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The Undead?

Bolol
25-06-2005, 21:39
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!
Celtlund
25-06-2005, 21:41
No.
Jordaxia
25-06-2005, 21:44
in the future... you could keep a corpse mobile with machinery, and have a command line that says "BRAAAAAAAAAAAAINS" and hey presto, Zombies. Aside from that, I'll just tell you a line you know so well.

"When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth"

Given that there is a hell pizzeria somewhere, one only needs to fill it up to start the zombie apocalypse. only bad thing is that it burnt down.
The Downmarching Void
25-06-2005, 21:45
Zombies are all around us:Reporting the news, standing in line next to us at the bank, doing 100 KPH in the left lane and moving for no one.


On a more serious note, drug induced zombism does exist and has been verified scientificly. Actual undead? I dunno...I doubt it, but I wish they did, because that would mean all other kinds of fantastical and magical things are real.

It'd be pretty tricky balancing Entropy and Life in such a way as to create zombies, ghouls and their ilk. I think they'd have a tendency to spontaneously unravel every so often when some random factor tipped the scales to one side or the other.
JuNii
25-06-2005, 21:46
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!Could exsist? why not, stranger things have happened.

I know some people in my school that would fit the term of Zombie... well without the flesh-eating part that is.
The Chocolate Goddess
25-06-2005, 21:47
I am reminded of the Serpent and the Rainbow...
...
So.. yes?
The Noble Men
25-06-2005, 21:48
Living Dead?!?

Nope.
Bolol
25-06-2005, 21:54
For those of you interested, I recommend the following weapons for dealing with the undead...

Remington 870 Shotgun
Ithaca Steakout Shotgun
Franchi SPAS 12 Tactical Shotgun
H&K G3 Assault Rifle
H&K G53 Assault Carbine
H&K MP5 Series SMG
H&K UMP .45 Auto
Glock 18 Extended
Colt M1911A1 .45 Auto
Colt Python
Colt Annaconda

Katana
Wakizashi
Dashi No
(Japanese Swords are high quality!)
JuNii
25-06-2005, 21:58
Living Dead?!?

Nope.Obviously you haven't seen us at my old working place (library) the only place where, at quitting time, the dead come back to life. :D

Speaking of which... ever see those signs outside 'Those' clubs that advertise "Live Erotic Dancers" as apposed to what... dead ones?
The Noble Men
25-06-2005, 21:58
Where would you go if zombies invaded?

I'd hide in my school, I could last for ages there.

(I still don't belive in them!, btw)
JuNii
25-06-2005, 21:58
For those of you interested, I recommend the following weapons for dealing with the undead...

Remington 870 Shotgun
Ithaca Steakout Shotgun
Franchi SPAS 12 Tactical Shotgun
H&K G3 Assault Rifle
H&K G53 Assault Carbine
H&K MP5 Series SMG
H&K UMP .45 Auto
Glock 18 Extended
Colt M1911A1 .45 Auto
Colt Python
Colt Annaconda

Katana
Wakizashi
Dashi No
(Japanese Swords are high quality!)you forgot, Chainsaw and weedwacker.
Lambda-Zeta
25-06-2005, 22:14
I have a somewhat healthy obsession with zombies and I do believe in being prepared. Even if an outbreak is unlikely, I would recommend you invest in a bicycle (cars don't run without gas), a survival kit (details in survival guides and books), and a map of your area. Remember, stay away from hospitals, churches, and highways in case of outbreak. Anyone who wants more details or info can shoot me a telegram. Don't become a part of the undead horde! I say this in jest, but it can't hurt to be prepared. :sniper:
The Noble Men
25-06-2005, 22:24
I have a somewhat healthy obsession with zombies and I do believe in being prepared. Even if an outbreak is unlikely, I would recommend you invest in a bicycle (cars don't run without gas), a survival kit (details in survival guides and books), and a map of your area. Remember, stay away from hospitals, churches, and highways in case of outbreak. Anyone who wants more details or info can shoot me a telegram. Don't become a part of the undead horde! I say this in jest, but it can't hurt to be prepared. :sniper:

What about schools?
Bolol
25-06-2005, 22:31
Well...according to the polls, more than half of you think I'm crazy.

Thanks! :D
The Noble Men
25-06-2005, 22:33
Well...according to the polls, more than half of you think I'm crazy.

Thanks! :D

Oh, I don't think you're crazy...

I know you are.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
25-06-2005, 22:33
Katana
Wakizashi
Dashi No

How, exactly, do you plan on having a sword fight with a zombie? With the exception being Fencing Zombies (which have twice the hitpoints of regular zombies, carry rapiers, and can have an increased mental capacity allowing them to discuss such diverse topics as "Brains?", "BRAINS!", and last nights episode of I Want to be a Hilton) creatures of the night don't understand the standard rules of fencing.
No, give me a good pike any day.
The Noble Men
25-06-2005, 22:36
How, exactly, do you plan on having a sword fight with a zombie? With the exception being Fencing Zombies (which have twice the hitpoints of regular zombies, carry rapiers, and can have an increased mental capacity allowing them to discuss such diverse topics as "Brains?", "BRAINS!", and last nights episode of I Want to be a Hilton) creatures of the night don't understand the standard rules of fencing.
No, give me a good pike any day.

Simple.

You chop their head off.

Not a fair fight, but who'd care?
German Nightmare
25-06-2005, 23:50
:eek::eek::eek:BRAINS!!!:eek::eek::eek:
Jervengad
25-06-2005, 23:56
Simple.

You chop their head off.

Not a fair fight, but who'd care?

If you're gonna go head-chopping then go with an axe
Xenophobialand
26-06-2005, 00:04
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!

Depends what you mean. The classic conception of "zombies" comes from the Voodoo religion. Medicine men managed to find a combination of drugs that would cause paralysis initially (hence the belief that the victim had "died"), as well as others that rendered a subject that was exhumed incredibly susceptible to suggestion. This drug would then be fed daily to the new slave laborers, who couldn't be targeted by legal means because, hey, the laborers are legally deceased. If the drug was not fed, the zombies tended to wake up and return to where they lived previously, and meet some very horrified family members.

If you mean the movie version of zombies, then hell no. In order to move, you have to expend energy, and to expend energy, you have to have a working cardiovascular system to feed the fuel and the oxygen needed for cellular energy production. As has been shown in the movies, however, zombies have no circulation, and no real need for digestion, aside from spreading the disease to humans. While this is more than a bit terrifying, in the real world zombies simply couldn't operate after a few minutes, because they'd have no more fuel to burn and no oxygen getting to their cells to fuel it with.

And as a side note, the best anti-zombie meelee weapon would be the morningstar. It allows you to crush a zombie's skull, or at least knock it over, without running the sword or axe's risk of getting stuck in the head (decapitation won't do anything: you have to critically damage the brain, remember?)
Liverbreath
26-06-2005, 00:11
It all depends on your definition of zombie. Mine as follows:

Lack of a thought process
Lack of direction
Lack of focus
Stares blankly in a single direction until food enters the room then becomes completely uncontrolable, foams at the mouth and spits out any manner of foul garbage.
Follows others blindly
Picks brains but never displays them.

Yep, sure they exist. AKA American Liberal
Naturality
26-06-2005, 00:58
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!

Could, possibly... maybe... I dunno.
Bolol
26-06-2005, 01:35
If you're gonna go head-chopping then go with an axe

Problem is, axes have a much shorter reach and are not easy to slice. The handle can also break easily and send the axe head flying. The biggest issue; they are heavy and unweildy. They are meant for vertical chopping, nothing more.

A well sharpened, short sword like the Samurai's Katana is prefered, as it can stab, slice, and easily decapitate due to it's cutting edge.
Red Tide2
26-06-2005, 01:39
My personal way of dealing with zombies is to nuke the city they are in as soon as they appear. The heat from the explosion would kill the virus and render the corpse harmless. Another good weapon is a modern flamethrower. One short burst will kill the virus inside.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2005, 01:44
The zombies are everywhere, MANNNN, theyre under our beds, MANNNNN, theyre like, gonna eat our brains, MANNNNN.

In other news, battleaxes, large calibur blackpowder weapons (for use against single zombies only) and large bore cannons, artillery, and flamethowers are also effective.
Be careful with the last though, some zombies are flame resistant and will attack you whilst on fire.
This is bad.
We suggest using a high-poweded hose, such as might be found on a firetruck.
Aside from that, nukes, FABS (Fuel Air Bombs) and +20,000lbs bombs are all proven to be effective.

WARNING:
Do not let any zombie attempt a 'vulcan mind meld' with you, no matter how much it looks like Spock.
Boonytopia
26-06-2005, 01:45
Nope, but I love a good zombie movie.
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2005, 01:48
Nope, but I love a good zombie movie.
A 'good' zombie movie?
:confused:
Boonytopia
26-06-2005, 01:53
A 'good' zombie movie?
:confused:

Shaun of the dead.

Dawn of the dead.
Jibea
26-06-2005, 02:04
The religious group on Jamaca or one of the Caribean islands (Horrible spelling, but I dont care) would be insulted, by your corrupt definitions of zombie.

A zombie is a person who was subjected to the zombie curse (they don't like that). The zombie then becomes like a slave to the person who subjected them to the curse (which affects you after you are dead, administered while you are alive/almost dead). Yeah, their physical features are the same(or close to) though if I am not mistaken, they lose all of their memory.
Jibea
26-06-2005, 02:07
Something from warcraft 3 (not identical but pretty darn close)

The undead?, the undead?, I'll tell you how to kill the undead.
Their guy pulls out a sword, your guy pulls out a gun.
They send your guy to the hospital, you send theirs to the morge.
That's how you kill the undead.

Or in D&D and/or like all undead/demons take holy water and splash it on them, or in their eyes. Insta kill :)
Dontgonearthere
26-06-2005, 02:12
The religious group on Jamaca or one of the Caribean islands (Horrible spelling, but I dont care) would be insulted, by your corrupt definitions of zombie.

A zombie is a person who was subjected to the zombie curse (they don't like that). The zombie then becomes like a slave to the person who subjected them to the curse (which affects you after you are dead, administered while you are alive/almost dead). Yeah, their physical features are the same(or close to) though if I am not mistaken, they lose all of their memory.
Yeah, but most voodoo witchdocters dont have internet access yet.
Man, that would be DANGEROUS over NS, what with the tempers running high almost constantly.
Sabbatis
26-06-2005, 02:13
I voted no, and then thought about it for a second. Other than the fun part of the zombie thing, is there any factual evidence for the undead (I mean other than drug induced, etc.)?
Dephonia
26-06-2005, 02:15
I'm impressed, at least one whole page of replies and no D&D bashing/people calling you an evil due-to-burn-in-hell kiddy fiddler. I'm impressed. Of course, I only read the first page so far, so I may have missed something :rolleyes:

EDIT: As a note on weaponry, remember your D&D - bludgeoning weapons are the best against undead. Unless that doesn't apply to zombies in 3E/3.5, I can't remember. I just stick to 2E AD&D.
Kombulu
26-06-2005, 02:16
concerning the types of weapons employed to properly combat the undead menace, I noticed someone mentioned chainsaws or weed whackers. A chainsaw weighs somewhere between 10 and 15 pounds, requires fuel, and makes a vulgar amount of noise, none of which are very helpful when making an escape from an infested zone. It is entirely dependent on the user of the tool to not slip and end up cutting themselves or a team member (because no man or woman, alone and well armed, is truly enough to successfully hunt, fight, defend against, or otherwise efficiently deal with, a zombie infestation.)

Morningstar as an efficient bludgeon? It could work, but it runs exactly the same risk of getting stuck as any other weapon. I would suggest a crowbar, which, when not being used to brain the living dead, could also be used as a tool for entering buildings or removing obstacles.

As mentioned, the Japanese katana is the best choice of melee weapons. It is light, sharp, and short enough for many combat situations (in corridors, woods, streets, etc...). For long range rifle work, ignore higher calibers if you can. Fully automatic? Don't. The key to efficient zombie hunting is in the single shot kill, and with automatic or semi-automatic firearms the urge to switch to full auto and pepper your assailants is too high. Body shots are almost useless unless you hope to slow down a zombie by removing legs or creating 'dead' weight by almost (but not completely) severing an arm or two. Stick with a .22 rimfire rifle, as the smaller caliber enables more room for extra ammunition in a pack, and has just enough punch to enter the braincase and bounce around inside, causing more damage than any .45mm Magnum or hand cannon could.

Concerning explosives and artillery? Wasted efforts. Despite popular belief, the heat from these flames will NOT kill the virus, as it is unbelievably resistant to extreme temperatures (zombies have been set aflame, only to continue their attack ten times deadlier- not only are they biting you, but they're on fire now too). Fire, if it can be controlled, could serve as a barrier or corral for a brief period of time, but only as such. Besides this, the chances of procuring a military-grade flamethrower legally are extremely small. The same can be said for acquiring large bore cannons or nuclear devices of any kind. Nuking zombies could, conceivably, work, except for the fact that the undead 'survivors' would now be radioactive and water and food sources would become contaminated as well.

Schools with at least two floors 'can' be safe, if the staircases are safely demolished and supplies gathered as neccessary. The Zombie Survival Guide details exact amounts of supplies that groups should carry.

Concerning oxygen and energy for zombies? They don't need it. The zombie anatomy functions independent of anything once remotely human. Zombie brains are able to process one thought and one thought only- "Brains". They have no collective mind, are unable to rebuild muscle tissue after tearing it, cannot swim (but can walk underwater until they dissolve/decompose), or otherwise possess any ablities the human it once was did not have.

If you're the biggest zombie freak, I'm the second biggest.
Red Tide2
26-06-2005, 02:22
About heat not working on the zombie causing virus...

In the movie Dawn of the Dead(at least according to its website). The virus can be killed with a short burst of flames. Considering that nuclear devices give off heat for(depending on the yield and distance from ground zero) AT LEAST 1 minute worth(the higher the yield, the longer the heat lingers).

Also... a zombie walking underwater will more likely then not get crushde by the pressure(assuming its going after a oil platform, criuse liner, or nuclear submarine)
CthulhuFhtagn
26-06-2005, 02:23
EDIT: As a note on weaponry, remember your D&D - bludgeoning weapons are the best against undead. Unless that doesn't apply to zombies in 3E/3.5, I can't remember. I just stick to 2E AD&D.
Nah. You only used bludgeoning weapons against skellies. Go for slashing against zombies.
Carthago Deuce
26-06-2005, 02:45
Are you sure you would go for .22 rimfire? The 5.56x45mm (.223 rem) or 6.8mm cartriges would be more effective at greater range while still being fairly small and light. Same goes for just about any other cartridges developed for use in an assult rifle.

As for melee weapons, I would go with a European sword instead of a Japanese one. Because of the edge geometry it is less likely to have the blade damaged by any bones it encounters, or end up getting stuck in them when you really need it. Also good one are less expensive than their Japanese counterparts of comparable quality.

But then again one should use what they are used to/have available.
JuNii
26-06-2005, 03:33
Problem is, axes have a much shorter reach and are not easy to slice. The handle can also break easily and send the axe head flying. The biggest issue; they are heavy and unweildy. They are meant for vertical chopping, nothing more.

A well sharpened, short sword like the Samurai's Katana is prefered, as it can stab, slice, and easily decapitate due to it's cutting edge.ahh. but there are stores that sell battle axes... and not those wimpy, cannot be sharpened axe but a fully sharp double headed bearded axe.

as for other good zombie movies...

Night of the Comet was good.
Resident Evil 1/2 was alright (although they never called em zombies)
Night of the Living Dead is a classic.
and the Evil Dead series (tho I won't argue if people insist that those are not zombie films)
and the one that I personnally wanna see.

Orgy of the Dead.

(Heard it's the bloodiest film to date!)
JuNii
26-06-2005, 03:34
Nah. You only used bludgeoning weapons against skellies. Go for slashing against zombies.if we're talking D&D stuff... any weapon that is Undead Bane will do.
Randomlittleisland
26-06-2005, 14:46
RAGHHH!!!!!
[/tries to eat keyboard] :mad:
Daistallia 2104
26-06-2005, 15:09
Have you played All Flesh Must be Eaten, Bolol? If not, you should certainly give it a go.

Anyway, no. Don't believe in the undead. Fun to imagine, and Romero's and Rami's films are excellent fun, but nope.

For those of you interested, I recommend the following weapons for dealing with the undead...

Remington 870 Shotgun
Ithaca Steakout Shotgun
Franchi SPAS 12 Tactical Shotgun
H&K G3 Assault Rifle
H&K G53 Assault Carbine
H&K MP5 Series SMG
H&K UMP .45 Auto
Glock 18 Extended
Colt M1911A1 .45 Auto
Colt Python
Colt Annaconda

Katana
Wakizashi
Dashi No
(Japanese Swords are high quality!)

No. No, no no!
Listen up you primitive apes! The best weapon for dealing witrh the undead is The 12-gauge double-barreled Remington "Boom-stick". It is available at S-Marts everywhere, and retails for about $109.95. You can find it in the sporting goods department. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger.

Remember: Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?
German Nightmare
26-06-2005, 16:46
Have you played All Flesh Must be Eaten, Bolol? If not, you should certainly give it a go.
Good one! Another one I can definitely recommend is "Zombies" by Twilight Creations, a good boardgame with all the classic zombie movie elements in it.

And how come that people consider a chainsaw a good weapon? Especially with the "new" virus-in-the-blood-zombies splattering everything with contaminated gore is definintely not a good idea.

BTW, I'm really looking forward to "Land of the Dead"!:eek::eek::eek:
Anarchic Conceptions
26-06-2005, 16:52
Dashi No


You sure?

It's a bit large and unwieldy. If a mob was advancing you you'd be a gonna.

No. No, no no!
Listen up you primitive apes! The best weapon for dealing witrh the undead is The 12-gauge double-barreled Remington "Boom-stick". It is available at S-Marts everywhere, and retails for about $109.95. You can find it in the sporting goods department. It's got a walnut stock, cobalt blue steel, and a hair trigger.

Remember: Shop smart. Shop S-Mart. You got that?

:D

Hail to the king baby
Falhaar
26-06-2005, 17:12
I hate to burst your bubble Bolol, but you are in fact only the second greatest zombie fan on the planet.

Just FYI. ;)
Ekland
26-06-2005, 17:34
Perhaps a combination of drugs and psychosomatic manipulation could yield a Zombie like result. They would not technically be "dead" in the strictest sense of the word. :p

I would suggest the Naginata for dealing with them up close. It has substantially more reach then a typical Katana so you can keep them at bay. While it is a pole arm, it can be used for close up in-fighting unlike the pike.

Beyond that, hi-caliber pistols (I like the Desert Eagle personally though some revolvers are nice) and shotguns are the name of the game. The H&K UMP is a good SMG for the job as well.
Saige Dragon
26-06-2005, 18:00
concerning the types of weapons employed to properly combat the undead menace, I noticed someone mentioned chainsaws or weed whackers. A chainsaw weighs somewhere between 10 and 15 pounds, requires fuel, and makes a vulgar amount of noise, none of which are very helpful when making an escape from an infested zone. It is entirely dependent on the user of the tool to not slip and end up cutting themselves or a team member (because no man or woman, alone and well armed, is truly enough to successfully hunt, fight, defend against, or otherwise efficiently deal with, a zombie infestation.)


Haven't you ever played Doom? You a lone space marine kicking hells ass with a chainsaw. And because there a now 3 Doom games there are 3 proofs supporting the lone person with a chainsaw can deal with a zombie infestation as well as the apocolypse.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 02:50
Of course we do. :p
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 02:52
Katana
Wakizashi
Dashi No
(Japanese Swords are high quality!)

Some are, some aren't. You can buy cheap, crappy katana.

I'm sticking with my spanish forged longsword. It's good steel.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 02:54
Obviously you haven't seen us at my old working place (library) the only place where, at quitting time, the dead come back to life. :D

Speaking of which... ever see those signs outside 'Those' clubs that advertise "Live Erotic Dancers" as apposed to what... dead ones?

As opposed to pre recorded porn, I suppose.
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 02:59
Yeah, but most voodoo witchdocters dont have internet access yet.
Man, that would be DANGEROUS over NS, what with the tempers running high almost constantly.

Bollocks, there are people in developed countries with net access who practice voodoo, and even have incorporated the use of computers into their practice. Voodoo is nothing if it's not adaptable.

Btw, they're not 'witchdoctors' they're houngans (priests).
Xhadam
27-06-2005, 03:00
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!

Two points. One, A CAT Scan won't won't determine sanity.

Two, if by Zombie one means animate human body that died, then yes, technically I suppose Zombies do exist in the form of people who died and were recussitated my doctors or paramedics. ;)
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 03:04
ahh. but there are stores that sell battle axes... and not those wimpy, cannot be sharpened axe but a fully sharp double headed bearded axe.

as for other good zombie movies...

Night of the Comet was good.
Resident Evil 1/2 was alright (although they never called em zombies)
Night of the Living Dead is a classic.
and the Evil Dead series (tho I won't argue if people insist that those are not zombie films)
and the one that I personnally wanna see.

Orgy of the Dead.

(Heard it's the bloodiest film to date!)

Agreed. I also liked:
Undead (Aussie parody flick)
28 Days Later
Sean of the Dead
Dawn of the Dead (both the original and the remake).
New British Glory
27-06-2005, 03:05
I read a story today in the Mail on Sunday (please note it is the Mail on Sunday and so we cannot quite be sure as to whether it is true) about an experiment being conducted in Korea.

Apparently they have taken all the blood from dogs veins and then filled them with some sort of frozen salt mixture. Anyway the dog is clincially dead for something like three hours. Then they take the ice-salt stuff out from the veins and replace the blood then awaken the dog with an electric shock. The dog lives. So technically speaking these dogs have been dead and then have been alive again. So they could be called zombie dogs.

Of xourse this could be crap (having typed it out it definitely sounds like crap) but hell you might enjoy laughing at it.
Zion Five
27-06-2005, 03:08
Hey, I've got "The Zombie Survival Guide" by Max Brooks right here beside me.

I'm on a zombies kick at the minute, because I had a flash of inspiration for a zombie film, which I'm in the process of writing. So I'm doing my homework (read: sitting up all night drinking gin and watching b-movies) and the Brooks book is compulsory reading ;)
Flesh Eatin Zombies
27-06-2005, 03:11
For other Zombie films, go to http://www.allthingszombie.com/movies/landotd.php
Kombulu
27-06-2005, 05:58
Don't base information on how an individual can handle a zombie infestation off of a video game, my friend. Going it alone could get you killed, and could also result in the reanimation of another zombie if you aren't just eaten outright. But if you must insist on the Doom "super one man army" idea, remember that the main character also carries several different weapons besides the chainsaw. Realistically, it is impossible for any one person to carry that much equipment and still be able to retain mobility and efficiency in combat with the living dead, let alone the entire demonic horde from hell.

However, Doom kicks major ass. And Doom 3 is a beautiful thing. :)
Daistallia 2104
27-06-2005, 16:17
I would suggest the Naginata for dealing with them up close. It has substantially more reach then a typical Katana so you can keep them at bay. While it is a pole arm, it can be used for close up in-fighting unlike the pike.

Having studied naginata here in Japan, I cannot but help agree. The kata we studied were all tachi-naginata. And every on occassion I've seen a sparring match between a kendo-ka and a naginata-ka, the naginata has come out on top. (That's in part due to those kata - the kendo folks don't train against naginata, so naginata who do even kata training against tachi have a big advantage. :D)

Oh, and while I'm on the subject:
Bolol, I hope you mean a No Dachi (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/swords/nodachi.html) (aka "o dachi") and not dashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashi). A very long sword is more likely to be of use against most undead than a kelp and bonito soup stock.... ;)
[NS]Karidnosen
27-06-2005, 16:36
I feel for the poor zombies. As if it's not bad enough that they are falling to pieces, I am of the opinion that they are misunderstood.

If a zombie is ambling towards you, arms raised with a gaping mouth and groaning most people will automatically assume that the zombie is after brains. Not so my friend! What those raised arms and that deadpan face mean are "I want a hug." Our poor zombie friends just need a little loving. :fluffle:

Even moreso, if you consider a zombie on the undead scale they're at the bottom of the heap. Skellies are above zombies, if only because they don't have to deal with limbs, jaws, and various other body parts falling off. Vampires and their ilk are far above as their brain functions are in working order.

Do not hate your brother (or sister) zombie, embrace them and accept him (or her) for who they are.
Enact "Zombie Appreciation Day" today!
Kiwi-kiwi
27-06-2005, 17:06
I would suggest the Naginata for dealing with them up close. It has substantially more reach then a typical Katana so you can keep them at bay. While it is a pole arm, it can be used for close up in-fighting unlike the pike.

Yes! If you're going to be slashing up zombies, as opposed to blowing their brains out, you'd want something that keeps you as far away from them as possible. So blade-on-a-stick weapons are good. Naginata, glaive, etc... of course, even some sort of staff weapon would work if you get a hard enough blow to the brain I would think. I'm not really well versed in the merits of weapons.
Bolol
27-06-2005, 17:09
Oh, and while I'm on the subject:
Bolol, I hope you mean a No Dachi (http://www.angelfire.com/dragon/swords/nodachi.html) (aka "o dachi") and not dashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashi). A very long sword is more likely to be of use against most undead than a kelp and bonito soup stock.... ;)

SOUP?! :confused:

My God, I had no idea...
Daistallia 2104
27-06-2005, 17:21
SOUP?! :confused:

My God, I had no idea...

:D No worries. I've lived here 14 years, and I still make hilarious mistakes. There was the great classic when I insisted that "all foreigners are carrots!" Just a little touble diffentiating between ninjin (carrot) and ningen (humans). :D

(And the statement that "There's my friend. I'm going over to eat him" as opposed to speak with him - taberu/shaberu - caused quite a bit of hilarity one evening at the bar.)
Kombulu
27-06-2005, 22:23
Karidnosen']I feel for the poor zombies. As if it's not bad enough that they are falling to pieces, I am of the opinion that they are misunderstood.

If a zombie is ambling towards you, arms raised with a gaping mouth and groaning most people will automatically assume that the zombie is after brains. Not so my friend! What those raised arms and that deadpan face mean are "I want a hug." Our poor zombie friends just need a little loving. :fluffle:

Even moreso, if you consider a zombie on the undead scale they're at the bottom of the heap. Skellies are above zombies, if only because they don't have to deal with limbs, jaws, and various other body parts falling off. Vampires and their ilk are far above as their brain functions are in working order.

Do not hate your brother (or sister) zombie, embrace them and accept him (or her) for who they are.
Enact "Zombie Appreciation Day" today!

Skeletons? If skeletons could be animated (which is impossible because there are no muscles, nerves, or brain tissue to transmit commands to either of those), they certainly wouldn't be above zombies, just because of the fact they have almost no weight or strength of which to speak. Zombies at least have the ex-human's body at their disposal for leverage.

Misunderstood they could be, however I have yet to see a zombie hug a human as opposed to chomping those broken, disgusting teeth on their flesh.

The only zombie I can appreciate is one that's on the ground and de-animated. :mp5:
BastardSword
27-06-2005, 22:48
(I've been off recently, so...I'm doing something stupid :p)

I consider myself the biggest zombie FREAK on this Earth, next to George A. Romero himself (cue chorus). And...maybe that psychopath Max Brooks.

I've played the Resident Evil games, watched almost every zombie movie in existence, an owner of The Zombie Survival Guide (by the psychopath Max Brooks), and a level 20 Necromancer in D&D. After all this...I just might be convinced that the undead EXIST!

(According to my last C.A.T. Scan, I am legally sane.)

My question to you: based on hypothetical knowledge, odd occurances, scientific theories or life experiences, do you think zombies could or do exist?

Tee hee!


Didn't you hear about the kid who wrote a essay in a jorney he had in the attic. His grandparents turned him in for Zombie terrorism. He mentionbed that Zombies attacked a school.

Apparently Feds take Zombie terrorism very seriously. Makes you wonder what the Feds know aboit Zombies being real we don't.

I bet few of you know the difference between a Zombie ands ghoul. Most "Zombie" movies are ghoul movies.

Zombies can't talk and only take partial actions, slow moving or what not. Don't eat...just follow orders. If they attack you, they are just following a order from creator.

Skeletons: Fast, follow orders just like Zombie, ghave no ideas/Initiative of own.

Ghouls are more dangerous: they can paralyze you with a poison they have in them, causes ligi mortis or something even though you alive.
They can speak and eat flesh.
Aurores Lunacy
28-06-2005, 00:01
*she gets out her voodoo book, her JuJu and doll & needles just for fun*
The Mindset
28-06-2005, 00:05
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html

Zombies exist.