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Who do you think should be the Democratic Presidential Nonomie in 2008?

A. Gore.Hillary doen't have a chance in the sexist US, perhaps she can run in the gay US leap dog-UK or in France.
Republicans will winn next time because there is no more democracy and ellections will be a fraud again, like last two ones. (Blacks in Florida's Bush, no recount in term 1 aso dirty tricks). Seems like the Bulgarian election was more clean today, even Iran with their neo con version that won :rolleyes:

I personally think that if Hillary ran in 08 she would win simply because after Bush only the religious nuts and hardcore republicans would vote for a republican after having the most unpopular Republican President since NIXON!

That is if we can keep the Republicans from commiting voter fraud.

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Certainly not John Kerry, it seems unwise to give the nomination to someone who lost already. Not Howard Dean because he is needed more in the DNC. Hillary would not win, at least not in '08. For now she can be more enigmatic in the senate. A Democratic version of Mitch romney may be best. A rising star of the party, Obama would be best but he is relatively new. Edwards may be the best decision considering the options.

Certainly not John Kerry, it seems unwise to give the nomination to someone who lost already. Not Howard Dean because he is needed more in the DNC. Hillary would not win, at least not in '08. For now she can be more enigmatic in the senate. A Democratic version of Mitch romney may be best. A rising star of the party, Obama would be best but he is relatively new. Edwards may be the best decision considering the options.

I personally don't think Edwards would win because he was also on the losing Kerry ticket in 04 but it was the closest Presidental race in American history. But since you know my pick I won't say anymore.

Myrth.

In my opinion, I think a Lieberman ticket would be the best. He can hold the middle and is conservative enough on defense to win the conservative Democrats. Perhaps a split ticket like Lieberman/McCain? :eek:

In my opinion, I think a Lieberman ticket would be the best. He can hold the middle and is conservative enough on defense to win the conservative Democrats. Perhaps a split ticket like Lieberman/McCain? :eek:
I think McCain would be the more prominent one of the two.

I think McCain would be the more prominent one of the two.

Which is good, because he is one of the last good centrists in the Senate. Still, I think it would appeal to those who are conservative on defense/liberal on social issues like myself and a lot of others.

Howard Dean...definitely...because he is such a hotheaded foot-in-mouth that he would NEVER win. :p

Howard Dean...definitely...because he is such a hotheaded foot-in-mouth that he would NEVER win. :p

Sabotage for the party, to say the least.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/images/jan-june04/dean_scream_cap2.jpg

More than some voters will be alienated.

I don't know who Evan Bey is, can someone give me a link?


I think the top 4 candidates are:


1: Wesley Clark

2: Richard Gephardt

3: Joseph Biden

4: John Edwards


Combine any of those 4 on a ticket, and you should get a pretty good result....

Hmm, I don't know who should be the Democratic Nonomie in 2008 but I think Howard Dean should be the leading presidential nominee for the Democrats in 2008.

I agree that a Biden/Clark ticket would be strong, especially since Biden has excellent foreign policy experience (we'd need it) and Clark knows the military and is a veteran (is Biden?).

I think Gephardt would be perceived as too "tax and spend", while Edwards was already on a losing ticket.

i hope howard dean, but his chances of winning are probably not that great

i hope howard dean, but his chances of winning are probably not that great

No, he'd be seen as too extreme. You have to move America to the center before you can move left, in my opinion.

Howard Dean is from Vermont. He'll never win.

No, he'd be seen as too extreme. You have to move America to the center before you can move left, in my opinion.
That's why Guiliani would be a great vote in 2008.

president = joe biden
vice president = hillary

I think McCain would be the more prominent one of the two.

If democrats can talk McCain into switching over he would be their best shot at winning. He's already considered a turncoat and liberal by most of the republican party so his only tie would be whether or not he could maintain his own states support. He has to know he's burned his bridges which I believe was intentional so such a move would not surprise me. Toss in a night out with Hillary and you all will own his sole!

Dean, that way the Republicans are sure to win again :D

:eek:

*runs from rabid Dems*

No, he'd be seen as too extreme. You have to move America to the center before you can move left, in my opinion.

Yes, and the fact is that the left has only been able to figure out how to move it right, then thinking the solution is to move more to the left. Got to love that New England limousine liberal battle strategy.

how about Oprah Winfrey?

Liverbreath']If democrats can talk McCain into switching over he would be their best shot at winning. He's already considered a turncoat and liberal by most of the republican party so his only tie would be whether or not he could maintain his own states support. He has to know he's burned his bridges which I believe was intentional so such a move would not surprise me. Toss in a night out with Hillary and you all will own his sole!
I would rather have McCain remain in the Republican party if for nothing more than to be voice of reason, much like Voinavich or Ron Paul and a few others. There is a loose confederation of moderates in the Republican party that I feel are needed, the same goes for the Democrats. He is one of the few Republicans who have an idea of fiscal responsibility. Although he would make a wonderful independent.

how about Oprah Winfrey?

Democratic leadership rules with an iron fist. Even with her money she'd never pull it off. Socialists have a firm grip on the party and they are not letting go for a second.

I would rather have McCain remain in the Republican party if for nothing more than to be voice of reason, much like Voinavich or Ron Paul and a few others. There is a loose confederation of moderates in the Republican party that I feel are needed, the same goes for the Democrats. He is one of the few Republicans who have an idea of fiscal responsibility. Although he would make a wonderful independent.

Yes, if I were a democrat I would certainly agree with keeping him there too, however, I believe hes burned his bridges. Voinavich already knows he's got nothing coming so he is probably looking for a job. Ron Paul, I think we will be hearing much more from but I dont think he's interested in a leadership role, as it would interfere greatly with is independence and let's face it. An independent seldom ever swims in the shark pool in either party.

Liverbreath']Yes, if I were a democrat I would certainly agree with keeping him there too, however, I believe hes burned his bridges. Voinavich already knows he's got nothing coming so he is probably looking for a job. Ron Paul, I think we will be hearing much more from but I dont think he's interested in a leadership role, as it would interfere greatly with is independence and let's face it. An independent seldom ever swims in the shark pool in either party.
I don't mean as in leadership roles, I mean having them in the party to keep the more ideological members in check. McCain has the makings of an independent with a wide range of supporters, but as you've said he has little chance of a victory as an independent. I suppose party-politics are embedded in our culture now. Ron Paul is one of favorites, but is more of an advocate than anything else. It is somewhat difficult for me to picture McCain as a Democrat because he still holds dear to the Republican party of the days of old.

Howard Dean is from Vermont. He'll never win.
Vermont kicks ass, our senators pwn.

Howard Dean, that way the Democrats will have a candidate who's actually left wing.

Any true Christian that is commited to righteous and absolute morals, values, ethics and justice will do. A true Christian in every Party..... now that would be a perfect win/win scenario. GOD bless!

Howard Dean...definitely...because he is such a hotheaded foot-in-mouth that he would NEVER win. :p
That's funny, I thought he would more closely match your views of what the government should be like than almost anyone the Republicans would put up.

Howard Dean, that way the Democrats will have a candidate who's actually left wing.
No, he'd be seen as too extreme. You have to move America to the center before you can move left, in my opinion.
Howard Dean is one of those tax-cutters, which does not sound very left-wing to me.

Liverbreath']Democratic leadership rules with an iron fist. Even with her money she'd never pull it off. Socialists have a firm grip on the party and they are not letting go for a second.
You've got to be joking. There is no socialist party in America. You've got the centre-right and the far-right.

Howard Dean is one of those tax-cutters, which does not sound very left-wing to me.In and of itself, no. But you have to take into account is support for abortion rights, and his support for civil unions. Not to mention his anti-Iraq war stance, and his willingness to engage the Republicans as opposed to kowtowing to them.

In and of itself, no. But you have to take into account is support for abortion rights, and his support for civil unions. Not to mention his anti-Iraq war stance, and his willingness to engage the Republicans as opposed to kowtowing to them.
He sounds more like a libertarian than a leftist in that case.

I don't think that McCain would ever leave the Republican party. If Joe Lieberman were to run, I would vote for him. He, and McCain, are often voices of reason and I believe a bi-partisan ticket, with either one running for President would be hard to beat. That said, I believe the Dems are pushing Hillary as their potential candidate.

If you want to examine another possible woman candidate that the Dems may run, take a look at Blanche Lincoln. She's from Arkansas, too, and she has an excellent record.

http://www.issues2000.org/Senate/Blanche_Lambert_Lincoln.htm

He sounds more like a libertarian than a leftist in that case.A leftist libertarian, then.

A leftist libertarian, then.
How? He sounds like a moderate libertarian. Leftist is an overarching term for various types of socialists. It has nothing to do with abortion or gays.

Myrth.

Myrth!

bill richardson

hispanic governor of new mexico, former congressman, former sec. of energy, former ambassador to the UN. well liked around the world. his only downside is that hes a bit homely.

bill richardson

hispanic governor of new mexico, former congressman, former sec. of energy, former ambassador to the UN. well liked around the world. his only downside is that hes a bit homely.

Actually he WOULD be a good choice.

I also like Joe Biden too.

Joseph R. Biden, Jr. was first elected to the United States Senate in 1972 at the age of twenty-nine and is recognized as one of the nation’s most powerful and influential voices on foreign relations, terrorism, drug policy, and crime prevention.

It doesn't matter who the Democratic candidate is in 08 as the Republicans will win the election no matter who runs for the Dems.

Gore.Hillary doen't have a chance in the sexist US, perhaps she can run in the gay US leap dog-UK or in France.
Republicans will winn next time because there is no more democracy and ellections will be a fraud again, like last two ones. (Blacks in Florida's Bush, no recount in term 1 aso dirty tricks). Seems like the Bulgarian election was more clean today, even Iran with their neo con version that won



Excuse me, I believe you're the first democrat to say the second election was a fraud too. Care to elaborate?

Howard Dean, mainly because I want the democrats to lose :D

Excuse me, I believe you're the first democrat to say the second election was a fraud too. Care to elaborate?

Hardly the first democrat to say it. Go check out any democrat-liberal forum. They don't understand the shift this country has gone through so they blame fraud.

Any true Christian that is commited to righteous and absolute morals, values, ethics and justice will do. A true Christian in every Party..... now that would be a perfect win/win scenario. GOD bless!


*sigh* One can only dream :)

I believe the only way Hillary would not be the nomnee is if she chose not to run. It's hers for the asking.

And, depending on who the repubs run, she could win. It would be as divisive and polarizing as the 2004 election and results.

Gavin Newsom! :D :p ;)

It doesn't matter who the Democratic candidate is in 08 as the Republicans will win the election no matter who runs for the Dems.

Only if the Republicans cheat AGAIN!

Given those choices, and not much else of an option except a first year Senator (named Obama), this may be the best option in 08:

http://www.professor.com/billthecat4prez-1.jpg

I was surprised Obama didn't make the poll... Guess you have to stop somewhere... What do Dems think about Lieberman/Obama???

Dean. :)

I was surprised Obama didn't make the poll... Guess you have to stop somewhere... What do Dems think about Lieberman/Obama???

Huh?!? Under what platform, the "Two Targets for America?!?"

To be totally politically incorrect, the odds of a Connecticut Jew and a young black guy winning is only slightly better than a Cheney/David Duke ticket...

Only if the Republicans cheat AGAIN!


IMO, if you aren't bright enough to make sure you punched your ballot then do you really need to be participating in the selection of the world's most powerful individual?

IMO, if you aren't bright enough to make sure you punched your ballot then do you really need to be participating in the selection of the world's most powerful individual?

We are in the same nation where you can sue because the coffee was hot, OJ, Blake and Michael Jackson all went free, and George Lucas is still (inexplicably) allowed to make movies...

IMO, if you aren't bright enough to make sure you punched your ballot then do you really need to be participating in the selection of the world's most powerful individual?

The fraud had nothing to do with the recount.. it was Katherine Harris who purged all those legal African American voters from the list. When the lists were looked at, and the reasons given, it was obvious that the names purged from the voters list in some cases only shared a last name, or some times were not even the same gender as the criminal they were trying to purge and yet they purged them anyway. It would of had to take a complete idiot or fraud for the names on the voting list that got purged. I could give a shit about the recount. If the Florida elections committee had not committed fraud, there would of been no need for a recount because Gore would of won easily.

And the last election, well anyone who trusted Diebold to actually count their vote after the president of the company saying he would do anything to get Bush elected again, well, I think you get the picture.

I personally think that if Hillary ran in 08 she would win simply because after Bush only the religious nuts and hardcore republicans would vote for a republican after having the most unpopular Republican President since NIXON!

That is if we can keep the Republicans from commiting voter fraud.


As of 2008, we will have had 20 years of either a Bush or Clinton in office. Can't we get a qualified President without those surnames? Let's have a fresh start, shall we?

I was surprised Obama didn't make the poll... Guess you have to stop somewhere... What do Dems think about Lieberman/Obama???


Senators hardly ever win. They don't have the leadership skills really necessary as say a Governor.

We are in the same nation where you can sue because the coffee was hot, OJ, Blake and Michael Jackson all went free, and George Lucas is still (inexplicably) allowed to make movies...

That's because Michael Jackson was clearly innocent. To say that he molested that boy is simply idiocy.

Personally, I don't think Dean's got a chance in hell of winning. He's too extreme for US voters; the strongest would probably be Biden/Obama (or vice versa), in my opinion.

Can you say gravedig?

Can you say gravedig?

Again?!? Who the hell keeps digging these up? :confused:

why doesn't everybody just vote for me?

Governor Mark Warner would have the best shot at winning the Presidency. I think he would have a tough time winning the primaries, though.

That's because Michael Jackson was clearly innocent. To say that he molested that boy is simply idiocy.

Riiiiiight. And so are Blake & OJ Simpson. :rolleyes:

omg another political thread... damn... who the hell is digging these threads up? damn it..

omg another political thread... damn... who the hell is digging these threads up? damn it..

A new poster named Marcks...I saw that they were the first to post in the thread since June 26th, and posted today.

Myrth!
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