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Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

*beats up mob of reporters to get his question answered*

Yes, why the hell would God want to turn the flask into a duck in the first place?

*gets ready to write the answers*

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

You used the wrong wording you'd have to say "God, if you exist, turn this flask into a duck!" Otherwise you could be talking to anybody.

Because this was his or her chance to prove him or herself.

Cool!

Linking to webpages that I'm not going to read is proof that god doesn't exist!

Go figure.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”

Because this was his or her chance to prove him or herself.
Why would he want to?

You used the wrong wording you'd have to say "God, if you exist, turn this flask into a duck!" Otherwise you could be talking to anybody.

Damn, well, I just tried saying that too, and that also did not work. So I guess he don't exist.

Cool!

Linking to webpages that I'm not going to read is proof that god doesn't exist!

Go figure.
On three, we all look at this guy like he's crazy...

One...two...

Cool!

Linking to webpages that I'm not going to read is proof that god doesn't exist!

Go figure.

Those links are my proof, and they are just images.

Damn, well, I just tried saying that too, and that also did not work. So I guess he don't exist.
Well with grammar like that we're not getting anywhere.

Why would he want to?

Well to get all the infidels to believe ofcourse. Silly.

Would have worked with Mountain Dew.

God hates Mountain Dew. Gives him a sugar rush and then his infinite pancreas swells across, like, a gazillion galaxies.

Well with grammar like that we're not getting anywhere.

Oh you mock me! :(

Do I win a prize or something anytime soon?

Damn, well, I just tried saying that too, and that also did not work. So I guess he don't exist.

You got the pics to prove it?

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?
You only think that it's still an empty bottle. God has clouded your vision to the fact that it is now a small thermonuclear device which is armed and on countdown.

You have six seconds to vacate the premises. Good luck! :D

Not really, but I swear it's true. It's boring to keep uploading images.

You, sir, are an idiot.

You only think that it's still an empty bottle. God has clouded your vision to the fact that it is now a small thermonuclear device which is armed and on countdown.

You have six seconds to vacate the premises. Good luck! :D

Well, lucklily for me I disproved God so I don't have to leave! HAH!

Actually there was no way god would turn that thing into a duck because it isn't a flask, it is a bottle.

You, sir, are an idiot.

Actually, I am involved in politics.

if there is a god, it has never answered a single one of my prayers.

ever.


i have more thoughts on this but i just got home from a really loud show and my ears are on fire. no concentrating. no balancing. goodbye

Actually there was no way god would turn that thing into a duck because it isn't a flask, it is a bottle.

Semantics, bah!

if there is a god, it has never answered a single one of my prayers.
ever.
Have you ever considered praying for thanking God, and not asking him stuff? Prayer is supposed to be a spiritual dialogue, not a grocery list.

Because this was his or her chance to prove him or herself.
To paraphrase Douglas Adams (only because I don't have the text handy):
"The babel fish is such a remarkably improbable animal that it has been used as definitive proof of the non-existance of god. The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove my existance, for proof denies faith,' says god. 'But the evolution of the babel fish is so improbable that it must have been created by you. Since you refuse to prove that you exist, and the babel fish proves it, therefore you don't exist.' 'Oh,I hadn't thought of that,' says god, and disappears in a puff of logic."

Since when does God take orders from humans? I can order the president to replace a fire hydrant with a B-52 to prove he exists. Does that mean there is no such thing as the president?

Actually, I am involved in politics.

Great, just what we need, another idiot polititian. :rolleyes:
har har....

Well, lucklily for me I disproved God so I don't have to leave! HAH!
Nope. You only think you did.

Bye, bye! :D

Have you ever considered praying for thanking God, and not asking him stuff? Prayer is supposed to be a spiritual dialogue, not a grocery list.

OKAY, thanks for speaking for god to the rest of us. You are a licensed "God speaker" are you not?

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

"Those guys at the NRA are right. If I had one right now...... :sniper:"

- The Nutty Professor

Since when does God take orders from humans? I can order the president to replace a fire hydrant with a B-52 to prove he exists. Does that mean there is no such thing as the president?

There's still faulty logic atleast!

Great, just what we need, another idiot polititian. :rolleyes:
har har....

'Twas a joke m'lord since "idiot" is a word for those who do not involve themselves in politics.

OKAY, thanks for speaking for god to the rest of us. You are a licensed "God speaker" are you not?
I just feel bored tonight, so I decided to become annoying.
Boiiink.

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?
Ha, the bottle moved slightly to the right and the filesize increased by one kilobyte!
God was there, he just didnt feel like giving into your lazy demands. Go make your own bottle-to-duck converter.
Jerk.

I just feel bored tonight, so I decided to become annoying.
Boiiink.

And that's why I love you so much babe ;)

Ha, the bottle moved slightly to the right and the filesize increased by one kilobyte!
God was there, he just didnt feel like giving into your lazy demands. Go make your own bottle-to-duck converter.
Jerk.

I moved the camera since I gave the lazy old man a good 20 seconds to transform it.

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?
Yes. You neglected to specify when it was to become a duck. Technically, the bottle will eventually decompose, and the atoms will be reintegrated into a new form. Who's to say the new form won't be a duck? Ha! :D

You might be duck-free for the moment but he does do other transformations. Why today he turned Taco Bell into Indigestion via the miracle of my digestive tract.

Yes. You neglected to specify when it was to become a duck. Technically, the bottle will eventually decompose, and the atoms will be reintegrated into a new form. Who's to say the new form won't be a duck? Ha! :D

Yeah, the all time master of space and dimension would prove to us his existence with being incredibly boring. Whopee!

You might be duck-free for the moment but he does do other transformations. Why today he turned Taco Bell into Indigestion via the miracle of my digestive tract.

You make me chuckle good Sir, kudos to you.

Yeah, the all time master of space and dimension would prove to us his existence with being incredibly boring. Whopee!
Maybe the duck is camoflauged very well. Or maybe there is a way to translate "duck" to mean "bottle". Or maybe he couldn't hear you. He is pretty old.

God doesn't exist to answer our every beck and call, Comedy Option. He is omnipotent, but that means he has the power to do anything, not that he WILL do everything. The logic of your experiment is flawed, I'm afraid. He chooses not to reveal himself so obviously that faith is useless (deus obscurus) - the god having been hidden.

Maybe the duck is camoflauged very well. Or maybe there is a way to translate "duck" to mean "bottle".

Or maybe he cut himself using occams razor :)

God doesn't exist to answer our every beck and call, Comedy Option. He is omnipotent, but that means he has the power to do anything, not that he WILL do everything. The logic of your experiment is flawed, I'm afraid. He chooses not to reveal himself so obviously that faith is useless (deus obscurus) - the god having been hidden.

Now why he do that? Couldn't he just come down to earth and stop all this bullshit? No, because that would be to easy.

It is god that is flawed.

u just got unlucky. once upon a time, there was a boy and his mother walking in bowness park. the mother was trying to convince her son that God existed. finally the son said "if there is a God, He cans trike me with lightning!" and at that very moment, he was struck by lightning. and he survived without a scratch. normally, u could say this was just a coincidence, except for two things: bowness park is in a valley full of trees, and there wasn't a cloud in the sky.

heres a thought. maybe god doesn't speak english! so all your prayers are wasted. my guess?? pig-latin.

u just got unlucky. once upon a time, there was a boy and his mother walking in bowness park. the mother was trying to convince her son that God existed. finally the son said "if there is a God, He cans trike me with lightning!" and at that very moment, he was struck by lightning. and he survived without a scratch. normally, u could say this was just a coincidence, except for two things: bowness park is in a valley full of trees, and there wasn't a cloud in the sky.

Platon "Anecdotal evidence changes everything!"

Hah, not.


;)

heres a thought. maybe god doesn't speak english! so all your prayers are wasted. my guess?? pig-latin.

Omniscient more like, NOT omniscient am I RITE GUYS? guys? Hello?

Edit: This is probably the best argument I've heard so far

heres a thought. maybe god doesn't speak english! so all your prayers are wasted. my guess?? pig-latin.
Good point. Try ancient hebrew if you're jewish, latin if you're christian, arabic if you're muslim, or whatever language god gave your holy texts in if you're anything else. If he spoke to his prophets in that language, it must be because he doesn't understand any other language. We know humans can understand many languages, so the fault must lie with god.

how come god used to perform all these miracles, but then suddenly stopped? did he lose his magic wand? searching for it all this time?

how come god used to perform all these miracles, but then suddenly stopped? did he lose his magic wand? searching for it all this time?

God doesn't NEED us. He can make it on his OWN!

He can do the act to his parents... Leave out the dirty bits though ;)

I wish I could make threads like THESE "not exist".
Alas, there's more of a chance of some all-powerful godly being feeling a need to 'prove' him/herself to one insignificant mortal.

Oh wait. Is that a reason, perhaps, that random household objects aren't turned into ducks? MAYBE SO!

So, that godlike being is going to continue to ignore the mindless babblings (like that spewed in the opening post of this thread), and threads like this are going to continue to crop up.

Sigh.

God doesn't NEED us. He can make it on his OWN!

He can do the act to his parents... Leave out the dirty bits though ;)

maybe god moved off to some new world? maybe he'll check in with our world in a couple years and make up the lost time with miracles galore!

I wish I could make threads like THESE "not exist".
Alas, there's more of a chance of some all-powerful godly being feeling a need to 'prove' him/herself to one insignificant mortal.

Oh wait. Is that a reason, perhaps, that random household objects aren't turned into ducks? MAYBE SO!

So, that godlike being is going to continue to ignore the mindless babblings (like that spewed in the opening post of this thread), and threads like this are going to continue to crop up.

Sigh.
Now I wish I could make posts like YOURS not exist. hahahaahahhhahaha.

OH WAIT! Maybe it's because god doesn't exist at all!

The point was, there's no more proof that "god" doesn't exist in the fact those random objects weren't turned into ducks than there is proof he DOES exist.

maybe god moved off to some new world? maybe he'll check in with our world in a couple years and make up the lost time with miracles galore!

And we'll be all like "Hey man, leaving us here was NOT COOL dude... These miracles better be some good shit"

maybe god moved off to some new world? maybe he'll check in with our world in a couple years and make up the lost time with miracles galore!
Everworld! (http://www.scholastic.com/everworld/evabout1.htm)

The point was, there's no more proof that "god" doesn't exist in the fact those random objects weren't turned into ducks than there is proof he DOES exist.

There is no more proof against invisible unicorns than there is for, and yet I don't se bush going on public TV talking about his personal dialog with ChooChoo the Pink Unicorn through his hairdryer.

Edit: And I would say the fact that the flask wasn't transformed would point to that "GOD DOES NOT EXIST" more than "OH WELL I GUESS HE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE DOING IT BUT IM PRETTY SURE HE STILL EXISTS"

There is no more proof against invisible unicorns than there is for, and yet I don't se bush going on public TV talking about his personal dialog with ChooChoo the Pink Unicorn through his hairdryer.
It's the raven paradox. We want to prove that god doesn't exist because the bottle didn't turn into a duck. We can make a statement P that "If the bottle turned into a duck, then god exists." The contrapositive of P is "If god doesn't exist, then the bottle won't turn into a duck." Logically, the proof of a contrapositive proves the original statement. Since the bottle didn't turn into a duck, that is a little more evidence in favor of the contrapositive of P, and by corollary, P. Maybe it's not quite as amusing as the raven paradox, but it still makes sense (at least to me).

Now why he do that? Couldn't he just come down to earth and stop all this bullshit? No, because that would be to easy.

It is god that is flawed.

Well, if there is a god, your grande finale is going to be a doozie. He's probably going to save you for when R-O-L-A-I-D-S just doesn't spell relief.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the planet...
in a flash of yellow light...
a duck appears on a sidewalk, in downtown Pekin.

The duck has powerful abilities that other ducks don't usually get...
because he's GOD'S DUCK...
he can vote both Republican AND Democrat at the same time...
he can re-cork an uncorked wine bottle...
he can piss real far and impress the dudes...
he can flip his legs and little wings in very cool ways, like, just add music and it's like the Hampster Dance.

Unfortunately for this mighty creature from God...
there happens to be a chinese restaurant owner right there...
on the sidewalk, minding his own business...
and without any hesitation, he grabs the duck and starts plucking him alive.

"Wait", said the duck to the sweating chinese butcher,
"I was sent by God as a proof of His existence
I am on an important mission for mankind
All of this because of a stupid flask of Tab"

But the sino duck plucker isn't impressed at all
"Your puny God is stupid, little duck",
"This isn't a flask, it's a bottle
And the bottle's worth a 5 cents refund
While you, little duck, are worth shit"

"Wait wait", said God's duckie,
flipping his beautiful and deep blue eyes
just like a Jesus actor in a 1960s Hollywood movie about Jesus and stuff,
"I have a riddle for you", said he,
"So that I open up your soul and it'll bubble up to heaven like a spiritual flask of Doctor Pepper"

The pekinese maniac answered, unfettered,
"Ok, but make it quick, the customers are hungry
And by the way it's not a flask it's a can, you moron"

The duck then said, with his best Mel Gibson impersonation, ever,
"The riddle goes like this:
What's the sound of one hand clapping?
And what's the color of things that are transparent to the eyes, like a mother's love to her child
What's the smell of fortune in the heart of the true believer
And..."

"FUCK IT", said the chinese merchant
As he butchered the poor little love-duck with extreme prejudice
Blood gushing from the duck's pretty little wings and slit throat and all,
"I hope he doesn't taste like shit"


God is still a mystery to man, but sometimes he shows his presence in extremely stupid ways, which is a proof that he's omniscient and all.

Liverbreath']Well, if there is a god, your grande finale is going to be a doozie. He's probably going to save you for when R-O-L-A-I-D-S just doesn't spell relief.

Yeah man, cause NO ONE, has EVER threatened for bad things to happen if you don't to this and that. NO ONE.

You have to do all this stuff and.. whops, if you dont you get A LOT OF PAIN. Whoa, that's just, original.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the planet...
in a flash of yellow light...
a duck appears on a sidewalk, in downtown Pekin.

The duck has powerful abilities that other ducks don't usually get...
because he's GOD'S DUCK...
he can vote both Republican AND Democrat at the same time...
he can re-cork an uncorked wine bottle...
he can piss real far and impress the dudes...
he can flip his legs and little wings in very cool ways, like, just add music and it's like the Hampster Dance.

Unfortunately for this mighty creature from God...
there happens to be a chinese restaurant owner right there...
on the sidewalk, minding his own business...
and without any hesitation, he grabs the duck and starts plucking him alive.

"Wait", said the duck to the sweating chinese butcher,
"I was sent by God as a proof of His existence
I am on an important mission for mankind
All of this because of a stupid flask of Tab"

But the sino duck plucker isn't impressed at all
"Your puny God is stupid, little duck",
"This isn't a flask, it's a bottle
And the bottle's worth a 5 cents refund
While you, little duck, are worth shit"

"Wait wait", said God's duckie,
flipping his beautiful and deep blue eyes
just like a Jesus actor in a 1960s Hollywood movie about Jesus and stuff,
"I have a riddle for you", said he,
"So that I open up your soul and it'll bubble up to heaven like a spiritual flask of Doctor Pepper"

The pekinese maniac answered, unfettered,
"Ok, but make it quick, the customers are hungry
And by the way it's not a flask it's a can, you moron"

The duck then said, with his best Mel Gibson impersonation, ever,
"The riddle goes like this:
What's the sound of one hand clapping?
And what's the color of things that are transparent to the eyes, like a mother's love to her child
What's the smell of fortune in the heart of the true believer
And..."

"FUCK IT", said the chinese merchant
As he butchered the poor little love-duck with extreme prejudice
Blood gushing from the duck's pretty little wings and slit throat and all,
"I hope he doesn't taste like shit"


God is still a mystery to man, but sometimes he shows his presence in extremely stupid ways, which is a proof that he's omniscient and all.


Oh snap! What can I say? Couldn't sleep, wouldn't sleep. God came and told me I shouldn't sleep. Bewitched, bothered and bewildered, am I!

Well sorry all you people. I have to sleep now.

I guess we can conclude that I am the all master of time, space and dimension. Feel free to worship me.

Kudos!

oh comedy option, u just missed my astonishing new results! I was thinking... maybe God didnt like the bottle you used; maybe god would prefer a beer bottle. so i did a little experiment and :eek: :eek: :eek: http://img299.echo.cx/img299/7315/duck0015lw.png

then i was like: "Yo, God dude! Turn this bottle into a duck, eh?"

and nothing happened...

but then i was like: "Um... come on God. Please?"

and bang! in a puff of smoke

http://img231.echo.cx/img231/9418/duck0022hn.png

Oh.... hell no. There are people who actually took this thread seriously???
The posters name is Comedy Option, I think people need to read a thread before taking it that seriously.

That said, kudos to you CO, great thread :p

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

Maybe you should've mentioned a time frame...
like "turn this into a duck in the next thirty seconds.."

It's the raven paradox. We want to prove that god doesn't exist because the bottle didn't turn into a duck. We can make a statement P that "If the bottle turned into a duck, then god exists." The contrapositive of P is "If god doesn't exist, then the bottle won't turn into a duck." Logically, the proof of a contrapositive proves the original statement. Since the bottle didn't turn into a duck, that is a little more evidence in favor of the contrapositive of P, and by corollary, P. Maybe it's not quite as amusing as the raven paradox, but it still makes sense (at least to me).

LOL. Not at all my friend. Proving the contrapositive of P does indeed prove P.
But the problem in your logic is that we kind of all agree about the veracity of P : P is saying "IF the bottle turned to duck, then god would exist". Which is completely different from "god exists".

You're making the common mistake of confusing the logical statement "A=>B" with the logical statement "B".

For two logical statements too be said equivalent, they have to have the same state (true or false) in every combination of their component's states.

So let's consider the case where B is false :

If B is false, then the logical statement "B" is false, no matter what A state is (either true or false).
On the other hand, "A=>B" will then be false ONLY if A is true. And be true if A is false.

We have found a case (A false, B false) where the logical statement "A=>B" differs from the logical statement "B". Those two statements are thus different.

LOL. Not at all my friend. Proving the contrapositive of P does indeed prove P.
But the problem in your logic is that we kind of all agree about the veracity of P : P is saying "IF the bottle turned to duck, then god would exist". Which is completely different from "god exists".

You're making the common mistake of confusing the logical statement "A=>B" with the logical statement "B".

For two logical statements too be said equivalent, they have to have the same state (true or false) in every combination of their component's states.

So let's consider the case where B is false :

If B is false, then the logical statement "B" is false, no matter what A state is (either true or false).
On the other hand, "A=>B" will then be false ONLY if A is true. And be true if A is false.

We have found a case (A false, B false) where the logical statement "A=>B" differs from the logical statement "B". Those two statements are thus different.
I know. I completely screwed it up. For future reference, though, Illusivia Prime is in charge of correcting my logical mistakes, seeing as we found a picture of him that looks exactly like Spock, minus the pointy ears.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”
That's all Nice and Shiny, but a MAN wrote that, and ALL other "Holy Documents".

Nothing's been signed as "GOD", or "Love to Tiffany, THE ALMIGHTY", or "To MYSELF, the only person who ever uderstood me, JEHOBA".

So where was GOD when his name was evoked?

Or better yet, you know what? I think he exists, he just doesn't want us to know it? Otherwise imagine the amount of bitching he would get for the Ecclesiastical Wars and Infighting, the Crusades, the Inquisition (No one expects the Inquisition! ...), the Dark Ages, Plagues, the discovery of America, the loss of Atlantis, meat causing obescity, sweets rotting our teeth, putting all nutritious substances in vegetables, putting the fake laughing in sit-coms (or was the U.S. Americans who did it! Maybe we should vote on it!), politicians, ambiguity, doubt, not giving the answer or even any clue as to the bigest question there is, life, the universe, everything (I mean 32? What the fuck's that? And don't give me none of that "how many roads must a man walk down?" crap! I need succinct and clear answers!), etc., etc..

Who the hell IS this GOD person anyway, and why does he always spell HIS name and personal pronouns in capitals?

Why I oughta', wait till I get my hands on HIM! :gundge:

That's all Nice and Shiny, but a MAN wrote this, and ALL other "Holy Documents".

Nothing's been signed as "GOD", or "Love to Tiffany, THE ALMIGHTY", or "To MYSELF, the only person who ever uderstood me, JEHOBA".

So where was GOD when his name was evoked?

Or better yet, you know what? I think he exists, he just doesn't want us to know it? Otherwise imagine the amount of bitching he would get for the Ecclesiastical Wars and Infighting, the Crusades, the Inquisition (No one expects the Inquisition! ...), the Dark Ages, Plagues, the discovery of America, the loss of Atlantis, meat causing obescity, sweets rotting our teeth, putting all nutritious substances in vegetables, putting the fake laughing in sit-coms (or was the U.S. Americans who did it! Maybe we should vote on it!), politicians, ambiguity, doubt, not giving the answer or even any clue as to the bigest question there is, life, the universe, everything (I mean 32? What the fuck's that? And don't give me none of that "how many roads must a man walk down?" crap! I need succinct and clear answers!), etc., etc..

Who the hell IS this GOD person anyway, and why does he always spell HIS name and personal pronouns in capitals?

Why I oughta', wait till I get my hands on him! :gundge:

Now now, getting angry with God does nothing good to your chances of salvation.

That's all Nice and Shiny, but a MAN wrote this, and ALL other "Holy Documents".

Nothing's been signed as "GOD", or "Love to Tiffany, THE ALMIGHTY", or "To MYSELF, the only person who ever uderstood me, JEHOBA".

So where was GOD when his name was evoked?

Or better yet, you know what? I think he exists, he just doesn't want us to know it? Otherwise imagine the amount of bitching he would get for the Ecclesiastical Wars and Infighting, the Crusades, the Inquisition (No one expects the Inquisition! ...), the Dark Ages, Plagues, the discovery of America, the loss of Atlantis, meat causing obescity, sweets rotting our teeth, putting all nutritious substances in vegetables, putting the fake laughing in sit-coms (or was the U.S. Americans who did it! Maybe we should vote on it!), politicians, ambiguity, doubt, not giving the answer or even any clue as to the bigest question there is, life, the universe, everything

Why I oughta', wait till I get my hands on him! :gundge:

God was all around when your events happened. He isn't intervening NOW doesn't mean He won't intervene in the future, does it?

<snip>
(I mean 32? What the fuck's that? And don't give me none of that "how many roads must a man walk down?" crap! I need succinct and clear answers!)
<snip>

It's 42.

It's 42.
42?

42!

OMG! It's 42!

It's making sense now! Yes, of course, why didn't I thing of this before?

Oh thank you Einsteinian, thank you so much!

*Goes and starts his own monastic order On mount Athos*
*The order of THE ALMIGHTY NUMBER-CRUNCHER*

42?

42!

OMG! It's 42!

It's making sense now! Yes, of course, why didn't I thing of this before?

Oh thank you Einsteinian, thank you so much!

*Goes and starts his own monastic order On mount Athos*
*The order of THE ALMIGHTY NUMBER-CRUNCHER*

Why do I get the feeling someone's making fun of me...

Since when does God take orders from humans? I can order the president to replace a fire hydrant with a B-52 to prove he exists. Does that mean there is no such thing as the president?


But unfortunatlly you can see President Bush every day acting like a bigger dumb ass than yesterday on CNN, I havent seen god show up on CNN yet maybe I missed the show when he made his world debute but I don't think I did.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”

The only reason why someone would say that is the fear that the Lord your God would fail any test. So far, he failed EVERY test.

God, if you exist, strike me down right now!

Looks like I'm still around.

But unfortunatlly you can see President Bush every day acting like a bigger dumb ass than yesterday on CNN, I havent seen god show up on CNN yet maybe I missed the show when he made his world debute but I don't think I did.

God hates CNN. He does make several guest appearances on FOX's Family Guy though.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the planet...
Aahahahhahahahahaha!

The only reason why someone would say that is the fear that the Lord your God would fail any test. So far, he failed EVERY test.

God, if you exist, strike me down right now!

Looks like I'm still around.

I say you have been struck down, but by God's majestic, omnipotent grace you didn't notice it...

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

Is there any chance that God missed and turned you into a duck!

You didn't call the 1-800 number, and send in your money. If you don't give god five thousand dollers, how do you ever exspect to recieve your miracle! God needs to make a profit you know.

Bah, that is not proof. I mean God does not do these favors, or at least favors this stupid. I mean, there are cases where people make miraculous recoveries and such, but come on why would God provide you of proof of his existence when he wants faith?

I'd like to first say kudos to Comedy Option, you are a very intellectually advanced individual. Your flask to duck experiment finally ends all debates about what everyone with an IQ over 1 has already found out. God MOST LIKELY DOES NOT exist, and if he does he's a dead beat.

Wrap your mind around this God is Omnipersent and all loving, but yet he lets his people suffer and die extreamlly painfull deaths as rewards for there fatih while the rest of the world profits and prospers in there sins.
Either A he deosn't exist, he was made up by man to help control the masses, and to make you think you have this wonderfull after life so be a fucking nobodya nd do as your told in this life.
B he does exist but he's the biggest deadbeat dad in all history billions of children and he hasn't done a fucking thing for them.
C he exists but weve fucked up the image of GOD so much he abanodoned us and went somewhere else to try and do it right this time.
Last and most unlikely is D he's there this is a test of your faith (which seems weird casue even a bad parent wants good for there child and would give what they could to help them, so why doesn't a ALL LOVING heavenly father help us out???) waste your existance on god and you will recieve heavly bliss for eternity.

Well I personlly feel that pretty much everything but D is possible.
I still don't believe ANY CHURCH ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH REPRESENTS GOD IF HE EXISTS, and there is a strong possiblity that he doesn't exist. But let me know you opinons on the subject.
Which on do you think is the correct answer, A B C or D??
I could also make this more complecated by going into the Stargate Theroy but I 'll leave it like this for now.

P.S. Think of it this way to I don't believe God Exists but I still say there may be a possiblity, so sence God is all loving if he does exist all I got to say at the pearlly gates is "Oops I fucked up god, didn't give me much to go on but I still say there was a possiblity." Bam god is all loving so he forgives me and I get in to heaven its a win-win situation!!!

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”


great get out of jail free card that one ain't it.

great get out of jail free card that one ain't it.

I think God should be tested, at least verified too see if He's consistent - to those who can view and identify His actions. You can't just believe in a god because it could be some other god/cult/religion altogether.

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

You probably would have stuck your dick into the duck, so God spared the duck, as its a living creature, and a flask isnt, you'll just have to b happy with that.

Well it is impossible to test the Lord. After all he does not do very many miracles these days, as well, miracles are only useful for the faithless and God wants people to have faith not actual knowledge, otherwise he would probably do miracles everyday. As well this is a test of faith, it was Adam's choice to eat the apple and Eve's choice as well, and they did it. Besides he has done a lot for us, heck his son died for us, I mean if I killed your son you would be bringing terror to my doorstep but God has not done a thing. As well God is not something that can be disproven anyway or even proven.

TRRRROLLLLLL! BUJA! BUJA!

-Sacrifice, Persephone's Troll

The idea that we shouldn't test God and 'He' doesn't have to prove himself is quite funny. What exactly do you call the bible, the ten comandments, the thousands of 'miracles' that happen if not God trying to prove his existence? Maybe he's not trying to prove but just re-affirming beliefs, but still, it is taken as proof of His existence, so you can't really argue that He doesn't prove himself if you believe in it all. Its quite handy that we're not allowed to test the idea of God in any way - if you needed more proof that religion has been used to control people, then that is it.

Well it is impossible to test the Lord. After all he does not do very many miracles these days, as well, miracles are only useful for the faithless and God wants people to have faith not actual knowledge, otherwise he would probably do miracles everyday. As well this is a test of faith, it was Adam's choice to eat the apple and Eve's choice as well, and they did it. Besides he has done a lot for us, heck his son died for us, I mean if I killed your son you would be bringing terror to my doorstep but God has not done a thing. As well God is not something that can be disproven anyway or even proven.

i just dont get the problem. why doesnt he just say: here i am and get on with it? just admit it. he screwed up if he exists at all.

and why does he necessarily want people to have faith?

why arent we allowed to test the lord our god, but he is allowed to test us!?!?

AND I DIDNT ASK HIM TO OFFER HIS SON! and he is a pretty lousy father if he didnt care wether his son died or not. why didnt he just volunteer to die( and live again) himself?

God decided to do most of those miracles. They were not done through some atheist in an attempt to get proof. Of course religion can be used to control people. Think about it, any dogma can be corrupted to provide the unworthy with power. I mean atheist nations have done crimes that are as bad or worse than religious nations. Look at communist russia, millions of people died because their own government killed them. But anyway, your life, your destiny.

Look, you obviously also did not ask to be born and poof here you are. Honestly I do not know all the answers, I am not as great as God. I do think that he is testing us as is his right as our father/creator and the supernatural being who decides our fate after-death. As well due to his nature he knows more than we do and being the creator does give him the right to do with his creation as he thinks is right. He obviously is not that bad, the earth is not a vile pit of decay.

You arn't supposed to test God for a start and another is you don't beleive in God so you obviously didn't expect anything to happen.

i just dont get the problem. why doesnt he just say: here i am and get on with it? just admit it. he screwed up if he exists at all.
Actually, he didn't screw it up, since that's our part and not his. It is our question - does he exist? - not his.

Any questions?

Yep, why exactly should God listen to your demands? What kind of God jumps like a dog whenever asked to?

Yep, why exactly should God listen to your demands? What kind of God jumps like a dog whenever asked to?

Why would he not turn a flask into a duck so I could believe in the splendor of the Lordie? Does he want me to go to hell? :(

Confabular']The idea that we shouldn't test God and 'He' doesn't have to prove himself is quite funny. What exactly do you call the bible, the ten comandments, the thousands of 'miracles' that happen if not God trying to prove his existence? Maybe he's not trying to prove but just re-affirming beliefs, but still, it is taken as proof of His existence, so you can't really argue that He doesn't prove himself if you believe in it all. Its quite handy that we're not allowed to test the idea of God in any way - if you needed more proof that religion has been used to control people, then that is it.

God has to prove himself, why else would I believe in him.

"Hay guys you know mom told me about this thing and theres absolutely NO proof for it at all but I'm going to believe in it because it's like whoa dude"

You arn't supposed to test God for a start and another is you don't beleive in God so you obviously didn't expect anything to happen.
Well gee wiz, Ya arn't supposed to test God. Well, guess the only thing left is blind faith then.

Edit: Well you're not supposed to question my experiment. I swear I read it in this really old book, and we all know that old = true

Well gee wiz, Ya arn't supposed to test God. Well, guess the only thing left is blind faith then.

Don't test Him, as in don't threaten Him, such as, "if I get a million dollars tomorrow I will believe in You."

You can sure verify His existence and His consistency!

Just make sure to wear a helmet next time you leave the house :)

Either an empty bottle or a duck's droppings are inbound for you... He might not enjoy showing off to people like you, but I bet He enjoys a good smiting ever once in a while :p

(BTW, take care and keep that humor of your's - that is definitely a gift from Him!)

Yeah, its all blind faith. I mean heck we sort of have to take it as blind faith that we exist or aren't in the Matrix or something. Anyway it is not the easiest path but a path is a path.

Don't test Him, as in don't threaten Him, such as, "if I get a million dollars tomorrow I will believe in You."

You can sure verify His existence and His consistency!
Well, I didn't ask for a million dollars, I asked for simple proof. And nothing happened. Which is more likely "God doesn't exist" or "Some dude on the internet said im not supposed to question stuff, so I guess there is a lord after all"


(the first one)

Yeah, its all blind faith. I mean heck we sort of have to take it as blind faith that we exist or aren't in the Matrix or something. Anyway it is not the easiest path but a path is a path.
Sticking hot coal up your colon is not an easy path either, but hey, whatever proves my faith in Cuthulu.

Well, it's obvious, you bafoon. You said turn this FLASK into a duck. That, my good friend, is a bottle, not a flask.

What does it really matter anyway? I mean you could accept it and have the belief give you a purpose or you could just continue to wander aimlessly trying to prove that turning a bottle into a duck is a form of proof that there is no higher power. You could even shove a hot coal into your behind. I mean this is life, there is no easy path. There are beliefs for everything, some people believe that they are the only person in all of existance and that no one else really exists(solipsism). So go ahead, shove hot coals where they need to go, bow down and worship the almighty God (or duck depending on your beliefs), or even try to gain 1,000,000 pounds by sitting around and eating kentucky fried chicken. I think that worshipping God is the right path, but I doubt I could ever convince you of the same considering that you consider the bottle to duck thing as a legitimate test.

Wow, you're taking this faaar to seariously holyawesomeness. I'm a rather devout christian too, but man, can't you take a joke?

I moved the camera since I gave the lazy old man a good 20 seconds to transform it.
Well, who's to say he didn't need more time? Can YOU transform a bottle into a duck in twenty seconds? Impatient fool.

But you see, that's the thing about God. He already proved his existence. He sent his son down to die for you, and if you still don't believe, well you aren't worth his time for effort.

That's why an experiment like that would never work.

I'm not christian btw, so don't flame.

Hey, people, we already resolved that god exists. go back to like page 3 or 4. You see, god likes BEER bottles better, and that was offered as fair rade for a duck, and it worked! Behold, God reigns!

u just got unlucky. once upon a time, there was a boy and his mother walking in bowness park. the mother was trying to convince her son that God existed. finally the son said "if there is a God, He cans trike me with lightning!" and at that very moment, he was struck by lightning. and he survived without a scratch. normally, u could say this was just a coincidence, except for two things: bowness park is in a valley full of trees, and there wasn't a cloud in the sky.

(Unluckier still) once upon a time there was a little boy and his mother lost in the desert.She was telling him they must trust in God. He said "If there is a God He would make a pool of water appear to save us." He was immediately struck by lightning because of his insolence and his mother died of thirst for having such an obnoxious child. ;)

(Unluckier still) once upon a time there was a little boy and his mother lost in the desert.She was telling him they must trust in God. He said "If there is a God He would make a pool of water appear to save us." He was immediately struck by lightning because of his insolence and his mother died of thirst for having such an obnoxious child. ;)
:p :p :p :p :p

I'd like to first say kudos to Comedy Option, you are a very intellectually advanced individual. Your flask to duck experiment finally ends all debates about what everyone with an IQ over 1 has already found out. God MOST LIKELY DOES NOT exist, and if he does he's a dead beat.

Wrap your mind around this God is Omnipersent and all loving, but yet he lets his people suffer and die extreamlly painfull deaths as rewards for there fatih while the rest of the world profits and prospers in there sins.
Either A he deosn't exist, he was made up by man to help control the masses, and to make you think you have this wonderfull after life so be a fucking nobodya nd do as your told in this life.
B he does exist but he's the biggest deadbeat dad in all history billions of children and he hasn't done a fucking thing for them.
C he exists but weve fucked up the image of GOD so much he abanodoned us and went somewhere else to try and do it right this time.
Last and most unlikely is D he's there this is a test of your faith (which seems weird casue even a bad parent wants good for there child and would give what they could to help them, so why doesn't a ALL LOVING heavenly father help us out???) waste your existance on god and you will recieve heavly bliss for eternity.

Well I personlly feel that pretty much everything but D is possible.
I still don't believe ANY CHURCH ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH REPRESENTS GOD IF HE EXISTS, and there is a strong possiblity that he doesn't exist. But let me know you opinons on the subject.
Which on do you think is the correct answer, A B C or D??
I could also make this more complecated by going into the Stargate Theroy but I 'll leave it like this for now.

P.S. Think of it this way to I don't believe God Exists but I still say there may be a possiblity, so sence God is all loving if he does exist all I got to say at the pearlly gates is "Oops I fucked up god, didn't give me much to go on but I still say there was a possiblity." Bam god is all loving so he forgives me and I get in to heaven its a win-win situation!!!
AAAAAAH!!!!!!! There's more than one kind of there, you know! There refers to a place only. You should be using their, implying possession.
Is not grammar awesome!!

Yeah, I probably am being too serious. I have that tendency of being too serious. I think that in order to stop being so serious, I should pray for a golden donkey to arrive at my front door. Then I will be the RICHEST DONKEY KING!!! ALL WILL BOW!! Anyway it is a joke but I will respond to comments that I do not believe in and argue for the fun of it.

But you see, that's the thing about God. He already proved his existence. He sent his son down to die for you, and if you still don't believe, well you aren't worth his time for effort.

That's why an experiment like that would never work.

I'm not christian btw, so don't flame.

He sent his own son to DIE? What a cold bastard?

Yeah, I probably am being too serious. I have that tendency of being too serious. I think that in order to stop being so serious, I should pray for a golden donkey to arrive at my front door. Then I will be the RICHEST DONKEY KING!!! ALL WILL BOW!! Anyway it is a joke but I will respond to comments that I do not believe in and argue for the fun of it.

I'll bet you 10 bucks that donkey won't show up.

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

Absolutely!

A) Did anyone of consequence review your experiment and did you try a
three blind test to rule out prior knowledge?

2) Was the Tab X-tra cold, lukewarm, or hot?

*) Did you make sure God was available during the test sequence?

Answers will be appreciated as all are eagerly awaiting the literal proof of the existence/non-existence of said God.
BTW is this the bible, christian, Judeaean, Abrahamic desert God you asked to prove Himself?

Javier; Grand Vizier of Questions and Stuff

Yeah, I know. That stupid donkey, I will now go on a genocidal quest to destroy all forms of donkey life, or maybe go watch TV, it is hard to be certain.

Absolutely!

A) Did anyone of consequence review your experiment and did you try a
three blind test to rule out prior knowledge?

2) Was the Tab X-tra cold, lukewarm, or hot?

*) Did you make sure God was available during the test sequence?

Answers will be appreciated as all are eagerly awaiting the literal proof of the existence/non-existence of said God.
BTW is this the bible, christian, Judeaean, Abrahamic desert God you asked to prove Himself?

Javier; Grand Vizier of Questions and Stuff

You're not supposed to question the holyness of my experiment. This will probably send you to hell, which consits of a large tub of mildly heated Tab X-tra.

Wait a minute, the experiment was holy, and Comedy Option both knows this and promises to send those who question his insane and irrational experiment to a hell that he knows the existance and nature of. Comedy Option must be God! (bows down and prays then gets up). Well after that mystery was solved, we now must ask why Comedy Option did not change the bottle into a duck.

No, you've got it all wrong. God didn't physically transform it into a duck. But through the miracle of DUCK-SUBSTANTIATION, your bottle was spiritually transformed into a duck. It is a duck not in form, but in essence.

The problem is this: God, as an omnipotent and omniscient being, is by definition removed from time; He lives in the 4th dimension, in all instants at once. Therefore, even though he didn't appear to turn the bottle into a duck, it doesnŧ mean he didn't... it just happened at another time, because time is meaningless to Him.

QED.

Wait a minute, the experiment was holy, and Comedy Option both knows this and promises to send those who question his insane and irrational experiment to a hell that he knows the existance and nature of. Comedy Option must be God! (bows down and prays then gets up). Well after that mystery was solved, we now must ask why Comedy Option did not change the bottle into a duck.

Now I get it.
We have GOD (Comedy Option) toying with us to see who will really believe. This test is for us, as He already knows who the believers are. ;)
I SEE THE DUCK! :rolleyes:
I love what the Emperor has done with his wardrobe. :cool:

The Chinese restraunt owner must die in the name of CO. The duck was good and I have no guilt as it was Duck-Substantiation. :eek:

Well, I would quote Doug Adams right here (the part about God disproving His own existence), but someone's already done that. Of course he goes on to say that man was killed crossing the street while trying to prove that black was actually white (or something along those lines).

God, if You exist, make me the most handsom man that ever lived!!
...
Nothing happened, so this proves God exists!
I can't be more handsom then I already am!
WOW!
Cool!
Thanks, God!

teehee
:)

If you are sincere about your quest to find proof of God, which I am certain that you are not, why don't you ask God to show you the proof. You made need to "act" sincere while you ask rather than demand. Perhaps, it will come to you in a dream some night when you least expect it.


"The other manifestation of the powers and actions of the spirit is without instruments and organs. For example, in the state of sleep without eyes it sees; without an ear it hears; without a tongue it speaks; without feet it runs. Briefly, these actions are beyond the means of instruments and organs. How often it happens that it sees a dream in the world of sleep, and its signification becomes apparent two years afterward in corresponding events. In the same way, how many times it happens that a question which one cannot solve in the world of wakefulness is solved in the world of dreams. In wakefulness the eye sees only for a short distance, but in dreams he who is in the East sees the West. Awake he sees the present; in sleep he sees the future. In wakefulness, by means of rapid transit, at the most he can travel only twenty farsakhs an hour; in sleep, in the twinkling of an eye, he traverses the East and West. For the spirit travels in two different ways: without means, which is spiritual traveling; and with means, which is material traveling: as birds which fly, and those which are carried."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Some Answered Questions, p. 227)

"Now concerning mental faculties, they are in truth of the inherent properties of the soul, even as the radiation of light is the essential property of the sun. The rays of the sun are renewed but the sun itself is ever the same and unchanged. Consider how the human intellect develops and weakens, and may at times come to naught, whereas the soul changeth not. For the mind to manifest itself, the human body must be whole; and a sound mind cannot be but in a sound body, whereas the soul dependeth not upon the body. It is through the power of the soul that the mind comprehendeth, imagineth and exerteth its influence, whilst the soul is a power that is free. The mind comprehendeth the abstract by the aid of the concrete, but the soul hath limitless manifestations of its own. The mind is circumscribed, the soul limitless. It is by the aid of such senses as those of sight, hearing, taste, smell and touch, that the mind comprehendeth, whereas the soul is free from all agencies. The soul as thou observest, whether it be in sleep or waking, is in motion and ever active. Possibly it may, whilst in *9* a dream, unravel an intricate problem, incapable of solution in the waking state. The mind, moreover, understandeth not whilst the senses have ceased to function, and in the embryonic stage and in early infancy the reasoning power is totally absent, whereas the soul is ever endowed with full strength. In short, the proofs are many that go to show that despite the loss of reason, the power of the soul would still continue to exist. The spirit however possesseth various grades and stations."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Tablet to August Forel, p. 8)

Resolution To This Experiment (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=428251) :eek:

FOOLS!
PROOF DENIES FAITH!
FOR WITHOUT FAITH... I don't know.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”
Of course ... (does anyone else see a lot of these sort of rules in the bible just lend themselfs to the feeling of a created god where they just added rules so that you may never update nor question the made up god) seems luke such blaitent attempt at mind controll

Well, everything is mind control. I mean after all most people try to influence others in a way to get them to do something. There is marketing and there are con-artists and politicians and all sorts of others. Really currently it is not mind control at all. Organized religion is powerful but not the greatest source of all goodness or religion today. It is entirely possible to be a christian and never go to church or pay money to the church(assuming tithing can be substituted with charitable donations). Really I think the people who are afraid of being brainwashed are already insane.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”
LOL
Since God is supposed to be the source and essence of everyting, shouldn't we ditch science?

Ditching science would be stupid. Science does not seek the answers to the divine but only to the physical. Science is seeking knowledge and that SHOULDN'T be a problem with religion despite that historically it has. Really though science can not have any say in religious matters just as religion can not have any say in scientific matters this is simply due to lack of knowledge. If either side has any dispute(more common for religion to dispute science) that side should try to reconcile with evidence contrary to claim so that instead of ignoring the truth it is incorporated.

Gravity doesn't exist either. *jumps off a building*

Gravitiy doesn't exist either. *jumps off a building*
No, "Gravitiy" doesn't exist. And "gravity" is an illusion.

Deuteronomy 6:16- “Do not test the Lord your God”

Because if you do you might discover he isn't real.

Well, everything is mind control. I mean after all most people try to influence others in a way to get them to do something. There is marketing and there are con-artists and politicians and all sorts of others. Really currently it is not mind control at all. Organized religion is powerful but not the greatest source of all goodness or religion today. It is entirely possible to be a christian and never go to church or pay money to the church(assuming tithing can be substituted with charitable donations). Really I think the people who are afraid of being brainwashed are already insane.
I never said I was afraid ... I said the bible at certian points seems like an attempt to do so... making statements and claims then outlawing any questions in certian area's

Reminds me of the cult simpsons where no one was alowed to go in the barn beacuse looking in there would proove the lack of "devinity" (or at least cast doubt)
"the leader is good the leader is great, we surrender our will as of this date"

Because if you do you might discover he isn't real.
Exactly. The bible says basically, "Don't question the validity of this bible or you will go to hell". I think the pope should be the host of Scare Tactics. Wouldn't that be fitting?

Well, now we know. phew... what a wild 4,000 years. Thanks for clearing things up for untold throngs of humanity. Your wisdom is a beacon of light in this dark night of ignorance we call the world.

Exactly. The bible says basically, "Don't question the validity of this bible or you will go to hell". I think the pope should be the host of Scare Tactics. Wouldn't that be fitting?


Well, it's pretty much the basis for any con job.

"If you buy A, X will happen. However, if you try to prove that A won't/can't do anything, then X can't happen."

Okay, so I started an experiment do disproove god. First I put an empty flask of Tab X-tra on the floor.
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/2743/dscn30318ox.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30318ox.jpg)
Then I said: "IF THERE IS A GOD, TURN THIS FLASK INTO A DUCK!"
http://img191.echo.cx/img191/7083/dscn30307vc.th.jpg (http://img191.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn30307vc.jpg)
As you can see, nothing happened, and I have proved that God does not exist.

Any questions?

M8 your fubar

No, "Gravitiy" doesn't exist. And "gravity" is an illusion.

Thanks for the typo correction. I was in a hurry to post it. :(

M8 your fubar
What a thoughtfull response :rolleyes:

Gravy doesn't exist, Neo. Gravy is an illusion.

Thanks for the typo correction. I was in a hurry to post it. :(

I broke my shoulder due to that illusion once.Of course I may have just thought it was broken because it would have been the expected outcome of my supposed "fall" onto it from a height greater than my bone could support.
Come to think of it, it wasn't my shoulder at all.It was a cousin and as I didn't feel the pain, it probably wasn't real either.
Wake me up before you go-go.

I broke my shoulder due to that illusion once.Of course I may have just thought it was broken because it would have been the expected outcome of my supposed "fall" onto it from a height greater than my bone could support.
Come to think of it, it wasn't my shoulder at all.It was a cousin and as I didn't feel the pain, it probably wasn't real either.
Wake me up before you go-go.
You must have subconsciously wanted to break your shoulder.