NationStates Jolt Archive


On Putting Out Forum Fires

Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 17:34
Hi kids, I'm back to give you some tips that might help with putting out forum fires. :)

1. Humour is often a good way to get people to relax and take a step back from a heated debate. You can interject a joke (it should be on-topic or related to a post in the thread) into the discussion to help lighten the atmosphere. Even if your joke isn't funny, the people throwing flames around may start laughing at how goofy you are instead of flaming each other, which is what we want. Just remember to make it clear that you're joking, as I mentioned in On the Prevention of Forum Fires. :)

2. Sometimes people will stop flaming if you just ask them to. You can remind them that flaming is likely to get them an official warning, something that they probably won't want because they don't want to be one step closer to deletion. Expressing genuine concerns for their safety on the forum is generally more effective than threating them with "I'll have to report you to the Mods for this if you don't stop," but sometimes that threat can work as well. You need to exercise caution when using these methods, and remember that being patronising or condescending in using them almost always causes the situation to backfire.

3. If there's a forum fire and you think it needs a fire truck rather than a simple bucket of water (those forum fires can get out of control quickly), report it to the Moderation forum and let the professionals (Mods) deal with it. They have better tools to do so. Remember that using the first two methods can save the Mods some work and lead to a much cooler forum, but don't be afraid to report flaming.

And as always...

http://img209.exs.cx/img209/2807/pd834lg5kv.jpg

Remember kids, only you can prevent forum fires.
Colodia
23-06-2005, 17:36
You can have my kids anyday.
FairyTInkArisen
23-06-2005, 17:36
yay! Smokey's back! :fluffle:
Czardas
23-06-2005, 17:42
I'm starting to wonder who exactly this guy (girl?) is, and why s/he already knows so much helpful stuff even though s/he's only been here a couple of months.
Cogitation
23-06-2005, 18:21
This is good advice, people. Listen to it.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation
Jordaxia
23-06-2005, 18:22
I'm SURE I know who it is, but I'm not saying. Nuh-uh.
Anyway. I second Tinks sentiments.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 18:26
I'm SURE I know who it is, but I'm not saying. Nuh-uh.You wouldn't!

"I know Max Barry's nation ID, I know the name of Czardas's former nation, I know where [violet] is...but I'm not telling you. :P"
Whispering Legs
23-06-2005, 18:31
This is good advice, people. Listen to it.

--The Modified Democratic States of Cogitation

Yes, it is. I would add, however, that some other posters will complain no matter how you phrase something (even if you're trying desperately not to offend).
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 18:31
You wouldn't!

"I know Max Barry's nation ID, I know the name of Czardas's former nation, I know where [violet] is...but I'm not telling you. :P"

Awww, please?

Can I at least guess?

Max Barry is SalusaSecondus.
Czardas' former nation was deleted.
[violet] is gone, only to be resurected as Fribeeteria.

Just a guess.
Frisbeeteria
23-06-2005, 18:37
Max Barry is SalusaSecondus.
Czardas' former nation was deleted.
[violet] is gone, only to be resurected as Fribeeteria.
Wrong on two out of three.

I can't be bothered to look up Czardas' former nation, so you might be three for three.

And it's Frisbeeteria.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 18:37
Awww, please?

Can I at least guess?

Max Barry is SalusaSecondus.
Czardas' former nation was deleted.
[violet] is gone, only to be resurected as Fribeeteria.

Just a guess.Wrong on the first count. Salusa = a college tech major named Gregory Rubin who played around so much with NS's code that Max made him an admin.

Wrong on the second count. I let my earlier nation die for a few reasons. (If I told you I'd be giving it away.)

Wrong on the third count. [violet] is not gone. I have been asked to hide [violet]'s ID from you regular players. [violet] is a small group of players assigned to that position by Max, led by a mysterious woman under investigation by us (hence the "she" used by the mods). At least one Generalite and one mod are part of [violet].
Pure Metal
23-06-2005, 18:40
aw man, now i have "if you go down to the woods today" stuck in my head! :mad: :rolleyes:
Frisbeeteria
23-06-2005, 18:41
I have been asked to hide [violet]'s ID from you regular players.
And cleverly, from yourself as well.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 18:42
Wrong on the first count. Salusa = a college tech major named Gregory Rubin who played around so much with NS's code that Max made him an admin.

Wrong on the second count. I let my earlier nation die for a few reasons. (If I told you I'd be giving it away.)

Wrong on the third count. [violet] is not gone. I have been asked to hide [violet]'s ID from you regular players.[violet] is a small group of players assigned to that position by Max, led by a mysterious woman under investigation by us (hence the "she" used by the mods). At least one Generalite and one mod are part of [violet].

Hey, I've only been here a month, it was all speculation. I'm still convinced that Max is actually a mod, however.

No fun if you don't tell.

That explains why there isn't a nation called [violet].

And it's Frisbeeteria.

Sorry, my typing isn't all that great.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 18:46
And cleverly, from yourself as well.What I tell mods like you: Yes...which I have proceeded to comply with.

What I tell regular players: Yes...but you can't beat me that easily. :)

Hey, I've only been here a month, it was all speculation. I'm still convinced that Max is actually a mod, however. Max doesn't have the time for modding, he's busy writing his book!

No fun if you don't tell.It's not that I don't want to, but it would reveal too much about me.

That explains why there isn't a nation called [violet].
*Hint* You can't use brackets in nation names */Hint*

I don't think anything but proof of [violet]'s other existence will ever convince me that my theory is wrong.
Pure Metal
23-06-2005, 18:49
*sings along* (www.hlj.me.uk/TBP.wma)

If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
At six o'clock their mummys and daddys
will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little teddy bears
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 18:50
*sings along* (www.hlj.me.uk/TBP.wma)

If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
At six o'clock their mummys and daddys
will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little teddy bears

That scared me when I was younger. Thank you for bringing back my repressed trauma, I'm going to burn my house down now...
Jibea
23-06-2005, 18:51
Hey, I've only been here a month, it was all speculation. I'm still convinced that Max is actually a mod, however.


Ill help you on the Max search by taking down a few nations from the list

Jibea
New Prussian Empire
Legionar
Klashonite
Adeena(sp?)

They are not max.

Thanks for the tips smokey, but isnt that phrase set up copyrighted, or protected or something? Also what happened to the bear?
Jibea
23-06-2005, 18:54
*sings along* (www.hlj.me.uk/TBP.wma)

If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
At six o'clock their mummys and daddys
will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little teddy bears

So thats where all the teddy bears came from. I wondered where they all came from in the game I made. Now all I have to do is find the Illithids, Beholders, and thoses pesky grenades.

Is Smokey a puppet nation or a reincarnation (not the dead back to life one) of an older player?
Czardas
23-06-2005, 18:56
*sings along* (www.hlj.me.uk/TBP.wma)

If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
If you go down to the woods today
You're sure of a big surprise
If you go down to the woods today
You better go in disguise
For every bear that ever there was
Will gather there for certain because
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic
At six o'clock their mummys and daddys
will take them home to bed
Because they're tired little teddy bearsI think posting random songs = spamming. Ask a mod for clarification, but I think so.

Ill help you on the Max search by taking down a few nations from the list

Jibea
New Prussian Empire
Legionar
Klashonite
Adeena(sp?)

They are not max.Right! I think we can also safely get rid of

Commando
Ffc2
Drunk commies
VoteEarly
Eutrusca
Sinuhue
FairyTInkArisen
Eireann Shamrock
Everyone else in the Hall of Ex-Nations (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Hall of Ex-Nations)

(note significant absences ;))
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 19:00
Maybe I am Max, have you ever thought of that? No picture or anything, so you are in a Schroedinger's cat situation until I clearly show my identity.

Er, don't pay attention to the address or anything, Mentor, Ohio is only to throw you off.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:00
Ill help you on the Max search by taking down a few nations from the list

Jibea
New Prussian Empire
Legionar
Klashonite
Adeena(sp?)

They are not max.

Thanks for the tips smokey, but isnt that phrase set up copyrighted, or protected or something? Also what happened to the bear?

Well here's a list of all the mods, minus the ones who are definately not max:

Senior Game Mods
Reploid Productions
Scolopendra
Sirocco
Melkor Unchained

Game Mods
Cogitation
The Most Glorious Hack
Karmabaijan
GMC Military Arms
Menelmacar

Senior Forum Mod
TJHairball

Forum Mods
Unfree People
Katganistan
Tsaraine
Frisbeeteria

Anyone else want to deny their maxiness?

I think it's a mod you never see, like GMC Military Arms.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:00
I think posting random songs = spamming. Ask a mod for clarification, but I think so.

Right! I think we can also safely get rid of

Commando
Ffc2
Drunk commies
VoteEarly
Eutrusca
Sinuhue
FairyTInkArisen
Eireann Shamrock
Everyone else in the Hall of Ex-Nations (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Hall of Ex-Nations)

Could Max even get banned
(note significant absences ;))

Could Max even be banned/deleted, because he is kindof the creator. If he cant then look at all the non deleted players, but if he can then we cant ignore the hall of Ex-Nations. Nor should we exclude them unless we know them personally. Hm. Maybe his name is Max Berry's Country Or Something.
Pure Metal
23-06-2005, 19:00
That scared me when I was younger. Thank you for bringing back my repressed trauma, I'm going to burn my house down now...
mwuhahaha! who needs forum fires when you can start real ones with nothing but words! :p


I think posting random songs = spamming. Ask a mod for clarification, but I think so.


random!?

http://img209.exs.cx/img209/2807/pd834lg5kv.jpg

i think not! :rolleyes:
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:04
I think I made a breakthrough. Czardas(sp?) is actually Max. The only proof I have is the fact that he failed to add himself to his own list.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:07
I think I made a breakthrough. Czardas(sp?) is actually Max. The only proof I have is the fact that he failed to add himself to his own list.

Sounds logical.

Also, it would explain the "master of the universe" thing.

Master of the NS universe, perhaps.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:09
Well here's a list of all the mods, minus the ones who are definately not max:

Senior Game Mods
Reploid Productions
Scolopendra
Sirocco
Melkor Unchained

Game Mods
Cogitation
The Most Glorious Hack
Karmabaijan
GMC Military Arms
Menelmacar

Senior Forum Mod
TJHairball

Forum Mods
Unfree People
Katganistan
Tsaraine
Frisbeeteria

Anyone else want to deny their maxiness?

I think it's a mod you never see, like GMC Military Arms.GMC Military Arms does a lot of RPing.

I think Max may be, ex. TJHairball, who I've only seen 1 post by.


I think I made a breakthrough. Czardas(sp?) is actually Max. The only proof I have is the fact that he failed to add himself to his own list.Circumstantial evidence, my friend, is not a good thing.

Would Max be likely to sign his posts "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" or spam all sorts of threads? I think not.

Of course, my earlier nation could have been Maxtopia, which Max says he let die because it became inundated with telegrams... Who knows? :D

I'll let you ponder that thought.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:11
Sounds logical.

Also, it would explain the "master of the universe" thing.

Master of the NS universe, perhaps.I do actually have a good deal of influence over the NS universe...although the mods are trying to convince themselves that I'm just another one of those megalomaniacs who wants to rule the world. ;)


They will never know the truth.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:11
GMC Military Arms does a lot of RPing.

I think Max may be, ex. TJHairball, who I've only seen 1 post by.

Circumstantial evidence, my friend, is not a good thing.

Would Max be likely to sign his posts "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" or spam all sorts of threads? I think not.

Of course, my earlier nation could have been Maxtopia, which Max says he let die because it became inundated with telegrams... Who knows? :D

I'll let you ponder that thought.

He might especially if he cant be banned. Plus that smiley at who knows, you do since you said you did and as my circumstancial evidance stands shows you to be him.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:12
GMC Military Arms does a lot of RPing.

I think Max may be, ex. TJHairball, who I've only seen 1 post by.

Circumstantial evidence, my friend, is not a good thing.

Would Max be likely to sign his posts "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" or spam all sorts of threads? I think not.

Of course, my earlier nation could have been Maxtopia, which Max says he let die because it became inundated with telegrams... Who knows? :D

I'll let you ponder that thought.

Notice the lack of denial of Maxiness.
Vetalia
23-06-2005, 19:13
Of course, my earlier nation could have been Maxtopia, which Max says he let die because it became inundated with telegrams... Who knows? :D

I'll let you ponder that thought.

You continue to torture us...
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:15
Notice the lack of denial of Maxiness.I didn't say I was...but I didn't say I wasn't.


Why am I keeping them all in suspense? I should tell them the truth........Naah, I'll let them keep guessing.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:15
Oh and the name Czardas, contains Czar which is the Russian version of Ceasar, a king/emperor. Max is kindof like the king of NS. Circumstancial evidence is mein friend :D
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:19
I didn't say I was...but I didn't say I wasn't.


Why am I keeping them all in suspense? I should tell them the truth........Naah, I'll let them keep guessing.

If any non-mod is Max, it's most likely you.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:20
Oh and the name Czardas, contains Czar which is the Russian version of Ceasar, a king/emperor. Max is kindof like the king of NS. Circumstancial evidence is mein friend :DLikewise, the same circumstantial evidence would show that I'm married to the Queen of NS (and we all know who that is) which will never happen. Your evidence begins to fall apart.

Of course, considering how mad I was at the "Queen of NS" thing... ;)
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:22
Likewise, the same circumstantial evidence would show that I'm married to the Queen of NS (and we all know who that is) which will never happen. Your evidence begins to fall apart.

Of course, considering how mad I was at the "Queen of NS" thing... ;)

All you've done is say that the evidence is circumstantial.

It hasn't fallen apart.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:22
Likewise, the same circumstantial evidence would show that I'm married to the Queen of NS (and we all know who that is) which will never happen. Your evidence begins to fall apart.

Of course, considering how mad I was at the "Queen of NS" thing... ;)

I dont know who/what the queen of NS is. I have more proof of you being Max, your smilies, you keep on putting it on your posts when we question you being Max.

Besides enough circumstancial evidence in one type of court is enough to prove you guilty (not for jailing purposes but more of claimish like things).
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:28
I dont know who/what the queen of NS is. I have more proof of you being Max, your smilies, you keep on putting it on your posts when we question you being Max.

Besides enough circumstancial evidence in one type of court is enough to prove you guilty (not for jailing purposes but more of claimish like things).Queen of NS = FairyTInkArisen. Of course, if you're a sensible person you wouldn't see very many of her posts, being the spammer she is.

All you've done is say that the evidence is circumstantial.

It hasn't fallen apart.It's gotten to the point now that if I said I wasn't Max you wouldn't believe me. :D
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:30
It's gotten to the point now that if I said I wasn't Max you wouldn't believe me. :D

Czardas, I don't want any pointless smilies, nor do I want the answers from a fortune cookie.

Are you Max Barry?
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:32
Queen of NS = FairyTInkArisen. Of course, if you're a sensible person you wouldn't see very many of her posts, being the spammer she is.

It's gotten to the point now that if I said I wasn't Max you wouldn't believe me. :D

I do now because I looked at your region. You seem pretty normal, but hey even I might be Max, but I am not. May you (sounds funny but proper grammar.) tg me the name of Max's country?(almost put a period instead).

With that aside, it is possible that [violet] was Max, or his/her new nation is the one Max is currently using, or is you, but I had enough of the inquisition.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:33
I do now because I looked at your region. You seem pretty normal, but hey even I might be Max, but I am not. May you (sounds funny but proper grammar.) tg me the name of Max's country?(almost put a period instead).

With that aside, it is possible that [violet] was Max, or his/her new nation is the one Max is currently using, or is you, but I had enough of the inquisition.

Australia, last time I checked.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:34
Australia, last time I checked.

Currently its the Cosmos. He does seem like a normal player.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:36
I do now because I looked at your region. You seem pretty normal, but hey even I might be Max, but I am not. May you (sounds funny but proper grammar.) tg me the name of Max's country?(almost put a period instead)."Could you." I'm a grammar fiend. "May you" sounds wrong. It's "Could you."

With that aside, it is possible that [violet] was Max, or his/her new nation is the one Max is currently using, or is you, but I had enough of the inquisition.Yes. I was kind of hoping you'd give up. It wouldn't be good if what is contained in this thread leaked to the outside world.

P.S. [violet] is a "she."
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:38
Currently its the Cosmos. He does seem like a normal player.In some ways I am.


P.S. Max does live in Australia. The Noble Men was making a joke.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:39
"Could you." I'm a grammar fiend. "May you" sounds wrong. It's "Could you."

Yes. I was kind of hoping you'd give up. It wouldn't be good if what is contained in this thread leaked to the outside world.

P.S. [violet] is a "she."

Could you implies the question whether you have the ability to do something. May you implies the question that you should do the thing, a permission. I knew that reading the back pages of that dictionary would come in handy.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:42
Could you implies the question whether you have the ability to do something. May you implies the question that you should do the thing, a permission. I knew that reading the back pages of that dictionary would come in handy.Well, I always say "could you". I suppose "May you" is technically correct, but they're pretty much interchangeable.

What the hell. I hate formality.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:43
Could you implies the question whether you have the ability to do something.

That's "can you?"

May you implies the question that you should do the thing, a permission.

That's "may I?" As in "May I go to the bathroom?"

I knew that reading the back pages of that dictionary would come in handy.

There is no response to that.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:45
That's "can you?"



That's "may I?" As in "May I go to the bathroom?"



There is no response to that.

Ach it seems you have bested me.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 19:50
So thats where all the teddy bears came from. I wondered where they all came from in the game I made. Now all I have to do is find the Illithids, Beholders, and thoses pesky grenades.

Is Smokey a puppet nation or a reincarnation (not the dead back to life one) of an older player?

That, good fellow, is something for me to know and for you to speculate endlessly about. :D
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:51
That, good fellow, is something for me to know and for you to speculate endlessly about. :D

We already have the identity of Max Barry (aka Czardas) to speculate about.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:51
That, good fellow, is something for me to know and for you to speculate endlessly about. :D

Not another one. Achhhhhh. I think you are a reincarnation due to the fact that it was said "smokey is back" or somthing along those lines. Too tired for questioning.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:52
That, good fellow, is something for me to know and for you to speculate endlessly about. :DSmokey has the same links in his siggy as Frisbee there....I think he's a mod puppet.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 19:53
Smokey has the same links in his siggy as Frisbee there....I think he's a mod puppet.

That's some good thinking there, Max.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 19:54
Not another one. Achhhhhh. I think you are a reincarnation due to the fact that it was said "smokey is back" or somthing along those lines. Too tired for questioning.

I said "smokey is back" because I haven't been very active for some time. Nothing suspicious there. ;)
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 19:55
Smokey has the same links in his siggy as Frisbee there....I think he's a mod puppet.

And the aforementioned speculation takes off nicely... :)
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:55
Smokey has the same links in his siggy as Frisbee there....I think he's a mod puppet.

That would explain the posting about Forum fires.

Too much speculation. Trying is too hard. I might have to think about this later, oh well.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:55
We already have the identity of Max Barry (aka Czardas) to speculate about.I've mentioned that I have other puppet nations, some of which may be still going.

Some of which may be mods, or major NS posters.

More speculation, anyone? :D

P.S. Don't call me Max! If anything be politer!
Jibea
23-06-2005, 19:58
I've mentioned that I have other puppet nations, some of which may be still going.

Some of which may be mods, or major NS posters.

More speculation, anyone? :D

P.S. Don't call me Max! If anything be politer!

You could probably be an AI branched off of Jibea in the future and went back in time due to a greater mass density in the future distorting time even more *ranting until...* and thus came back in time to make sure that the same thing happens so you effectively exist.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 19:58
I said "smokey is back" because I haven't been very active for some time. Nothing suspicious there. ;)Wasn't it Tink who first said "Smokey is back"?


...But that would be too much of a coincidence... :confused:
Pure Metal
23-06-2005, 19:59
pfft :rolleyes: none of you lot have a clue do you? :p

i'm Max! ;)



or at least i could be........
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:00
P.S. Don't call me Max! If anything be politer!

How about Mr. Max, that is if you are Max. I just noticed that the last quip got to me. You may very well be the legless pirate guy person thing, or even Drunken Commies. You might be fairytink in disquise too, or maybe noble men is another one of your puppets to through everyone off gaurd. Too much thinking, I am doing (Yoda styled; I hate that movie).
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:02
Wasn't it Tink who first said "Smokey is back"?


...But that would be too much of a coincidence... :confused:

A very interesting supposition, but I was referring to this...

Hi kids, I'm back to give you some tips that might help with putting out forum fires. :)

By the way, I'm definitely not Tink's puppet. She's a very nice young lady, and I am not. Well, maybe nice, and maybe young, but not a lady by any stretch of the imagination.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:05
You could probably be an AI branched off of Jibea in the future and went back in time due to a greater mass density in the future distorting time even more *ranting until...* and thus came back in time to make sure that the same thing happens so you effectively exist.You're right! :D


No, just kidding.

How about Mr. Max, that is if you are Max. I just noticed that the last quip got to me. You may very well be the legless pirate guy person thing, or even Drunken Commies. You might be fairytink in disquise too, or maybe noble men is another one of your puppets to through everyone off gaurd. Too much thinking, I am doing (Yoda styled; I hate that movie).1) If I was Legless Pirates, do you think I'd post with this ID when I could have one with a higher postcount?

2) If I was Drunk Commies I'd have been DEATed or banned long time ago. And anyway we're online at the same time.

3) ROFLMAO. That is the funniest theory I've seen all day.

4) The Noble Men one of my puppets? We seem to be online at the same time. Doesn't work.

5) I don't like it that much either. Star Wars is as a whole kind of annoying.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:05
yay! Smokey's back! :fluffle:

Is Colodia a boy, because if he is then that would make Smokey a girl (from what I interpreted from his/her post) which could mean smokey is in fact none other then FairyTInkArisen, if Smokey is a boy then I have no clue who he is.
Khudros
23-06-2005, 20:06
I'm still waiting for the handbook on how to handle trolls. Do we call animal control? Or maybe back off slowly to show them we aren't a threat? What do you do when someone has been attacked by a troll?
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:06
You might be fairytink in disquise too, or maybe noble men is another one of your puppets to through everyone off gaurd. Too much thinking, I am doing (Yoda styled; I hate that movie).

Oh, I am not Czardas.

P.S. Don't call me Max! If anything be politer!

Okay then, Maximillian Barry, Great Leader, most Noble *blah blah blah* of NationStates, also known as Czardas.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:07
A very interesting supposition, but I was referring to this...Ah.

And what made you choose to post that today of all days?..... ;)

Is Colodia a boy, because if he is then that would make Smokey a girl (from what I interpreted from his/her post) which could mean smokey is in fact none other then FairyTInkArisen, if Smokey is a boy then I have no clue who he is.Colodia is a boy.

Smokey can spell and use proper punctuation and grammar, which is more than I can say for Tinkies.

Smokey is just someone who likes confusing people.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:08
You're right! :D


No, just kidding.

1) If I was Legless Pirates, do you think I'd post with this ID when I could have one with a higher postcount?

2) If I was Drunk Commies I'd have been DEATed or banned long time ago. And anyway we're online at the same time.

3) ROFLMAO. That is the funniest theory I've seen all day.

4) The Noble Men one of my puppets? We seem to be online at the same time. Doesn't work.

5) I don't like it that much either. Star Wars is as a whole kind of annoying.

For four, I can post with the same ID on two different forms at once (I recently found out how), so a person could do the same with two.

I found the error of number 3, being your name contains Czar not Czarina.

Two is the same as four, but I was just guessing random famous posters.

For one, the answer is because.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:09
Smokey is just someone who likes confusing people.

Like a certain master of the universe we all know and shout at... Max
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:09
Oh, I am not Czardas.I would certainly hope not. :)
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:09
Is Colodia a boy, because if he is then that would make Smokey a girl (from what I interpreted from his/her post) which could mean smokey is in fact none other then FairyTInkArisen, if Smokey is a boy then I have no clue who he is.

This is some great speculation. I like it. :)
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:10
Two is the same as four, but I was just guessing random famous posters.

Me, a famous poster?!?

Can anyone else confirm or deny this remark?
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:11
Oh, I am not Czardas.



Okay then, Maximillian Barry, Great Leader, most Noble *blah blah blah* of NationStates, also known as Czardas.

Thats something He/she would say (I am pretty sure it is he but I am non offensive.) (jokingly said.)

Troll person, first you shine a flashlight on them turning them into stones, take a sledge hammer and boom.

Now back to noble, Czardas is probably not Max.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:12
Ah.

And what made you choose to post that today of all days?..... ;)

Why of course it was because I saw you posting and said to myself, "That old rascal Czardas will have some fun with this."

That and I finally had a spare moment to devote to it. ;)

Smokey is just someone who likes confusing people.

Among other things, like preventing forum fires. :D
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:12
Me, a famous poster?!?

Can anyone else confirm or deny this remark?

For almost every thread I go on lately (its been a while since) I have seen you either starting it or posting in it. That confirms it.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:12
For four, I can post with the same ID on two different forms at once (I recently found out how), so a person could do the same with two.Well yes...I suppose so...

I found the error of number 3, being your name contains Czar not Czarina.But we don't particularly know whether Tink is really a girl, or whether I am really a boy. No NSers have ever met either of us.

(That's not true, one NSer alone knows the truth...but he's never online. :p)
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:13
Now back to noble, Czardas is probably not Max.

My whole life's a lie...
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:14
Thats something He/she would say (I am pretty sure it is he but I am non offensive.) (jokingly said.)I am a he.


Or am I?...
Now back to noble, Czardas is probably not Max.Well, when you look at it realistically, it does seem rather unlikely...
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:15
For almost every thread I go on lately (its been a while since) I have seen you either starting it or posting in it. That confirms it.

I'm so happy I could dance!

*Dances*
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:16
Why of course it was because I saw you posting and said to myself, "That old rascal Czardas will have some fun with this."

That and I finally had a spare moment to devote to it. ;) Mystery #1: Identity of Smokey the NSer cleared up.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:16
Well yes...I suppose so...

But we don't particularly know whether Tink is really a girl, or whether I am really a boy. No NSers have ever met either of us.

(That's not true, one NSer alone knows the truth...but he's never online. :p)

I can talk mysteriously too. Lets see, hmmm. I am pretty sure Whispering Legs is a boy, Tink is a girl, Legless is a boy, Noble is a boy (if not then the name is misleading), Jibea is a boy, New Prussian Empire is Jibea, Legionar is New Prussian Empire, Drunk Commies is also Drunk Commies Reborn and Jesussaves (but The first and last were deleted (I think the first was) but I am not sure about the last), Klashonite is a boy, Adeena is a boy. Yeah um. hmm.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:17
Mystery #1: Identity of Smokey the NSer cleared up.

Who is it, Fris like you originally thought?
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:18
I'm still waiting for the handbook on how to handle trolls. Do we call animal control? Or maybe back off slowly to show them we aren't a threat? What do you do when someone has been attacked by a troll?

Well, my young friend, that's not really my speciality. The only thing that concerns me about trolls is that they tend to start forum fires. My doing some sort of "animal control" would be ironic to say the least. The only suggestion I have for dealing with trolls is to avoid them so they can't start a forum fire.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:19
Mystery #1: Identity of Smokey the NSer cleared up.

Who am I? I desperately want to know. :)
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:21
My whole life's a lie...

No, just probably the part where you and I try to find out who Max is by an inqusition. Then again, I dont know who you are or your past.

Wait cross the last post(?) I made. I think Noble is not a boy, but possibly several, or maybe 1ME

Note, ME i just made up, it is the smallest postive number and comes complete with its own decimal point

Paragraph 2 was said jokingly.

Paragraph 3 i should probably create that number.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:21
Noble is a boy (if not then the name is misleading)

Oh, I am male alright.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:22
...Go on...

For the mods:

Frisbeeteria is a boy, Katganistan is a girl, Cogitation is a boy, Scolopendra is a boy, Melkor Unchained is a boy, Reploid Productions is a girl, Tsaraine is a boy, The Most Glorious Hack is a boy, Sirocco is a boy, and the rest I'm not sure about.

Let's take a few other posters:

Sdaeriji is a boy, Neo-Anarchists is a girl, Kervoskia is a boy, Alien Born is a boy, Jocabia is a boy, Sinuhue is a girl, Colodia is a boy, Santa Barbara is a boy, Zotona is a girl...it goes on.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:24
Who is it, Fris like you originally thought?Smokey the NSer = Smokey the NSer

Really people! :D
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:25
Colodia is a boy.

That probably means Smokey is a girl and following my theory makes her (if I am right) FairyTInk. I apologize if I am wrong. If Smokey is a boy then, we could just question all the boys save Czardas, Jibea, Noble and all the puppets+Klahonite. That should give us an idea.

Or alternatly:

Smokey, may you tell us who you really are?

If it works then I am good.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:26
No, just probably the part where you and I try to find out who Max is by an inqusition. Then again, I dont know who you are or your past.If you really want to know who Max Barry is you can go to a thread in Technical called "[violet] = Max Barry?". The answer is contained somewhere in there. :D


For almost every thread I go on lately (its been a while since) I have seen you either starting it or posting in it. That confirms it.I have a strange feeling that within a few months The Noble Men will be one of NS's top posters.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:27
If you really want to know who Max Barry is you can go to a thread in Technical called "[violet] = Max Barry?". The answer is contained somewhere in there. :D


I have a strange feeling that within a few months The Noble Men will be one of NS's top posters.

Me to, people here only for a few months have more posts then me. DCs Reborn incarnation was a few months younger and had around 2x my posts :eek:.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:29
Smokey the NSer = Smokey the NSer

Really people! :D

Damn reflexsive postulate >:(. Nice trick though.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:30
That probably means Smokey is a girl and following my theory makes her (if I am right) FairyTInk. I apologize if I am wrong. If Smokey is a boy then, we could just question all the boys save Czardas, Jibea, Noble and all the puppets+Klahonite. That should give us an idea.

Or alternatly:

Smokey, may you tell us who you really are?

If it works then I am good.

No. Telling you my secret identity is out of the question. Though you will be happy to know that I am male, as I mentioned in an earlier post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9121829&postcount=62
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:30
That probably means Smokey is a girl and following my theory makes her (if I am right) FairyTInk. I apologize if I am wrong. If Smokey is a boy then, we could just question all the boys save Czardas, Jibea, Noble and all the puppets+Klahonite. That should give us an idea.

Or alternatly:

Smokey, may you tell us who you really are?

If it works then I am good.See my and Smokey's comments earlier.

Me to, people here only for a few months have more posts then me. DCs Reborn incarnation was a few months younger and had around 2x my posts . Same here. DC Reborn joined in March '05 and had 2000 posts when I had 400 back in May.
Barlibgil
23-06-2005, 20:30
Wow, this thread has it all. grammer debates, mystery, questioning of gender....all you guys need is some magic...


It is concieveable that any single person could be Max, as long as they don't make themselves a complete nuisance to the mods like...uh...self-proclaimed members of the Useless Thread Nobility...
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:32
Wow, this thread has it all. grammer debates, mystery, questioning of gender....all you guys need is some magic...

*Uses microwave*

Microwaves are magic...
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:33
By the way, I'm definitely not Tink's puppet. She's a very nice young lady, and I am not. Well, maybe nice, and maybe young, but not a lady by any stretch of the imagination.That's good. I can't imagine you being remotely similar to Tink in any way.

(Except for the nice part, and the young one. But that goes for a lot of us...me for example. :D)
Czardas
23-06-2005, 20:35
Wow, this thread has it all. grammer debates, mystery, questioning of gender....all you guys need is some magic...


It is concieveable that any single person could be Max, as long as they don't make themselves a complete nuisance to the mods like...uh...self-proclaimed members of the Useless Thread Nobility...Actually, that could be a cover for someone who really is Max. So you're not exempt. Sorry. :D
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:39
Actually, that could be a cover for someone who really is Max. So you're not exempt. Sorry. :D

It was stated in one of the first five pages (too much pages), that maxtopia was THE FIRST NATION, followed by violet as the second. Maxtopia was your puppet, therefore you could personally know Max, figuring you knew about it, and Max would probably be doing technical stuff. Still looking for the truth. There should be a song for these types of things.
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:41
If some one just went to the last page directly after reading the first then what would their impression be?
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:42
If some one just went to the last page directly after reading the first then what would their impression be?

That we're all quite insane. :)
Colodia
23-06-2005, 20:46
If some one just went to the last page directly after reading the first then what would their impression be?
I can tell you that.

Your all weirdos. Every last one of you.

*digs a ditch and throws you all in and covers you up with cement from a cement truck*

It's still not enough....

*builds a basketball court on the cement*

Better!
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:50
I can tell you that.

Your all weirdos. Every last one of you.

*digs a ditch and throws you all in and covers you up with cement from a cement truck*

It's still not enough....

*builds a basketball court on the cement*

Better!

Mere cement can not stop me.

I think I figured this out on the last page of the thread posted by Czardas. It turns out that either

1) He is Max like I originally thought or
2) Max is using a group name to keep his identity hidden
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 20:52
I think I figured this out on the last page of the thread posted by Czardas. It turns out that either

1) He is Max like I originally thought or
2) Max is using a group name to keep his identity hidden

Explain the second one, please.
Smokey the NSer
23-06-2005, 20:53
Ladies, gentlemen, and other assorted beings, I must regretfully depart, but will hopefully see you again shortly.
Jordaxia
23-06-2005, 20:54
Ladies, gentlemen, and other assorted beings, I must regretfully depart, but will hopefully see you again shortly.

good bye, whoever you are.

(Now that he's gone I can tell you who he is. That's superman.)
Jibea
23-06-2005, 20:54
Explain the second one, please.

Max and a group of people (possibly mods/admins) are using one name. Since there are different people, and different personalities, they can easily truthfully claim that they are not max. A girl in the group (if there is one) could even post pictures of herself to through the people off guard. The exact thing is

Originally Posted by Ballotonia
So, if that 'we' is the Royal use of 'we', Max == [violet]. If not, Myrth seemes to be suggesting that [violet] is a group and Max would then be part of that group.

Ballotonia
*gasps*

*Czardas's Secret Police drag Ballotonia away to the execution chambers*

Phew. At least, no one else will recognize the truth...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the Universe
Jibea
23-06-2005, 21:00
A mod who knows max in the same thread (in pages in the 80s) said he wont tell but one of the theories are right, either euroslavia or Czardas.
The Noble Men
23-06-2005, 21:01
A mod who knows max in the same thread (in pages in the 80s) said he wont tell but one of the theories are right, either euroslavia or Czardas.

Woot!

I didn't bother to read that, thanks!
Jibea
23-06-2005, 21:03
Wow. Czardas makes a good point.

I am pretty sure he is not Max (like I said earlier after the inquistition.), but he did get on the road that not even the admins/mods know max's nation. For all we know everyone who says they are max could very well in fact be him.
Czardas
23-06-2005, 23:27
Wow. Czardas makes a good point.

I am pretty sure he is not Max (like I said earlier after the inquistition.), but he did get on the road that not even the admins/mods know max's nation. For all we know everyone who says they are max could very well in fact be him.And everyone who says they are not Max could very well be him, too.

You for example...or Smokey here...or me...or anyone really!

Max and a group of people (possibly mods/admins) are using one name. Since there are different people, and different personalities, they can easily truthfully claim that they are not max. A girl in the group (if there is one) could even post pictures of herself to through the people off guard. The exact thing is


So, if that 'we' is the Royal use of 'we', Max == [violet]. If not, Myrth seemes to be suggesting that [violet] is a group and Max would then be part of that group.

Ballotonia
*gasps*

*Czardas's Secret Police drag Ballotonia away to the execution chambers*

Phew. At least, no one else will recognize the truth...

~Czardas, Supreme Ruler of the UniverseI think you may be right. I'll always stick by the theory that [violet] = a group. Max *may be* part of that group, or he may have taken time off to finish off Company and left it to a bunch of technical people to work on the problems. And who knows, maybe one of those technical people who is part of [violet] got bored and decided to come to NS General. Things like that do happen. ;)
The Noble Men
24-06-2005, 00:04
I think you may be right. I'll always stick by the theory that [violet] = a group. Max *may be* part of that group, or he may have taken time off to finish off Company and left it to a bunch of technical people to work on the problems. And who knows, maybe one of those technical people who is part of [violet] got bored and decided to come to NS General. Things like that do happen. ;)

I knew it!

You've gotta be part of [violet], it all makes sense now.
Czardas
24-06-2005, 00:08
I knew it!

You've gotta be part of [violet], it all makes sense now.It does?

How?
The Noble Men
24-06-2005, 00:11
It does?

How?

Because if it didn't, why did I find The Holy Grail under the staircase?
Czardas
24-06-2005, 00:14
Because if it didn't, why did I find The Holy Grail under the staircase?Uh... Smokey put it there to confuse you? :confused:
Zatarack
24-06-2005, 00:14
Something to add:
Trolls are a leading cause of forum fires
The Noble Men
24-06-2005, 00:18
Uh... Smokey put it there to confuse you? :confused:

Damn that bear!
The Chocolate Goddess
24-06-2005, 00:22
*takes notes... mutters something about last night...*

*leaves a thank you note for Smokey*
The Noble Men
24-06-2005, 00:27
*takes notes... mutters something about last night...*

*leaves a thank you note for Smokey*

*Curious*
The Chocolate Goddess
24-06-2005, 01:42
*Curious*

*sweet smile*
nevermind... curiosity killed the cat...
Smokey the NSer
24-06-2005, 17:49
Something to add:
Trolls are a leading cause of forum fires

An excellent point, and something I've been considering more intensely since another poster mentioned trolling. Perhaps an announcement regarding trolling would be in order in addition to my works on preventing forum fires and putiing them out. Or maybe the trolling bit could be added to the one on prevention, as it fits best there. :)
Smokey the NSer
24-06-2005, 17:50
*takes notes... mutters something about last night...*

*leaves a thank you note for Smokey*

*reads thank you note*

*appreciates* :)