out, it didn't make it to the front page of CNN, but was pushed to the back links.

No longer will people be able to block Walmart from coming in.

Now, with all this talk of how corporations "help people" tell me how that is? They essentially employ slave labor in factories, at least walmart does, and they barely pay their workers in the store.

To compare corporations rights with peoples rights is complete ignorance.

I read somewhere online recently that if the government wants to take control of your property for "economic development" they can, without your consent. Like, if you're trying to block the walmart coming in, they can take away your house. And the supreme court says its okay.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/ its funny that when this story came out, it didn't make it to the front page of CNN, but was pushed to the back links.

No longer will people be able to block Walmart from coming in.

Now, with all this talk of how corporations "help people" tell me how that is? They essentially employ slave labor in factories, at least walmart does, and they barely pay their workers in the store.

To compare corporations rights with peoples rights is complete ignorance.

:headbang: Forget it, I give up. This won't make a difference anyway.

:headbang: Forget it, I give up. This won't make a difference anyway.


I get what you're trying to say, but had you been more open in the beginning, you may have convinced someone. From the start, you were kind of sarcastic and mean about it. next time, approach it differently and people won't be offended before you even open your mouth.

And that wasnt flaming it was... uh.. Constructive criticism

To be restricted from doing so is to be restricted in your freedom. Is your skull made of concrete?

Your use of the obscure and undefinable "freedom" is ridiculous. Perhaps in a time before human civilization, man had the freedom to do whatever he wished, but in society no such right exists. Man frequently sacrifices freedoms for the safeties of civilization.

Your use of the obscure and undefinable "freedom" is ridiculous. Perhaps in a time before human civilization, man had the freedom to do whatever he wished, but in society no such right exists. Man frequently sacrifices freedoms for the safeties of civilization.


13,581.....thats crazy....

But anyway...I agree!!!

13,581.....thats crazy....

But anyway...I agree!!!

Well, check out the honorary title. Spam forum explains everything

Well, check out the honorary title. Spam forum explains everything

I don't post in the spam forum. The only posts I even have in the spam forum are posts I made in threads here that got moved to the spam forum.

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Now that the Supreme Court essentially cleared eminient domain to be used in cases where tax revenue is "public use", (talk about a stretch), I wonder how many places that Wal-Mart was publicly protested into not building, will build now anyway using this SCOTUS precedent.

I have a ton by me.. Fair Lakes (2 min), Burke (10 min), two in low-income Manassas (15 min), Sterling (15 min), Woodbridge (25 min), and Alexandria (25 min).

Plenty more 30m-1h away, but 7 within a half-hour drive... tell me that's not slightly out of hand. :headbang:

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Here in Plattsburgh, NY...we have a Wal-Mart Supercenter and a Sam's Club right next door to each other. And parking is HELL! :mp5:

I read somewhere online recently that if the government wants to take control of your property for "economic development" they can, without your consent. Like, if you're trying to block the walmart coming in, they can take away your house. And the supreme court says its okay.


http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/ its funny that when this story came out, it didn't make it to the front page of CNN, but was pushed to the back links.

No longer will people be able to block Walmart from coming in.

Now, with all this talk of how corporations "help people" tell me how that is? They essentially employ slave labor in factories, at least walmart does, and they barely pay their workers in the store.

To compare corporations rights with peoples rights is complete ignorance.

there is a fairly simple way to make sure that Wal-Mart leaves soon after they arrive (assuming the people are pissed that Wal-Mart forced their way into a town):

DON'T SHOP THERE!

If Wal-Mart sees that a store is losing a bunch of money, you think they'll keep it open?

BOYCOTT THE STORE if you don't like it and want them out of your town.

BECAUSE competition exists in this country, consumers dictate the success and failure of companies. Keep the mom and pop stores open by keeping your business with them... and ignoring Wal-Mart. And your Wal-Mart will close.

One within city limits, 5 within what I would call "the area", and 11 in what the website defines as "near" but you know, I don't think after an hour's drive on the freeway you're still "near" where you started.

there is a fairly simple way to make sure that Wal-Mart leaves soon after they arrive (assuming the people are pissed that Wal-Mart forced their way into a town):

DON'T SHOP THERE!

If Wal-Mart sees that a store is losing a bunch of money, you think they'll keep it open?

BOYCOTT THE STORE if you don't like it and want them out of your town.

BECAUSE competition exists in this country, consumers dictate the success and failure of companies. Keep the mom and pop stores open by keeping your business with them... and ignoring Wal-Mart. And your Wal-Mart will close.

They actually do keep their stores running in the red for far longer than you would expect, because they have the money from all their other stores to make it feasible. Eventually I suppose you could run a Wal-Mart out of business, but they are capable of operating with losses for years before they cut and run.

that's the thing about Wal-Mart...

while they do provide low prices for customers, they are able to do so, in part, because they almost completely control their wholesaler/manufacturer relationships.

they have the pull to be able to literally TELL a wholesaler how much Wal-Mart will pay for x amount of product.. and if the wholesaler doesn't agree, they're out on their ass.

Yes, and that is a direct violation of the Sherman anti trust act and it's related acts. Walmart will fall eventually but the problem is they are allowed to lobby (bribe) politicians who block enforcement of of it. Even when the time comes that we have a political climate which will enforce the laws, it will still take a minimum of 10 years before any relief can be obtained. The bottom line is, get used to it because no one is listening.

They actually do keep their stores running in the red for far longer than you would expect, because they have the money from all their other stores to make it feasible. Eventually I suppose you could run a Wal-Mart out of business, but they are capable of operating with losses for years before they cut and run.

operating at a loss... with customers.

what if nobody bought anything at a store?

wouldn't they take off?

this is unrealistic, but let's suppose literally everyone in a fairly small town got together on a real boycott. Would Wal-Mart be foolish enough to keep a store open... a welfare case, of sorts, since its costs would have to be paid for out of some general Wal-Mart fund?

I got a fucking Supercenter here in a town of 30,000. What's funny is that all the workers are minorities, mostly hispanic. What's even weirder is that the state capitial, which has about 500,000 people, has about 3 Wal-Mart's.

BTW, our Wal-Mart killed the local K-Mart. That's about it.
PS, Jesus, I have 8 diffrent hardware stores! And only 1 is a Wal-Mart!


Hehehe our town has under 5,000 people and we have a Supercenter only because it's off a main artery in the state of Michigan.

operating at a loss... with customers.

what if nobody bought anything at a store?

wouldn't they take off?

this is unrealistic, but let's suppose literally everyone in a fairly small town got together on a real boycott. Would Wal-Mart be foolish enough to keep a store open... a welfare case, of sorts, since its costs would have to be paid for out of some general Wal-Mart fund?

Good luck. That's like convincing people that a $400 Dell will NOT play every game coming out in the next five years.

operating at a loss... with customers.

what if nobody bought anything at a store?

wouldn't they take off?

this is unrealistic, but let's suppose literally everyone in a fairly small town got together on a real boycott. Would Wal-Mart be foolish enough to keep a store open... a welfare case, of sorts, since its costs would have to be paid for out of some general Wal-Mart fund?

I guess if the store had zero customers, then they might leave. But that's the sort of thing that they'd study BEFORE they chose to open a store in that town. If they thought that such a massive organized boycott would take place, they wouldn't bother. If they thought a smaller boycott would exist, but they would still get business, they could and probably would try to outlast the boycott. They have the money to do that.

Uh. Im in Arkansas...and theres like a Walmart every 500 yards. Seriously. Walmart...Sams Club...Walmart Neighborhood Grocery....

Hehehe our town has under 5,000 people and we have a Supercenter only because it's off a main artery in the state of Michigan.

that's just it, there's good and bad in Wal-Mart... they're hiring hispanics, some of whom are probably fairly new to the country. so instead of going on welfare, these people now have solid jobs and a solid base from which to begin their lives as Americans.

Assuming the people from whom the immigrant hispanics (talking about those who are new to the country) have taken those Wal-Mart jobs are able to hold work elsewhere, nobody is hurt and the hispanics are helped greatly.

now BOYCOTT it and put all the Wal-Mart workers on the street. hehe j/k

Uh. Im in Arkansas...and theres like a Walmart every 500 yards. Seriously. Walmart...Sams Club...Walmart Neighborhood Grocery....

That's because Walmart is based in Arkanas. And companies that stock them all have to send their products there before it goes to stores. The Plano Molding Company's HQ and main factory are in the town next to ours, and their main warehouse is in our town. To get products to the Wal*Mart less then a mile down the road, they first have to ship everything to Arkansas, and then ALL the back right past the HQ to the Wal*Mart.

Hehehe our town has under 5,000 people and we have a Supercenter only because it's off a main artery in the state of Michigan.

Aaw, but no meijer?

Uh. Im in Arkansas...and theres like a Walmart every 500 yards. Seriously. Walmart...Sams Club...Walmart Neighborhood Grocery....


Birthplace of Walmart :)

Aaw, but no meijer?


Nope we basically have Walmart, a Super K (which is dying.. gee I wonder why?) A sears retail store and a brand spanking new home depot that is killing the two local hardware stores. We would have had a meijer instead of Walmart but Walmart paid alot more for the land.

The only two businesses that have died since we got our Wal*mart was a Pawn Shop that sucked, and a Resturaunt that sucked. In other words, the only Businesses that have died in our town, died because they needed to.

we have 1 walmart and 2 sams clubs

Haha you poor souls. I live in Sweden and we dont have any Walmart or any other superstore (yet).

Err okay we have some big store outside of town but they're not that popular becouse they aren't that much cheaper. (In Sweden we have very hard employing rules)

There's one supercenter in my town (unfortunately) and a regular walmart in another city near mine. Theres at least 2 wal-marts in another city about 15 miles north, and at least one sams club. Im sure theres more coming too. Sadly.

In the United States a Corporation cannot build wherever they please. They have to go through a planning and zoning comission in the town of where they want to build. These comissions are made up of roughly a dozen or so people who live in the town and they vote on what they wish.

Then their decision goes to the local (village, town, city, etc.) government of where they live and is looked throughly over again. It is the local government that has the final say of where they can build and how they can build their store. If the local government denies them the building permits to build within their town boundries, then that company can not reside in that town.


Thats how things run in the US.



Edit: And there is only 1 Walmart in my town. But most of the stuff i buy are computer items and i get them either from the internet or from Best Buy.

In the United States a Corporation cannot build wherever they please. They have to go through a planning and zoning comission in the town of where they want to build. These comissions are made up of roughly a dozen or so people who live in the town and they vote on what they wish.

Then their decision goes to the local (village, town, city, etc.) government of where they live and is looked throughly over again. It is the local government that has the final say of where they can build and how they can build their store. If the local government denies them the building permits to build within their town boundries, then that company can not reside in that town.


Thats how things run in the US.



Edit: And there is only 1 Walmart in my town. But most of the stuff i buy are computer items and i get them either from the internet or from Best Buy.


They will just take them to court and shove the store down their throats. Case in point Temperance, Michigan. The small town kept fighting and fighting and lo and behold a Walmart still is going up.


Walmart for those of you who do not know owns thousands and thousands of acres in undeveloped real estate across the United States and Canada. Just waiting to build when the time is right.

Well

The town were i grew up fought Wal-Mart for 2 years and used a "Their landscaping didn't fall into village guidelines" and Wal-Mart lost the court battle.


Allthough Sam's Club is comming to that town and their proposed landscaping and building meets all village guidelines. They just need to send in their final proposal.

Well

The town were i grew up fought Wal-Mart for 2 years and used a "Their landscaping didn't fall into village guidelines" and Wal-Mart lost the court battle.


Allthough Sam's Club is comming to that town and their proposed landscaping and building meets all village guidelines. They just need to send in their final proposal.


I just hope that Walmart has really given up shoving a store in your town.

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Jealous?

I wasn't even in a Wal Mart until about 2 months ago, when I was in Indiana.

Seriously, I wasn't in a Wal Mart until I was 15.

none as i live in england however there is an asda about 20 mile away

on one of my yearly trips to florida i spotted a bumper sticker saying "Mal-Wart, source of cheap plastic crap." Is this really the case?

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I just kick so much ass I forget there are rules sometimes.

We have ONE Wal Mart here, in Rimouski. It covers a population of 250,000 inhabitants (the WHOLE region), in a 300 km radius.
When the Wal Mart opened, a few stores downtown closed down -- but they were already moribund. The old city center has been renovated over the last years, so people still prefer shopping there than outside the city, on that huge asphalt wasteland.
Of course the Wal Mart is located outside the city -- right beside the highway 20. Problem is, highway 20 was designed so that truck traffic (from logging and other industries) would avoid downtown Rimouski. So basically, when people go to the Wal Mart, they don't SEE the city, they totally avoid it. This is a bit sad, I think. We have a very beautiful city.
Overall the Wal Mart hasn't hurt the local economy too much. But it's a special case. This city had a real need in new stores, because the commercial sector was growing slower than the population. But still, I would have prefer something smaller, less gray, and located in a human way. Right now it's TOTALLY impossible to walk to the Wal Mart; it REQUIRES a car. The 5000 University students are pissed off.

I just kick so much ass I forget there are rules sometimes.

If you want to make friends you should change that attitude. You've been warned MANY times that you shouldn't flame others, and you need to listen if you want to stay.

If you want to make friends you should change that attitude. You've been warned MANY times that you shouldn't flame others, and you need to listen if you want to stay.
mmmm listen to the penguin man of wiseness :)

Well, within 25 miles of where I live there are three "regular" Wal-Marts and six Supercenters, plus two Sam's Clubs.

I can't really say that the three locations in my actual town have done a whole lot to adversely affect the local economy. My town is a commercial hub in my area of the state, and there is more than enough buisness to go around.

Local hardware and grocery stores are doing fine. Target and Shopko have actually expanded.

About the only buisness that isn't doing well is K-Mart. :p

But yeah...we're infested. :eek:

We have ONE Wal Mart here, in Rimouski. It covers a population of 250,000 inhabitants (the WHOLE region), in a 300 km radius.
When the Wal Mart opened, a few stores downtown closed down -- but they were already moribund. The old city center has been renovated over the last years, so people still prefer shopping there than outside the city, on that huge asphalt wasteland.
Of course the Wal Mart is located outside the city -- right beside the highway 20. Problem is, highway 20 was designed so that truck traffic (from logging and other industries) would avoid downtown Rimouski. So basically, when people go to the Wal Mart, they don't SEE the city, they totally avoid it. This is a bit sad, I think. We have a very beautiful city.
Overall the Wal Mart hasn't hurt the local economy too much. But it's a special case. This city had a real need in new stores, because the commercial sector was growing slower than the population. But still, I would have prefer something smaller, less gray, and located in a human way. Right now it's TOTALLY impossible to walk to the Wal Mart; it REQUIRES a car. The 5000 University students are pissed off.

cripes, one W-M for a diameter of 375 miles? Where are you again? hehe

cripes, one W-M for a diameter of 375 miles? Where are you again? hehe
Darn, I have just realized that there is one Wal Mart in Matane and one in Riviere-du-Loup as well. But Matane is 150 km away and RDL is 250 km in the other direction, still! There is none to the east of Matane.

So in reality (by combining the 2 regions of the Gaspe Peninsula) it's:
3 Wal-Marts
850 km
350,000 inhabitants

Not bad. We're lucky the distances are so great.
LOL

I love all these "Oh my god there are six Wal-Marts in a 25 mile radius from me!" There are 16 within 25 miles of me.

There are 16 within 25 miles of me.

One word: Yeesh.

One word: Yeesh.

The twentieth-furthest store from me, according to the Wal-Mart website, is 31.53 miles away. The site only lists 20 stores, so I have no idea how many would be within 50 or 100 miles. I'm willing to bet over 50.

The twentieth-furthest store from me, according to the Wal-Mart website, is 31.53 miles away. The site only lists 20 stores, so I have no idea how many would be within 50 or 100 miles. I'm willing to bet over 50.

Ah, yes. Gotta love corporatism.

Ah, yes. Gotta love corporatism.

I think the relative population density has a lot to do with it. There are a LOT more people per square mile up here than in most of the rest of the country, so even though there's all those Wal-Marts crammed in around me, they probably each service the same amount of people as the more spread out Wal-Marts.

I think each Wal Mart covers a population of about 100,000 persons.
Proof? In many regions of Canada, they don't bother opening a store.
But in densely populated areas, I think the 1/100K ratio works.

I think each Wal Mart covers a population of about 100,000 persons.
Proof? In many regions of Canada, they don't bother opening a store.
But in densely populated areas, I think the 1/100K ratio works.

Well Greater Boston is 5.8 million people, so there should be 58 stores.

Yeah, man, those Wal-Mart factories sure are fodder for the Upton Sinclairs of the world...

do you know how many people they employ, how many people would be jobless without Wal-Mart?

If they're just now moving to San Fran, think of all the homeless currently looking for jobs.. who'll be able to land one with Wal-Mart. And their hourly wages might not be huge, but they've got a pretty decent employee stock-purchase plan.
I'm not talking about factories in the U.S. I'm talking about exploiting the desparity of third world countries...And the homeless will be able to remain homeless after getting even a full time job at Wal Mart. The people who make the clothes you buy at Wal Mart don't make enough money even to buy meats.

Do you know how many small businesses Wal :) Mart has run out of business? Lots. The small business I work for is in chapter 11 bankruptcy thanks to Wal :) Mart and other companies like Wal :) Mart.

Wal :) Mart is a stain on American business and typical of laizze-faire style capitalism.

In my town of Wal-Mart, we live in Wal-Mart. I enjoy Wal-Mart savings and everything is Wal-Marty! We all Wal-Mart our Wal-Mart! Wal-Mart!

Well Greater Boston is 5.8 million people, so there should be 58 stores.
Only 20 stores in Greater Boston. (I checked!!! LOL)

Darn, the relation is not linear.

I guess if the store had zero customers, then they might leave. But that's the sort of thing that they'd study BEFORE they chose to open a store in that town. If they thought that such a massive organized boycott would take place, they wouldn't bother. If they thought a smaller boycott would exist, but they would still get business, they could and probably would try to outlast the boycott. They have the money to do that.
It seems that the surest way to close down a Wal*Mart is to get the employees to unionize. Once that happens, bye-bye Wal*Mart. Just sit outside their hiring cattle call and get people to sign up to the union as soon as their hired and poof, they're gone.

It seems that the surest way to close down a Wal*Mart is to get the employees to unionize. Once that happens, bye-bye Wal*Mart. Just sit outside their hiring cattle call and get people to sign up to the union as soon as their hired and poof, they're gone.
Happened in Jonquiere, QC.
Double gain: Wal Mart closes down AND they look bad.
Isn't life grand.

1 Wal-Mart in my town. Another is probably going up near where I live about 5 miles( if it is even 5 miles.. i think it is less than 5) from it in near future close to the new Dell plant and neighborhoods that's being built here. Target is building a store where the K-Mart use to be before Wal-Mart came in.

S. Main St. in K-ville has about everything needed. The Union Cross area (where Dell is) will be like S. Main in near future.

Harrisonburg, Virginia. The largest Wally World on the East Coast. Heaven help us.

no wal-marts. but on the topic of buisness being blocked from being built. in the blue mountains they stoped a Mcdonalds being built for a while. sadly now their poping up everywhere.

no wal-marts. but on the topic of buisness being blocked from being built. in the blue mountains they stoped a Mcdonalds being built for a while. sadly now their poping up everywhere.

That is a real shame to ruin what is most likely a beautiful place.
:(

In Tomball, there's a grand total of one Wal-Mart.

In Willowbrook, there's at least two, plus a Sam's Club. There's one in Conroe, and a Sam's Club right next to it. There's also a Wal-Mart in Spring, plus countless others all around the Houston area.
How big are these Wal-Marts?

I live in Ireland so thankfully we have none. We have Tesco (large British supermarket chain) here.