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I personally think it looks like crap.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/trailer/
(First trailer)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/
(second trailer)

It looks quite disturbing.

I personally think it looks like crap.
Seconded. Depp looks like a scolded schoolgirl.

...That's DEPP?

Wow. WTF.

*is wowed and wtf'd*

I haven't seen any adverts or anything pertaining to it except maybe one publicity shot on a magazine cover because i live above an offy. I'm still willing to judge it, and I intend never to see it.

Did you mean, "Disney Vault"?

Tho' I find the image of movie producers electrocuting actors who don't perform up to snuff to be a highly amusing mental picture.

I personally didn't like the first one, and doubt i will like the second one much, but Tim Burton is one of my favorite directors. So i will probably end up seeing it.

Did you mean, "Disney Vault"?


Yes, sorry, I know how to spell I was in a rush.

It looks like junk, but I'll probably be dragged to it by my sister becuase she loves Johnny Depp.

May I be the first to cry "Sacrilege!"

I personally didn't like the first one, and doubt i will like the second one much, but Tim Burton is one of my favorite directors. So i will probably end up seeing it.

You didnt like the first one? Thats a classic!

It's not released yet and as such I have not seen it, so I cannot have an opinion on it. I'm one of those 'crazy' people that judges a movie by actually watching it...call me crazy...

Having said that, I have disliked more Burton films than I've liked. This is the kind I generally don't like. We'll see...

Doesn't look to be as utterly horrible and raping as the Bewitched or Herbie sequels (everyone who is no longer alive that acted in that move is rollnig over in their graves), it even has the squirrels, though I admit the geese were good stuff

Ihatevacations']Doesn't look to be as utterly horrible and raping as the Bewitched or Herbie sequels (everyone who is no longer alive that acted in that move is rollnig over in their graves), it even has the squirrels, though I admit the geese were good stuff

I agree, Herbie and Bewitched look pretty bad.

This isn't a remake of the original. The original movie was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. It was a very loose interpretation of the novel Charlie and the Chocolate factory. This movie is based more closely on the book, and is not a musical. I expect the two to be very different, and think this will be very good. Burton is an amazing director (and those of you who have read the book must agree that he is the perfect man to bring this story to life) and Depp is a great actor (No one will ever top Gene Wilders performance of Wonka, but I think Depp will make the character his own and will be equally powerful)

I agree, Herbie and Bewitched look pretty bad.
Those two movies look like crap too, but guess what? I'm going to end up seeing them to probably because my sister has almost no taste in movies.

The second trailer for the movie was MUCH better, but some of the acting still looked crappy.

This isn't a remake of the original. The original movie was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. It was a very loose interpretation of the novel Charlie and the Chocolate factory. This movie is based more closely on the book, and is not a musical. I expect the two to be very different, and think this will be very good. Burton is an amazing director (and those of you who have read the book must agree that he is the perfect man to bring this story to life) and Depp is a great actor (No one will ever top Gene Wilders performance of Wonka, but I think Depp will make the character his own and will be equally powerful)
Don't give me that bullshit. I read the book and I saw the movie. Differences in movie: shortened oompa loompa songs, replaced squirrels with geese (very well mgiht I add), and made it a soft musical (also incorporated very well). it was not a "loose interpretation", if it was, this one will be a "loose interpretation" as well. It won't be the same without all the stupid singing

The Oompa Loompas are played by that guy from Big Fish - the circus ringmaster (the werewolf)'s assistant.

The Oompa Loompas are played by that guy from Big Fish - the circus ringmaster (the werewolf)'s assistant.
I barely got a look at the Oompa loompas from teh commercials, from teh quick glance I saw they looked like the guy from jackass

Considering the guy who wrote the book didn't like the original movie, I'm gonna have to go with a "we'll wait and see" approach. In short, it will be a movie.

Just a movie.

I agree, Herbie and Bewitched look pretty bad.
Here's the thing on Bewitched-

Admitidly, there was no need to make it a movie. Nothing to be gained except a pocket load of money if lightning strikes. Theoriticly (can't spell today, but don't care) it carries past a lot of 'overcome' because it's a 'product' you know with people who you'd want to see. In theory...

But it approaches what would be some cookie cutter nonsense with it's structure-it is a Bewitched movie that acknowledges the existance of Bewitched the series, which over comes (in a different use of that term) a narrative hole in other adaptations of tv shows that have to posit (not even close on that one, huh?) a world without that iconic show (for instance, The Brady Bunch Movie). This intrigues me a bit. Enough to watch the movie? Maybe not. But still, notice should me made of the efforts of the filmmakers to not simply photocopy this onto the screen.

Considering the guy who wrote the book didn't like the original movie, I'm gonna have to go with a "we'll wait and see" approach. In short, it will be a movie.

Just a movie.
Guess he didn't like singing, or geese

Ihatevacations']Guess he didn't like singing, or geese


*shudder* ... nobody should like geese ...

I personally think it looks like crap.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/trailer/
(First trailer)
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/charliechocolatefactory/
(second trailer)

It looks quite disturbing.
Wooooah, the first one scared the chocolate out of me and the second one makes me want to watch Star Wars.

And on the Herbie thing, to finish out my sidetrack...

When have those movies ever been the pillar of quality? At this point they've got better actors, better effects, and a story equally as ridiculous as the other ones (remember Herbie racing against Lancia Stratos'? Not any less ridiculous. It seems like a Herbie movie to me, what where you expecting?

Back to topic...

This reminds me, I MUST get that movie poster, any suggestions where I can get it, relatively cheap, free is best

Ihatevacations']I barely got a look at the Oompa loompas from teh commercials, from teh quick glance I saw they looked like the guy from jackass

"Wee Man"? You're right!

/ashamed to know the names of the people in Jackass, when DirtySanchez is so much "better".

Ihatevacations']I barely got a look at the Oompa loompas from teh commercials, from teh quick glance I saw they looked like the guy from jackass
Weeman is white. This guy is Indian.

They are fucking orange and in weird suits, how am I supposed to tell? Did you catch the commercial?

And I see this is going to go into teh backstory of the Oompa Loompas as well

This isn't a remake of the original. The original movie was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. It was a very loose interpretation of the novel Charlie and the Chocolate factory. This movie is based more closely on the book, and is not a musical. I expect the two to be very different, and think this will be very good. Burton is an amazing director (and those of you who have read the book must agree that he is the perfect man to bring this story to life) and Depp is a great actor (No one will ever top Gene Wilders performance of Wonka, but I think Depp will make the character his own and will be equally powerful)
Yes, yes, and more yes. Definitely agree:)

When I was a kid and saw the original movie for the first time (I guess I was about 7), Wilder's performance gave me nightmares. The image of him on the boat, saying that little poem the only way Wilder could, looking ever so maniacal ....

It's stil one of my favorite scenes to this day.

I can't wait to see what Depp brings to it. Depp is a very good actor with a terrific range in his craft. He's been able to play Edward Scissorhands, George Jung, and Hunter S. Thompson with astounding results. Even in his bad films (Cry Baby, Nightmare on Elmstreet) he's risen above the writing and the roll. Character acting aside, he's also a brilliant dramatic actor as shown in Benny and Joon and Dead Man, plus his unforgettable portrayal of Inspector Fred Abberline in From Hell.

He even shows us his lighter side in Pirates of the Carribean (two sequals currently in filming) and as Constable Ichabod Crane in Sleepy Hollow.

I think he'll do very well and I look forward to his performance. This man may very well be the Marlon Brando of my generation.

Depp looks mad creepy in this version. Stay away.

why Christopher Lee is acting in this i have no clue. he and depp are to good for this movie.

I love Johnny Depp. I think he is one of the most amazing and versitile actors. However, as I mentioned on another thread, I think remakes of movies are a perversion of the original, and ruin the ambiance of what was, not to mention the remakes usually suck. :p

Uh Do I care? Don't think it would be a movie I would watch in the cinema's anyway.

But I feel like having a Forrero-Roche Double mocha chocolate Gelati right now.

That won't amuse children, it'll scare them out of their fragile, young wits!

It is t3h sukc.

This isn't a remake of the original. The original movie was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. It was a very loose interpretation of the novel Charlie and the Chocolate factory. This movie is based more closely on the book, and is not a musical. I expect the two to be very different, and think this will be very good. Burton is an amazing director (and those of you who have read the book must agree that he is the perfect man to bring this story to life) and Depp is a great actor (No one will ever top Gene Wilders performance of Wonka, but I think Depp will make the character his own and will be equally powerful)
#1 I am a big fan of Dahl. IF there is any one producer/director who correctly understands Dahl's underlying creepyness it's Burton. From James & the Giant Peach to BeetleJuice, Edward Sissors Hands (not withstanding his other crap films) Burton has Dahlesque "wholesome/creepy" down. (Wilder was only appropriately creepy in the boat scene. His "Don't; Stop." scenes were OK, but not quite meanacing enough for me...

(This from a guy who has a Gene Wilder DVD collection... everything but "The Frisco Kid" - which ain't available on DVD yet.)

#2 Depp & Burton have mind-melded. I'm not a huge fan of Depp (aside from Benny & Joon) but when he & burton get together it has always worked.

#3 Trailers do not make a movie. I reserve final opinion until I see the whole thing... but because of the above I'm hopeful.

Here's the thing on Bewitched-

Admitidly, there was no need to make it a movie. Nothing to be gained except a pocket load of money if lightning strikes. Theoriticly (can't spell today, but don't care) it carries past a lot of 'overcome' because it's a 'product' you know with people who you'd want to see. In theory...

But it approaches what would be some cookie cutter nonsense with it's structure-it is a Bewitched movie that acknowledges the existance of Bewitched the series, which over comes (in a different use of that term) a narrative hole in other adaptations of tv shows that have to posit (not even close on that one, huh?) a world without that iconic show (for instance, The Brady Bunch Movie). This intrigues me a bit. Enough to watch the movie? Maybe not. But still, notice should me made of the efforts of the filmmakers to not simply photocopy this onto the screen.

One thing about bewitched is it has Will Ferrill, I hate that guy, he is only in two movies that I like, "A night at the Roxburry." And "Anchorman." I hate all of his other work. Hes only good when he acts stupid.

Poor Depp. Thats what 3 years of being a ranting liberal living in France will do to you. Hes almost as flushed out as Tom Cruise (sp? I dont really care for the guy.)

I liked the original movie, but it completely failed to capture the spirit of the book. It looks like this movie might do a better job of that but I'm not sure yet, and I definitely have to admit that the acting in the trailers doesn't bode well for the movie.

On the other hand, Tim Burton is a good director (not really my favorite, but undeniably skilled), and Johnny Depp is one of my favorite actors so I'm going to go see this for sure! I'm betting that the movie will be decent, but still won't capture the message of the original book.

Anyway, I didn't vote in the poll because all the options involve comparing this movie to the original, and i'm guessing they're going to be different enough in approach that they won't really be that comparable.

I liked Bewitched. It was pretty good. Nothing can compare to the original, but then the movie isn't the same story/plotline.

Will Farrell did was good, imo. I never really liked the guy, but he did pretty well. So did Nicole Kidman, Michael Caine, and Shirley Mclaine.

Does anyone know if they are going to remake "I Dream of Genie"?

I think this version is going to suck. Johnny Depp is a good actor, but he just makes the movie look creepy. I also think they are going to go overboard with the special effects.

Geez... a lot of you are going to hell :p

Dahl = Burton = Depp. Very few people can pull of the dark like this writer, director, and actor. This should be good... and nicely dark :)

Geez... a lot of you are going to hell :p

Dahl = Burton = Depp. Very few people can pull of the dark like this writer, director, and actor. This should be good... and nicely dark :)

I'm hoping!

I thought the original was too bright and cheerful.

I'm hoping!

I thought the original was too bright and cheerful.
THANKYOU!

I'm not the only twisted one here ;)

Ihatevacations']Don't give me that bullshit. I read the book and I saw the movie. Differences in movie: shortened oompa loompa songs, replaced squirrels with geese (very well mgiht I add), and made it a soft musical (also incorporated very well). it was not a "loose interpretation", if it was, this one will be a "loose interpretation" as well. It won't be the same without all the stupid singing


woah. easy there killer.

I would say that the original movie lost alot of the very dark undertones of the book. I enjoyed the original, but I think this one will be good in a different way. And most movies based on books are loose interpretations.

#1 I am a big fan of Dahl. IF there is any one producer/director who correctly understands Dahl's underlying creepyness it's Burton. From James & the Giant Peach to BeetleJuice, Edward Sissors Hands (not withstanding his other crap films) Burton has Dahlesque "wholesome/creepy" down. (Wilder was only appropriately creepy in the boat scene. His "Don't; Stop." scenes were OK, but not quite meanacing enough for me...

(This from a guy who has a Gene Wilder DVD collection... everything but "The Frisco Kid" - which ain't available on DVD yet.)

#2 Depp & Burton have mind-melded. I'm not a huge fan of Depp (aside from Benny & Joon) but when he & burton get together it has always worked.

#3 Trailers do not make a movie. I reserve final opinion until I see the whole thing... but because of the above I'm hopeful.

I think Wilder was great as wonka, although you are right, not creepy enough. It fit with the movie, but I would have prefered a bit darker (both for him and the movie overall)

I'm personally a big fan of both Depp and Burton, but my favorite roles of Depps are when directed by Burton. They share that same idea of being childlike on the surface, but having a very strong darkness that really drives everything.

I haven't actually seen more than 2 ads for the movie, so am pretty in the dark to how it looks so far, but I am excited about it.