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A few days ago, I was watching the news on TV when I heard something quite startling. A case was brought to the Supreme Court to decide whether it was lawful for a government to sieze private property for commercial use.

The Supreme Court ruled "that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses -- even against their will -- for private economic development."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/

Yes. It has been several days since this ruling came out, yet I still find myself incredibly perturbed that something of this nature could happen in America.

The Declaration of Independence asserts the inalienable rights of all [humans] to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Here, Thomas Jefferson is paraphrasing John Locke: all humans have the right to life, liberty, and property . Pursuit of happiness was and is understood to mean property. Yet here, the government is saying, "Yes. You have the right to property. But some people have more rights to property than others."

I know you may have all discussed this rather heatedly before I joined, but until this decision is overturned, I believe it merits the attention of every single American citizen. While for now, such a decision will probably only affect the poor and the working classes, how long before the government takes my house?

Sorry if I am abrasive. This decision is worrisome.

A few days ago, I was watching the news on TV when I heard something quite startling. A case was brought to the Supreme Court to decide whether it was lawful for a government to sieze private property for commercial use.

The Supreme Court ruled "that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses -- even against their will -- for private economic development."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/

Yes. It has been several days since this ruling came out, yet I still find myself incredibly perturbed that something of this nature could happen in America.

The Declaration of Independence asserts the inalienable rights of all [humans] to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Here, Thomas Jefferson is paraphrasing John Locke: all humans have the right to life, liberty, and property . Pursuit of happiness was and is understood to mean property. Yet here, the government is saying, "Yes. You have the right to property. But some people have more rights to property than others."

I know you may have all discussed this rather heatedly before I joined, but until this decision is overturned, I believe it merits the attention of every single American citizen. While for now, such a decision will probably only affect the poor and the working classes, how long before the government takes my house?

Sorry if I am abrasive. This decision is worrisome.

We've become EVIL.

We've become EVIL.
because of that? We've been evil for a long time...but we've been good sometimes too :D

because of that? We've been evil for a long time...but we've been good sometimes too :D

We've been evil since circa A.D. 1776 :rolleyes:

We've become EVIL.
Haha, I laughed. :D

It's not like we haven't already been doing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdozer_%28bulldozer%29

Haha, I laughed. :D

OMG! The 23rd biggest post-whore on NS, Colodia, acknowledged me! :cool:

OMG! The 23rd biggest post-whore on NS, Colodia, acknowledged me! :cool:
Pfft, that's nothing. I know where you live, your telephone number, your parents, your past relationships...*rambles on...*


I'm joking! Stalking can cause some real bad legal battles in court, I would know.

It could be worse. Think of the situation in Indo-China where supposed 'buffer zones' are being imposed to keep poor people off land they own which is close to ocean front property... an obvious diversion so that large corporations can come in later and develop said property for next to no initial cost due to the decrease in land value. Those poor people lost almost everything they owned to the Tsunami, and now are being slapped in the face by the government officials that are supposed to be helping them.

What you've shown is still disgusting, and I'm happy that at least we don't have it on that level here in Canada (yet)... but at least its not as bad as some other places of note.

Anyone seen The Castle ?

Anyone seen The Castle ?
Is it an Australian movie? I think I may have... some time ago mind you...

A few days ago, I was watching the news on TV when I heard something quite startling. A case was brought to the Supreme Court to decide whether it was lawful for a government to sieze private property for commercial use.

The Supreme Court ruled "that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses -- even against their will -- for private economic development."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/

Yes. It has been several days since this ruling came out, yet I still find myself incredibly perturbed that something of this nature could happen in America.

The Declaration of Independence asserts the inalienable rights of all [humans] to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Here, Thomas Jefferson is paraphrasing John Locke: all humans have the right to life, liberty, and property . Pursuit of happiness was and is understood to mean property. Yet here, the government is saying, "Yes. You have the right to property. But some people have more rights to property than others."

I know you may have all discussed this rather heatedly before I joined, but until this decision is overturned, I believe it merits the attention of every single American citizen. While for now, such a decision will probably only affect the poor and the working classes, how long before the government takes my house?

Sorry if I am abrasive. This decision is worrisome.

This is one I wouldn't be too worried about, unless you have property which is already in their sights. The supreme court will become a conservative majority and they will restore property rights.

Are you pondering what I'm pondering? :rolleyes:

Are you pondering what I'm pondering? :rolleyes:
I love that show!

Well, I hate to burst your bubble... but its too late,

I already took over the world.

A few days ago, I was watching the news on TV when I heard something quite startling. A case was brought to the Supreme Court to decide whether it was lawful for a government to sieze private property for commercial use.

The Supreme Court ruled "that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses -- even against their will -- for private economic development."
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/

Yes. It has been several days since this ruling came out, yet I still find myself incredibly perturbed that something of this nature could happen in America.

The Declaration of Independence asserts the inalienable rights of all [humans] to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Here, Thomas Jefferson is paraphrasing John Locke: all humans have the right to life, liberty, and property . Pursuit of happiness was and is understood to mean property. Yet here, the government is saying, "Yes. You have the right to property. But some people have more rights to property than others."

I know you may have all discussed this rather heatedly before I joined, but until this decision is overturned, I believe it merits the attention of every single American citizen. While for now, such a decision will probably only affect the poor and the working classes, how long before the government takes my house?

Sorry if I am abrasive. This decision is worrisome.

You're government has been stealing land from the indegenous people of the Americas, Mexicans, Phillipinos, Hawaiians, etc... and only now you find this kind of behaviour worrisome.

Welcome to the third world.

You're government has been stealing land from the indegenous people of the Americas, Mexicans, Phillipinos, Hawaiians, etc... and only now you find this kind of behaviour worrisome.

Welcome to the third world.

Hey we stole that land fair and square. :rolleyes: Thats sarcasm for those who dont get it.

You're government has been stealing land from the indegenous people of the Americas, Mexicans, Phillipinos, Hawaiians, etc... and only now you find this kind of behaviour worrisome.

Welcome to the third world.
Hey hey hey!

We were just following British orders when we stole from the Indians! And then when we were soveirgn, well, all we knew was "Kill Indians! Opress Indians! Take Indians' land!!!!111"

And the Mexicans, well, it wasn't our fault they started the war. Read up on history, we could've taken all of Mexico. But we didn't. We're awesome like that.


Philipinos, Hawaiians, well...*gets shot*

Hey we stole that land fair and square. :rolleyes: Thats sarcasm for those who dont get it.

In your sig, the correct spelling Jon Stewart, not John Stewart.

It could be worse. Think of the situation in Indo-China where supposed 'buffer zones' are being imposed to keep poor people off land they own which is close to ocean front property... an obvious diversion so that large corporations can come in later and develop said property for next to no initial cost due to the decrease in land value. Those poor people lost almost everything they owned to the Tsunami, and now are being slapped in the face by the government officials that are supposed to be helping them.

What you've shown is still disgusting, and I'm happy that at least we don't have it on that level here in Canada (yet)... but at least its not as bad as some other places of note.

You're right. In America, we can become somewhat...dang...what's that word...um...it's when you have it, but you don't appreciate it?...ah! Yes, in America, we can become (well, "are" quite frankly)...lost that word again...well, let's just say: When some group or somebody starts tramping on Constitutional rights, someone somewhere (usually some people, different places) gets upset.

Hopefully, these kinds of injustices that exist all over the world in varying intensities will end.

Hey we stole that land fair and square. :rolleyes: Thats sarcasm for those who dont get it.

I'm not saying it isn't your right to steal land, enslave other cultures or commit genocide. All I'm saying is what goes around comes around. ;)

You're government has been stealing land from the indegenous people of the Americas, Mexicans, Phillipinos, Hawaiians, etc... and only now you find this kind of behaviour worrisome.

Welcome to the third world.

Yes, that's true. We did horrible things in the Phillipines, outright stole the Southwest, and committed various other atrocities throughout the world. We're not perfect. Actually, it'd be safe to say that we are pretty darn far from "adequate." Oh, and yeah, we're evil. But hey, so's the rest of the planet...right?

I'm not saying it isn't your right to steal land, enslave other cultures or commit genocide. All I'm saying is what goes around comes around. ;)

*Stares ominously at big red button.*

*Twitches*

:p

*Stares ominously at big red button.*

*Twitches*

:p


I had the hardest time with that. :D

I had the hardest time with that. :D
Uh-uh, was I NOT supposed to press that button?

Uh-uh, was I NOT supposed to press that button?

:eek: Quick! To the escape pod!

Uh-uh, was I NOT supposed to press that button?

Which one, I think one of them started a dance party in the Trump Towers....

:eek: Quick! To the escape pod!

Someone set us up the bomb.

Liverbreath']This is one I wouldn't be too worried about, unless you have property which is already in their sights. The supreme court will become a conservative majority and they will restore property rights.

Doubtful.

Conservatives like business.

No one read the Killdozer thing. It seriously has to do with this. The Government stole some guys Car Repair Shop so a big business could use the land. Just said "Get out and Leave", and forced him due to some stupid Building Code that probably a dozen other buildings violated. He took a Bulldozer, armored it with concrete and steel, added guns and a camera to see where he was going. He then knocked down Gov't Buildings and the houses of the people involved, WITHOUT INJURING OR KILLING ANYONE! Finally the bulldozer broke down and he couldn't get out, so he killed himself. RIP, you were a true American Hero.

Yes, that's true. We did horrible things in the Phillipines, outright stole the Southwest, and committed various other atrocities throughout the world. We're not perfect. Actually, it'd be safe to say that we are pretty darn far from "adequate." Oh, and yeah, we're evil. But hey, so's the rest of the planet...right?

The rest of the planet does not claim to be bringing democracy to the United States by dropping bombs on Washington. The rest of the planet did not drop atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima and then decide they were going to ensure, for the safety of the rest of the world, that they were going to police the nuclear arsenals of other nations.

However my intention is not to digress from the point of this thread, which I believe is Eminent Domain. Nothing new, I just find it ironic how some people seem blissfully ignorant of world issues until someone decides to turn the whip on them.