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Well, Gay Pride Week is almost over. So far I have seen tribute on VH1, TV-Land, and Comedy Central, all TV channels I enjoy. Some questions to all:

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

Here are my answers:
(1) I don't care either way, but I have to say, I find the concept of "gay pride" kind of ridiculous, like "patriotism" or something like that.
(2) Once again, I don't care.
(3) Yes, of course. I hope it becomes more mainstream as our culture develops a more evolved view on the GLBT community.
(4) Yes, many.
(5) Yes. I respect Gay Pride Week in the same way I respect Black History Month-because even though the culture, to some people's views, doesn't apply to me, I feel it has become enough a part of mainstream culture for me to show my support.

I didn't even know it was happening. Was this only in one country or worldwide?

(1) Whatever I don't care.
(2) Go ahead, I don't care.
(3) Sure if they want to.
(4) No becuase I don't have a TV cause my dad won't buy a new one :(
(5) Yeah sure.

(1) Yes. Discriminatedp-against minorities need a safe time to speak out.
(2) Unnecessary.
(3) Of course.
(4) I didn't even know there were any. And I've watched a lot of TV this week.
(5) Hell yeah.

Well, Gay Pride Week is almost over. So far I have seen tribute on VH1, TV-Land, and Comedy Central, all TV channels I enjoy. Some questions to all:

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?|
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

1. Sure.
2. Every week is straight pride week. Open your eyes.
3. Sure.
4. Nope, I don't watch US broadcast media that much.
5. Sure.

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?|
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?


(1) Yes.
(2) They get the other 51.
(3) Absolutely.
(4) No, but I will be at the Pride Parade tomorrow in Houston (as I have been for the last decade)
(5) If you can't, you're really missing out.

I'm going to a gay pride parade tomorrow in leicester! Im not actually gay but revo's setting up a stall nearby. So if you're around tomorrow, look out for the communists at a cheap wooden table covered in red cloth handing out leaflets

Well, i personally dont like gays. but let the faggots have their fun this week

We don't like you either, so it's still good.

I'm going to one in Edinburgh tomorrow.

If only there was one where I am now...

There just aren't enough people (not homosexual people, just people) here.

If I home in DC, I'd be there.

I am gay myself, but I am neither ashamed nor proud of it. It is only one of my characteristics. I have the same view for race. However, if people wish to celebrate this then I will not stop them. I do feel rather embarrassed because I wasn't aware of it.

...was it only a coincidence that I've seen "Bewitched" on TV and everywhere? ;)

...was it only a coincidence that I've seen "Bewitched" on TV and everywhere? ;)
The gods have spoken.

I am gay myself, but I am neither ashamed nor proud of it. It is only one of my characteristics. I have the same view for race. However, if people wish to celebrate this then I will not stop them. I do feel rather embarrassed because I wasn't aware of it.
I can only say, good for you, and I agree. Don't feel bad you weren't aware of Gay Pride Week, I wasn't until, like, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, somethin' like that.

...was it only a coincidence that I've seen "Bewitched" on TV and everywhere?
Probably has to do with the movie coming out.

Or perhaps not...;)

...was it only a coincidence that I've seen "Bewitched" on TV and everywhere? ;)
Actually, no. According to "Inside TV-Land: Tickled Pink", gays and lesbians like supernatural shows/movies because they can relate to the main characters. (They are mostly just like everyone else, except for one minor difference.) If that is the case, I must be, like ultra-uber-super-de-duper lesbian. :p

Actually, no. According to "Inside TV-Land: Tickled Pink", gays and lesbians like supernatural shows/movies because they can relate to the main characters. (They are mostly just like everyone else, except for one minor difference.) If that is the case, I must be, like ultra-uber-super-de-duper lesbian. :p
Heh. Me too (except that I'm male).

Actually, no. According to "Inside TV-Land: Tickled Pink", gays and lesbians like supernatural shows/movies because they can relate to the main characters. (They are mostly just like everyone else, except for one minor difference.) If that is the case, I must be, like ultra-uber-super-de-duper lesbian. :p

I like women... I'm a lesbian!!

(Sorry, that's an old one... yes, I'm male.)

Well, i personally dont like gays. but let the faggots have their fun this week
[sarcasm] Yeah, I guess we may as well let them do what they want. I have nothing against faggots and queers myself, you know, if they want to do disgusting things to each other that's their own business. If they want to threaten the future of the human race by refusing to procreate then it's no snot out of my nose.

Its Stupid and a waste of time i really cant wait till Leporetic Cancer Suffers of Mixed Ethnicity week. :rolleyes:

Why do queers need a "pride" week? Why do black people need a month? Why does the rest of the country have to pat these people on the back and say "Hey, we really do care about you."

Are you that insecure? Or do you consider it a way to get attention from the rest of us?

Its Stupid and a waste of time i really cant wait till Leporetic Cancer Suffers of Mixed Ethnicity week. :rolleyes:

It must be so awful being forced to participate and to watch. Imagine if you could just not do that?

...was it only a coincidence that I've seen "Bewitched" on TV and everywhere? ;)
No, that's because the stupid movie came out.

No, that's because the stupid movie came out.
And why did it come out this week? What? Like I could resist! :D

Why do queers need a "pride" week?

Because straights get to have straight pride weeks all the time.'

Why do black people need a month?

Because whites in the US get the rest of the months.

Why does the rest of the country have to pat these people on the back and say "Hey, we really do care about you."

If you think that's what pride, or black history month, are about, then you've really misunderstood.

Are you that insecure? Or do you consider it a way to get attention from the rest of us?

No minority has ever been granted rights without fighting for them. Gay Pride is about being proud of not taking crap from the rest of you anymore.

And why did it come out this week? What? Like I could resist! :D

Ah... someone gets it. ;)

Why do queers need a "pride" week? Why do black people need a month? Why does the rest of the country have to pat these people on the back and say "Hey, we really do care about you."

Are you that insecure? Or do you consider it a way to get attention from the rest of us?
In a strange and obscure way, I see your point. But I must also point out that these minority (or just generally discriminated against) groups have been prejudiced against for a very long time. 50 years ago gay pride week or black history month would be absolutely unthinkable. There were no freedom of speech or expression. These groups are merely expressing their democratic rights.
I must say though that like any large gathering of groups it can get out of hand...Croud mentality and all. Sometimes demonstrations such as these go a little overbord.

(1) Meh
(2) I've wondered why there isn't one already...that I know about anyways
(3) If I cant get off from school or work from it, than no
(4) No
(5) Honestly I didn't even know it was this week, all I know is that within a few weeks the Mormons will be coming to town to take over the place. It'll be a not so blissful time where I need to defend my home from both Mormons and Baptists. Speaking of which I need to stockpile some extra munitions in case things get heated between them again.

Why do queers need a "pride" week? Why do black people need a month? Why does the rest of the country have to pat these people on the back and say "Hey, we really do care about you."

Are you that insecure? Or do you consider it a way to get attention from the rest of us?
Its Stupid and a waste of time i really cant wait till Leporetic Cancer Suffers of Mixed Ethnicity week.
Carbon Nation and Harlesburg, this thread was not meant to be a hate thread. If you can't state your opinion calmly, rationally, and kindly, please go away.

Where the hell is the Affluent Caucasian Entrepreneur pride week? Eh bitches?

1. Sure.
2. Every week is straight pride week.

...It's true. It's like on mother's day when you ask Hey Mom why isn't there a kid's day? and they say Honey, every day is kids' day.

Our Pride Parade here in Toronto is this weekend, and our baseball team is apparently the only one that does anything to commend the week, which I found odd since baseball is itself a pretty gay sport.

(1) Of course. I just don't really care for 'gay pride', as a concept... but overally, a positive thing.
(2) It's not needed :<
(3) Yes. It's nice to see something about it that isn't quite so commercialized, but educational and will hopefully promote tolerance and eventual acceptance.
(4) A couple... mostly I was playing RO >_>
(5) Of course. Don't see why they wouldn't o_o

Dammit debates are no fun if everyone agrees. I shall be the opposition.

NO!! THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!!! erm.... RAH!! THEY ARE NOT NORMAL!!! ahem im done

Hell, they can have their parade and own lives for all i care. As long as they dont start expecting me to change my life to accomodate them, i wont stop them. :p

Come on guys... U all know this is all bs, normal gay ppl and normal black ppl, and all normal ppl on those minorities u guys are talking about, dont participate on these manifs or actually think its a good thing. They just live their lives as they see fit and noone has anything to do with it, cos we are all equals and we are all free to do as we please as long as we respect other ppl. Honestly, i find these 'gay pride' stuff a bit offensive, not cos they are gay, but cos of the way they act (again, most of them, the ones we usually see on tv). Theres no need for this, society is everyday more tolerant and what u guys get with this is shocking ppl and making them dislike u. Then all over extreme right groups pop up and ppl wonder why... Just live ur lives as the rest of us do and dont be proud to be gay, cos its nothing special, u guys try to convice us of that, so stfu.

1. Sure.
2. What just about everyone else has said...they get the other 51 weeks.
3. Sure, why not.
4. Nope, haven't heard of any
5. Of course


I never even knew this was Gay Pride week, I haven't heard anything about til now. Back in April I did this National Day of Silence thing at my school, which was in support of gay/lesbian/bisexual teens, I would have thought DoS would have been the same week as Gay Pride week, but I guess not...

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?

YES. its great fun.

(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?

fine with me, but someone has to organize it and spend money on it etc. so i think only anti-gay assholes would ever actually bother doing it.

(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?

YES. its fun to watch people be that provocative. doesnt happen much in small town new mexico so i can see it from afar.

(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?

didnt see any but i would have if i had noticed they were on

(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

yes yes i do and i think i would have alot of fun if i ever bothered to. its not like you have to show your gay membership card eh?

Why was I not informed that this week was Gay Pride week? Oh yeah, because I live in a horrible homophobic place where any mention of the subject leads to spitting and twitching on the behalf of the half million christians in town. Ok, so there arn't half a million of 'em, but a good 90 some odd percent of the people in town are homophobic idiots. And alas, I have to live with four of them...

Oh well, it's still Friday, and that aslo leaves Saturday still to celebrate!

*Puts on one of those foam hand thingys people wear at football games that says "Gay Pride" and waves it around.*

Just live ur lives as the rest of us do and dont be proud to be gay, cos its nothing special, u guys try to convice us of that, so stfu.

Fair point, we do have tolerance kinda forced down our throats, "you must tolerate this group" is sometimes heard along with "you must not treat them different because we are all the same". That kinda rattles me a bit too, but considering the previous persecutions against homosexuals, i think they deserve a bit of freedom to show the world they are still around.

Why was I not informed that this week was Gay Pride week? Oh yeah, because I live in a horrible homophobic place where any mention of the subject leads to spitting and twitching on the behalf of the half million christians in town. Ok, so there arn't half a million of 'em, but a good 90 some odd percent of the people in town are homophobic idiots. And alas, I have to live with four of them...

Oh well, it's still Friday, and that aslo leaves Saturday still to celebrate!

*Puts on one of those foam hand thingys people wear at football games that says "Gay Pride" and waves it around.*
I'm from B'ham, Alabama, and I found out by being a total couch potato and LUVING channels which apparently happen to get a lot of GLBT support.

I'm from B'ham, Alabama, and I found out by being a total couch potato and LUVING channels which apparently happen to get a lot of GLBT support.


I'm more of a computer potato. Plus I'm not allowed to watch any type of liberal channel. I.E. Comedy Central, MTV, VH1, etc.

I hate living in a conservative family and being the only liberal. My ENTIRE family is Republican, it sucks. My uncle once called me a communist!

Well, Gay Pride Week is almost over. So far I have seen tribute on VH1, TV-Land, and Comedy Central, all TV channels I enjoy. Some questions to all:

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

Here are my answers:
(1) I don't care either way, but I have to say, I find the concept of "gay pride" kind of ridiculous, like "patriotism" or something like that.
(2) Once again, I don't care.
(3) Yes, of course. I hope it becomes more mainstream as our culture develops a more evolved view on the GLBT community.
(4) Yes, many.
(5) Yes. I respect Gay Pride Week in the same way I respect Black History Month-because even though the culture, to some people's views, doesn't apply to me, I feel it has become enough a part of mainstream culture for me to show my support.

1. I don't care.
2. I think for fairness sake yeah, there should be a straight pride parade.
3. Not really sure
4. Nah, don't really care for it. I perfer cartoons or shows with no message pushed on me.
5. Yes one could.

I'm more of a computer potato. Plus I'm not allowed to watch any type of liberal channel. I.E. Comedy Central, MTV, VH1, etc.

I hate living in a conservative family and being the only liberal. My ENTIRE family is Republican, it sucks. My uncle once called me a communist!
Well, my immediate family ranges from extremely liberal to somewhat conservative. The majority of my friends and other family members are EXTREMELY conservative.

Wait, how can they keep you from watching whatever channel you want? That's gotta be at least a 9 on the Suck Scale, 1 being nearly suckless and 10 being the suckiest suck in the suckiverse.

Well, my immediate family ranges from extremely liberal to somewhat conservative. The majority of my friends and other family members are EXTREMELY conservative.

Wait, how can they keep you from watching whatever channel you want? That's gotta be at least a 9 on the Suck Scale, 1 being nearly suckless and 10 being the suckiest suck in the suckiverse.


Well, they can't really, since I have a TV in my room, but ya never know when someone might burst in. And when I try to watch those particular channels in the living room, my dad and mom both start yacking at me about how I'm not supposed to be watching that (whatever "wrong" channel it might be).

I once tried watching a show on MTV that had two guys going out on a date. My dad walked into the living room and almost spat out, "Why are you watching that?!"

I said," Cos it looks interesting." He's like," But there are two guys going on a date! That's wrong!" I just gave him a digusted look and went to watch it in my room.

My parents make me really mad sometimes, but that's probably just a consequince of being a teenager.

Well, they can't really, since I have a TV in my room, but ya never know when someone might burst in. And when I try to watch those particular channels in the living room, my dad and mom both start yacking at me about how I'm not supposed to be watching that (whatever "wrong" channel it might be).

I once tried watching a show on MTV that had two guys going out on a date. My dad walked into the living room and almost spat out, "Why are you watching that?!"

I said," Cos it looks interesting." He's like," But there are two guys going on a date! That's wrong!" I just gave him a digusted look and went to watch it in my room.

My parents make me really mad sometimes, but probably just a consequince of being a teenager.
Maybe, or maybe it's a responsibility of being a teenager.

Maybe, or maybe it's a responsibility of being a teenager.

I never thought of that, but what do you mean exactly? Cos ya know, my parents arn't about to sit down and listen to me preach to them the errors of their ways.

Just what exactly are they so proud about? I cant really think of any great accomplishment either from the gay "community" as a whole or from any individual gay person. Im sure that at least one gay person has probably accomplished something somewhere at some time, but it obviously wasnt world shaking (or I would have known about it) and one or two scattered succeses dont really justify watching an entire PBS special or spending millions of $$$'s.

So the entire thing is just a big farce in which the gay's try and act like they are normal. They hope to gain sympathy and make people think that they have been "the most persecuted people in history" (forget who said that, hillary clinton maybe?) As for a strait pride week, no thanks. I would prefer not spend an entire week feeling sorry for myself and trying to convince others to do so as many minorities do, I have better things to do.

Just what exactly are they so proud about? I cant really think of any great accomplishment either from the gay "community" as a whole or from any individual gay person. Im sure that at least one gay person has probably accomplished something somewhere at some time, but it obviously wasnt world shaking (or I would have known about it) and one or two scattered succeses dont really justify watching an entire PBS special or spending millions of $$$'s.

So the entire thing is just a big farce in which the gay's try and act like they are normal. They hope to gain sympathy and make people think that they have been "the most persecuted people in history" (forget who said that, hillary clinton maybe?) As for a strait pride week, no thanks. I would prefer not spend an entire week feeling sorry for myself and trying to convince others to do so as many minorities do, I have better things to do.


Why would you go and waste your first post like that? Not a very good way to say hello, I'd say.

They're not trying to gain sympathy, it's more of a gathering type of thing. Kinda like a community barbeque. Or at least I thought that's what it was. Could be wrong though.

I never thought of that, but what do you mean exactly? Cos ya know, my parents arn't about to sit down and listen to me preach to them the errors of their ways.
Well, it is said that children are the future. Most people would consider teenager children. Isn't it everyone's responsibility to try to make a better future? So, if teenager are the future than it is their responsibility to better themselves if they are not already better than the previous generation. What is "better"? In my opinion, more tolerance, love, and compassion, and much, much less hate. So, it's your responsibility to rebel against your parents and embrace homosexuality. :D

Well, it is said that children are the future. Most people would consider teenager children. Isn't it everyone's responsibility to try to make a better future? So, if teenager are the future than it is their responsibility to better themselves if they are not already better than the previous generation. What is "better"? In my opinion, more tolerance, love, and compassion, and much, much less hate. So, it's your responsibility to rebel against your parents and embrace homosexuality. :D

Well, I've deffinatly already done that. They know full well my views, and probably resent me for it. If anybody at their church knew what I thought, they'd probably disown me. Or just think I was the embodyment of evil itself.

And most of my friends think the way I do, and I'm glad of that. What's the point of having friends that are bigots? None whatsoever.

I think that after a few more generations there'll be (finally) an open-minded generation that will embrace homosexuality, and from then on all others will do the same. I'd predict that'll happen around, oh... 2100 maybe?

Does anyone else find it amusing that since there were more than 2 homsexual threads on the front page of NS that the "Babe Pics" thread had to be resurfaced?


;)

Does anyone else find it amusing that since there were more than 2 homsexual threads on the front page of NS that the "Babe Pics" thread had to be resurfaced?


;)


Oh god no!!!!!!!!!! Pervs!

Just what exactly are they so proud about? I cant really think of any great accomplishment either from the gay "community" as a whole or from any individual gay person. Im sure that at least one gay person has probably accomplished something somewhere at some time, but it obviously wasnt world shaking (or I would have known about it) and one or two scattered succeses dont really justify watching an entire PBS special or spending millions of $$$'s.

Alexander the Great, Caesar, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Oscar Wilde, Alan Turing etc, all ring a bell? They were all either gay or bi.

So the entire thing is just a big farce in which the gay's try and act like they are normal. They hope to gain sympathy and make people think that they have been "the most persecuted people in history" (forget who said that, hillary clinton maybe?) As for a strait pride week, no thanks. I would prefer not spend an entire week feeling sorry for myself and trying to convince others to do so as many minorities do, I have better things to do.

Yeah, coming from someone posting on Internet forums, that whole "I have better things to do schtick" always makes me chuckle.

Well, I've deffinatly already done that. They know full well my views, and probably resent me for it. If anybody at their church knew what I thought, they'd probably disown me. Or just think I was the embodyment of evil itself.

And most of my friends think the way I do, and I'm glad of that. What's the point of having friends that are bigots? None whatsoever.

I think that after a few more generations there'll be (finally) an open-minded generation that will embrace homosexuality, and from then on all others will do the same. I'd predict that'll happen around, oh... 2100 maybe?
We can only hope. (And encourage future generations to be even more loving, tolerant, and compassionate than even we are! :p )

Alexander the Great, Caesar, Socrates, Leonardo da Vinci, Michaelangelo, Alan Turing etc, all ring a bell? They were all either gay or bi.



Yeah, coming from someone posting on Internet forums, that whole "I have better things to do schtick" always makes me chuckle.
Really? Dude, which history book is that printed in? Other than that, I have to say, awesome, dude! :cool:

We can only hope. (And encourage future generations to be even more loving, tolerant, and compassionate than even we are! :p )


I saw the thread on the top 10 reasons on why gay marriage was wrong. The link on the first post showed the top 10 reasons in a sarcastic way. It was funny. I was thinking of printing it off and posting a big blow-up poster of it in different places along the hallways in my school next year.

And since I'll be a sophomore, I wont have to worry about being beat up. Since I'll be one of the biggest guys there.

I can just see teachers walking by the posters and shaking their heads. And of course there'd be wispering in class, that would probably make me laugh, gossip is so funny when you know the truth!

Hey, I might even start a riot...

I saw the thread on the top 10 reasons on why gay marriage was wrong. The link on the first post showed the top 10 reasons in a sarcastic way. It was funny. I was thinking of printing it off and posting a big blow-up poster of it in different places along the hallways in my school next year.

And since I'll be a sophomore, I wont have to worry about being beat up. Since I'll be one of the biggest guys there.

I can just see teachers walking by the posters and shaking their heads. And of course there'd be wispering in class, that would probably make me laugh, gossip is so funny when you know the truth!

Hey, I might even start a riot...
Awesome, dude! I have to say I haven't ever intentionally stood up against hate and discrimination because I do have to keep my best interests, like, say, self-preservation, in mind. If you have the guts to go for it, by all means, do so! Me, I'd be a freshman in the local public high school next year if I weren't homeschooled.

Awesome, dude! I have to say I haven't ever intentionally stood up against hate and discrimination because I do have to keep my best interests, like, say, self-preservation, in mind. If you have the guts to go for it, by all means, do so! Me, I'd be a freshman in the local public high school next year if I weren't homeschooled.


Ya know, there's this thing here called the Gay/Straight Alliance. I think it's a group of kids and adults that get togethor and fight discrimination and stuff. I've heard of it, but never checked it out. My parents probably wouldn't allow it anyway; they'd probably then force me into a very nervewracking conversation, and then maybe send me to therapy.

Anyway, maybe if I got some back-up this could really work out. But then we'd have to get around the Mid-High's principal, and he's twice my size, in girth that is. And he scares me. Friendly, but scary. And he's probably in that ninety some odd percent of homophobes who live here.

*sigh* I hate living in Oklahoma...

Really? Dude, which history book is that printed in? Other than that, I have to say, awesome, dude! :cool:

History books - as in school books for kids/adolescents - don't mention such things, but read any good biography on those people and you'll see. Alexander is, well, quite known as being bi. Caesar had male lovers. Socrates was like all Greeks at the time, although a bit more gay than the "bisexuality" of his days. Leonardo da Vinci had a young, male lover to whom he left most of his money (it's all very well documented, and he even stood on trial for homosexuality), and Michaelangelo, basically celibate, was very tormented by his sexuality, which is apparent in the letters he wrote to a man he was in love with. Alan Turing, basically the founder of computer science, committed suicide two years after he was arrested for being gay.

There are tons more prominent people who were what we would call gay or bi (or at least engaged in gay or bi activities) throughout history: Tchaikovsky, Handel, Gertrude Stein, Sappho... there are even indications that Florence Nightingale and Abraham Lincoln (shared a bed with a man for several years, even in the White House, and his sexuality was quite the topic of his time) were gay/bi. It's really surprising how much has been hushed down by historians and society of yore to "conserve" the reputation of these people.

History books - as in school books for kids/adolescents - don't mention such things, but read any good biography on those people and you'll see. Alexander is, well, quite known as being bi. Caesar had male lovers. Socrates was like all Greeks at the time, although a bit more gay than the "bisexuality" of his days. Leonardo da Vinci had a young, male lover to whom he left most of his money (it's all very well documented, and he even stood on trial for homosexuality), and Michaelangelo, basically celibate, was very tormented by his sexuality, which is apparent in the letters he wrote to a man he was in love with.

There are tons more prominent people who were what we would call gay or bi (or at least engaged in gay or bi activities) throughout history: Tchaikovsky, Handel, Gertrude Stein, Sappho... there are even indications that Florence Nightingale and Abraham Lincoln (shared a bed with a man for several years, even in the White House, and his sexuality was quite the topic of his time) were gay/bi. It's really surprising how much has been hushed down by historians and society of yore to "conserve" the reputation of these people.

That just makes me mad. Those are the kinda things we need to learn in history class, about the lifestyles of people we consider great.

I'm listen to a musical right now, but beleive it or not I'm not gay. :D

Oh and why would I care about gay pride week. In my pinoin it is the MOST idiotic thing they could do to become "mainstream" Why you ask well that just puts up a further different barrier. Although I do hate it when some 300 lb+ dude is in a leotard.

I'm listen to a musical right now, but beleive it or not I'm not gay. :D



Um... ok.

Well, they can't really, since I have a TV in my room, but ya never know when someone might burst in. And when I try to watch those particular channels in the living room, my dad and mom both start yacking at me about how I'm not supposed to be watching that (whatever "wrong" channel it might be).

I once tried watching a show on MTV that had two guys going out on a date. My dad walked into the living room and almost spat out, "Why are you watching that?!"

I said," Cos it looks interesting." He's like," But there are two guys going on a date! That's wrong!" I just gave him a digusted look and went to watch it in my room.

My parents make me really mad sometimes, but that's probably just a consequince of being a teenager.
or maybe your parents really suck. i know thats a bit harsh but they are a tad strict in what they ban you from seeing

unless youre really 9...

I'm listen to a musical right now, but beleive it or not I'm not gay. :D
as long as its not "hello dolly" or "funny girl" ill believe you.

Before I used to question the reasons for pride as well. I used to be one of those who said "Why is there white heterosexual pride? Aren't we all equal?"

And that would be a valid point. If we were equal. If there was no discrimination or ignorance or persecution. If no one were oppressed and hated, then we wouldn't need pride. We could live our lives merrily and accept one another and not draw attention to anything.

But unfortunately, we do not live in such a great world. I just finished writing a research paper on how AIDS affected the gay pride movement and my results were sobering. The amount of laws the government tried to pass to oppress the predominately gay AIDS group is frightening. In the 1980s, the conservative right was trying to silence the gay community and basically eliminate them from politics and society.

So displays as the parade aren't just for fun. They serve a purpose; they make sure people are aware of issues and things affecting the community. Imagine how many people would simply ignore problems if they did not dress up in bright costumes and dance around in front of them.

(1) Why not?
(2) Straight is the majority... we don't need a pride celebration.
(3) If the TV stations want to make it spectacle, that's fine. I don't really care.
(4) No, but I watched the parade in person.
(5) Of course.

or maybe your parents really suck. i know thats a bit harsh but they are a tad strict in what they ban you from seeing

unless youre really 9...


Do you really think a nine year old would care so much about a topic like this?

And yes, they are more than a tad strict. But up until several years ago, I thought everybody's parents were like that. Boy was I wrong.

History books - as in school books for kids/adolescents - don't mention such things, but read any good biography on those people and you'll see. Alexander is, well, quite known as being bi. Caesar had male lovers. Socrates was like all Greeks at the time, although a bit more gay than the "bisexuality" of his days. Leonardo da Vinci had a young, male lover to whom he left most of his money (it's all very well documented, and he even stood on trial for homosexuality), and Michaelangelo, basically celibate, was very tormented by his sexuality, which is apparent in the letters he wrote to a man he was in love with. Alan Turing, basically the founder of computer science, committed suicide two years after he was arrested for being gay.

There are tons more prominent people who were what we would call gay or bi (or at least engaged in gay or bi activities) throughout history: Tchaikovsky, Handel, Gertrude Stein, Sappho... there are even indications that Florence Nightingale and Abraham Lincoln (shared a bed with a man for several years, even in the White House, and his sexuality was quite the topic of his time) were gay/bi. It's really surprising how much has been hushed down by historians and society of yore to "conserve" the reputation of these people.
That is very, very, angering. It also supports a point I once read in a book about women throughout history; for years, priests and the religious right have decided and controlled what was written of events and what was acceptable "history". Priests basically decided to make whatever they wanted to have had happen be what was recorded as happening at whatever time they lived.

Did you know that in my area, a law has been passed to forbid gay and lesbian curriculum of any sort from being taught in the public schooling system? I'm so glad I homeschool and my parents are fairly liberal, open-minded people.

Do you really think a nine year old would care so much about a topic like this?

And yes, they are more than a tad strict. But up until several years ago, I thought everybody's parents were like that. Boy was I wrong.
Actually, I can't remember a time when I didn't care when someone was being hated and discriminated against. I started using the computer at 8 years old. I didn't start political debates 'till I was about 11, but still, I could see a 9 year old taking an interest in the topic at hand.

answers are boldedWell, Gay Pride Week is almost over. So far I have seen tribute on VH1, TV-Land, and Comedy Central, all TV channels I enjoy. Some questions to all:

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week? why not. be proud of who and what you are. and we need more parades anyway.
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week? why not. for fairness there should be a ... what... straight week? non gay? gotta think of a name tho...
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television? not Should. if television wants to cover it, then who's to say no. as long as everyone else also can get coverage.
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV? Nope... my T.v. is a permament Gamestation monitor. (PS2, GameCube, Genesis) and I mostly watch DVD's.
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay? I know people who do, but I for one Choose not to.

I'm kinda grateful they haven't tried bombing anywhere like most other groups do eventually ;) . I wasn't even aware Pride week was on… is this only in America? 'Cos I haven't heard anything about it in Britain.

Oh and for the record, I take the Catholic viewpoint on homosexuality.

That said, I'm not a homophobic.

Neither am I a "I'm not homophobic but…".

Actually, I can't remember a time when I didn't care when someone was being hated and discriminated against. I started using the computer at 8 years old. I didn't start political debates 'till I was about 11, but still, I could see a 9 year old taking an interest in the topic at hand.


How old did you say you were again?

(1) Sure. It's a lot of fun. I'm not exactly 'proud' that I'm gay, it's just how I am. Don't give it much thought. But 'Pride' is great fun!
(2) Heh. Every week is Straight Pride week.
(3) If they want to, sure. If they don't, whatever. "I care nay a blot."
(4) Didn't notice any at all here in Australia. Usually Mardi Gras is televised, which is fun to watch.
(5) Sure, it's fun. The parades are great shows. Entertaining ^.^

Gays already have equal rights. Why do they have to be "aprecciated". No straight aprecciation week? Native American history month?

Gays already have equal rights. Why do they have to be "aprecciated". No straight aprecciation week? Native American history month?


Native American History month? Now that's an idea. Of course around here we wouldn't need it. Ya see it everywhere.

And as posted before, the straights get the rest of the 51 weeks.

Gays already have equal rights. Why do they have to be "aprecciated". No straight aprecciation week? Native American history month?nope, no straight Appreciation week. for if a Gay or a Black has an Appriciation week/month then it's "Raising Awareness"
but if a Straight Hetero caucasian does it, then it's "Being Oppressive" or "Racists."

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?
(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?
(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?
(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?
(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

1) If they want to have one...
2) It would be funny. Just put the superbowl on it -let's say on Friday-
3) If the TV networks want to do it, all right!!!
4) No. Mainly 'cause I live in South America
5) It's your life...

nope, no straight Appreciation week. for if a Gay or a Black has an Appriciation week/month then it's "Raising Awareness"
but if a Straight Hetero caucasian does it, then it's "Being Oppressive" or "Racists."
Exactly. But im half Cherokee. Why can't there at least be Native American History month. Is 200 years of slavery suddenly worse than 600 years of genocide?

(1) Do you think there should be a Gay Pride Week?

- Does it matter what I think? There is one. What I think is immaterial.

(2) How about a Straight Pride Week?

- Why, did straights ever have to overcome overwhelming obstacles to secure tacit acceptance from homosexuals?

(3) Do you think Gay Pride Week should be celebrated in mainstream television?

- If it sells advertising spots, mainstream television will celebrate whatever observance, holiday or festival that has ever existed.

(4) Did you watch any shows which were tributes to Gay Pride Week on TV?

- No, I only watch the news and Dr. Who. And in about a week or so, I'll be back to just watching the news. I'll have to wait for more Dr. Who episodes to be filmed.

(5) Do you think you can celebrate/appreciate/respect Gay Pride Week even if you aren't gay?

- Yes, I do think anyone can have a good time. They just have to want to have a good time.

Exactly. But im half Cherokee. Why can't there at least be Native American History month. Is 200 years of slavery suddenly worse than 600 years of genocide?That was about why there is no White pride or Hetero Pride type marches.

as for Native Americans?

why not orgainize something. get it large enough and it will be recognized nationally.

Just remember, too many pride marches, and they loose their punch.