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For a brief time here on NS General, I made a few posts that said I was in the US Army ... specifically, a US Army Ranger.

Unfortunately, I was bitten by my own bug. I like to go onto forums and fuck around and pretend to be something just for the sake of the anonymity of the internet.

Never once did I ask for thanks, praise, or money for my ruse; but it was offensive nonetheless. There are those on these forums who have served and I have done them a great injustice.

For the public record, I have never served. I admire and appreciate those who have, but I myself have not.

Unfortunately, this has cast a shadow on some of the other things which I have said on these forums that are true: I am of Caddo descent. My grandmother was one of the last of the full blooded Nakohodotsi and I'm very proud of that. I am Muslim, converted on Nov. 29, 2004 at the mosque at ISGH North in Houston, TX (not difficult to verify). I am Jewish, though I will not give you my mother's phone number to verify that (like I want some of you pervs calling my mother).

I just wanted to set the record straight. I am an internet asshole, yes, but even I think I went too far in claiming to be one of our fine men in uniform.

I deeply and humbly apologise.

I for one accept your appology.

Is it worth it?

Is it worth it?

No ... it's just the internet. A place I've seen as a fun little playground for many years. Perhaps my opnion on that is changing.

For a brief time here on NS General, I made a few posts that said I was in the US Army ... specifically, a US Army Ranger.

Unfortunately, I was bitten by my own bug. I like to go onto forums and fuck around and pretend to be something just for the sake of the anonymity of the internet.

Never once did I ask for thanks, praise, or money for my ruse; but it was offensive nonetheless. There are those on these forums who have served and I have done them a great injustice.

For the public record, I have never served. I admire and appreciate those who have, but I myself have not.

Unfortunately, this has cast a shadow on some of the other things which I have said on these forums that are true: I am of Caddo descent. My grandmother was one of the last of the full blooded Nakohodotsi and I'm very proud of that. I am Muslim, converted on Nov. 29, 2004 at the mosque at ISGH North in Houston, TX (not difficult to verify). I am Jewish, though I will not give you my mother's phone number to verify that (like I want some of you pervs calling my mother).

I just wanted to set the record straight. I am an internet asshole, yes, but even I think I went too far in claiming to be one of our fine men in uniform.

I deeply and humbly apologise.
Accepted and appreciated.

accepted

I've got a question: What made you admit that you lied?

I've got a question: What made you admit that you lied?

Honestly? Age.

Is your mother hot? ;)

Hmm missed the Ranger comments.....

Accepted. Though I've a feeling you'll get a good bit of backlash for this. What made you pretend in the first place? Why not be yourself?

Is your mother hot? ;)

Hmm missed the Ranger comments.....

Wow...That was shallow...Congratulations...

[/sarcasm]

Wow...That was shallow...Congratulations...

[/sarcasm]


What about your mother? :p

What made you pretend in the first place? Why not be yourself?

One of those things. I've always liked the anonymity of the internet. However, with this, I went too far.

My conscious played on me. Why not be myself? In most ways, I am. Especially in the last couple of years, but I still have that instinct to hide myself on the internet.

So ... I spit out a couple of messages that were an affront to the men and women who are serving my country now - regardless of whether or not you agree with that service - and my conscious got the better of me for it.

Is your mother hot? ;)


Now or 20 years ago? ;) *lol*

Well Captian Kirk (If you still remember that), we are all internet jerks. Why else would we be here?

I can't remember wether or not I ever heard/read you say you were a US Army Ranger, and frankly I don't care. Really, all of the stuff I've seen you post is either really funny, or actually makes sense. I see no reason for you to be appologising.

But if you insist, it's accecpted.

Oh ease up a little.

He apologized so for someone like me? "Done and done"

Move on and forgetaboutit.

People say many things in the heat of passion. Character is what makes a person realize they said something bad and own up to it.

No worries!

Oh ease up a little.

He apologized so for someone like me? "Done and done"

Move on and forgetaboutit.

People say many things in the heat of passion. Character is what makes a person realize they said something bad and own up to it.

No worries!

Very well. I'm going to go...place...

But if you insist, it's accecpted.

I have to ... just one of those things. I have a deep respect for those people who have given up their lives to defend me and my children and by my silly internet tom foolery, I have potentially offended all of them.

So .. yeah. :) I have to.

Openly and publicly.

I remember. I being an actual former soldier did not believe you at the time, and it did cause me to be extremely dismissive of your other posts.

I accept your apology, and leave you with these passages reguarding forgiveness and apology...

Luke 6:37 - Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Luke 17:4 - And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

2 Corinthians 2:7 - So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

If only the world would follow these words we could "all just get along".

Forgive and forget is a motto to live by.

Luke 6:37 - Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Luke 17:4 - And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

2 Corinthians 2:7 - So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

If only the world would follow these words we could "all just get along".

I agree, if only...Sad isn't it?

you have earned my respect, keruvalia

its easy as can be to just fold up your tent and go away on the net. ive seen it many many times. sometimes people come back again under another name and give it another try. i thought that would be what you would do. i was wrong.

to face the music on this and apologize and stay when you can just as easily find another internet home requires a bit of courage. im glad you stayed.

to face the music on this and apologize and stay when you can just as easily find another internet home requires a bit of courage. im glad you stayed.


Welll ... fact is ....


i like you people


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Keruvalia - I respect you for being honest.

One of those things. I've always liked the anonymity of the internet. However, with this, I went too far.

My conscious played on me. Why not be myself? In most ways, I am. Especially in the last couple of years, but I still have that instinct to hide myself on the internet.

So ... I spit out a couple of messages that were an affront to the men and women who are serving my country now - regardless of whether or not you agree with that service - and my conscious got the better of me for it.

I understand being anonymous, but..you can still be yourself, without a name and other real world identifiers. It's best to stay true to yourself. If you don't, people will eventually find out, or at least suspect, and it will invalidate any of your valid points you've made, and people's general trust in you. Just my friendly advice.

I remember. I being an actual former soldier did not believe you at the time, and it did cause me to be extremely dismissive of your other posts.

I accept your apology, and leave you with these passages reguarding forgiveness and apology...

Luke 6:37 - Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Luke 17:4 - And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

2 Corinthians 2:7 - So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.

Ephesians 4:32 - And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

If only the world would follow these words we could "all just get along".

Although I didn't see the outrageous stuff that must have gone on with Keruvalia, that he feels apologetic for now, I agree with the apology was given and that forgiveness is in order. Being a veteran and a Christian, I agree with the scriptures quoted, done. And that's the end of that topic...

However, different topic, that last statement, about everyone following these words and we would all get along... Most people don't apologize, none of those scripture said to forgive anyone or anything before an apology is given. That is the primary difference.

That took nuts man. For the record, I'm thinking you may have made a fine paratrooper. Good luck to you and if it's something you admire, pursue it. Personally I would never do it again, but I'd never trade it for anything in the world either.

Although I didn't see the outrageous stuff that must have gone on with Keruvalia, that he feels apologetic for now, I agree with the apology was given and that forgiveness is in order. Being a veteran and a Christian, I agree with the scriptures quoted, done. And that's the end of that topic...

However, different topic, that last statement, about everyone following these words and we would all get along... Most people don't apologize, none of those scripture said to forgive anyone or anything before an apology is given. That is the primary difference.

I think you may be wrong here. For instance...

My mother was beaten by her father all throughout her childhood, she grew up to be a christian woman. She forgave him in her heart even though an apology was never spoken. She put it behind her and led a happy life. Later when her father was dying from Alziemers she was the only one who would accept him.

Mark 11:25 - And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses.

Also, read the lords prayer. Does it say (as we forgive those who tresspass against us) "if they apologise first"?

Thank you for your apology, and applause for you honesty in coming forward. I know that it must have been hard to do. Forgiven.

and "What Ashmoria said"

I think our internet friend did a very brave act. I think if more people would each day look at the previous days activities and decided what they need to change the world would be a better place. I applaud your act.

31. O SON OF BEING!
Bring thyself to account each day ere thou art summoned to a reckoning; for death, unheralded, shall come upon thee and thou shalt be called to give account for thy deeds.

(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

Its not my place to give forgiving, but I for one do not accept the apology. You obviously knew what you were doing at the time was wrong, you just didnt care. Its good you have repented, but still.

I too have an apology to make: I'm not really training to become a cage fighter.

PS: I takes balls to fess up, good on you Keruvalia.

That is kind of shady.

However, being an internet forum and all, neither the initial action nor the apology mean much to me.

That is kind of shady.

However, being an internet forum and all, neither the initial action nor the apology mean much to me.
Vitos! Where you been, man????

Appology accepted. That takes guts.

I always wonder how many people on line are what/who they say they are. I'm sure there are a lot of people who put on facades. I don't see a reason for it. It isn't necessary. Just be yourself. It's nice that you finally owned up to it. :)

Was good of you to own up to that.

Well Keruvalia (dammit don't you have some kinda abbreviation for your name? I can't spend all day on these ridiculously long names! ;)), what you did wasn't offensive to me, so I don't accept your apology.

It does take guts to apologize. I can't do it for one. Not that I ever need to ;), even though everyone thinks I'm a total asshole for never apologizing. Which is true. But I'm rambling on here for no reason, so anyway...yeah.

[QUOTE=Keruvalia]For a brief time here on NS General, I made a few posts that said I was in the US Army ... specifically, a US Army Ranger.

Hah! I knew it!
I called you out on this once, remember... big tough 260 pound US army ranger?

I knew you were full of it. Good to see you have owned up and matured but.

Just remember Keruv, if you never lie, you will always be a good person.

Appology accepted. That takes guts.

I always wonder how many people on line are what/who they say they are. I'm sure there are a lot of people who put on facades. I don't see a reason for it. It isn't necessary. Just be yourself. It's nice that you finally owned up to it. :)except the real me is really shy and quiet... it's sad that I consider alot of people here friends, and that number is more than ten times the number of my friends in IR.

Keruvalia, we all get caught up in the argument and the pretending. to me, No appology needed, but accepted because I know how hard that must've been on you.

Ah, Keruv, you have both destroyed and reinforced my picture of perfection.

Seriously though, I'm glad you faced up to everyone.
Me, I don't consciously decide to pretend to be someone else on the internet. (except shaving a few pounds off occasionally) But I do find myself dropping my tough facade. It seems less necessary online than in RL.

Who cares a lot?

Accepted dude :D

Though at least your lies were better than ppl like Cuneo, for example...

I can't be bothered lying. It would all catch up to me eventually. Plus when you start meeting the people online in real life (only one so far technically from this site, but anyway... plus I really wanna meet Celeste :D)

I forgive you, however, this is the reason I will *never* meet anyone from the internet. I can trust them that they are who they say they are, but there's no proof, so without it, no way I'd agree to meet someone. That said, it took courage to apologise when none was necessary (nobody would have found out, so ignorance would have been bliss:p) and I respect that.

As for the guys who quoted scripture, I think you'll find Keru is a Muslim, therefore scripture probably holds slightly less with him.

Czardas, Keruvalia is Keru for short ;)

Czardas, Keruvalia is Keru for short ;)Yay thanks Sanc :D

If I can't abbreviate it, it shouldn't be a name. Therefore I refer to Fris, Cog, Kat, Melkor, and Hack. If there was a way to abbreviate Myrth I'd do it. (You can call me 'Czar' if you have the same problem.)

Yay thanks Sanc :D

If I can't abbreviate it, it shouldn't be a name. Therefore I refer to Fris, Cog, Kat, Melkor, and Hack. If there was a way to abbreviate Myrth I'd do it. (You can call me 'Czar' if you have the same problem.)
So I would be called what? :eek:

So I would be called what? :eek:ROFLMAO

I'd tell you, but I don't want a forumban. ;)

Well, I guess I have to come clean too. My real name is Jesus and I live in the Pentagon.

So I would be called what? :eek:errr... BK?

ruler of all she surveys?

whatever you want to be called?

BJ?

Oh whoops... typo... :D

BJ?

Oh whoops... typo... :DYeah "double-A" you have to learn to be more careful. :D

errr... BK?

ruler of all she surveys?

whatever you want to be called?

BK is what those in my region call me. As well as ruler of all she surveys.

@ Spaam. Bad Spaam. You must be punished. *brandishes whip*

Yeah "double-A" you have to learn to be more careful. :D
Rawr... There wasn't any Spam so I went with Spaam...
Me and me ex-gf (though we weren't dating then) called ourselves Team Spam cos we posted so much on one of our old forums... I think we've still in the top 10 posters, after almost 2 years of virtually not posting ;)

BK is what those in my region call me. As well as ruler of all she surveys.

@ Spaam. Bad Spaam. You must be punished. *brandishes whip*
Rawr!

You know what I like ;)

Rawr... There wasn't any Spam so I went with Spaam...
Me and me ex-gf (though we weren't dating then) called ourselves Team Spam cos we posted so much on one of our old forums... I think we've still in the top 10 posters, after almost 2 years of virtually not posting ;)It doesn't seem like you've been following the same guidelines here. 2 years old and only 4,000 posts? Pathetic. ;) In just a few months I'll probably have more posts than you have now.

It doesn't seem like you've been following the same guidelines here. 2 years old and only 4,000 posts? Pathetic. ;) In just a few months I'll probably have more posts than you have now.
No, I don't spam anymore. Plus I've taken a few long breaks...

No, I don't spam anymore. Plus I've taken a few long breaks...

Not another one anytime soon, I hope... We lost Preebles not a month ago. It would be a sad thought to lose another!

Not another one anytime soon, I hope... We lost Preebles not a month ago. It would be a sad thought to lose another!
We shall see... though I think you'll never permanently get rid of me. ;)

We shall see... though I think you'll never permanently get rid of me. ;)No, you'll still be spaaming away in 2010 when I'm the top NS poster, Melkor's retired, and Frisbee is Game Administrator. Or something like that. ;)

My theories on human behavior are becoming truer everyday...being recognized conquers all...

For a brief time here on NS General, I made a few posts that said I was in the US Army ... specifically, a US Army Ranger.

Unfortunately, I was bitten by my own bug. I like to go onto forums and fuck around and pretend to be something just for the sake of the anonymity of the internet.

Never once did I ask for thanks, praise, or money for my ruse; but it was offensive nonetheless. There are those on these forums who have served and I have done them a great injustice.

For the public record, I have never served. I admire and appreciate those who have, but I myself have not.

Unfortunately, this has cast a shadow on some of the other things which I have said on these forums that are true: I am of Caddo descent. My grandmother was one of the last of the full blooded Nakohodotsi and I'm very proud of that. I am Muslim, converted on Nov. 29, 2004 at the mosque at ISGH North in Houston, TX (not difficult to verify). I am Jewish, though I will not give you my mother's phone number to verify that (like I want some of you pervs calling my mother).

I just wanted to set the record straight. I am an internet asshole, yes, but even I think I went too far in claiming to be one of our fine men in uniform.

I deeply and humbly apologise.
No one believed you anyway!!! :) Props on owning up, you didn't really need to, but if you needed to get it off your chest, consider it done!

give a crap, the whole point of net forums is that you can be whoever you want to be.

yea, I know everyone else said this already, but congrads on owning up to it, it took balls.

My favorite little thing that came out of the Army Ranger cherade is when you spent 3 pages explaining to someone the difference between a "rifle" and a "gun" in military terms :)

You weren't an Army Ranger? I like you even more now.

You weren't an Army Ranger? I like you even more now.

ditto

You weren't an Army Ranger? I like you even more now.

What she said.

Vitos! Where you been, man????

I have recently moved and started working 40-50 hr weeks away from a computer, so I don't get a chance to see NS until later in the evening, and even then I have been lurking.

No, you'll still be spaaming away in 2010 when I'm the top NS poster, Melkor's retired, and Frisbee is Game Administrator. Or something like that. ;)
My kids will be brought up on NS ;)

No, you'll still be spaaming away in 2010 when I'm the top NS poster, Melkor's retired, and Frisbee is Game Administrator. Or something like that. ;)
Only game admin for Frisbee? I'm expecting nothing less than Grand Administrator And Supreme Leader Of The World And All That Lies Beyond.

I think our internet friend did a very brave act. I think if more people would each day look at the previous days activities and decided what they need to change the world would be a better place. I applaud your act.

31. O SON OF BEING!
Bring thyself to account each day ere thou art summoned to a reckoning; for death, unheralded, shall come upon thee and thou shalt be called to give account for thy deeds.

(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)

GoodThoughts....Good to see you. I've missed reading your posts and your wisdom. Drop me a TG when you get a chance.


Keruvalia ...We all make mistakes and do things we later regret. Too few are strong enough and brave enough to admit their lapses. By doing this you have proven that you are of superior character and an honest man who cares deeply about his friends. Thank you!!