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So, the IRA has today announced that it killed a 14 year old schoolgirl in 1973. They blaimed it on the British army, and then killed a soldier as "retaliation" for her killing.

Those glorious freedom fighters....

I wonder how many killings attributed to the British army were actually committed by the IRA?

Oh, and the leader of the IRA in Londonderry at the time? Martin McGuiness. Now one of the senior people in Sinn Fein, and the former Northern Ireland Education Minister. And someone people are told to respect/listen to.

Sickens me.

So, the IRA has today announced that it killed a 14 year old schoolgirl in 1973. They blaimed it on the British army, and then killed a soldier as "retaliation" for her killing.

Those glorious freedom fighters....

I wonder how many killings attributed to the British army were actually committed by the IRA?

Oh, and the leader of the IRA in Londonderry at the time? Martin McGuiness. Now one of the senior people in Sinn Fein, and the former Northern Ireland Education Minister. And someone people are told to respect/listen to.

Sickens me.

Youre right. Its disgusting. It's a shame that some American politicians see the IRA as freedom fighters and not the terrorists they are.

BTW just out of interest, are you Catholic or Protestant?

Youre right. Its disgusting. It's a shame that some American politicians see the IRA as freedom fighters and not the terrorists they are.

BTW just out of interest, are you Catholic or Protestant?

The religious question is completely inappropriate. What does it matter?

I agree about the comments re the USA support of the IRA though.

Youre right. Its disgusting. It's a shame that some American politicians see the IRA as freedom fighters and not the terrorists they are.

BTW just out of interest, are you Catholic or Protestant?
Nominally Protestant, but really atheist....although, that wouldnt help things..."are you a Protestant Athiest or a Catholic Athiest?" :rolleyes:

I couldnt give a fuck about the whole thing, it just annoys me that both paramilitary groupings seem to have entirely got away with the whole thing.

and Unionist or Nationalist would be more accurate ;)

Youre right. Its disgusting. It's a shame that some American politicians see the IRA as freedom fighters and not the terrorists they are.

BTW just out of interest, are you Catholic or Protestant?
They're getting better. This year I believe Teddy Kennedy didn't invite them to a dinner and instead invited one of their victims, if I recall.

Nominally Protestant, but really atheist....although, that wouldnt help things..."are you a Protestant Athiest or a Catholic Athiest?" :rolleyes:

I couldnt give a fuck about the whole thing, it just annoys me that both paramilitary groupings seem to have entirely got away with the whole thing.

and Unionist or Nationalist would be more accurate ;)

I'm sorry..... its just im Catholic and my family was Irish and I cant stand the IRA. Didnt mean to offend. Just interested.

I'm sorry..... its just im Catholic and my family was Irish and I cant stand the IRA. Didnt mean to offend. Just interested.
Thats alright, I know what you were asking :)

what caused them to 'fess up now? its not like its new. its not like its the only awful thing the IRA has done over the years.

what caused them to 'fess up now? its not like its new. its not like its the only awful thing the IRA has done over the years.
The family were bitching at them extra hard, or something. Who really knows what they're up to?

The family were bitching at them extra hard, or something. Who really knows what they're up to?

Some say they are winding down -and so this would be part of 'unfinished business'... but winding down or moving on: theres a diff- a glorified gang these days.

Lest they ever get into power on either side of the border, god help everyone on the island. :(

The truth is out! Terrorists are bad people! :rolleyes:

The truth is out! Terrorists are bad people! :rolleyes:
It was more for those who like to cling on to the notion that the IRA are freedom fighters, and not just terroritst scum

It was more for those who like to cling on to the notion that the IRA are freedom fighters, and not just terroritst scum

Ah, I see.

It was more for those who like to cling on to the notion that the IRA are freedom fighters, and not just terroritst scum

That was quite a shock to me, that some considered them freedom fighters.... when I first learned about them, it was during all the bombings... that some Americans supported them was really strange for me to learn.


(by the way, I sent you a tellygram, dunno if you seen, when you asked me to :D)

It was more for those who like to cling on to the notion that the IRA are freedom fighters, and not just terroritst scum

Indeed.

The IRA?

Show no mercy...

Groups like these, who prey on the innocent deserve none. The IRA, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, The Hammerskins and all forms of extremism need to be destroyed.

Yes, I see the irony in that I, myself, am being extreme.

So, the IRA has today announced that it killed a 14 year old schoolgirl in 1973. They blaimed it on the British army, and then killed a soldier as "retaliation" for her killing.

Those glorious freedom fighters....

I wonder how many killings attributed to the British army were actually committed by the IRA?

Oh, and the leader of the IRA in Londonderry at the time? Martin McGuiness. Now one of the senior people in Sinn Fein, and the former Northern Ireland Education Minister. And someone people are told to respect/listen to.

Sickens me.

Yeah, those British soldiers are such noble fighters.
In war civilians die, it is sad but that is the way of things.
How many civilians have the British killed? How many children have they killed?
Remember Bloody Sunday, it was a damn slaughter and the British did it...more then once.
This fight is hard to understand and it sickens me that children on both sides are suffering, growing up in that hate and loosing the happy years a child should have.

I do not support the I.R.A. but I do understand their fight and I do not support British military action there.


How many Iraqi children have been killed by U.S., British and other forces??
How many children were killed by forces in WWII by all sides??

You make it sound as if it is a competition...The IRA have killed so many children and so on.

It's a damn war and war is evil.

what caused them to 'fess up now? its not like its new. its not like its the only awful thing the IRA has done over the years.

I suspect they're trying to divert attention away from their failure to hand over all of the suspects in Robert McCartney's murder (I think that was his name anyway). CSW mentioned that some IRA victims were invited to America instead of an IRA member, that was the McCartney family.

North Island, while I feel that all killing is wrong I don't think you can really compare Britain to the IRA. We have recently spent millions on a huge enquiry to find those responsible for Bloody Sunday and those who unlawfully murdered IRA members. The IRA have done nothing except murder Mr McCartney and steal millions of pounds from a bank after taking the families of the managers hostage and threatening to kill them. Even after admitting to the 14 year olds murder they still haven't handed over the perpetrator.

While both Britain and the IRA have done wrong only Britain has attempted to do atone for the wrong and find those at fault.

So, the IRA has today announced that it killed a 14 year old schoolgirl in 1973. They blaimed it on the British army, and then killed a soldier as "retaliation" for her killing.

Those glorious freedom fighters....

I wonder how many killings attributed to the British army were actually committed by the IRA?

Oh, and the leader of the IRA in Londonderry at the time? Martin McGuiness. Now one of the senior people in Sinn Fein, and the former Northern Ireland Education Minister. And someone people are told to respect/listen to.

Sickens me.

It is disgusting and cannot be forgiven, but so is the behaviour of most unionists

No amount of killing done by the IRA will EVER equivicate to the wanton and lustful distruction by the British that has plagued Ireland for 800 years. The US does not see the IRA as freedom fighters and the only reason we haven't done more to quell the riteous and pertinent insurrection is because so many people here in the states with power are Irish. Currently there are two former IRA soldiers illegally imprisoned in America that were released having their charges rebuked by the Good Friday accord. Fuck anyone that feels pity for the Ulster Unionists. It's like feelings pity for the British colonial oppressors during our own revolution. And to make the analogy complete, we were founded by terrorists.

I don't think you can really compare Britain to the IRA. We have recently spent millions on a huge enquiry to find those responsible for Bloody Sunday and those who unlawfully murdered IRA members. The IRA have done nothing except murder Mr McCartney and steal millions of pounds from a bank after taking the families of the managers hostage and threatening to kill them. Even after admitting to the 14 year olds murder they still haven't handed over the perpetrator.

While both Britain and the IRA have done wrong only Britain has attempted to do atone for the wrong and find those at fault.

Well, i wouldn't go that far. The Bloody Sunday enquiry was as honest as the Warren Commission- and they were civil rights activists NOT IRA members that were murdered that day- DONT MAKE THAT MISTAKE. ;)

This hasn't been clarified on here yet so i'll do it; the 14 yr old girl was standing close to a British Army checkpoint, the IRA shooter missed the soldiers and the bullet hit the girl- it wasn't intentional, it was accidental (not condoning any of this but merely clarifing that the IRA didn't just pick up a girl off the street and murder her)
Given it happened in 1970, that was a period of essential civil war in the North- the IRA couldn't admit it shot her (even if the higher echelons did know all the details) because it would have damaged their cause.
Thats why now, people think that by wrapping up some unsolved mysteries, they might be winding down active service.

Again not supporting the IRA killing innocent people...or infact any people...but the greatest mass murder due to mismanagement took place under British rule...im talking about the 'great famine' of the late 1840's. Ireland's population was halved in 5 years through emmigration to the land of the free and the fact that 2 million people died...the only country in nineteenth century europe to see its population fall instead of rise. The Irish peasants had no food, yet Britain still managed to export more wheat and grain from Ireland than it imported to stop the famine.

No amount of killing done by the IRA will EVER equivicate to the wanton and lustful distruction by the British that has plagued Ireland for 800 years. The US does not see the IRA as freedom fighters and the only reason we haven't done more to quell the riteous and pertinent insurrection is because so many people here in the states with power are Irish. Currently there are two former IRA soldiers illegally imprisoned in America that were released having their charges rebuked by the Good Friday accord. Fuck anyone that feels pity for the Ulster Unionists. It's like feelings pity for the British colonial oppressors during our own revolution. And to make the analogy complete, we were founded by terrorists.
And where might you live?

And where might you live?

London

London

oh hang on...that wasnt to me hahah sorry