NationStates Jolt Archive


Split from: The feminist cover-up - don't be fooled!

British Socialism
27-06-2005, 23:39
Good points there. Here I thought our tax money was going to buy Pez dispensers.

Its not? Damn, im not paying taxes.
Refused Party Program
27-06-2005, 23:39
Here I thought our tax money was going to buy Pez dispensers.

Why aren't your tax dollars going towards Pez dispensers?!
BlackKnight_Poet
27-06-2005, 23:42
Its not? Damn, im not paying taxes.


Me either at least not until I get the foot high talking Snoopy pez dispenser. ;)
BlackKnight_Poet
27-06-2005, 23:53
I like to start a discussion and then sit back and watch people rip each other's heads off.


That's only really fun at family functions after everyone has had a few to many. :D
British Socialism
27-06-2005, 23:55
How about Anarchy? ;)

I hate anarchists...brainless....
Roshni
27-06-2005, 23:56
That's only really fun at family functions after everyone has had a few to many. :D
Meh, my folks don't drink so I'll never see that happen.
BlackKnight_Poet
27-06-2005, 23:58
Meh, my folks don't drink so I'll never see that happen.


My step father has something once in a while. Now at the family functions EVERYONE drinks lol. My family is loaded with alcoholics. I usually sit by the pool and laugh as they get into politics and religion.
Jibea
27-06-2005, 23:58
I hate anarchists...brainless....

I don't like the new sense of the word anarchist (as governmentless people are naturally evil :eek: ), but you have to respect their ideals (no government taking away their property, but then again that neighbor might try something funny some day...), but they are not brainless, they are like libertarians, except for the government part.
Mirchaz
27-06-2005, 23:59
That's only really fun at family functions after everyone has had a few to many. :D

naw, i'd rather have a peaceful family reunion. kinda makes me mad when family members start arguing about taxes over Thanksgiving dinner.
Roshni
27-06-2005, 23:59
My step father has something once in a while. Now at the family functions EVERYONE drinks lol. My family is loaded with alcoholics. I usually sit by the pool and laugh as they get into politics and religion.
Yeah, my family don't drink but they do tend to get a little rowdy when they start debating politics and religion. Crazy brown people.
Refused Party Program
28-06-2005, 00:00
I don't like the new sense of the word anarchist (as governmentless people are naturally evil :eek: ), but you have to respect their ideals (no government taking away their property, but then again that neighbor might try something funny some day...), but they are not brainless, they are like libertarians, except for the government part.

Anarchists are libertarians. Only recently have free-marketeers hi-jacked the term.
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:01
I don't like the new sense of the word anarchist (as governmentless people are naturally evil :eek: ), but you have to respect their ideals (no government taking away their property, but then again that neighbor might try something funny some day...), but they are not brainless, they are like libertarians, except for the government part.

Anarchism is stupid because they actually think that the state wouldnt succumb to military despotism within a week. They think they could do without policing. Its an idealist philosophy that would never work and would only end up in a general reduction of living standards for nigh on everyone
BlackKnight_Poet
28-06-2005, 00:05
naw, i'd rather have a peaceful family reunion. kinda makes me mad when family members start arguing about taxes over Thanksgiving dinner.

True. That's one reason I really pick and choose what events I go to.
Jibea
28-06-2005, 00:06
Anarchism is stupid because they actually think that the state wouldnt succumb to military despotism within a week. They think they could do without policing. Its an idealist philosophy that would never work and would only end up in a general reduction of living standards for nigh on everyone

Kindof like democracy, but we are told that it does work.
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:09
Kindof like democracy, but we are told that it does work.

Hardly, how many despots have derived from democracy? None - if they are elected they arent despots. And what else precisely is better for living standards?
Jibea
28-06-2005, 00:14
Hardly, how many despots have derived from democracy? None - if they are elected they arent despots. And what else precisely is better for living standards?

Um, lets see, Caesar, Adolf Hitler, and Louis Napolean III were elected democratically. Lets see, we know what happened to Caesar, Hitler, and Napolean III.
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:16
Um, lets see, Caesar, Adolf Hitler, and Louis Napolean III were elected democratically. Lets see, we know what happened to Caesar, Hitler, and Napolean III.

Caesar was not elected, he declared war on the republic and seized power. There was no democracy in Rome, it was a Senatorial Oligarchy.

Hitler was elected yet was not a despot, a despot is one who has power but has not gained it through legitimate means.

Dont know enough about Napoleon really but as with Hitler if he was elected he was not a despot.

Always establish the difference between dictator and despot.
BlackKnight_Poet
28-06-2005, 00:16
Um, lets see, Caesar, Adolf Hitler, and Louis Napolean III were elected democratically. Lets see, we know what happened to Caesar, Hitler, and Napolean III.


You beat me to it dangit. All valid example except Caesar I think. Didn't he break the law and lead his army into Rome?
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:18
You beat me to it dangit. All valid example except Caesar I think. Didn't he break the law and lead his army into Rome?

Yes :)
Jibea
28-06-2005, 00:20
You beat me to it dangit. All valid example except Caesar I think. Didn't he break the law and lead his army into Rome?

No, he merely broke the law to take power, but he was liked before anyway.
Mirchaz
28-06-2005, 00:21
Um, lets see, Caesar, Adolf Hitler, and Louis Napolean III were elected democratically. Lets see, we know what happened to Caesar, Hitler, and Napolean III.

Quote: Originally Posted by Gramnonia
Oh, and if women ever took over all three branches of government, plus a majority of the Fortune 500 companies, that wouldn't be a sign that the slide toward matriarchy is beginning, that would mean that matriarchy was already here.



Whereas the current dominance of men in these areas isn't an indication of patriarchical influences?
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Originally Posted by Free Soviets
Long live the hypothetical participation of the Refused Party Program!



see what i'm talking about Gramnonia? a different discussion entirely. o well, i didn't want to debate the domestic violence case anyway :P ya'll have fun talking about when women will start rulling the world.
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:21
No, he merely broke the law to take power, but he was liked before anyway.

That doesnt mean that he was democratically elected, that just gave him the means to hold power until the Senators stabbed him to death lol
Jibea
28-06-2005, 00:22
Caesar was not elected, he declared war on the republic and seized power. There was no democracy in Rome, it was a Senatorial Oligarchy.

Hitler was elected yet was not a despot, a despot is one who has power but has not gained it through legitimate means.

Dont know enough about Napoleon really but as with Hitler if he was elected he was not a despot.

Always establish the difference between dictator and despot.

A despot is an absolute monarch, or ruler with absolute power.
All dictators are despots, but not all despots are dictators (like squares and rhombuses/rectangles/parallelogram.).
British Socialism
28-06-2005, 00:27
A despot is an absolute monarch, or ruler with absolute power.
All dictators are despots, but not all despots are dictators (like squares and rhombuses/rectangles/parallelogram.).

A despot is a tyrant which by original definition means one who gains power illegitimately. Anyway Caesar Hitler and Napoleon certainly didnt have absolute power but thats another debate. Anyway by any means, democracy only allows dictators if they are a good thing which they all probably were in terms of the country that elected them. Dictatorship under some was the best thing that happened to Rome, Hitler did far better for Germany than democracy did.
Jibea
28-06-2005, 00:31
A despot is a tyrant which by original definition means one who gains power illegitimately. Anyway Caesar Hitler and Napoleon certainly didnt have absolute power but thats another debate. Anyway by any means, democracy only allows dictators if they are a good thing which they all probably were in terms of the country that elected them. Dictatorship under some was the best thing that happened to Rome, Hitler did far better for Germany than democracy did.

Dictionary.com is a man's 100th or so best friend or friend or greatest invention, I should make a list one day.

des·pot Audio pronunciation of "despot" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dspt)
n.

1. A ruler with absolute power.
2. A person who wields power oppressively; a tyrant.
3.
1. A Byzantine emperor or prince.
2. An Eastern Orthodox bishop or patriarch.


dic·ta·tor Audio pronunciation of "dictator" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dkttr, dk-t-)
n.

1.
1. An absolute ruler.
2. A tyrant; a despot.
2. An ancient Roman magistrate appointed temporarily to deal with an immediate crisis or emergency.
3. One who dictates: These initials are those of the dictator of the letter.
Bitchkitten
28-06-2005, 00:38
As I always said, "Popular votes (our votes), do not count, but electorial votes do (people who hold office, all of the electorial votes from almost all states (not all, I think Nebreska actually splits it dependant on the popular))."

There was a female candidate in the 04 election but she dropped out for some reason. It could be 08 when we see a female president.
Carol Moseley Braun

A black female at that. I liked her but knew she didn't stand a chance in hell.